Eric Alterman's book What Liberal Media? really set off a competition on the loony left to see who could more energetically deny obvious reality. Check this out:
I'll just add, for the hundredth time, that Keith Olbermann's expressed "liberalism" is almost entirely limited to a dislike and distrust of the Bush administration, a view shared by 70% of the public, and a concern for civil liberties and executive power abuse. On top of that he has a somewhat liberal "sensibility," but his show covers little of the broader "liberal agenda." But he makes Tom Brokaw uncomfortable so, you know.
Who said it? That would be blogger Duncan Black at Eschaton. What an Es-cartoon.
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Jack Cafferty a 'Populist'
September 9, 2008 - 05:26 ET by dodecahedronDid anyone else catch the 'Independent Convention' Lou Dobbs is hosting? There was a segment today where Lou stated that everyone at CNN except for himself was biased. Lou claims he is an independent.
The really shocking comment, however, came from Ken Auletta of the New Yorker Magazine who said that Jack Cafferty is a 'populist.' When Lou corrected him and said that Jack is a liberal, Ken again said that Jack is a populist.
It seems like Ken Auletta's libdar (liberal radar) may need calibration.
dodecahedron
September 9, 2008 - 12:13 ET by Rush FanI was also watching Dobbs' show when Ken Auletta said that he considered Cafferty a populist. I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair.
Kudos to Lou Dobbs for stating that he couldn't think of anyone else at CNN that was a "populist". But he forgot the Centrist and Populist Campbell Brown. Near the end of his show Lou Dobbs asked Campbell Brown, whose show was on next, what was coming up on her show. Campbell said she would discuss Sarah Palin's faith and the churches Palin attended. Campbell then used this slogan to describe her show: NO BIAS, NO BULL. Unbelievable!
Here is the link to the CNN transcript of Lou Dobbs' show and here is the part where Lou Dobbs, Howard Kurtz and Ken Auletta are discussing NBC/MSNBC and CNN:
DOBBS: Well, let's examine your view. One, let's start with the announcement today that MSNBC that Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews will no longer be covering politics on that network. And the reason is, ostensibly, at least, I'm going to turn to both of you, because they brought a significant bias to their coverage.
AULETTA: Lou,I would make an argument that all three networks tried to create an identity because they tried to reach a niche. And I think the niche that MSNBC has tried to reach say liberal niche and they went too far.
I think Fox is conservative. I think the niche that CNN is trying to reach is a populous niche, exemplified by you.
KURTZ: I'd say the role of Olbermann and Matthews, I've been reporting on this all year and I've been criticizing it all year, they can say whatever they
want on their shows. They're commentators. They are opinion guys. They put them in the role of neutral anchors on primary nights and during these conventions was a mistake that MSNBC has belated. And they realize because NBS News people feel that their brand is being tarnished.
DOBBS: MSNBC and NBC as well, don't you think, Howard?
KURTZ: Well, I wouldn't put NBC in the same category but of course it's increasingly hard to make a distinction to say that Brian Williams and Tom Brokaw and David Gregory are all over MSNBC during this political
season.
DOBBS: Right and so they had a brain confusion issue. As to your assertion here, the populous, I can't think of another populous on CNN here.
AULETTA: Jack Cafferty.
DOBBS: Jack Cafferty, he's a liberal, he's all for Obama, right?
AULETTA: Jack is a populous, I would argue.
DOBBS: What would you call Obama?
AULETTA: I would call him a liberal.
DOBBS: Okay. At least we can make a distinction.
AULETTA: That's the only thing we agree on.
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The liberal media continues to sacrifice ethics and morals for the greater cause: This time for the Election of a Democrat to the Presidency of the United States.
no difference
September 9, 2008 - 05:44 ET by Mica the MagnificentClaiming Olbermann is not really liberal, just anti-Bush is like saying you're not gay, just attracted to men.
Kind of OT
September 9, 2008 - 05:53 ET by Indiana JoeBut maybe not, dealing with "media bias" and all.
Just got the new National Review yesterday. The cover is a picture of Obama with his "pet peacock!" BAM!
I think I'll take NR's opinion over some blogger from Eschaton.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Es-cartoon??????
September 9, 2008 - 06:57 ET by motherbeltGrooooooooan!
But I love it!!
In the days before the internet...
September 9, 2008 - 07:21 ET by JWFdislike and distrust of the Bush administration, a view shared by 70% of the public, and a concern for civil liberties and executive power abuse.
In the days before the internet, we would laugh and make fun of people who said stuff like this. Because this is the talk of conspiracy nuts.
People who said stuff like this usually had other problems we would viciously mock, like lack of cleanliness and social interactions, D&D fascination, & general creepiness.
Now they can put up a website and seem normal for awhile until they get to the topic of Bush.
Maybe the internet is a good thing, because I have had the chance to weed so much trash from my life. Eschaton never even made the radar to look at. How did NB find it?
JWF, What's with the anti
September 9, 2008 - 08:43 ET by hydrodynDMJWF,
What's with the anti D&D comments of late?
First a McCain spokesman takes a swipe at gamers, and now this?
It's enough to make me want to retreat to my parent's basement with a +3 juice box and roll some 20 sided dice until I feel better about myself.
Sorry.
September 9, 2008 - 09:20 ET by JWFPre personal computer, pre-internet D&Ders.
Graphics today, lots of people are gamers. No swipe on them.
pre-internet D&Ders - Hey I
September 9, 2008 - 12:23 ET by Dan The Man 2pre-internet D&Ders - Hey I played lots of DnD from 1977 on. I really miss the games they are much better in ways from teh graphic games we have now. They required imagination, intellegence and a certain amount of acting ability. Especially from the Dungeon Master who had to blend reality and game into one.
It takes a really good story line and players to make a game work. I also really like miniatures and strategy board games. If you really want a game to test your guile, wit and strategy try Diplomacy.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan, Same here, from
September 9, 2008 - 18:34 ET by hydrodynDMDan,
Same here, from about 1978 on until the end of high school. The computer games (Baldur's Gate, etc...) are fine, but they aren't the real table top game.
Once a year, usually around Christmas, my old friends and I still get together to play, just to relive our childhood years (well, but now with beer).
Just to support what you're saying about the time and effort that goes into these games, I've been working on this year's module off and on for the last couple of months just to get the story line straight and to make it (I hope) interesting and challenging for the players.
It's easy for those who never got into the game to stereotype those who did - and I'll admit I'm a bit of a geek - but to suggest that we all somehow lack social skills or are strange is taking it a bit far.
BG series
September 9, 2008 - 18:56 ET by well99Still rocked for computer games.Not the same as P&P but as close as your going to get on comp.Kotor1,2 were good but to short.I still have bg series on comp..Bought it when it first came out.Well a month or two after it hit the stores.As far as being strange well I was in the Army at Ft.Hood when I started P&P.Then again maybe I hit my head on a tc hatch on a tank too often.Cheap alternative to other activities.
well99, Yea, don't get me
September 9, 2008 - 20:30 ET by hydrodynDMwell99,
Yea, don't get me wrong. I spend endless hours on the BG series (as well as the games that came before, like Pool of Radiance). I thought the series went somewhat downhill after the first - the games became too linear and the stories just didn't seem as interesting - but maybe that's just me.
I get the impression that there's a healthy rpg community in the military from what my buddy who was in the Army says. In fact, there are two Navy OC's in the group that I sit in on once in a while (they play 3.5 and I'm strictly a 1st Edition guy so I'm mostly there to watch and eat chips).
hydro
September 10, 2008 - 04:23 ET by well99I was 1st ed also.As far as PNP that is all I played.Anymore I am just into pc games.To hard to find a good group.
You aint kidding
September 9, 2008 - 09:29 ET by well99Makes me want to get my +12 hackmaster special.It is uber leet.If I could only get past the empty boxes of Dominos.Back OT
Saying KOed is not a liberal is like saying Chris Matthews is a Conservative.I really enjoy the left trying to paint them and their heroes as anything but liberals.
I am humbled and humiliated.
September 9, 2008 - 23:35 ET by JWFI must have met the weird ones.
I humbly apologize to fellow apparently sane NBer's that like D&D.
"She's just a little
September 9, 2008 - 07:34 ET by harqman"She's just a little pregnant."
My jaw dropped
September 9, 2008 - 08:12 ET by inquiringmindFor some reason I sat up last night and watched part of Olberman's show. My jaw dropped as he and Rachel discussed the church Palin attends. More to the point they made fun of the fact that Sarah prays for guidance and that some in her church may speak in tongues.
I don't know that many church congregations that speak in tongues but I do know most if not all believing people seek guidance from God.
The toungues thing dosen't bother me as much as the smug attitude they took to her church.
Heck, I know of a church where they eat a waifer and call it " The Body of Christ" and then they sip red wine and call it " The Blood of Christ". What kind of lunacy is this? I don't see Olberman making fun of the Catholic Church!!
He already got Matthews and himself fired once, I wonder if he is trying to get fired again.
I feel an even BIGGER backlash coming against the MSM.
Don
P.S. I wasn't making fun of the Catholic Church just using it as an example of what someone on the outside looking in might find to pick on.
Well, they made fun of Bush
September 9, 2008 - 09:37 ET by motherbeltWell, they made fun of Bush praying for guidance too. Only liberals can pray without being "religious extremists."
Example: it's OK for Obama to ask the congregation to pray that he is elected so he can establish a kingdom right here on earth.
PS: As a Catholic, it was clear you were using sarcasm...no offense taken.
BATH-TUB-BOY...
September 9, 2008 - 08:33 ET by danybhoyOlbermann is anti-Bush, but he is a partisan hack as well. The name "BathTubBoy" comes from the fact he did not want to cover Clinton & Monica's spuzzy blue dress. His boss would call John Gibson(back during Olby's 1st stint at BSNBC,Gibby worked there as well)because Olby's would not get out of the tub because of his anxiety about covering a story that was beneath him. Hence the moniker "BathTubBoy".
The idea that he is just anti-Bush is BS.
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Bathtub Boy
September 9, 2008 - 08:53 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsHere's John Gibson explaining Olbermann's transformation into Bathtub Boy. Funny stuff.
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Let's not forget...
September 9, 2008 - 22:17 ET by Dustin JolleyLet's not forget that this moron Alterman also works for Media Matters for America. No big surprise, is it? Lol.