Associated Press reporter David Bauder wrote an article on the emergence of "pundit police" in the wake of MSNBC suspending reporter David Shuster for two weeks over his pimped-out-Chelsea outburst. Bauder began by noting how NewsBusters (Mark Finkelstein) was on Shuster's case within ten minutes:
Fewer than a half-million people were watching MSNBC when David Shuster made his comment that Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign had "pimped out" daughter Chelsea by having her make political phone calls.
Among them were monitors at Newsbusters. The Web site posted video of Shuster 10 minutes after the show was over, beginning a reaction that led to his two-week suspension. The pundit police never go off duty.
Say something stupid, offensive or incorrect on television and you're going to hear about it — fast.
Bauder identified two police chiefs in the Media Research Center and Media Matters for America:
Two pundit police chiefs are Media Matters, from the left, and the Media Research Center, from the right. The MRC operates Newsbusters.
Media Matters was founded in 2004 by David Brock, the former conservative who switched allegiances. Its goal is to watch conservative media figures and hang them by their words, publicizing their statements to the wider world and challenging them on facts.
"You certainly know you're having an impact on conservative media when you become part of the conspiracy theories of every right-wing pundit in the country," said spokesman Karl Frisch. "That's sort of a badge of honor."
Fox's Bill O'Reilly is a frequent target; he calls Media Matters "an assassination Web site."
L. Brent Bozell, nephew of conservative icon William F. Buckley, started the Media Research Center in 1987 with the goal of becoming the conservative movement's ombudsman. It tries to sniff out signs of liberal bias and takes the media to task for gaffes, the same standards journalists hold for reporters, said Tim Graham, the center's director of media analysis.
"We have a rather mundane goal here, which is to get eyeballs," Graham said. "We all like making a splash. We all like getting the Drudge link."
Pundits feel the eyeballs.
"In a campaign capacity, I've been known to have foot-in-mouth disease," said Donna Brazile, a manager of Al Gore's 2000 campaign and a CNN commentator. "But as a pundit, I'm much more guarded. If I say something nice about George Bush, I could get kicked around for months."
When I talked briefly to Bauder, I rejected the tag of "pundit police," which at least to me makes media critics sound like bullies looking to ruin journalistic careers. As he does imply, I said much of what MRC and NewsBusters does is perform the same accountability function for the media that they claim to apply to everyone else. We pull out their gaffes, factual mistakes, vicious hit jobs and delirious puff pieces and publicize them. On the other hand, it was nice to be recognized as a positive/negative force in the media. Bauder added that partisanship can hurt our persuasiveness:
Partisanship gives these pundit police their bite and vigor, yet sometimes undermines their arguments. Media Matters called O'Reilly "ignorant" last fall when he commented about noticing little difference between the black-run Sylvia's Restaurant in Harlem and restaurants owned by whites — while giving him little credit for dining there with Al Sharpton.
Similarly, Bozell criticized CBS News for identifying "conservative" Republicans 44 times during Super Tuesday coverage while not labeling any Democrats as liberal. However, he neglected to note the chief reason for the disparity, that doubt among GOP voters about John McCain's conservative credentials was one of the night's biggest issues.
While it's true that our four-paragraph MRC press release with the numbers and Bozell's quotes did not address the McCain-vs-conservatives narrative, NewsBusters certainly did. Brent Baker unveiled the label count this way:
Opposition to John McCain from conservatives is clearly a proper topic of news analysis on an election night, but during its two hours of EST/CST prime time coverage of Super Tuesday, the CBS News team managed to apply the “conservative” label at least 44 times -- in several instances beyond anything about the conservative split with McCain -- yet never once uttered the term “liberal” during a night when two liberals faced off on the Democratic side.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center















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February 18, 2008 - 16:25 ET by saw the light"Among them were monitors at Newsbusters. The Web site posted video of Shuster 10 minutes after the show was over..."
Ten minutes after the show was over? What the heck took Mark so long?
"It tries to sniff out signs of liberal bias... "
That's more like trying to find a piece of hay in a haystack. Doesn't take a world-class sniffer.
So Media Matters is just like NB? Wow. If they are looking for conservative bias, there must be a lot of crickets chirping over there.
The article identifies MRC as backing NewsBusters
February 18, 2008 - 16:26 ET by RJ...but ignores the Hillary Clinton and George Soros connection to Media Matters. Anyone surprised?
RJ,
February 18, 2008 - 18:35 ET by R D HelmI caught that as well. I would not classify that as an insignificant omission on the part of Mr. Bauder.
It's the AP
February 18, 2008 - 19:46 ET by CaringwhiteguyAfter all Bauder does work for the AP.
I kinda liked the "police" analogy...
February 18, 2008 - 16:31 ET by sarcasmoEven if it might sometimes force me to resemble the oft-hated "internal affairs." ;)
JMR
If this is winning, I think I'd rather lose...
?
February 18, 2008 - 16:32 ET by dervishIs this suggesting that NB had something to do with Shuster's suspension, or that Hillary wouldn't have heard about the comment without NB?
It is to laugh.
Well
February 18, 2008 - 16:44 ET by Matthew Sheffieldthanks to Mark Finkelstein, we were the first web site to report that Shuster had said what he did. In that sense, NB gets the credit for it.
AND . .
February 18, 2008 - 17:39 ET by FastEdsee what happends when a reporter REPORTS! No editorilizing, ideas maybe, facts for sure, no bad language, and snappy, well thought replys to the blog entry.
AND, media (doesn't) matters doesn't have the ShrubReport!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Fast,
February 18, 2008 - 22:14 ET by R D HelmAND, media (doesn't) matters doesn't have the ShrubReport!
LOL-And if they did try to take Rog, it would mean war. Of the all-out variety. :-)
Say something stupid,
February 18, 2008 - 16:35 ET by SlicksterSay something stupid, offensive or incorrect on television and you're going to hear about it — fast
But lying is acceptable? This is good, they know they are being watched and held accountable.
Right. So, Bauder is miffed...
February 18, 2008 - 16:53 ET by ThalpyRight. So, Bauder is miffed because they all can't continue their tainted news presentations with impunity.
Pundit Police?
February 18, 2008 - 16:51 ET by BarkerMore like the SWAT Team.
Good job all.
And Media Matters is the
February 18, 2008 - 17:16 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd Media Matters is the hall patrol.
Oh Roger, that would
February 18, 2008 - 17:34 ET by FastEdmean they were in a building - I kinda thought that they were "out" there, but never in a building, an institution maybe, but that's it.
They should be in that big demolib tent, all inlusive of all the loons, baloons and clowns.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Well,
February 18, 2008 - 18:07 ET by BarkerHere's a recent photo of Media Matters staff members.
I would have thought
February 18, 2008 - 18:41 ET by FastEdthey were more like this.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
The article was in my
February 18, 2008 - 16:56 ET by Hero SquadThe article was in my hometown paper today, which I was reading during lunch, eliciting a "Hey, Newsbusters!" from me. Well, in my head, but still, it was an interesting read.
You've got my eyeballs, Tim. :-)
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
CONGRAD'S
February 18, 2008 - 17:07 ET by charlietexasHEY!!! The AP mentioned you!! WOW
You guys are really getting under "their" skin.
Keep up the good work...
Mom
Pundant "police"
February 18, 2008 - 17:28 ET by FastEdDoes this mean, we can strap on a gun, pin on a badge, and become a LAWMAN?!? (a greasman bit)
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Badges, Badges? We don’t
February 18, 2008 - 17:37 ET by USA4freedomBadges, Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Thx Ed! It's probably
February 18, 2008 - 18:08 ET by Roger the ShrubberThx Ed!
It's probably been 15-20 years since i heard "the lawman". he used to do a cool Vietnam skit, too. Sgt Fury?
Is Grease still on the air in DC?
See
February 18, 2008 - 18:33 ET by FastEdhttp://www.greaseman.org/ or try a google search - he's had some probs, more so then Imus, and it seems he's on hiatus, taking some needed tome off.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
"problems" is an
February 18, 2008 - 20:35 ET by Roger the Shrubber"problems" is an understatement? haha
I think he's been fired from a dozen stations in his career hehe
So The Amount Of Viewers Matters?
February 18, 2008 - 17:48 ET by PamPlease help me understand the relevance of that statement!
Pam, in the MSM's convoluted way of thinking....
February 18, 2008 - 18:10 ET by R D Helm...if nobody saw it, then it didn't happen.
That should be the story.
February 19, 2008 - 10:10 ET by Red JeepThat should be the story. Why is a TV channel still on the air when
most of MSNBC programs get less than 500,000 viewers? GE shareholders
should demand the plug be pulled on this money loser.
The sad part is that the
February 18, 2008 - 17:54 ET by rbosqueThe sad part is that the media is supposed to be impartial. If they were, NB probably wouldn't be around.
Honestly, they need to stop being cheerleaders for anti-Americans, terrorists, and communists.
So, when will Mark Finkelstein
February 18, 2008 - 18:13 ET by R D HelmSo, when will Mark Finkelstein be making Keithie's Worst Person's list?
That will be way too cool for words. :-)
Never forget that David
February 18, 2008 - 18:24 ET by TENever forget that David Bauder is the uber blithering idiot from the Associated (with terrorists) Press who wrote a press release for Olbermoronn that falsely alleged that 8 p.m. (EST) is "dominated" by "Bill O'Reilly and Keith Olbermann". "Keith Olbermann" "dominates" at 8 p.m. with Bill O'Reilly? ROTFLMAO! O'Reilly's audience is 3.5 times the audience of Olbermoronn's, and Olbermoronn routinely finishes a humiliating fourth place or third place among the four shows on Fox News (O'Reilly), Headline News (Nancy Grace), CNN (whatever leftist show they air) and MSDNC (Olbermoronn).
Progress! Congrats Newsbusters!
February 18, 2008 - 18:35 ET by Dee BunkI think this is the first time I've ever seen the media put Media Matters and Newsbusters as equally partisan. Usually only Newsbusters is labeled as partisan and Media matters either isn't labeled or sugar coated with some type of label that makes them seem better or more professional.
Mike Savage is right.
February 18, 2008 - 18:43 ET by upcountrywaterliberalism is a mental disorder;
Iranian uranium; Iranian ICBM's; Iranian satellites..
Tell me ohbamah, is non-nuk TO NUK? CHANGE?
Keep the change Bob. h/t Sam Peckinpah
This just goes to show you
February 18, 2008 - 19:01 ET by ConservativeRexThis just goes to show you that we have to keep as many Conservative eyeballs on what is happening as anybody else does, more even. If we are ever going to get out the truth in a world full of BS it has to be done by folks like us. We can't depend on anyone else.
Of course, there's another difference, too
February 18, 2008 - 19:15 ET by timotheAnd that is the difference between who Media Matters is watching compared to Newsbusters.
Media Matters: Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, David Brooks, Fox News, anyone who hates Hillary
Newsbusters: CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, AP, Reuters, MSNBC...you get the picture.
tomothe,
February 18, 2008 - 22:18 ET by R D HelmMedia Matters: Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, David Brooks, Fox News, anyone who hates Hillary.
LOL-Are you sure that isn't CAIR you are referring to? Well, not that there is any real....well, you know, difference or anything.
A question for Tim
February 18, 2008 - 19:48 ET by CaringwhiteguyTim-any conversation with Bauder about NB coverage of the Associated Press?
Lovely article
February 18, 2008 - 22:17 ET by acumenI take great satisfaction in knowing it bothers the demedia to no end they don't have complete control of the media any longer.
Did Newsbusters send out
February 19, 2008 - 01:38 ET by maggieqpublicDid Newsbusters send out press releases announcing Shuster’s pimp comment?
Did Media Matters send out press releases announcing Don Imus’ gaffe?