Obama's Not Muslim -- But Muslims Love Him Like He Was

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By Tim Graham | February 20, 2008 - 08:47 ET

We've already seen in this election cycle a real sensitivity in the Obama-ogling media to any suggestion that Obama be mischaracterized as a Muslim. But will the media allow the Obama campaign to have it both ways, as Muslims voice hope that his upbringing in Islamic Indonesia will allow him to bring the echoes of detente to the "so-called war on terror"? Agence France Presse reports:

Delegates at a US-Islamic forum voiced support on Monday for U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama, although some warned against expecting any radical policy change irrespective of who captures the White House.

Obama, who is vying to become the first black president of the United States, won overwhelming support in a mock election by more than 200 American and Muslim delegates at the US-Islamic World Forum in the Qatari capital. His Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican candidates won only a handful of votes.

Around 280 public figures and academics from 32 countries, including Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the US ambassador to the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad, attended the fifth edition of the forum due to end in the gas-rich Gulf state later Monday.

Many Muslim delegates said they hoped to see Obama win the Democratic nomination and go on to be elected next November to succeed US President George W. Bush.

"I would like to see Obama become president of America because he champions 'change and hope', which we Muslims need as much as the Americans do," Islamic television preacher Amr Khaled told AFP.

Khaled told the forum that he speaks "on behalf of millions of Muslim youth who seek work, respect and freedom," and urged the next US administration to "solve the political problems in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan, and not to mix between Muslims and extremists."

"The Indonesian people would love to see a (US) president who has studied at an elementary school in Jakarta," Din Syamsuddin, chairman of Muhammadiyah, one of Indonesia's largest Islamic organisations, told AFP in a reference to Obama.

But Dhiya Rashwan, an Egyptian expert on terrorist groups, warned that US policy under the next president would be "a continuation of current policies, though in a less extreme way than the conservative Republican administration".

The Bush administration has "planted landmines everywhere" for its successor, making it impossible for the next president to suddenly reverse course, Rashwan said.

One example is the arms deals concluded by the Bush administration "to counter Iran and terrorism ... The arms industry will not give up these deals under any circumstances," he said.

The Bush administration has also "imposed phobia" on the Americans, something US politicians will find difficult to change, Rashwan added.

The Bush administration is generally unpopular in the Middle East and Islamic world due to the US-led invasion of Iraq, the "war on terror" which is often associated with anti-Islamic sentiment, and Washington's perceived bias for Israel.

A major theme in the 2008 election will be over the perceived need to improve America's image internationally, just as John Kerry insisted in 2004. Is the job of commander-in-chief to keep America safe, or make America popular? They don't have to be mutually exclusive, but what if the Democrats place popularity abroad above security at home?

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

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They have a lot in common,

They have a lot in common, they both blame the USA.

 

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain

America, not so proud

Desperate spin from Obama campaign manager David Axelrod on Michelle trashing America:

“Anyone who heard her remarks…would understand that she was commenting on our politics” — not on America itself. He said that anyone who watched the Obamas over time would not say “These folks are not proud Americans. These folks are not patriotic Americans.”

Spin, spin, spin... When we

Spin, spin, spin... When we sing "America The Beautiful", are we talking about the beautiful American political system?  When we say "God bless America", are we seeking God's blessings upon our political system?  I don't think so.  If she meant it to be about our "politics" she would have said it. 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

The enemy within...

Of course, Muslims love Obama and why not… this is obvious, with his unabashed and obvious kowtowing to the enemies of America and Western-Democracy.  Not unlike his airy-fairy leftist disciples, he, also, loathes everything for which this nation stands.

We are up the creek without the proverbial paddle if this seditious (even more so than Hillary) and alleged messiah, eventually, becomes president. Israel will be subdivided out of existence; America will become a mere remnant of its former self… France-like.

We ain’t seen nothing yet, folks: our nation is teetering on the brink and Barak will give the final push!

The enemy within is more dangerous than the one without.

Isreal

"Isreal will be subdivided...". You've got that right, Placebo. And so much of that should be placed on the American Jews who have bashed their true friend, President Bush, without mercy. Joe Lieberman knows it; that's why he's backing McCain.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

the harmless pill

I am afraid things may go something like that... and if so, how could it be anything else but the judgement of God?

Awwww!

Isn't that special ... The "Muslims" have their token apostate ...

 

When you men get home and face an anti-war protestor, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she’s dating a pussy… ~ Attributed to General Tommy Franks

apostates come in handy!

apostates come in handy!

You can be sure Obama makes

You can be sure Obama makes CAIR and all their ilk very very happy campers.

David Bauder, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Have you seen this story about the employee who mistakenly flashed a picture of Osama bin Laden on MSNBC as Chris Matthews talked about Barack Obama?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=cp_fpfs1pmkq14&show_article=1

This stroy will be droped so fast you'll never know it happened.

Zayne... Maybe that was

Zayne...

Maybe that was Shuster working behind the scenes until he comes back on air...

LOL!

msnbc sure is making a lot of apologies lately, to make it all up to us out here they can rid us of the mindless insanity from the insane one...Olbermann. 

He won't be loved by Muslims for long

American muslims might support Obama for the moment, but they might change their tune if he finally declares that he is christian - not muslim. Google "apostacy" if you are interested in the automatic death sentence Obama will receive in islamic countries practicing Sha-ria law. I wouldn't be surprised if a fatwa is issued against him.

It doesn't matter if he has ever been a practicing muslim or not. According to islamic law - any person born of a muslim father is a muslim. Those born as a muslim that later reject the faith are dealt with much more harshly than either infidels that have never accepted islam or muslim converts that later reject it.

I lived in an islamic country for 5 years. The arab muslims don't consider American muslims to be "real muslims". They consider them to be only a step above we infidels - but just a tiny little step. I could quote some of the things the arabs said to me about the American muslims but it would probably have to be censored out of this comment.

Those mosques funded and staffed by the radical islamic groups like the Shi'ites and the Wahabi-ists will not be preaching support for Obama - they will attack him as a traitor to their faith.

Oh boy

Don't let the Truth Monger see this...

Pastor of Islamic Outreach says Obama Is A Muslim!

I was passed this post from a blog by a friend. It appears to be a legitimate Christian pastor who posted his VERY INTERESTING opinion on Obama. How come no one is interviewing him from Clinton's camp? Surely there would be ample fodder for attack from Hillary if there is merit in this story? What do you all think.. is this story true? If so, why is everyone quiet about it? 

Ishemuslim? wrote:

There are many ways to win a war. As the Greeks taught the world, a Trojan Horse works just fine.

America is being fooled by Barak Hussein Obama!!

"YES, MUSLIMS ARE MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH." "WE HAVE MANY MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH WHO ARE MUSLIMS."

I am Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry. I am invited by churches all over America to speak about ISLAM and its threat to America and the West.

I have had concerns about Senator Obama,s honesty regarding his so called Christian faith.

I called The United Church of Christ in Chicago Illinois, where Senator Obama is a member. If Senator Obama were indeed a Christian, he would be regarded as an "Apostate" which according to Islamic Law, would mean he would be subject to a death warrant imposed upon anyone who leaves Islam, according to the Prophet Mohammed. Many muslims who have left Islam have been murdered on this basis worldwide. Putting Islamic law aside, Obama would still be condemned by Islam. However, in Senator Obama's instance, Muslims in America are joyously happy to think that Obama would be a Muslim President in the white House. Obama is deceiving America. Muslims would not be endorsing a Muslim who left Islam and became a Christian.

It is important to note that I had four witnesses to this telephone conversation with his church. The date, time and length of the entire conversation can be verified by phone records. The following is the conversation I had with the church, regarding his membership there.

"My name is Usama, and I am from Egypt. I am interested in joining the church. I need to ask some questions please." The operator directed me to the membership office. I proceeded to ask questions that only a Muslim would ask. "What is the difference between Baptists and your church?" She responded, " We believe exactly what Baptists believe." My second question was, "How big is your church and what kind of church is it?" She responded, "We are a Black African American Church and we have 6000 members. I asked, "Do I have to attend Sunday school classes or other meetings to be a member?" She answered "No." I asked, "Do I have to be baptized to join the church?" She again answered, "No." I asked, "Do I have to pay a membership Fee to join?" Her answer was No. I then asked her what I needed to do to join. She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, "That sounds easy. One last question please. IF I AM MUSLIM AND I BELIEVE IN PROPHET MOHAMMED, PEACE BE UPON HIM AND I ALSO BELIEVE IN JESUS, PEACE BE UPON HIM, DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY ISLAMIC FAITH TO BE A MEMBER IN YOUR CHURCH?" SHE ANSWERED, "NO. WE HAVE MANY MUSLIM MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH." It is important to note that Muslims would not attend church.

I asked her, "Is that how Senator Barak Hussein Obama became a member?" There was silence. I went on and stated that his father and step father were Muslims, his grandfathers and grandmother are Muslims, his uncles and aunts, nephews and nieces and cousins are Muslims and everyone in his family in Kenya are Muslims. She replied to me, "I am sorry, I cannot answer these questions for you." I of course sensed she was uncomfortable. I ended the conversation by saying to her, "YOUR CHURCH HAS DONE GREAT HARM TO THIS COUNTRY BY COVERING A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING AND THAT WOLF IS SENATOR BORAK HUSSEIN OBAMA." End of phone call.

This is fraud to the people of the United States of America.

Sincerely,

Usama Dakdok

-- February 15, 2008 5:13 PM

http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2008/01/iraqidinardiscu.html#133752

Gil, Instead of copy and

Gil,

Instead of copy and pasting this tripe, you probably should have done the right thing, marked it as spam, and moved on.

This is the biggest pile of garbage I've read in a long time.  Congratulations on believing it was even remotely worth sharing.  We are all dumber now b/c of your post. 

Thank you.

How long before Sharia law

How long before Sharia law starts creeping into the US?  Will it be after this next presidential election? Or the next one? I have no doubt an attempt will be made to institute a form of Sharia law in this country in my lifetime, and I am in my fifties.

We allow multiculturalism to dictate how laws are enacted in this country now, but how much more in the future? Any of you have Muslim female doctors? How would you feel about using them, knowing that they can not bear their arms for washing because it is against Sharia law?  Still feel good about accomondating Muslims?

The truth is, this is not a Muslim country, it was never meant to be a Muslim country. We can not afford to accommodate them without them accepting and adopting OUR rules for life here. Anything else will literally be the death of us, and our nation. As always, the choice is clear. Are we up for the task? We'll see.

Straw man.. personal attack

"We are all dumber now b/c of your post." 

Well, maybe YOU are, Leon.

Brilliant argument though. (NOT)

When you cannot attack the position, go for personal attack and defamation.

Straw man.

An intelligent reply would address ANY of the points in the post.. such as the position of the Islamic faith on those who leave it, Obama having never been declared by them as an "infidel" and why it is that Muslims are joyously embracing the man who is, according to some, a Christian and so to the Islamic religion an "infidel".

Not an issue in sight.. just drivel.

To each his own. I know the folks on this site, they tend to have discernment. They can sort through the chaff. Let's leave it to them to use their judgement on it.