The Clintons: More Pro-Life Than Pro-Lifers?

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Bill Clinton’s yelling at pro-life protesters in Steubenville, Ohio didn’t get processed by the networks as a sign of bad temper, or of sour and hyperbolic attacks on pro-lifers. On Monday’s Good Morning America, reporter Jake Tapper’s quick summary of what was going on with the top presidential candidates only noted he "took on some anti-abortion protesters" and ran this soundbite: "We disagree with you. You want to criminalize women and their doctors and we disagree!"

That is clearly a sentiment that media liberals support, but it’s only a fraction of what he yelled. ABC’s Political Radar blog carried more detail, but in neither report did ABC seem to ponder the the political oddity of Clinton’s angry retort: that he and Hillary were in effect more pro-life than the pro-lifers – not to mention it’s always odd to hear Clinton yelling at others to "Tell the truth! Tell the truth!" Over a cheering liberal crowd, Clinton said:

I reduced abortion. Tell the truth! Tell the truth! If you were really pro-life, you would want to put every doctor and every mother, as an accessory to murder, in prison. And you won't say you wanna do that, because you know that you wouldn't have a lick of political support. Now, you can't name me anybody presently in politics that did more to introduce policies that reduce the number of real abortions, instead of the hot air putting out to tear people up and make votes by dividing America.

Basking in the applause, Clinton concluded:

This is not your rally. I heard you. That's another thing you need is a president, somebody who will stick up for individual rights, and not be pushed around, and [Hillary] won't. The policies she spearheaded saved a heck of a lot more lives than all the TV ads that were bought and all the hot air that was spread. And we ought to talk about that.

Before he grew angry, Clinton more calmly declared the same theme, that Hillary was a doer, while pro-lifers were just haters who divided people with angry rhetoric:

But when Hillary was in the White House, she supervised our efforts to, number one, let young women, who have children out of wedlock, live with their parents and still keep all their welfare benefits, so that the grandparents can take care of the kids while, the women went to school...Number two, [she] led a serious effort to reduce teen pregnancy, and we had the lowest teen pregnancy rate since the statistics had been kept ... And guess what? Without overturning Roe v. Wade, or trying to keep people all torn up and upset or calling them killers, the abortion rate went down almost 20 percent on our watch.

Looking at the usual data source for these statistics – the Guttmacher Institute, an arm of Planned Parenthood – it is true that teen pregnancy declined and went to new lows during the Clinton presidency. But it’s also true that the decline began before he was elected and continued during the George W. Bush years, meaning that it’s true that they had the lowest rate since "the statistics had been kept" (Guttmacher seems to start in 1972, noticeably after the Sexual Revolution began), but it kept on declining under Team Bush. The same general trend is true of the abortion rate: it declined under Clinton, but also under President Bushes, father and son. (Hillary's tried to claim otherwise.)

This takes us to the question of whether Clinton can claim "I reduced abortion." Abortion declined during his presidency, but is the causation direct? Clearly, when voters select a president actual results matter. But Clinton’s presidency, in its rhetoric and its policies and judicial nominations on abortion (all seen as overseen by Mrs. Clinton), was profoundly in favor of abortion and its providers.

Tapper and other reporters also skipped over the idea that Clinton’s outburst at protesters (however rude they were) didn’t match the way Barack Obama handled the same situation. MRC’s Scott Whitlock forwarded to me this from Jonathan Last in The Weekly Standard, praising Obama for engaging pro-lifers in New Hampshire, not taunting them as haters:

A few minutes after Obama took the stage, a group of about a dozen protesters in the balcony interrupted him, chanting, "Abortion is abomination!" This sort of thing happens all the time at political events. Sometimes the intruders are the "community of peacemakers" who call themselves Code Pink, sometimes they're LaRouchies. When anti-abortion folks disrupt an event, the response is usually the same: The pro-abortion audience heckles the banner-wielding protesters; the speaker tosses off a barb or two; security escorts the demonstrators away; and the audience cheers, partly in self-satisfaction, partly in derision at the rubes who think babies are not choices.

But at the Obama event, something extraordinary happened. The protesters chanted "Abortion is abomination!" Obama lost his place in his speech and stared up into the balcony, looking to see who was interrupting him. The crowd began booing lustily, and suddenly Obama turned on them.

"There's no need to boo," he chastised them. After silencing the crowd, Obama turned back to the protesters and said he appreciated their point and would be happy to talk with them afterwards if they'd let him finish his speech. The protesters continued, and the crowd, thinking Obama simply didn't want them to be negative, tried shouting them down, chanting "Obama! Obama!"

At which point Obama turned on them again. "Hold up," he commanded. "This is an example of nobody hearing each other." The Obama partisans desisted once more. The anti-abortion chanters continued, and Obama tried to engage them. "For the folks who are opposed to abortion, I understand your position, but this isn't going to solve anything," he said plaintively. He gave them time to make their point, and eventually they were led away.

The crowd cheered wildly as the demonstrators were taken down the back staircase by the local police, and here Obama cut through the applause to lecture them one final time. "Let me just say this, though," he said. "Those people got organized to do that. And that is part of the American tradition we are proud of. And that's hard, too--standing in the midst of people who don't agree with you and letting your voice be heard." The audience, a bit stunned, didn't quite know what to make of this.

I didn't either. From my point of view, it would be much better if Barack Obama were willing to help protect the lives of the unborn. Still, his treatment of those protesters--and especially his treatment of his own supporters--spoke to his intellectual seriousness and his temperament, both of which seem to be first rate.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Gee...Obama tried out his

Gee...Obama tried out his "new kind of conversation" and the protesters didn't fall in line.

Does he think America's enemies will shut up when he says "This is an example of nobody hearing each other." ?

And oh, yea, Clinton saved a lot of lives, because all those women who got abortions would have died if they didn't get them.

 

I agree with you on Obama's temperament Tim, But that is

what is so dangerous. Sure, you prefer people to treat you with respect but Obama has the worst record on Abortion that a person can have. He even supports killing babies born live in botched abortions. How could he have been listening to any pro-life person ever and think that is okay?

He supported the filibuster of both Roberts and Alito and after the true moderates broke the filibuster he still voted against them. Both were qualified respected Judges and both said Roe V Wade was settled law. He voted against them because they would not enforce the ridiculous "health of the mother" exception.

I'd rather have a Jerk like McCain who says that Alito is too conservative and wears his conservativism on his sleeve but then rallies to get reasonable people (of whom Obama and Clinton did not join) to stop an unprecedented unreasonable filibuster of qualified judges.

McCain not only stopped the filibusters but also voted to confirm both Judges in the end. Yes he was a Jerk about it but Obama's smiles and good temperament didn't change the fact that he was rude, unprofessional, and dead wrong in his actions of filibustering and voting against qualified judges.

scumbag

A man who lacks judgment derides his neighbor, but a man of understanding holds his tongue.  Prov. 11:12  

Yes, Obama's record on abortion is abominable, but so is Hillary's.  McCain's record is light-years ahead of either one of them -- that is the main reason he has my vote.

This is a prime example of why I find myself less loathing of Obama -- he has thus far demonstrated himself to be respectful of those who disagree -- there is virtue in that, whereas I find pitifully little virtue in either Bill or Hillary Rodham Clinton.  Clinton, a coward with the safety of the mob behind him, let his utter contempt for pro-lifers shine through.  Both he, and his "partner," are scumbags, plain and simple.  Pray (and vote) that she doesn't get elected.

I'd rather have Obama as my neighbor but I'd rather have Hillary

as President. It's the difference between Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Johnson. Of course McCain is preferable to both.

The most pleasant president we've had was also one of the worst we ever had. Especially on Foreign policy. Terrorists and communists ruled the day under Carter.

Terrorists,communists,abortion proponents and pedophiles (and other criminals) will rule the day under Obama.

Dee

A fitting analogy, and I don't doubt what you say -- the prospect of either one as president scares me.

The Clintons are Pro Life,

The Clintons are Pro Life, party life that is.  Party on dude; just don't inhale.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

It should also be mentioned that Bush is as kind as Obama

If not more so to hecklers, obnoxious reporters and opponents. The only tough talk he's ever done has been against foreign enemies, yet the media portray him as a bully in the U.S.

He has said over and over again that people have the right to protest and that it's the American way and has NEVER said that people who protest the war are unpatriotic. Yet most people think he has said this because of obnoxious liberals screaming all the time that he did when he didn't. The media have let them get away with it.

Bush is actually a very liberal Republican and the media have let the liberals portray him as an extreme right winger. The media measure Bush by how upset his opponents are with him even when it's completely undeserving and outrageous. In many cases the accusations are complete lies. What Bush actually says and does has no bearing. If liberals are upset he is deemed to have done something wrong.

Dee

Again, I agree -- I've always marveled at how the MSM portray him as some sort of extreme right-winger, when in fact he is conservative-moderate, and he has a great deal of character.  You're right -- I don't know if there are any instances when he disrespected hecklers in such a fashion.  But then again, he ain't a scumbag...

Just the words tell the

Just the words tell the truth, tell the truth uttered from the Impeached ex-President is hilarious.

The rest is self-explanatory when it comes to the record on abortion when it comes to the Clinton era.

Bill Clinton is a liar.

"We disagree with you. You want to criminalize women and their doctors and we disagree!"

Oh, really, Bill?

Under Hillary Care I, had it been implemented, and I stepped outside of her plan and paid my doctor out of my own pocket (imagine that!) this lying low-life's "Justice Department" was going to arrest both me and my doctor, and fine and/or imprison us both.

As for Obama, he is an empty suit. Oh, he is polite, to be sure, perhaps a little too much so, but that just makes him a polite empty suit.

One wishes Obama would help protect the lives of the pre-born!

Especially since 1,400 + babies of his race needlessly die daily, at the hands of abortionists in the U.S..

Strange that he omits the rest of the phrase from the Declaration of Independence. After, "all men are created equal,"  the founders went on to say "and are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

 Hmmmm? 

Leslie Hanks

V.P. Colorado Right to Life 

Lesforlife - thanks

Thanks for your service in defending the dignity of all human beings.

Their actions speak louder than their words

Stephen Breyer. Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

All I need to know is who did he appoint to the Supreme Court? Both support (and actively promote) the anti-democratic, anti-constitutional theory of "substantive due process." This is the deliberate misinterpretation of the due process clauses in the constitution. The misinterpretation allows judges to include anything they want under the vague umbrella of civil rights, without restraint. It was only using this constitutionally ridiculous theory that Roe v. Wade was possible in the first place.

Who's kidding who? For all his rhetoric, Clinton went out of his way to protect Roe v. Wade in the only decisions that matter about abortion -- in his Supreme Court nominations. Until Roe v Wade is overturned, all the words in the world won't matter.

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