If you have liberal friends who try to rebut you and say that the same networks that had largely ignored Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright also ignored John McCain being embraced by harshly anti-Catholic evangelist John Hagee, you can first say that there’s a huge difference between someone’s selected pastor of two decades and a new endorser. A search through network transcripts shows that ABC has not reported on Hagee, although they broke the Wright flap. But CBS has done two stories and NBC, half a one.
On CBS, Jeff Greenfield put together a story that aired on the February 29 Evening News and the March 1 Saturday Early Show. Here’s the Evening transcript:
KATIE COURIC: Meanwhile, earlier this week, the two clashed over Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan's support for Obama. Obama ultimately rejected it. Tonight, another candidate and a new endorsement controversy. Here's Jeff Greenfield.
JEFF GREENFIELD: Today it was Republican front-runner John McCain’s turn to answer questions about one of his supporters, Reverend John Hagee, a San Antonio pastor with a worldwide broadcast ministry. Hagee has offered some highly provocative views on a variety of subjects, for instance linking Hurricane Katrina to the gay rights movement.
Reverend JOHN HAGEE: (From NPR broadcast) All of the city was punished because of the sin that happened there in that city.
GREENFIELD: He has also denounced the Roman Catholic Church as the great whore of Babylon and as a cult. He blames it for the Holocaust and predicts its imminent demise.
Rev. HAGEE: This is the apostate church. This false religious system is going to be totally devoured by the Antichrist.
GREENFIELD: In a statement, Catholics United said, "We hope Senator McCain will take the principled position of publicly and unequivocally distancing himself from Pastor Hagee's anti-Catholic comments." And from the Catholic League's Bill Donahue:
BILL DONOHUE: John McCain better get the message and cut loose his ties from this man!
GREENFIELD: Today Senator McCain offered some carefully measured words.
JOHN McCAIN: I don't have to agree with everyone who endorses my candidacy. They are supporting my candidacy; I am not endorsing some of their positions.
GREENFIELD: The question, though, is whether Pastor Hagee's view on the Catholic Church constitutes a position or a view that presumptive Republican nominee has to address head on. This dust-up may also make it a lot harder for, Katie, for Republicans to criticize Obama for some of his more controversial supporters.
NBC offered half of a David Gregory story on the March 3 Nightly News:
GREGORY: But McCain is now in the firing line as well. Today he faced questions about the endorsement of Texas televangelist John Hagee. Social conservatives are a key GOP voting block, but some of the televangelist's public remarks have offended Catholics.
McCAIN: It’s pretty obvious that you get a lot of endorsements in a political campaign. That does not mean I embrace the views of the people who endorse me.
GREGORY: Today Hagee denied being anti-Catholic.
No McCain endorsement from feminist author and Hillary Clinton supporter Gloria Steinem, who belittled McCain's ordeal as a prisoner of war during Vietnam during a Clinton campaign event in Texas. She was quoted by New York newspapers saying, "This is supposed to be a qualification to be president?" The Clinton team later disavowed Steinem's remarks.
McCain is now looking for a knockout blow against Mike Huckabee tomorrow, giving him the chance to battle the Democrats full time. David Gregory, NBC News.
McCain satisfied the Catholic League that he had rejected Hagee's whore-of-Babylon wheezing.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.




















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Who you endorse is much more important than who endorses you
March 15, 2008 - 08:57 ET by Dee BunkYou can't control who endorses you but you sure can control who you endorse.Obama endorsed Wright by attending his church for twenty years, being married by him and having his children baptized by him.
It's not like this guy was his accountant or something who was later found to be a crook. This guy is someone Obama followed knowing his style and his politics. His politics were preached in church not in another forum. If this guy had only said his inflammatory stuff in private that would be different also. For Obama to expect people to believe that he never heard any of this stuff is beyond ridiculous. But then again, he's got some of the most naive mind numb supporters ever.
1+1=Me
March 15, 2008 - 08:21 ET by CrashHey Katie, wonder no more, this is why you have the lowest rated news show. You pulled a Dan Rather and jumped the groove.
No Story Here
March 15, 2008 - 08:38 ET by NoMoreClintonsBeing endorsed by somebody is not the same as having them be an official part of your campaign. It's a non-story about Hagee, IMO. At best, it's a stretch. Have the left wing media ever reported that Don King, the boxing promoter, is a huge fan of George Bush and endorsed him in '04? I highly doubt it. They only want dirt on Republicans and to hide, as best they can, any dirt on democrats.
Major difference...
March 15, 2008 - 08:42 ET by Warner Todd HustonAnyone who tries to hang this "anti-catholic" guy around McCain's neck is disingenuous when they point to Obama's Wright problem and say there is bias.
McCain did not call Hagee his "spiritual mentor." Obama DID say that about Wright.
McCain did not have Hagee conduct his marriage service. Obama DID have Wright do so for him.
McCain did not attend Hagee's church for 20 years. Obama DID attend Wright's church for that long.
McCain had never even MET Hagee before this campaign. Obama had been intimate with Wright for decades.
In other words, the Hagee endorsement of McCain is hardly an indication of what McCain thinks. But, with the hate for the US coming from Obama's wife and the sort of racist hatred coming from Wright, we can be SURE that is EXACTLY what Obama thinks.
WTH - good point - Obama's wife and her comments are
March 15, 2008 - 09:21 ET by Dee Bunkconsistent with the hateful philosphy. That and Obama's far left positions on everything else prove he is far from moderate in any way.
You a mind reader now?
March 15, 2008 - 09:27 ET by mvfreemanNot making any apologies for Obama. I had heard he joined that church to get "cred" with the black people there. Show that he was one of them.
So if that is exactly what Obama thinks then surely you can find where he personally has made disparaging remarks about the U.S. or whitey.
And for some reason McCain's staff is leaving it alone.
http://www.politico....
But then they do have all the blogs and talk shows doing it for them.
mvfree- what is with you people that you don't even
March 15, 2008 - 09:42 ET by Dee Bunkcare that he only joined the church to pander? Everything about Obama is fake. He's a polished image of something he isn't. I doubt that he has as strong of feelings against America as this pastor, but to be complacent and go after their support in such a way is just as disgusting as if he actually believes. In either case he is a racist anti-American. If he really cared about moderation and changing the tone, he would have joined a church with that type of philosophy.
Obama is too cool and calculated to make public statements this strong, but he has said that Republicans want to divide by race and religion when it's clear that the ones doing the dividing are on the left, including his very own pastor
McCain staying away from it means nothing other than McCain is an idiot and will hand the Presidency to Obama. I really don't see what your point there is. He has said that he won't attack Obama.
And I suppose you believe
March 15, 2008 - 11:15 ET by WiggyAnd I suppose you believe that McCain is not fake? Obviously you have never lived in Arizona. If you had, you would know that John McCain is just another phony Washington Elite.
"It rubs the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again"
Wiggy - Who said anything about McCain?
March 15, 2008 - 11:31 ET by Dee BunkConservatives speak out against McCain but Liberals make excuses for Obama and cling to his fake image. I don't know anyone who thinks of McCain as some sort of Messiah.
Most of what us conservatives don't like about McCain is that he does compromise and cross the isle. Obama claims to be a moderate but he's as far left as they get. I'll take a phony conservative (who really isn't that phony because he doesn't try to hide his pandering to the left - he's proud of it.) over a completely made up persona based on nothing but words. McCain will go right on somethings and left on others and aggravate both sides. He'll please most moderates.
Obama will go completely left on everything and leave conservatives and moderates out on everything.
All politicians are phony and elitist and conservatives know that. It's the liberals that don't get it. There is a matter of degree though and Obama is as phony and elitist as they come.
Who are "you people"? I
March 15, 2008 - 16:05 ET by mvfreemanWho are "you people"? I said I wasnt an apologist for Obama, I'm just saying that you can't prove guilt by association.
So until you can dig up something that he personally has said you are all speculating about him being a racist anti-american.
mv... I don't know, if it
March 15, 2008 - 16:23 ET by bigtimermv...
I don't know, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck...you know the phrase.
He's just a very careful duck, well groomed to-boot.
sorry
March 15, 2008 - 16:31 ET by mvfreemanBut so far he hasn't done any of those. Like I said, show me where he has publicly espoused the same positions as his pastor.
mv - you sure sound like an opologist for him and your appology
March 15, 2008 - 17:05 ET by Dee Bunkstinks. Your defense is that he was only pandering and I'm saying if he's pandering to these people in this church then he's racist (against them) and anti American because he beliefs don't match his actions. If he's not pandering then he believes in what they teach and he's racist against white people and he's anti-American.
mv, are you intellectually comfortable with your comment here?
March 15, 2008 - 13:49 ET by R D HelmPlease tell us you possess the requisite intelligence to make the distinction between an endorsement from a minister that McCain has never even met and a 20 year Obama family membership in a "church" that Obama has contributed at least $25,000 to.
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You don't have the requisite
March 15, 2008 - 16:39 ET by mvfreemanYou don't have the requisite intelligence to realize I made no comparison between the two.
They are obviously different situations but don't try to pretend that McCain didn't meet with Hagee prior to the endorsement.
Pastor Hagee's email to members of CUFI :
"CHRISTIANS UNITED FOR ISRAEL
Membership Update
January 29, 2007
Newsflash!
This
morning I had an extended breakfast with Senator John McCain of
Arizona. Our topic of discussion was Israel and his candidacy for the
Presidency of the United States of America.
Senator
McCain's comments concerning Israel are on target! He gets it! While
I do not want to put the specifics of our conversation in this update I
am glad to report to our leadership and supporters that John McCain is
solidly pro-Israel.
We discussed his positions on other
matters that I will share with you when I speak with you in person.
This newsflash goes to the ends of the earth and I don't want to read
it in the media tomorrow"
mv, when you can produce evidence that McCain was a member
March 16, 2008 - 01:07 ET by R D Helmof Hagee's church for twenty years, was married by Hagee, had his children Baptized by Hagee, and donated at least $25,000 to Hagee's church, I might begin to take you somewhat seriously here.
Maybe.
Until then, my position remains unchanged.
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There is a more serious
March 16, 2008 - 01:22 ET by NL207There is a more serious problem with John McCain that Hagee, or even Keating 5 or Abramoff. Look closely at McCain. He will be 72 this year. This is a man who spent 5 + years being tortured by the N. Vietnamese. I don't mean this crap these stupid liberals call torture down at Gitmo, I mean REAL torture carried out by people who knew how to hurt you. When you take this into account with the lack of longevity in the man's family, you see a man who will die in office if elected. His grandfather was 61 at death and his father 70. He has already outlived them both. His lackluster showing in the debates was no accident. Old age lies heavily on him.
NL207, forgive me, as I failed to mention something here.
March 16, 2008 - 01:37 ET by R D HelmI am not a McCain supporter by any stretch, and not just for the reasons you mention, valid as they are, but for a myriad of others, as well.
I have just grown tired of the moral reletavist's attemting to equate Hagee's endorsement of McCain with Obama's 20yr membership in "Rev." Wright's "church."
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It's OK
March 16, 2008 - 01:33 ET by mvfreemanBecause I don't take you seriously at all.
I already said they are different situations.
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Maybe your mommy can explain that to you.
If they are such
March 16, 2008 - 01:55 ET by R D HelmIf they are such "different" situations, as you claim them to be, then why do you continue to weave them together at every opportunity?
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You fail at reading comprehension
March 16, 2008 - 02:25 ET by mvfreemanYour strawman argument is pathetic.
I have not made any attempt to equate Wright's remarks with Hagee's.
You are the one who insists on weaving them together.
And you were the one to say they are not remotely similar:
mv, when you can produce evidence that McCain was a member
March 16, 2008 - 02:07 ET by R D Helm
of Hagee's church for twenty years, was married by Hagee, had his
children Baptized by Hagee, and donated at least $25,000 to Hagee's
church,
So which is it? First you argue that it's not at all the same and then you question me when I say it is different.
Or do you just enjoy talking out of both sides of you ass?
And you were the one to
March 16, 2008 - 02:30 ET by R D HelmAnd you were the one to say they are not remotely similar:
Exactly.
After all, you were the one who placed both in the same comment. Not me.
To wit:
You a mind reader now?
March 15, 2008 - 10:27 ET by mvfreeman
Not making any apologies for Obama. I had heard he joined that church
to get "cred" with the black people there. Show that he was one of
them.
So if that is exactly what Obama thinks then surely you can find
where he personally has made disparaging remarks about the U.S. or
whitey.
And for some reason McCain's staff is leaving it alone.
'night 'night.
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You have no wit
March 16, 2008 - 03:21 ET by mvfreemanBecause I wrote the names "Obama" and "McCain" in the same post I am equating their relative situations?
You need some sleep brother.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Walter Crawford Kelly, Jr. (25 August 1913 - 18 October 1973) American cartoonist, usually known simply as Walt Kelly.
"So if that is exactly what
March 16, 2008 - 00:44 ET by ckc1227"So if that is exactly what Obama thinks then surely you can find where
he personally has made disparaging remarks about the U.S. or whitey."
I think his 20 year membership in a racist, hate preaching organization pretty much says it all.
Then again, maybe I'm overeacting. Likewise, I guess if McCain had been a member of the KKK for the past 20 years, I doubt it would mean he had a problem with blacks. Probably would have been doing it for the street cred, lol.
LOL
March 16, 2008 - 03:52 ET by mvfreemanBut the KKK doesn't have token black people in their organization.
At least these folks make an effort to have a least one white person...
http://www.youtube.c...
Good grief, McCain
March 15, 2008 - 08:45 ET by Jack BauerGood grief, McCain denounces conservatives at the drop of a comment.
He attacked the warm-up act to one of his events after he mentioned Barack Hussin Obama's name -- and that was at the event!
And one had even criticized Cunningham's comment at that point.
So I don't think the MSM is going to get anywhere on this one. Though the ever slimey Alan Colmes did try his best last night. Bless him.
"Senator John McCain hailed
March 15, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Wiggy"Senator John McCain hailed as a spiritual adviser an Ohio megachurch
pastor who has called upon Christians to wage a "war" against the
"false religion" of Islam with the aim of destroying it.
In a chapter titled "Islam: The Deception of Allah," Parsley warns
there is a "war between Islam and Christian civilization." He
continues:
Parsley is not shy about his desire to obliterate Islam. In Silent No More,
he notes—approvingly—that Christopher Columbus shared the same goal:
"It was to defeat Islam, among other dreams, that Christopher Columbus
sailed to the New World in 1492…Columbus dreamed of defeating the
armies of Islam with the armies of Europe made mighty by the wealth of
the New World. It was this dream that, in part, began America." He
urges his readers to realize that a confrontation between Christianity
and Islam is unavoidable: "We find now we have no choice. The time has
come." And he has bad news: "We may already be losing the battle. As I
scan the world, I find that Islam is responsible for more pain, more
bloodshed, and more devastation than nearly any other force on earth at
this moment."
Parsley claims that Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" predicated on
"deception." The Muslim prophet Muhammad, he writes, "received
revelations from demons and not from the true God." And he emphasizes
this point: "Allah was a demon spirit." Parsley does not differentiate
between violent Islamic extremists and other followers of the religion:
"It rubs the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again"
"It rubs the lotion on
March 15, 2008 - 11:19 ET by Tinian"It rubs the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again"
Def Leppard sucks!
Gee, McCain's mentor hates
March 15, 2008 - 11:31 ET by JerryGee, McCain's mentor hates America's ENEMIES, and Hussein's mentor hates AMERICA.
If you are looking for a "Nyah, nyah, both sides do it.." moment to justify Obama's poor judgement, I suggest you continue your search.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
The entire islamic religion
March 15, 2008 - 17:20 ET by WiggyThe entire islamic religion is not our enemy. Only the radical islamists are our enemies. To suggest that all of islam needs to be wiped out is just as bad as what Obama's pastor said.
John McCain is bad for the GOP, bad for the country and bad for the world!
"It rubs the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again"
"The entire islamic
March 16, 2008 - 01:00 ET by ckc1227"The entire islamic religion is not our enemy. Only the radical
islamists are our enemies. To suggest that all of islam needs to be
wiped out is just as bad as what Obama's pastor said."
Get back to us when McCain attends the guy's church for 20 years and hires the guy to work on his campaign.
By the way, you might be a bit naive when it comes to Islam. I mean,sure, it's the religion of peace and all, but for some reason, I have my doubts. Can't quite put my finger on why though.
Judging by your post...
March 16, 2008 - 03:37 ET by mvfreemanYou probably have trouble putting your finger on anything.
John McCain is bad for the
March 16, 2008 - 01:10 ET by R D HelmJohn McCain is bad for the GOP, bad for the country and bad for the world!
LOL-Well, I gotta hand it to ya, Wiggy. At least you got one thing right.
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You link to the commie rag
March 15, 2008 - 11:32 ET by Jack BauerYou link to the commie rag Mother Jones? Wow.
Sorry, but if a commie tells me the sun will rise tomorrow I would need ten verifiable sources before I beleived it.
I bet you have NO clue
March 15, 2008 - 17:22 ET by WiggyI bet you have NO clue where that was originally linked, do you? When you find out, why don't you come back and tell us.
You saying that you would need ten verifiable sources before you believe it shows just how much of a closed mind you have.
"It rubs the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again"
Media also biased against conservative Christians
March 15, 2008 - 11:51 ET by nkviking75Keep in mind that the media also has a strong bias against evangelical Christians and frequently misrepresents what they say. Here's John Hagee's response to claims that he's anti-Catholic. (I also posted this link here.)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Again!
March 15, 2008 - 12:37 ET by coffee260Since when have liberals been against Catholic bashing? It's usually them doing it.