People like Bob Geiger are simply unworthy of comment.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

I agree with Geiger's premise but not his logic. The truth is that Bush is responsible to those deaths, just as any President is responsible for the deaths of the troops they put into harm's way. This reality is probably the worst burden any President faces, and one that needs to be strongly considered when selecting a President. A military isn't around just to give people jobs to do or look pretty during parades or inspections. They are around so they can go blow things up, kill people, and get killed themselves from time to time. Any president has to accept the awesome responsibility that they may be called upon to "murder" one, a dozen, hundreds, or even thousands of their fellow Americans in the name of looking out for America's interests. If they are not up to that task, they have no business being President.

I remember watching an episode of the second Star Trek show, and one of the female officers wanted to be in command of the ship but had to pass a test. She kept failing a simulation of some reactor failure where there was no way to get someone inside the thing to fix it without killing them. Despite her best attempts at researching the data she couldn't find the right fix to save the ship. In the end, she finally realized that the only way to save the ship was to send one of her best friends to a certain death, and once she made that mental leap she was found fit for command. I thought that was a very telling program about the price of being in charge.

Did Bush "murder" those guys, in that he is directly responsible for their deaths? Yes, he did. But that's what being a President is about and why you never want some weak-knee tough-feely person in the Oval Office.

Given the number of phony soldiers that have been paraded before our eyes, I have to wonder. I did a quick Google search trying to find out from where Geiger claims his veteran status. A quick search turned up nothing although there was a blog at agonist.com for him with the short bio listing who he was but veteran wasn't among his accomplishments or qualifications.

Now, that doesn't mean I don't believe he isn't, it just means I question it. How many times in the last year have phony soldiers come forward and made claims and hate rants for leftist propaganda purposes? It's a fashionable thing to do it seems. So, if somebody knows for a fact that he is a veteran, I'd appreciate the telling.

Other than that, I'm offended. I'm offended by the left's revelling in the holiday when they spend 364 other days of the year bashing the military. This Webb crap bill is just the democratic way of buying votes. Where was any good feeling toward the military last year or the year before or the year before that.

How about the lies Clinton told about Iraq. If Bush lied where was Clinton's justification for bombing Iraq? Or how about Bosnia? That's okay, I guess... as long as it isn't Bush.Oh, and as far as 9/11 are we supposed to forget it was 5 years in the planning just because it happened after Clinton left office?

I was a military spouse, then the mother of a soldier in Iraq. I was part of the experience of Clinton's gutting of the military. I was part of the Gulf War from an overseas perspective of having to inspect my car for bombs every morning before driving to work. I spent yesterday angry and bitter over the posturing of those who have done nothing but demoralize our heroes.

Or how about this? There are more people killed in  Detroit in less than a year than there have been in the entire Iraq War. We should pull out of Detroit... the war is lost... the criminals have won... (considering everything is morally relevant, why not this?).

On top of that, we have this hypocritical Congress saying Iraq isn't doing enough and I'd like to know what yardstick they're using to make that judgment because if they're comparing Iraq to themselves, Iraq has done four times as much toward governance in one year as Congress has done in almost two. We have 3 Senators campaigning for President. I bet all three of them are still drawing paychecks for governance they're not doing while asking for a promotion. And let's not forget the rest of the Congressional boobs. Instead of doing the work they're paid to do, they're busy holding inquiries to find someone else to blame for it.

Sorry for the long rant but I'm about sick of this government in its entirety... and the media. Maybe it's time to wipe the slate clean and start completely over with every office in the nation. Think they might get the hint, then? The media is committing suicide so it will eventually take itself out of the picture.

It's obvious that Geiger's hatred is simply a train of thought that's run off the tracks. It's also clear that this guy doesn't spend enough time around people who disagree with him. When you have regular conversations with people of different political views, you restrain yourself from painting opponents as mindless, evil henchmen of sadistic devils. When you don't have any contact with political opponents, it's tempting to demonize them. The less contact you have with them, the easier it is to de-humanize them. Pretty soon, you have visions of your opponents carelessly and wantonly plotting all kinds of evil, and you ... you alone ... must cry out as the voice of sanity to the corrupted world.

That's why we need pubs in this country, and fewer bars. (I'm only half joking, to be honest ...) 

• If you're in a room with a bunch of other people, alcohol having the power it does, inevitably you're going to have conversations with people, and that's a good thing. That's what a pub is supposed to be, a place where you can meet people, neighbors and strangers, and have a pleasant conversation.
• On the other hand, a bar is just a place that sells booze. You can tell the difference. Bars have TVs, which makes them no different than your living room - you just pay more for the booze. Or they have loud, pounding music that stirs up the men to attempt to have sex with women.

Bars are just holding pens for morons. Instead, we need some place to have useful conversations. Pubs are crucial to the mental health of a society. Perhaps they may have even prevented Geiger from this runaway paranoia. Hey, it may be too late for Geiger, but maybe there's some other bitter guy out there, who just needs a human face to restrain his anger. You never know.

....Nixon's quote:

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

Being the class act that he is I sure W will, but I can only pity those whose hearts and souls are full of nothing but hate--for W, for our country, and for our culture.

Pretty sad.

I just wonder if this country could ever again launch any military action that lasts over two weeks without being "mired" or suffering even 1 casualty without the runocrats whining, crying and being hysterical. By today's standards we would have been unable to fight WW II and would have had to pull out after Guadalcanal or earlier. We, as a nation, apparently lack the will to be a major power in the world anymore. Why would any seemingly sane government of any country wish to be allied with us if after a few casualties we cut and run and leave them in the lurch and many of our so called citizens on the left actively give moral aid and comfort to the enemy.

Personally I don't believe we should be the world's policeman because I don't give a s##t about Bosnia, Rwanda, Darfur, Tibet, Sudan, Myanmar and all the other cess pits around the world ad infinium unless U.S. interests or security are directly involved or we are threatened and/or attacked. But I do believe if you start something you should finish it and not run away.

Then we can see if Bob and all his likes over at huff and other MSM will send their hate to him in 2012 when there are still troops in Iraq and he to will be a murderer or a will he just show his hypocrisy of hating any one with a R and loving a D even when they do the same thing

How long will Obama get to do all the change he calling for: 100 days, 2 years, first term or all 8 years. If he does not move fast enough will they then call for his replacement. When does the next president have to take responsibility and stop blaming him and having BDS

This guy admits, in plain black-and-white, his "hatred" of a sitting, U.S. President (elected with ~51% of the popular vote, I might add), and does not blink an eyelash in doing so.  I might admire him for his candor, but for the fact that hate of another person is never something admirable, and, in a way, makes one a "murderer" (in the Christian sense, anyway).

I located too many stories under 'Bob Geiger veteran' to read enough queries. The first ~25 simply stated he was a veteran.

In regard to a murderer, how many associates of the Clintons died and how were they forgotten?

JDW

If you mention ANWR it means you don't care about the environment but when congress says ANWR it means you don't care about the gasoline prices