Cooper's Soft With Obama: Patriotism's Going to Be Exploited

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By Tim Graham | March 21, 2008 - 08:34 ET

Barack Obama’s interview with Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night's "Anderson Cooper 360" on CNN was quite gentle. While Cooper did press Obama to address some of the criticisms that have erupted over his pastor Jeremiah Wright, he did not press him about Wright’s criticism of white people, or his claims of the government giving blacks AIDS, only one (truncated) 9/11 passage. Cooper used ten-foot-pole language about those people who would be alarmed by Wright’s America-bashing remarks: "Patriotism is going to be used by whoever it is you are facing." Used? Have you ever noticed how the media never asks if America is being "used" by leaders who spit on America?

Obama was spinning furiously.

I never heard anything nasty about America.

COOPER: In the past, you said you didn't think that your church was particularly controversial. Yesterday, in the speech, you said that -- you admitted that you did hear in the church remarks that could be considered controversial. Do you know specifically? Do you remember what you heard?

OBAMA: No. But let me give you examples. It didn't necessarily relate to some of the statements that have caused such controversy over the last few days. Reverend Wright, on occasion, for example, would talk about infidelity or issues having to do with family life in pretty blunt terms from the pulpit. And people would blush and blanch. So, it wasn't just related to his political views. He had a blunt style. And so there are -- no doubt that there were times where he might have said something that I didn't agree with politically. As I said before, I had never heard him say things that were as incendiary as the clips that have been shown.

Why fuss? He was retiring. Who picks on a retiree?

COOPER: Perhaps more incendiary of all, Reverend Wright's comments just days after 9/11 blaming the attacks on U.S. policy.

WRIGHT: Because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yard. America's chickens are coming home to roost. [That’s a very minimal clip.]

COOPER: His conversations regarding 9/11, which you said you were not there for...

OBAMA: That, I was not aware of.

COOPER: Right, but was made aware of, I guess, a year ago, when you were running, did you -- have you talked to him about that?

OBAMA: Well, you know, I told him that I profoundly disagreed with his positions. As I said before, he was on -- at that stage, on the verge of retirement. And you -- you know, you make decisions about these issues. And my belief was that, given that he was about to retire, that for me to make a political statement respecting my church at that time wasn't necessary.

Black Patriotism vs. White Patriotism?

COOPER: Even if the controversy dies down in the coming days, in a general election, if Obama is still in the race, it's likely we will hear more of Reverend Wright's most outrageous sermons. (on camera): In a general election, though, patriotism is going to come up. I mean, in a general election, patriotism is going to be used by whoever it is who you are facing.

OBAMA: And it would have been -- it would have been used -- it would have been used anyway.

COOPER: But they certainly have more fodder now, and they're going to use the Reverend Wright. They're going to use the comments made by your wife about the United States, about you not wearing a flag pin. Do you define patriotism differently than, say, John McCain? Do African-Americans define patriotism differently than white America?

OBAMA: I don't think so. But what I do think is that we have come to use patriotism as a cudgel in politics. And I think that, oftentimes, it's spoken about in ways that don't get to what I think is the core of patriotism, which is, you know, are we caring for each other? Are we upholding the values of our founders? Are we willing to sacrifice on behalf of future generations?

COOPER: Do you think what Reverend Wright said was unpatriotic or un-American?

OBAMA: I absolutely think that some of the language was unpatriotic. And I think that, as I said yesterday, his biggest failure was not to criticize America, because I think there's always been a tradition of patriotism through dissent. I mean, Dr. King criticized America. But I think that his failure was to think that America was static, all right? And, you know, when Dr. King criticized America, it was then with the prospect that we would be true to our best selves. And that, I think, is the essence of my patriotism, the belief that America is constantly changing and constantly improving, and we will never be perfect, but we can -- we can move in the direction of perfecting our union. And that is the reason I'm in public service.

Cooper ended this part of his taped interview by striking his own no-judgment-here tone, that "some" have suggested Obama has spinning, but he won’t acknowledge that obvious point: "Well, there's little doubt that Senator Obama's statements on the Wright affair have evolved since this controversy began. Some have interpreted that as spin. Others say it is simply due to the painful personal nature of this with the Obamas. We can only say that you should judge for yourselves."

Cooper then turned to pundits, and former Clinton flack Dee Dee Myers said patriotism is a trite and silly issue, but Obama has a problem: "I do think that we see the beginning of the pieces of what the Republicans will do, putting together all those elements, Michelle Obama's statements, the fact that he didn't wear a flag pin, the fact that he didn't -- once didn't put his hand over his heart when he was saying the pledge. All those things, on one level, seem sort of trite and almost silly as issues in a presidential election. But, when you put them all together, I think it's a troubling situation for Senator Obama."

Later, Cooper ran a second snippet of interview, and the tone grew even softer, a more typical case of Obama buddy-chat, with those annoying campaign-trail sympathy questions about how does the candidate relax:

COOPER: Do you think it's been too much of a distraction, this whole controversy?

OBAMA: Well, you know, my sense is, is that, sooner or later, it was going to come up. I wish it could have come up in a more calmer way. I think it, nevertheless, serves a purpose. And, hopefully, the American people will benefit from the debate.

COOPER (voice-over): A debate on race is a complicated one for a senator who says he never wanted to make race front and center in his campaign. Now he's working to make sure it doesn't eclipse everything else. The themes are familiar: change, Iraq, the economy. But perhaps the biggest applause he receives is when he mentions his speech on race. Afterwards, we speak with him backstage.

COOPER (on camera): Earlier today, you said you weren't sure, demographically, how your speech yesterday is going to play. What is your gut telling you? Out there, you were talking about it. It got a lot of applause. What's your gut telling you, more than 24 hours now, later?

OBAMA: My gut tells me that the people who were not going to be voting for me are not going to be voting for me after this speech and, even if they think I made some good points, there are other reasons why they're not going to vote for me. They think we should be staying in Iraq, or they think that I haven't been in Washington long enough. I think the people who are supporting me are continuing to support me.

COOPER: At the end of a day like this, what do you do? How do you decompress?

OBAMA: Well, you know, I'm really going to have a relaxing evening, going to a couple of fundraisers. And then I fall asleep. Although, I try to watch AC 360 all the time.

COOPER, sounding both embarrassed and pleased: Please. I don't need your sympathy. I don't want your pandering.

If Obama doesn't use watching Anderson Cooper as a way to "decompress," he could certainly see an Anderson Cooper interview was more of a relaxation exercise than a tense tap-dance.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

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Although, I try to watch AC

Although, I try to watch AC 360 all the time.

Of course he does; it's his daily "stroking."

Obama says of the "race" issue:

hopefully, the American people will benefit from the debate.

Meaning, hopefully white Americans will listen to him and shut up.  Or shut up and listen to him. But don't expect Anderson to explore that any further; he's too busy nodding and admiring.

By all means, Senator, let's have a debate. But as Pat Buchanan says in his column today (an excellent one, IMO), it has to be a two-way conversation this time. Here's a teaser: (emphasis added)

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.
Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.


And Pat's just getting warmed up. Go read the whole thing.

 

 

My personal opinion is

My personal opinion is Obama's lying right through his teeth. He CANNOT have sat and listened to this loony-toon for 20 years and not heard some of this stuff, especially since Wright is very well versed in liberation, that is, hate-your-neighbor- theology. Jesus never preached such a thing. Even if Obama only went to one Sunday service per month for 20 years that's 480 services, and I'd bet that somewhere in that time he's sure to have heard some of this bunk. The fact that he sat and listened for 20 years says a lot about Barack. Personally, I think he's ok with it.

One other thing - I attend a local seminary and the majority of the students are black. They're shaking their heads over this tripe that Wright preaches. I've been to a number of black churches, heard a number of African-American preachers, many I go to school with and have heard, and I've NEVER heard any of them say such hooey from the pulpit as Wright did. Every one I've heard preached the TRUE Gospel of Jesus' saving grace.

There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

CNN on at work....

 and I think they have mentioned nice things about Obama at least 50 times in the last ten minutes.

Here in Norfolk UnRev Wright is going to speak at a church in April. I thought he was retired? It is all over local radio. People calling in and supporting it. But there are some calling in to say this is a disgrace. Pathetic that anyone would defend what he says, unless they believe it.

 

“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter”  - Thomas Jefferson

What "debate"

BO wants America to "benefit" from the "debate". What debate? What Rev.Wrong, Barry, and Michelle think about us "typical white people" is clear in everything they do,say, and write. They don't want to "debate"; they want to "lecture" to me and all other whites whom they see through their own narrow prisim.. How ignorant they seem.. Ironically, they know NOTHING about me or my life. What I find "audacious" is their pathetic attempts to stereotype whites. BO is a "typical" "liberal" -- spewing hypocritical, racist garbage and feeling so good about himself while he does just that which he criticizes in others. Does he ever look in the mirror accept to brush his teeth and clean those ears he's so "sensitive" about?

 P.S. A national conference on race, as suggested by BO and others, is an unimaginative idea. It would be stacked with "liberals" and quickly devlove into a littany of grievances from so-called minorites about all the "isms" in America. The other night I watched a 50's Doo Wop reunion show. Blacks and whites evincing alot of love and respect for one another through the music of old. At this juncture in history, it's time for government (and the MSM) to bud out of people's lives.

NEVER, NEVER trust a "liberal"

They don't want to

They don't want to "debate"; they want to "lecture" to me and all other whites

You've got that right.

CNN is full throttle for

CNN is full throttle for Obama - quoting a certain Senator, it requires the willing suspension of disbelief to think CNN is objective

Subject matter

It looks as if Obama is succeeding in his quest to change the discussion of Rev. Wright's comments from anti-Americanism to yet another one sided discussion of race. Then, when he loses, his supporters will be able to claim it was because everyone who voted for someone other than him did so because they're racists.

Chai

“...Bury me on my face,” said Diogenes; and when he was asked why, he replied, “Because in a little while everything will be turned upside down.”

Do we want a President ...

with such a piss-poor memory and total lack of observational abilities?

I mean...never mind the absence of qualifications for the job. If he could sit through all that racist and anti-American crap that was happening right in front of him, at his own Church, and fail to take note...what else will get by him?

A hell of a lot I suspect.

And does anyone here really believe he didn't notice the hatred being spewed form that pulpit for all those years? Gimme a break.... `

Happy Trails...

President? Maybe of Kenya.

President? Maybe of Kenya. Or and even better spot for him is the UN rep for Kenya. He would fit right in there.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

bass -- Bet you a Kenyan

bass -- Bet you a Kenyan pound to a penny that his white mother would be an election issue over in Kenya.

I don't think they like mixed race candidates. I suspect pure Africans only need apply.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

Come to think of it Jack,

Come to think of it Jack, your right. Obama just aint black enough for Kenyan's. Reckon they would call them racists?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

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