Pot and Kettle: Huff-Po Asks Dan Rather If Bushies Are Dishonest

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By Tim Graham | April 23, 2008 - 17:26 ET

Rachel Sklar of The Huffington Post interviewed Dan Rather, which is not a real surprise, since she’s been supportive of his vengeful lawsuit against CBS News (and his partner in fraud Mary Mapes is a Huff-Poster). But why would she ask Rather to decry the dishonesty of the Bush administration, considering his own wallowing in falsehoods? Does the Huffington Post need to share Rather’s apparent delusion that the phony documents are real until he can be convinced otherwise? In Part II of her interview, after Rather denounced how bad economic news snuck up on us because "we were lied to and people dealt in sophistry at best and misled by big people in positions of power," the honesty question followed.

SKLAR: You mentioned people in positions of power not being forthright, or lying outright. There are so many echoes in that elsewhere, especially with respect to the Iraq war, obviously. Do you see this as a pattern of how this administration has operated?

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RATHER: The short answer is yes. It isn't just this administration. But since they have the executive power of government, I think they have a lot to answer for. They've had the legislating power in Washington for a little while. But it isn't just this administration. You know, mark well that I say in some cases we've been lied to and in other cases dealt in sophistry that was misleading. But there are people in Congress on the other side of the aisle who either didn't know what they should have known and/or didn't fully express what they knew, and to that matter, give heed to an opinion as clearly as they might.

When Sklar changed the subject to the presidential campaign, Rather declared that John McCain might not be punished by association with President Bush in supporting the war in Iraq. But it’s odd to read Rather suggesting that some liberals really don’t think McCain is a war hero, perhaps just a schlub who stumbled into a prison camp:

But that his support of the war I know is seen by people who feel strongly about what is happening with the war — and who doesn't feel strongly about it? — that there is a large segment of the voting population that sees McCain's support of the administration and support of the war as a total minus. That there is at least as large a segment of the country that sees him as a war hero in Vietnam War, and if not a hero, certainly someone who sacrificed mightily for five and a half years in a North Vietnamese prison camp. They see the fact that he has extensive military experience. He graduated from [the] Naval Academy and going on to being a base fighter pilot which is an extremely difficult accomplishment.

From there, Sklar unloaded the Media Matters line that McCain’s service (and his granting broad media access) is leading to rosy coverage:

SKLAR: Do you think that part of that lies in the fact that he is often portrayed so rosily in the press? You know, you sort of described his military record. Most people - when he's being spoken of everybody does make a point when they are criticizing him, before doing so, makes the point of saying, "but he's a war hero." Do you think that even the act of disclaiming like that sort of creates a predisposition towards gentleness with him on the part of the press? Rachel Maddow on MSNBC called it a "romantic notion" of McCain. So do you think that he's getting an advantage from that?

RATHER: Well, what a good question. And the straight answer is: they don't think so but probably. He has a lot of things going for him with the press not the least of all is that he has a long record of being accessible to the press, of being friendly with the press — challenging, criticizing when he thinks it's called for to his advantage, but he has developed a lot of good contacts in the press and he's done it the old fashioned way: he meets with reporters, he travels with reporters, he's accessible when he travels with reporters and that does make a difference one way, and I will argue that is shouldn't make a difference, but it does make a difference. Do I think that there is in some ways a romanticized view of him? The answer is, yes. But who would argue that there isn't some of the same thing in a different context with Barack Obama?

SKLAR: I would agree, absolutely.

RATHER: So it's hard to criticize McCain for - if it's only (I don't happen to think it is only) but if it is only because he sees good relations with the press in general and to reporters and various reporting organizations as to his advantage, that who can blame him, if that's all it is? But I don't think that's all it is. I think he genuinely likes the reporters. Not every reporter but he genuinely likes reporters. I think he understands the role of the press in a free society and that comes through — and yes, because I am a journalist, I may particularly like that — but that's not a bad characteristic to have as a president.... McCain's flaws, real or imagined or made up [!], are going to come to the fore whether one subscribes to his view that the press in some ways has a romanticized view of him or not. And that's true of the other two as well.

Rather’s poor-mouthing the economy matched the current network tone in comparing the current situation as the worst since the Great Depression. (None of these liberals remembers the hyperinflation and high unemployment in America in 1979 and 1980 under Jimmy Carter):

It's a tumultuous time, and a very deeply disturbing and concerning time. And in my lifetime, you'd have to go back to World War II and the Great Depression to find a time that was more worrisome.

(Screen capture from a funny earlier blog post.)

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

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roll tape of Sadam interview about America the Great Satan

Asking this guy anything about the current Administration is akin to asking Sadam about America the day before we hung him. How disengenuous.

Not simply Carter's economic mess, Tim

Why is it that the MSM seems to forget the economic crisis left to the incoming Bush administration in 2001? Certainly the much loved by the MSM leftie economists understood what was going on during the late 90's.

This is Dean Baker, of CEPR, in March of 2001 reviewing that collapse which the Clinton administration left behind (my bold):

"The decline in the stock market was an entirely predictable event for anyone familiar with basic arithmetic, even if the exact timing could not be known in advance. The nation's political leaders chose to ignore the stock market bubble and instead focused their attention on distant and relatively minor problems ... As a result, millions of families have seen their dreams of a secure retirement or their children's college education vanish with the stock market bubble. The level of negligence of the nation's political leaders in ignoring the stock bubble exceeds anything since the days of Herbert Hoover."  

The MSM must have thought that he Hoover comparison was about President Bush, as they have latched onto using it to describe the Bush economic grasp these past many years; however, Baker was speaking of the time before Bush - where the ground was set for much of today's economic problems.

No surprise this makes the

No surprise this makes the Huffpo Post.  A lefty conducting an interview for other lefties to read with a former lefty newsreader who was busted for lying and lost his job.  This appeals to the lowest common denominator that actually reads Huffpo and believes everything they read because they are incapable of criticle thinking or don't want their fringe views destroyed by reality.  Its only a "very disturbing time" to these people because socialist views are frowned upon in this country that allows unlimited opportunity to everyone.

You mean Dan didn't say of

You mean Dan didn't say of course they're not dishonest!! You can be honest and lie about any number of things?

That was his opinion of Bill Clinton, after all....

Pot and kettle?

Is that anything like "Dumb and Dumber"?

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?" - Firesign Theater

How the conversation should have gone...

SKLAR: You mentioned people in positions of power not being forthright, or lying outright. There are so many echoes in that elsewhere, especially with respect to the Iraq war, obviously. Do you see this as a pattern of how this administration has operated?

RATHER: The short answer is yes. It isn't just this administration. It's also me, in my reporting of this administration.  But since they have the executive power of government, I think they have a lot to answer for.  I don't have anything to answer for, so I report what I please about them, truth or not, it doesn't matter. They've had the legislating power in Washington for a little while, and I had America's ear every night for over 20+ years. You know, mark well that I say in some cases we've been lied to and in other cases dealt in sophistry that was misleading.  Mark also that in some cases we've lied and in other cases dealt in the same sophistry with the same misleading intentions.  But there are people in Congress on the other side of the aisle who either didn't know what they should have known and/or didn't fully express what they knew, and to that matter, give heed to an opinion as clearly as they might.  As for me, I knew what I shouldn't have known, since what I knew wasn't true and/or just didn't fully divulge my intentions.  But, nevermind that Skylar.  It didn't work.  The rat bastard still won the presidency, so I failed.  I maybe made the race closer, but we all know close only counts in horeshoes and bad breath in the personal space, as mine can melt the chrome off the bumper of a '57 Chevy.

It's all

prapaganda by the Left. They try pretty successfully to emphasize falsehoods to fit their storylines and reinforce each others lies. What a load of C####p.

Dam Blather knows dishonesty...

He could even be an authority on it with Al Gore.