Daily Kos: Conservatives Are Naive, Afraid, Allergic to Deep Thinking

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Liberal arrogance alert: In promoting his new book (and Brent Bozell's attack on it, too), leftist Eric Alterman asks his fans at the Altercation blog to travel over to Daily Kos: "If Brent is not your cup of ideological tea, I came across this smart commentary on Daily Kos, which illustrates at least one of the reasons I wanted to write the book in the first place, and so I'm pleased to see it."

In it, the Daily Kos diarist "Killer of Sacred Cows" theorizes on the differences between liberals and conservatives in a post titled Liberalism: Reclaiming the Right to Think. First and foremost, conservatives are rigid and inflexible in their ideological rules, while liberals are more fluid in their means to achieve liberal ends. Why? Because liberals are the deep thinkers, while conservatives are naive, afraid, and allergic to thinking deeply. The Kosmonaut advises: Introduce some complexity to their mental diet, because their brains are starving:

Many progressives and liberals have real trouble understanding why the Republican base continues to support the Republican elite. One of the answers may be that they've been so trained into the simple, one-step thinking that they are having trouble figuring out why Mark Foley's and Larry Craig's homosexuality was tolerated by a group that claims to be against all gays. The answer is that of course they're shocked by the revelation that Foley was pursuing sixteen-year-old male pages, but they revert to the easy answer. They know that the party still stands against any rights for gays - after all, they're saying it all the time, from right-wing radio to national television -  so the party must still be right, and Foley and Craig (and many others) get dismissed as aberrations, just blips on the conservative radar that will be quickly forgotten because thinking about them causes such cognitive dissonance and distress.

Am I saying that the base is stupid? No. But I am saying that they're naive, and afraid, and trained to think not simply, but easily. They're not looking for the simple answer, because that answer might still have several steps. They're looking for the easy answer, the one with no complications or annoying anomalies or dissonances. And conservative rhetoric happily provides it for them. Gays are bad. Immigrants are bad. Black people are bad. Women are bad, especially if they have an abortion or love another woman. And so on. That's one-step thinking, that's comfortable, that's easy, and that's safe.

Education is key to breaking out of this cycle. It's no accident that the rise of fundamentalism has come in tandem with the decline in educational standards, the disappearance of the civics and ethics classes that were commonplace in the 1950s, the dumbing-down of American politics, media, and news. Without the ability to think through a logical chain of thought, and without being continually challenged to use that ability, people have become inured to the tripe that Fox News spouts every time they turn on the tube. Resistance, for these folks, may indeed be futile... or impossible.

The answer? Simple, but not easy.

Talk to your Republican neighbors, family, and friends. Ease them into a simple, but not easy, discussion of the issues. Help them get comfortable with complex answers rather than easy ones. See if you can find some common ground. Barack's call for common ground isn't just for common ground among liberals and progressives, although that's certainly part of it. We also need to find common ground with the people who have never understood how to deal with complexity and make it familiar.

Add some complexity to your conversations. See where it leads. That may be our real saving grace as liberals and progressives: reclaiming the right of all persons to think.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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lol

The Daily Kos is too funny.

When You Lack a Moral Compass You can Believe Anything.

So people with a core set of beliefs, a firm sense of right and wrong are just not deep thinkers.

I think not.

The problem dear liberal is within yourself. When one lack's a moral compass, you can convince yourself of anything.

???

Allan I'm on your side. My comment was just facetious....

Where's Leon the deep

Where's Leon the deep thinker to show us all the way?

We're lost without our resident, deep thinking liberal.

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

 

Yes we can. Hope. Change.

Yes we can. Hope. Change. Yes we can. Hope. Change. Yes we can.

Liberals say the deepest things.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

No blood for oil! Bush is

No blood for oil! Bush is Hitler! The debate is OVER! Rock the vote! Vote or die! Keep your laws off my vagina! We are the world!

Their thoughts are as deep as a dimple on a golf ball.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

COMPEXITY, OR SPINE OF JELLY?

Yeah! You liberals are complex alright. So "complex", as a matter fact, that it will take a Houdini to unravel the royal mess you are making of your primaries.

Typical liberal mumbo-jumbo. Trying to pass of  a "spineless, stand-for-nothing, beleive-in-nothing" philosophy, as "complex" "deep thinking".

Tell you what. If what you libs have to offer is all that's available, I will gladly "starve" my brain to death. 

   

How can you argue

with deep, complex and insightful thinking like that

hypocrisy mushroom cloud.

It's funny because everything he accuses Republicans of, can be applied to
the article he wrote. For example:

"They're looking for the easy answer, the one with no complications or
annoying anomalies or dissonances. And conservative rhetoric happily provides
it for them. Gays are bad. Immigrants are bad. Black people are bad. Women are
bad, especially if they have an abortion or love another woman. And so on.
That's one-step thinking, that's comfortable, that's easy, and that's
safe."

That entire thing is a simple minded generalization of a large group of
people. Especially when we have seen such racially charged attitudes from the
democrats over the last few months.

Racial attitudes

And the absolute worst racial attitudes seem to be coming from blacks. They still claim Obama isn't black enough (here, here, here, and here). And this comes from those liberal, progressive deep thinkers like Biden and Jackson. LOL.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Through out life there is

Through out life there is one certainty that is near 100% accurate. Whenever
a person puts down another person's intelligence you can rest assured they are a
total ignoramus.

 

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

You nailed it

This is what Libs always do. They characterize their opponents or the opposing viewpoint in simple-minded generalizational terms - which usually happen to be false (unless applied to themselves) - and then they refute the argument or discredit the person based on the false premises they set up. 

This makes life easier for them.

as usual...

     As usual, one hundred and eighty degrees out of phase. When they figure out something that conservatives have that they don't, the leftist losers figure out a way to claim it for the libs. They attack anyone who steps out of the correct way to think, talk or do...

Liberman?, burn down houses in the woods?, turn lab rats loose?, throw pies at people?, shout down those they don't agree with?, deniers are flat earthers?...  YES, THOSE LIBERALS ARE CRITICAL THINKERS ALL RIGHT!!!!

I suppose he hasn't read any

I suppose he hasn't read any Buckley, or Sowell, or Nordlinger, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Debatable

I'd love to see Dinesh D'Souza or Tony Snow mop up with this deep [doo-doo] thinker. 

  "Boy! I say......boy.....you're about as sharp as a bowl-ling ball." - Foghorn Leghorn 

pbanks7

i hate to be a spelling nazi but it is DIP not DEEP 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

 From what I've heard and

 From what I've heard and seen, a liberals deep thinking produces arguments with such rejoinders as: "You're a fascist, Nazi, homophobe...(insert any expletive here)". And usually stated right off the bat.

 

Rex

Don't forget the ever popular "those people can afford it" and the clever play on words like General Betray Us.

the ever popular

And, of course, "Bush lied, people died" we have a lib in our office who blurts that out at least once a week when the discussion/argument involves too much deep thought

I would like to comment on

I would like to comment on this, but alas, it is so difficult to think of anything complex to say..  but I'll try.  I try to live by this creed:  A wrong thing done in a wrong way is wrong.  A right thing done in a wrong way is wrong. A wrong thing done in a right way is wrong. A right thing done in a right way..  is, thankfully, RIGHT.  There are simple absolutes in this life, and when we strive to live by those absolutes, we can always take the high ground.  

Whew..  this is getting too complex..  that's as far as I can go right now..  gotta take a breather.   

Oh my...

How patronizing.

I got the same treatment at a liberal blog when I rebutted the flap over Rush's "phony soldiers" statement. The guy started off with "Rush could have re-edited it'" and then used that as his basis to try to take me down. He went into a rant about Rush fans being "robots" that can't think for themselves. His last line was, "Are you a robot, Jeff?"

He had asked how I knew what Rush really said. He had no response to "I heard it live, not memorex."

Now, there's no doubt we start looking at an issue from a certain point of view, just like they do. Ours happens to be different, and based upon our experiences, just like theirs. They just seem to think (almost to a man) that our POV is illegitimate and should be at the very least ignored and even outright prohibited from the arena of ideas.

/rant off

You're not the only one...

Who thinks for himself but gets called "a robot" by those who generally-don't...
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

Hree's my response at DKos.....maybe it'll help????

How patronizing.

I got the same treatment at another blog when I rebutted the flap over Rush's "phony soldiers" statement. The guy started off with "Rush could have re-edited it" and then used that conjecture as fact in order to try to take me down. He went into a rant about Rush fans being "robots" that can't think for themselves. His last line was, "Are you a robot, Jeff?"

He had asked how I knew what Rush really said. He had no response to "I heard it live, not memorex."

This is the experience I get at blogs that share your "progressive" bent. Is that inclusive? Is that "reality based?"

Now, there's no doubt we (conservatives/Republicans) start looking at an issue from a certain point of view, just like you do. Ours happens to be different, and based upon our experiences, just like yours. Why does it seem you want our opinions ignored, nay, prohibited from the arena of ideas? If your opinions are so "correct", what do you fear?

When will you on the left realize we care as much, maybe more, about this ongoing experiment we call America? Have you investigated the the other side, checked http://redstate.com, http://hotair.com, or http://www.nationalr... to see an opposite point of view that might challenge your cherished beliefs? I came here to see what those who disagree with me have to say - in order to see the issues from another perspective - for a better understanding of the issues of the day, have you done the same? Or do you, like Alterman or the diarist above, blatantly misrepresent our positions on the issues and then dismiss us? If you truly look at the issues from a more complex viewpoint, then why does "the other side" have no place in that? I'm just asking.

Jeff Weimer

 

P.S. Do you think this above will make it past dKos moderation?

So Easy A Caveman Can Do It

And if your neighbors and conservative friends resist your deep, highly educated converastions, its not because of your arrogance and smug attitude. Its because they're idiots.

where is the demonstration and example of the higher thinking

all i saw out of that was bitter whining and name calling, nothing that expresses higher intelligence or superior knowledge.

oooooh gays bad, ooooo immigrants bad. wow he couldn't have gotten things more wrong.

i personally dont give a crap about a persons sexuality, sorry to all of you that have a religious stand, but i believe that is a right to persue happiness issue and combine it with the fact that this country was first populated by people that were seeking freedom from religious persecution and expression, a persons sexuality is a freedom of choice that must be protected no different that your religion. this comes down to that whole thomas jefferson idea that your rights end at my nose visa versa. now of course i'm just a dumb conservative incapable of deep thought.

and since when were immigrants bad? we have a system that encourages immigrants to come to this country and intergrate into our society either for a short time or a lifetime. i don't think anyone has a problem with immigrants. but dumb stooopid republicans have a problem with is when people who illegal navigate around the system in place to live in our society and mooch on it's socialized benifits and bleed it's economy to support family membersoutside of this country. but republicans are niave.

now for the record i am not a republican, i am conservative in my decision making process, but to call republicans naive and incapable of deep thought, what an incredible thoughtless and naive statement to make. here i'll point a finger and do a litl name calling that's accurate, liberals make decisions based on envy and emotion and typical don't rely on facts, and i can thoughtfully make that statement and back it up with 50 years of political and personal decisions, and i didn't put much thought into that because it's such an established fact, just like the earth is round.

lunaticcringeradio

I gotta hand it to him, he's pretty bright...

He got through the entire screed without mentioning either the word "tax" or the word "spend." My hat is off, but I doubt he wants to tangle with the likes of me in a coffeeshop or here over politics/policy...
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

I particularly like this

I particularly like this line:

Education is key to breaking out of this cycle. It's no accident that the rise of fundamentalism has come in tandem with the decline in educational standards, the disappearance of the civics and ethics classes that were commonplace in the 1950s, the dumbing-down of American politics, media, and news

Are you kidding me? Lets see what is run by the left? Media, news, the schools systems. American politics for 40 years, up to the 1980’s.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

Caution!

The truth means nothing to these people.  Deep thinking means merely obfuscation.

Faith

Electricians know, when you wire a three-phase motor with two of the phases swapped, the motor runs backwards. This makes me wonder if the the Liberals realize their 'motor' runs backwards. They've swapped cause and effect, and now realize on effect causing the cause. The CO2 that they say causes a rising temperature being backwards is one example. The following sentence is another:

It's no accident that the rise of fundamentalism has come in tandem with the decline in educational standards, the disappearance of the civics and ethics classes that were commonplace in the 1950s, the dumbing-down of American politics, media, and news.

The don't seem to realize that the liberal dismantling of education standards, the 'everybody wins' mentality, the disappearance from schools of the morals taught in religious tomes (whether you believe the tomes or not!) are a fundamental cause of the 'dumbing-down' of politics, media and news. There IS, afterall, a reason that the USA Today is one of the biggest newspapers.... the articles are written at a 5th grade level so everyone can understand them!

The oddest part of the reality of the non-faith-based left, is they require so much of what they spout to be taken on faith. Ignoring the realities of Canada, England, France, they still believe that Universal Healthcare is the best way to go. Ignoring the realities of Canada, England, France, they still believe that high taxes work wonderfully to promote business while keeping everyone employed.

Ignoring history, our black communities overwhelmingly vote Democratic, without realizing that some of the highest paid black people are conservative at heart, and worked to achieve that which they've achieved.

We still live in a faith-based society. Faith in government, faith in politicians. The one thing that will let is down, is faith in another human. Believe in yourself. Believe in your God. Those are the only two entities that won't let you down.

Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini

dmntd1 good post, spot

dmntd1

good post, spot on.. 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

Good Post Dm

Liberals don't even realize that they follow a variation on the ten commandments.

#1  You Shall Have no other Gods before me.

ever realize how mad liberals get when someone like George Bush puts God above his own ability to lead.  They say he's crazy.  They loved Bill Clinton who only gave lip-service to God and Church but in actually held out the state as the highest authority and his leadership thereof.

Sadly, liberlism is the practice of acknowleding a small problem with a system and then designing a policy around that issue.  

A key argument for abortion these days is that if we don't keep abortion legal women will die during illegal abortions.  I horrible argument but they make it with a straight face, so much so that they actually had a pro-abortion march ironically titled "March for Women's Lives".  

Libs get into heated arguments

I don't know about anyone else but most of the liberals that I know get all freaked out when you try to have a conversation with them that deals in facts that are contrary to the way they have been trained to think.

When you start pointing out things about how the media reports things in a slanted way or that Fox may be legitimate news from an often-times conservative viewpoint you just get a look from them like "you must be nuts" and they start ad homenem attacks or name calling. 

If they are too civil for that, you just get them really steamed and the converstation level starts escalating until you find yourself stooping to their level, catch yourself and having to get out.

I do agree though, that education is everything, in the sense that todays kids are being brainwashed by the Public School system, and it's not by conservatives.

Deep thinkers.

Liberals are only deep thinkers when they're mental illness allows them to 'not' think of having sex with their mother/father and raping they're own children. 99% of the sexual offenders are known liberals and the other 1% lie when they say they aren't.

 

Old, Retired and glad of it.

WHOA there,

WHOA there, cowboy!

Uncalled for.

Anyway, remember that you all here at Newsbusters are guilty of exactly the same simplistic stereotyping. Remember that article about differences between brain activity in self-identified liberals and conservatives? The response here was to overwhelmingly stereotype liberals as people who don't think AT ALL, but instead only feel things. Ironically, the exact opposite of the study's findings.

If this article drives you crazy, as it should, remember that feeling the next time you pigeonhole a liberal as someone who doesn't use logic to make decisions. None of us should be thinking this dismissively about the other side of the argument.

Cleverpig, With regard to

Cleverpig,

With regard to that post, Al Gore has a term for Scrapiron: statistical outlier.

Sure thing, I'm not one to

Sure thing, I'm not one to worry about it :) Made it easy to choose which of the many posts here to respond to though!

hi again pig

: )

 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

Helloooo

Helloooo

: )

: )

 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

hi pig

: )

 

"Television is where you watch people in your living room that you would not want near your house."       Groucho

That's genius. 

That's genius. 

A stunningly profound

A stunningly profound observation indeed...and they say conservatives are incapable of "deep thinking".  Obviously "they" have never encountered Scrapiron.

Jer

It's truly profound. I'm

It's truly profound. I'm gonna put it on a bumper sticker.  

Another uninteresting vampire

"Many progressives and liberals have real trouble understanding why the Republican base continues to support the Republican elite."   So, I guess many progressives and liberals ... have problems with complexity, too, eh?

"Am I saying that the base is stupid? No. But I am saying that they're naive, and afraid, and trained to think not simply, but easily."   Excuse me, even if this is true (it isn't), who has been running the educational system for the last few decades?

"And conservative rhetoric happily provides it for them. Gays are bad. Immigrants are bad. Black people are bad. Women are bad, especially if they have an abortion or love another woman. And so on. That's one-step thinking, that's comfortable, that's easy, and that's safe."    Well, to be clear, he displays the utterly false assumption that conservative rhetoric proclaims that gays, immigrants, blacks, and women are bad. After all, can anyone tell me where I can find anti-black or anti-woman articles written by conservatives? He just assumes that they're out there.

Conservatives oppose the liberal policies of the NAACP, so this guy assumes that we're against blacks. He can't make a distinction between blacks and the dictates of the black political leadership. Conservatives oppose liberal groups like NOW and NARAL, so this guy assumes we're against women. He can't see a distinction. Clearly, this guy can't imagine how to support blacks and women and gays and immigrants (and so on) without relying on what liberal political machines tell him to do. His worldview is dictated to him.  He doesn't stray from his liberal assumptions about what conservatives are actually arguing. Which displays his own comfortable, easy, and safe worldview.

This guy is a standard liberal vampire: he has no reflection.

They will Demonzie, KC

What can be more easy and simple-minded than to just demonize someone over a differing opinion?

You said it well.  Disagree with our position on affirmative action, you hate blacks.  (hat-tip to Kanye West).  Etc.

I realize that to demonize someone you have to have Demon Eyes!

Wow. I always thought it

Wow.

I always thought it was the other way around. Liberals don't think nearly as deeply as conservatives. Example: homosexuality. A typical liberal justification is a surface-based justification: well, whatever feels "right", says the cast-and-moulded liberal. Do you see any deep thought there? No, just the typical hippie, liberal, do-what-feels-right, drug-induced response.

A careful observer will note that the author of this book used "surface-based justification" to justify "surface-based conservative thinking". Ironic, no?

As a conservative--I confess to---

As a conservative--I confess to---being very traditional. I am not instantly challenged by change. I prefer to examine it and, yes, I use my criteria, (why should I use anyone else's?), I evaluate it and accept or reject it. We all do that! I do accept input from multiple  sources before I make up my mind.

I watched a vid recently of people on Clearwater beach being interviewed. They were asked--"If you were to vote right now , who would you vote for?". Then the interviewer would ask which policy/platform of the person of their choice did they like the best.

 It was a sad pathetic statement about the idiocy of the American voter. Folks--you can like me or hate me, I just don't give a damn anymore. Almost everyone of the people interviewed were shown to be shallow idiots. IDIOTS--not just uninformed---IDIOTS. They illustrated that voting, by most people is purely an emotional issue decided on minimal input. Many young women picked Hillary and outright said it was because she was a woman. God help us.  Obama supporters cited "change", but when asked what was to be changed, almost to a person, did not have a single clue what was or needed to be changed. Out of approximately twenty people, only one picked McCain. (In my own unscientific analysis, this means 18 idiots, one insane fool). This adds to 19. There was one young man who chose Obama, He was able to articualte a couple of issues vis a vis Obama. I disagreed with him, but respected him and his opinion. It was not because Obama is black--it dealt with foreign realtions and the Iraq war. He, obviously, bless him. had spent some time reading or watching the news to understand the issues.

So when you go to the polls in November, remember that only one out of twenty people voting with you have a F*****g clue as to what is going on with regards to the economy, Iraq, sniper fire, illegal immigration and on. These are your fellow Americans. These are the people that our troops put their lives on the line for every day. These are the people that are turning me into a defeatist. Thay cannot stop long enough to dedicate one stinking hour or two a week to see what is happening in our world.

So remember, the war is for oil, Cheney blew up the towers, no plane hit the Pentagon and Howdy Doody is a real person. And, believe it or not, one young lady was going to vote for Hillary because her mother told her that Hillary was the best candidate. I at least had some respect for this wombat because she respected her Mom.

God save America.

I post this extract as a reminder--

  I post this extract again as a reminder--why most here are conservatives---

"Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

  • creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
  • satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
  • augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
  • rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

 

Shut up --Dr Rossiter, just give me my welfare check, get out of Iraq and let's have a woman or a black to justify our great grandparents oppression of Amerinds, Asians, Blacks etal. It is fitting that we all be punished for the sins of our forbears..

 

it just feels so good

to enable

 

 

pay no attention to the real consequences

I think I saw that same video...

It was a mix of funny and depressing, but heavy on the "depressing."

Anyway, I'm hoping more lefties will read this thread than the Mumia thread. If they could, I'd appreciate help on my earlier Mumia question. Thanks in advance.
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

Black Sheep Squadron

Remember Pappy Boyington? I read his autobiography twice. I still crack up about the line when he was a referee for Big Time Wrestling. He looked out at all the people in the crowd and he realized they all had one equal vote, just like him.

  MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.

This Isn't Even Worth It

This piece is embarrassing, even for Daily Kos. The depth of condescension and just plain stupidity boggles the mind. Eric Alterman and his ilk have a long way to go: They've got to stop the train and turn it around and all that, and that's an ugly and demoralizing thing to watch.

A culture of hatred

What really gets me is that liberals can't acknowledge the depth of their hatred for anyone who doesn't agree with them. Ward Churchill is just the most notorious example. A professor of English composition at North Idaho College, Jessica Bryan, "says it's all right to talk about executing "anyone who's ever voted Republican" as long as it's said with a smile."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54670

Their talk about the decline in educational standards is rather disingenuous considering that, according to a 2004 NYT article, Democrats outnumbered Republicans 3-1 in liberal arts and social services and that the imbalance is likely to get worse. For once, NYT got it right.

  Oh the liberals can

  Oh the liberals can indeed be quite complex in their thinking processes.  However too much of their thinking relies on false premises about the real world.  Communism is an excellent way of organizing society.  Much better than free markets and capitalism. .....In theory. The problem occurs when it's applied to real people.  Then it barely functions.  Liberals who recognize their own superiority then attribute their failures to the 'simple' people who are watching and telling them, "uh, this doesn't work". 

   For example, I once worked for a big company operating a large complex machine that suffered a lot of breakdowns and operational problems.  I and others worked with the engineers on the shop floor to overcome these problems but when we encountered something that just didn't work the problem went all the way to the top engineer who at times would come out and say he had verified all the figures and drawings and that the problem had to be something we were not doing correctly.  Well no, it wasn't us.  It was because his calculations did not allow for things like changes in ambient temperatures and differing hardness in the sheet stock we were using, etc.  But he would not listen to us 'simple' uneducated people on the shop floor.  This is analogous to the 'Elite' liberal thinkers who are always looking at and blaming 'other's who cannot implement their highly evolved wisdom.  Wisdom that at it's core is flawed.

 

Liberal thinking? Change the words

Some examples of deep liberal thinking:

  • What's a terrorist? A. Another man's freedom fighter

  • What two words do you take out of a church to make it more progressive? A. Jesus Christ

  • What are underperforming schools called in Massachusetts? A. "Commonwealth priority," to avoid poisoning teacher and student morale

  • The 3 most politically incorrect words in use today? A. Ho-Ho-Ho, uttered by Santa Clauses the world over.

  • One of the most intimidating phrases ever uttered, as determined by a respected Commission on Human Relations panel? A. This is America: WHEN ORDERING ‘PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH.

Yeah, the liberals are sure out front in the arena of complex, intelligent thoughts.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Alterman's thesis is

Alterman's thesis is identical to what I read here at NB virtually every day--only the respective ideologies are swapped.  Bor-ing.

Jer

Boring? Then

Boring? Then Good-by.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Thanks, TnT...have a good

Thanks, TnT...have a good one!

Jer

 

 

I think, therefor

I'm liberal. I don't think I'm liberal, therefor I'm alive, have a job (actually between) know when there's wool over my eyes.

This was an attempt by the libs to appear that they know everything, not realizing that they and their minions in the media are going to lose BIG time, in the near future.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

In the end, all it boils

In the end, all it boils down to is more excuses of why they can't win elections. Plain & simple.

Beating...

I'd like to kick that guys ass.

Ante Up

I'll see your Daily Kos: Conservatives Are Naive, Afraid, Allergic to Deep Thinking, By Tim Graham | March 29, 2008

And call with Liberal Writer: U.S. Left Is America's Elite, By Matthew Sheffield | June 15, 2007

*sitting back to collect the kitty*

I posted the Matt Taibbi article to the Leftist boards I frequent when it was published. The overwhelming reaction by the Libs? "That's a fake article. No one would EVER say that about a Liberal."

*chuckle* Lemmings.

Liberalism: Reclaiming the

Liberalism: Reclaiming the Right to Think

Liberals have always had the right to think.  They've just never exercised that right.

Nuanced, Brave, Deep Thought from a Liberal on Easter...

Sunday, March 23, 2008 -comments on

"Obama: The Biblical Prophecy" at Dummie Funnies

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kayinmaine said...

So this is the day all you reich wing NEOCON godfucks *spit*
believe HAHAHAHAHAHA! that some fairy tale god HAHAHAHAHAHHA! actually
came back from the dead?!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

If I pray for anything its for Iran to get A MILLION NUKES!

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Yeah, it's anecdotal, but it does sort of set the lower (but not the lowest) end of the liberal spectrum.

That's some mighty deep thinking there, Choam.

You can google KayInMaine... and find a 40-something rejected nutball ranting to a teeeeeny-tiny choir. But I don't recommend it.

I pray for her son.

Liberal Philosophy

Liberal Philosophy

"Liberals
share a philosophy of 'no fault' living, premised upon the nihilistic
belief that we are helpless pawns in this life -- that the forces of
nature and society around us are overwhelming -- that we are
essentially victims. ...Since there is no grand design or purpose to
the universe, since life itself is nothing more than an accident, sin
and guilt are burdens we don't have to carry. In effect, the rules
governing man's behavior can be whatever we want them to be. This
vision is inconsistent with religious faith, that is why liberals work
assiduously to censor religious expression and substitute the laws of
the State for those of the Creator of the Universe." --Linda Bowles

 

 

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"-Aristotle

Liberals are Bigots

 

 

Liberals are Bigots

"What,
after all, are the characteristics of bigotry? A venomous rejection of
any view contrary to one's own, a refusal even to entertain an opposing
view with detachment, a denial of the legitimacy of disagreement, a
total contempt for ancient tradition, and a militant eagerness to
coerce those who disagree -- such attitudes are the very essence of
bigotry, liberal-style." --Joseph Sobran

 

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"-Aristotle

The liberals own party is

The liberals own party is in shambles....they can't even get it together with Fla. and Michigan...let every vote count...blah blah blah...they can't even follow their own rules and laws they themselves make....they wouldn't know the difference between a lie adn the truth...and they talk about us....what deep thinkers they are...the only thing they are in deep is doo-doo....their own too.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Liberals may be deep

Liberals may be deep Drinkers or deep Stinkers, but most are certainly not deep Thinkers. The majority sit around all day watching Oprah and Jerry Springer and think they can solve all the world's problems by attending a code pink protest.

 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Alterman is right

That guy at the Daily Kos is really really really smart.

He used the word "dissonance" in the article.  Twice!

Straight outta Psych class (intro level), this pimple-faced poseur is the typical O-bama supporter.

He just "gets it", ya know?

As a conservative I find

As a conservative I find Eric Alterman's comments to be quite funny given their simple minded attacks and hatred towards Christians and other individuals that they disagree with. 

I find this part of his comments ironic, "And conservative rhetoric happily provides it for them. Gays are bad. Immigrants are bad. Black people are bad. Women are bad, especially if they have an abortion or love another woman. And so on. That's one-step thinking, that's comfortable, that's easy, and that's safe." 

 

Let us turn it around and make it fit Liberal rhetoric.  "And Liberals happily provides it for them.  Christians are bad.  Black and Latinos that are not Liberals are sell outs and uncle toms.  Conservative women are bad and sell outs, espically if they have refused to have an abortion or said that homosexuality is wrong.  That is one-step thinking, that's comfortable, that's easy, and that's safe." 

 

I also find it amusing that Eric Alterman calls for the same unity that Obama has called for.  Wow, has Eric seen what a uniter Barack Obama is?  He has "REALLY" been able to unite the Democratic party behind him, right?  wow! 

Not to mention that this sentence from Eric's piece is really going to lead everyone to holds hands right now.  "Add some complexity to your conversations. See where it leads. That may be our real saving grace as liberals and progressives: reclaiming the right of all persons to think."  So, by claiming that Conservatives can't think and Liberals can, he is going to unite Ameircans? 

 

Sorry, another Liberal simple minded fool who has been brainwashed to believe Obama's simple minded "message" of Hope and Change, Hope and Change.  Not that Obama is Hitler or Hugo Chavez, but these two also had simple minded messages of Hope and Change for their country and their fellow citizens.  We all know where that simple message swallowed and followed by the robotic, sheep-like, drooling masses of those nations led to.   

People, let's follow Eric's example and Obama's example.  Let's unite this country how they have united the Democratic Party.  Who's the Democratic Presidential candidate again?  Oh wait, it is just that the Democrats are such "deep" thinkers that they can't decide, right? 

Maybe we can follow the example of Obama's mentor, Rev. Wright, and unite the country with the rhetoric he spewed out every Sunday. 

Funny, for the Democratic Party being the party that would unite this country, they certainly have split along racial and gender lines.  Democratic voters who are black overwhelmingly vote for Obama, Democratic voters who are female overwhelmingly vote for Hillary.   Yes, let us follow the example of the Democratic party and how they have united. 

 

I think Eric needs to leave the comfort of his very small box and go have exchanges, or hear debates between Liberals and Conservatives that go on around the water cooler.  Just the other day I got into a debate with a Liberal atheist. 

After proving to her that believing in Evolution was a leap of faith, after proving to her how she had been brainwashed against Christianity, all she had left to say was, "Well Futbol, I am just comfortable believing what I believe." 

To Liberals it is not the truth they are after, it is whatever makes them superficially happy and comfortable.  It is all about pleasure of the body and feeling....yes feeling happy.  Anything that takes them out of their feeling happy comfort zone, they will not dare to touch. 

If liberalism is what

If liberalism is what results from deep thought, I recommend less deep thought.....much, much less.

It's not so much that liberals are deep thinkers, it's that they are creative, imaginative thinkers. You'd have to have a vivid imagination to come up with some of the nonsense they come up with.

 " I hope for change" is a

 " I hope for change" is a deep intellectual thought?

Perfectly stated!

Perfectly stated!

Ckc, it was Deep Thought

Ckc, it was Deep Thought that calculated the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything as "forty-two".  Which makes a lot more sense than liberalism any day. 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

The real difference between

The real difference between liberals and conservatives is conservatives have a defined set of moral values. Liberals by their own admission are "fluid". They dont know at any given time what they believe about any given subject. Their beliefs and morals are situational.

There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

Liberals are just beginning

Liberals are just beginning to figure out (or at least admit) that Bill and Hillary are congenital liars... Conservatives have known that for 16 years... Who's smarter?