The ink was barely dry on the Michigan primary results when the Associated Press circulated an "On Deadline" column from political reporter Ron Fournier headlined "Mitt Won, Authenticity Lost." Fournier savaged Mitt Romney for pandering to Michigan voters and demonstrating he is "the most malleable — and least credible — major presidential candidate." Fournier complained that John McCain "deserved a better result," and that "The man who spoke hard truths to Michigan lost."
So much for journalists not taking sides. Here's how the Fournier news analysis began:
WASHINGTON - Mitt Romney's victory in Michigan was a defeat for authenticity in politics.
The former Massachusetts governor pandered to voters, distorted his opponents' record and continued to show why he's the most malleable — and least credible — major presidential candidate.
And it worked.
The man who spoke hard truths to Michigan lost. Of all the reasons John McCain deserved a better result Tuesday night, his gamble on the economy stands out. The Arizona senator had the temerity to tell voters that a candidate who says traditional auto manufacturing jobs "are coming back is either naive or is not talking straight with the people of Michigan and America."
Instead of pandering, McCain said political leaders must "embrace green technologies," adding: "That's the future. That's what we want."
But wait. When "green technologies" -- like, say gasoline with ethanol -- are pitched in a state like Iowa, that's not pandering? Fournier's article seems like drop-dead proof of the Fred Barnes theory that reporters loathe Romney because he switched his "smart" and "moderate" positions for conservative (read: dumb, heartless) positions:
This is a man who campaigned for governor of Democratic stronghold Massachusetts as a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights and gun control — only to switch sides on those and other issues in time for the GOP presidential race. The first thing he did as a presidential contender in January was sign the same no-tax pledge an aide dismissed as "government by gimmickry" during the 2002 campaign.
He was a political independent who voted for Democrat Paul Tsongas in the 1992 Massachusetts presidential primary; now he is a Reagan conservative. He was for embryonic stem cell research; now he favors restrictions on it.
Here's the puzzling part: Romney is a smart man who succeeded in both business and politics, by all accounts a solid family man who won over Democrats and independents in Massachusetts with his breezy charm and political moderation. He tackled one of the nation's most vexing issues — the cost and accessibility of health care — and helped devise a system in Massachusetts that requires both personal responsibility and government empathy.
Rather than running on his record as a can-do pragmatist in an era of government incompetence, Romney listened to advisers who said there was a tactical advantage in turning himself into the field's social conservative.
Fournier concludes that he still thinks at the end of the day, Romney is too phony to win the GOP nomination:
And don't assume McCain is above it all; he shamelessly courted social conservatives last year and has vastly overstated progress in Iraq. In fact, all leaders pander, but Romney is taking the tactic to new heights.
This still looks to be an authenticity election. First, voters are tired of being spun by politicians who aren't getting their jobs done. From the Vietnam War and Watergate to the Iraq war and Katrina, politicians have failed the people they presume to lead, and often lied about it to boot.
Second, the Internet and other technological advances make it nearly impossible to hide a miscue or a shift of position. Can a candidate like Romney win in the YouTube era? Sure. He just did.
But to go all the way, Romney must overcome the original sin of his campaign — his choice to do whatever it takes to be president. The smart money says he can't.
(Hat tip to Kirk.)
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
Editor at Large
Comments Policy
The AP knows all about
January 16, 2008 - 00:45 ET by kgThe AP knows all about being the most malleable — and least credible.
Ever notice the biggest liars call others liars?
That's the typical liberal
January 16, 2008 - 08:06 ET by motherbeltThat's the typical liberal attitude: If your candidate loses, it's because the other guy pandered and the voters are stupid.
No class, all A$$
exactly, motherbelt
January 16, 2008 - 08:16 ET by Scout FinchAnd the louder the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the press, the more I'm certain Mitt's going to the be the GOP candidate.
I'm laughing at all the Monday morning quarterbacking and negative Nancy statements the media is making about Mitt. They so want McCain or Huckabee to be the GOP guy. Ha!
Doesn't it make you wonder
January 16, 2008 - 09:35 ET by BeowulfDoesn't it make you wonder why all the blatantly liberal outlets keep spouting on and on about McCain?
For me, as a quick overview on conservative issues, McCain is against enforcing our immigration laws, he initiated the attack against the 1st Amendment (CRA) and receiving supporting money for the Act from Soros, he is against coerced interrogation of terrorists, he's wishy-washy on the gun issue (against gun control, the 2nd is an individual right, but ban "cheap" guns, supports banning "certain assault" weapons yet voted against the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, he's against frivolous gun lawsuits, relatively moderate on abortion with the exception of voting to allow partial birth abortion.
So, how "conservative" does this make John McCain? I say the balance leans left. Is it any wonder that the Lefties see him as the lesser of conservative evils?
The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers
-
January 16, 2008 - 00:46 ET by dahliatraversGee, we didn't have this written a month or two ago, did we?
By the way, one of the items you touted about him - Mitt's forced health care plan for Massachusetts - is one of the few things we dislike about him. Once again, an msm commentator projects his own preferences onto Republican voters.
Bah, Kirk you beat me to
January 16, 2008 - 00:49 ET by wiwfBah, Kirk you beat me to it!
But yeah, it's not like the Democrats are losing authenticity with their race war between the Clintons and Obamas, or when the Clintons said they'd fix Healthcare but didn't.
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Boy howdy are the liberals ticked McCain and Huckabee lost lol
January 16, 2008 - 00:52 ET by Lame CherryThis has been a fun evening in the Wolverine state in seeing the GOP come out and tell those dolts in Iowa and New Hampshire, "ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE" and actually voted for a Republican instead of McLiberal and Huclinton.
I see McCain is already pouting and angry vowing that he will win South Carolina.
I do so hope the good people of South Carolina vote for Fred Thompson and open this up to a real contest when this breaks out into Reagan Country and the Conservatives who gave the GOP all it's victories the past 50 years have a chance to set things right.
The liberals are so ticked though that they thought they got all the Republicans fooled into voting for their liberal candidates who will be trounced this autumn.
Let the race begin now that normal Americans have finally entered the fray........thank you to the Michigan Republicans for doing what needed to be done.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Here in Michigan,
January 16, 2008 - 08:20 ET by Scout FinchI made sure to get out and vote in the primary. I was so proud of my state and fellow Republicans who put Mitt ahead of McCain and Huckabee! I was so certain that with Hillary as the only Democrat candidate on the ballot, many Dems would play games and cross party lines to vote for McCain. In fact, I'm betting that's why his percentage is as high as it is.
Once we get to states where there's no party line crossing, we'll see how high Mitt's numbers are.
Could have been Hillaryous...
January 16, 2008 - 09:42 ET by HermanoBut it would have been precious if Hillary had lost to undecideds because of the crossing of party lines.
I'm one of those "dolts" from NH
January 16, 2008 - 10:16 ET by Bess2728who voted for Romney. And I'd like to remind you that the Republican race on our fair state was close - McCain only "won" by 5%.
Frankly, it's IMHO that Romney could have overcome that gap if he didn't have "former Massachusetts governor" on his resume.
Due to the large influx of liberal Massachusetts residents moving up to NH, and voting like Massachusetts residents, there's been a large backlash against all things Massachusetts. Romney could have easily lost enough votes on that alone.
Mitt pandered? What?
January 16, 2008 - 01:04 ET by MidAmericaMitt pandered?
What? did he get up there and tell them auto workers that 'I don't feel no waays tarred.... I come to farrr to go baack now'?
Good one! lol
January 16, 2008 - 01:31 ET by jdhawkGood one! lol
Oh, right, when Democrats
January 16, 2008 - 08:11 ET by motherbeltOh, right, when Democrats give the voters what they want, it's because they "listened" and they "feel their pain" and know their needs and desires.
When Republicans give the voters what they want, they're "pandering" and "telling the voters what they want to hear."
Thanks, Ron, for clearing that up for us!
Congratulations to Mitt Romney.
January 16, 2008 - 01:22 ET by R D HelmRomney may not be an all-out conservative, but he is light-years ahead of McShamus and the Huckster.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
Wheels within wheels
January 16, 2008 - 01:31 ET by Rihar"The man who spoke hard truths to Michigan lost."
Surely he didn't mean "The man who spoke hard Truth To Power lost"
Nah... I'm sure it's just me.
When a liberal speaks, the truth is busy elsewhere
Bishop Mitzi wins
January 16, 2008 - 01:43 ET by Cool ArrowThis could be great fun if Great White Bishop Romney goes up against Obama in the General Election.
There are a few questions yet unanswered which could have the Bambi camp feasting on for weeks.
All these "Fiscal Conservatives" (codespeak for Social Liberals) are doing a terrible job of testing their candidate.
We better get on the Fred Bandwagon quick before Bishop FlipFlop leads us all into the wilderness.
I ♣ My Seal
Yeah we have to stay clear of those phony Social Conservatives
January 16, 2008 - 04:52 ET by PopularTechThe Huckster:
Ann Coulter: “Huckabee is the Republican Jimmy Carter” (Video) (4min)
Ann Coulter: "Huckabee Stupid and easily led" (Video) (2min)
Ann Coulter: "Liberals Adore Huckabee" (Video) (3min)
Rush Limbaugh: Huck 'not a conservative' (The Politico)
"Ladies and gentlemen, Gov. Huckabee, mighty fine man and is a great Christian, is not a conservative, he’s just not. If you look at his record as governor, he’s got some conservative tendencies on things but he’s certainly not the most conservative of the candidates running on the Republican side." - Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh: Huckabee Is No Ronald Reagan (Rush Limbaugh)
There’s a Huckabee Born Every Minute (Ann Coulter, Human Events)
"I guess Huckabee is one of those pro-sodomy, pro-gay marriage, pro-evolution evangelical Christians" - Ann Coulter
Christian conservatives: Beware of Huckabee (WorldNetDaily)
Ethics:
NBC Investigates Huckabee's Ethical Shortcomings (Video) (2min)
A Son’s Past Deeds (Dog Torture) Come Back To Bite Huckabee (Newsweek)
Huck's gift-givers ended up in state posts (Politico)
Education:
Huckabee on Education: No to Vouchers, Let Government Fix It (Standard Newswire)
Homeschoolers beware! (WorldNetDaily)
- Huckabee received the endorsement of the New Hampshire NEA
HomeSchoolers Lose Ground with New Law signed by Governor Huckabee (Home School Legal Defense Association)
McAmnesty:
Betrayal, deceit, corruption and John McCain (The U.S. Veteran Dispatch)
"While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 - just a month after dumping his crippled wife and securing a divorce."
Abortion:
John McCain Supports Embryonic Stem Cell Research (Audio)
McCain Softens Abortion Stand (The Washington Post)
"But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations." - John McCain
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Got that right PopTech
January 16, 2008 - 05:22 ET by Cool ArrowBishop Romney and Reverand Huckabee are cut from the same cloth.
Just two evangelicals trying to forcefeed us their morals.
And with McAnus sleeping with Kennedy, that leaves Fred. He'll do just fine.
I ♣ My Seal
Mormons are not Evangelicals
January 16, 2008 - 08:00 ET by PopularTechAnd Romney does not preach while campaigning like Huckabee. Huckabee is the only one preaching while campaigning.
I don't see Romney force feeding anyone any morals. You may not like him but please do not make things up about him.
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Sure they are PopTech
January 16, 2008 - 10:17 ET by Cool ArrowGuess you've never had the pleasure of having a pair of them knock on your door.
And yes, he does. Don't forget your favorite scripture: "And Bishop Mitt pulled his horseless chariot over by the wayside and wept"
Spare me the "no force feeding" nonsense.
I ♣ My Seal
Back at ya PopularTech...
January 16, 2008 - 17:37 ET by vrwc13http://newsbusters.o...
January 16, 2008 - 15:15 ET by jitumalu
He shouldn't have used the term conspiracy obviously, but there is a very strong effort to derail his campaign.
I just wanted to give an account of the major tax increases and also give some context to it
The biggest increase under Mr. Huckabee was mandated by the Arkansas Supreme Court, which in 2002 ruled that the state’s school financing procedure was unconstitutional and ordered a more equitable plan — which led to $400 million in new taxes.
Some other taxes came about directly because of Mr. Huckabee’s efforts. After becoming governor in 1996, he traveled the length of the Arkansas River within the state to win support for an additional one-eighth-cent sales tax to improve the state parks system.
Early in his tenure, he pushed through a three-cent-a-gallon gasoline tax increase and a four-cent increase on diesel fuel, along with a bond issue, to improve a road system that was considered one of the worst in the country.
And when the state lacked enough of the necessary matching money for federal Medicaid payments to its nursing homes, Mr. Huckabee and the legislature enacted a $5.25-a-day “bed tax” on nursing homes, which won the grudging approval of the state’s nursing home industry.
Both Democratic and Republican politicians and political observers say the legislature had little choice but to raise taxes from 2002 to 2004 given the fiscal challenges facing Arkansas.
The biggest tax increases came in 2003 and 2004. A sagging economy had cut into revenues and the state faced a 2002 court order to equalize financing among school districts.
“We had our backs against the wall; we had no choice,” said State Senator Bobby Glover, a Democrat who has been in the legislature off and on since 1973. “Our only other choice was to take more from prisons and heath care and other agencies.”
In the end, the $400 million tax increase package was passed by an overwhelming majority, with Republican legislators taking the lead in pushing for it along with Democrats. The items included a sales tax increase of seven-eighths of a cent, the imposition of sales tax levies on several previously exempt services and some lesser taxes.
“Republicans were fighting for the tax increase,” said State Senator Denny Altes, the Republican minority leader of the State Senate who did not support the package. “There were few votes against it. Some of the most conservative people, both Democrats and Republicans, supported it. It passed by 90 percent.”
In general, Mr. Huckabee supported tax increases when he had a defined goal in mind, whether it was schools, roads or parks.
Overall record
Mike Huckabee returned almost $400 million to Arkansas taxpayers. He believes it is immoral to take more money from taxpayers than is needed to run the government, and if a surplus occurs because of growth in the economy and good fiscal policy, it should be returned to the people.
He was the first Governor of Arkansas to pass a broad-based tax cut in the history of the state.
He also doubled the standard deduction to $2,000 for individuals and to $4,000 for married couples, as well as the child care tax credit and eliminated the marriage penalty.
He eliminated the capital gains tax on the sale of a home.
He eliminated the state income tax for families below the poverty line.
He reduced the capital gains tax for businesses and individuals.
He indexed the income tax to protect people from paying higher taxes because of "bracket creep."
Governor Huckabee left the state with almost a $1 billion surplus- a state record, setting the stage for further tax reductions. The “Huckabee Surplus” enabled his successor to follow Huckabee’s lead to begin the elimination of the state sales tax on food.
He urged that the surplus should go back to the taxpayers in the form of a rebate or tax cut.
He cut welfare rolls by almost 50 percent.
With respect to the tax and spending that he had under his control, spending rose about six-tenths of one percent a year during his ten-and-a-half year tenure.
Governor Huckabee established the Murphy Commission by Executive Order (his first as governor) to streamline government to save taxpayers' dollars and make government more efficient.
Governor Huckabee also led efforts to establish a Taxpayers' Bill of Rights and a Property Taxpayers' Bill of Rights, which established a uniform notice and due process procedure guaranteeing all Arkansans they will be treated fairly in the assessment of property taxes.
Obviously, he's not pure on taxes, but to say that he's a liberal is a wild accusation. I look at his unrelenting support of the fair tax and that tells me that he understands what conservativism is. If you dont know what the fair tax is go to http://www.fairtax.o...
Another point:
Huckabee vs. Romney - Tax Burden as a Percent of Income
The following charts demonstrate the comparison between Huckabee and Romney with respect to tax burden as a percent of total income during their tenures as governor.
Arkanasas' Tax Burden as a Percent of Income
http://www.taxfounda...
Using 1996 and 2007 for Huckabee, we see that the state+local tax burden for Arkansans went from 10.1% of income to 11.3% of income for an increase of 1.2% over 11 years (Governor Huckabee serving for 10 and a half of those), or an average of .11% per year.
Massachusetts' Tax Burden as a Percent of Income
http://www.taxfounda...
Using 2002 and 2006 for Mitt Romney, we see that the state+local tax burden for Massachusettsians (?) went from 9.8% to 10.5% over 4 years for an increase of .7% over 4 years, or an average increase of .175% per year.
Conclusion:
Under Huckabee, increase of .11% per year.
Under Romney, increase of .175% per year.
Huckabee vs. Romney - Tax Burden in Actual Dollars (inflation adjusted to the year 2000)
http://www.pnreap.or... ... ita_Income
(choose Arkansas then Massachusetts on the right, then click on "Generate & Display Output"; when the next screen appears, scroll down to the graph at the bottom: "Arkansas and Massachusetts: Per Capita Income, 1969-2006")
Arkansas' tax burden in actual dollars, inflation adjusted to the year 2000:
1996: $20,232 per capita income * 10.1% state+local tax burden = $2,043.43
2006: $24,804 per capita income * 11.1% state+local tax burden = $2,753.24
Increase over 10 years = $2,753.24 - $2,043.43 = $709.81
Increase per year = $70.98
Massachusetts' tax burden in actual dollars, inflation adjusted to the year 2000:
2002: $37,536 per capita income * 9.8% state+local tax burden = $3,678.53
2006: $40,336 per capita income * 10.5% state+local tax burden = $4,235.28
Increase over 4 years = $4,235.28 - $3,678.53 = $556.75
Increase per year = $139.19
Conclusion:
Under Huckabee, increase of $70.98 per year.
Under Romney, increase of $139.19 per year.
One more thing:
If anyone doubts me, here is the link to lookup the summary of state personal and disposable personal income. Just choose Arkansas, 1996 and 2006 and display. Lines 30 and 50 are undeniable. Huckabee put more money in Arkansans pockets period:
http://www.bea.gov/r... ... =ancillary
Defending Huckabee on taxes is like defending Osama on Terrorism
January 16, 2008 - 23:10 ET by PopularTechOverly wordy posts like this obviously fool those in massive credit
card debit who do not know how to control their own spending but anyone
with an ounce of economic understanding can see through the lies.
1. The Arkansas Supreme Court did not order him to raise taxes.
Implying it is utter propaganda, they ordered him to fund schools
evenly. Anyone with any economic sense and any true conservative would have cut spending elsewhere.
2. You said it not me: "Some other taxes came about directly because of Mr. Huckabee’s efforts"
- He raised the gas tax (this obviously only hurt the rich since no one else drives)
- He enacted a nursing home tax
- In the end he up passing a $400 million tax increase package.
3. The rest is number spun propaganda. It is easy to leave the state
with a large surplus when you raise taxes net over $500 million. You do
understand what the word NET means right?
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK (Video) (1min)
Huckabee is a Net Tax Hiker of over $505 Million Dollars (Video) (1min)
A Taxing Endeavor (National Review Online)
Arkansas Taxes Up $642 Million Under Huckabee, Report Shows (CNSNews)
Huckabee's Fiscal Record (FactCheck.org)
Huckabee: The Biggest Big-Government Conservative (FOXNews)
Mike Huckabee's Arkansas Record (Club for Growth)
Mike Huckabee is a Liberal - Updated Huckabee White Paper (Club for Growth)
- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President
Tax Hike Mike
- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
"Overly wordy posts like this "
January 16, 2008 - 23:13 ET by vrwc13you mean like yours?
v
Getting old
January 16, 2008 - 23:17 ET by PopularTechWhat did you run out of propaganda?
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
These things never happened...
January 16, 2008 - 10:01 ET by PopularTechSupreme Court Upholds Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act (FOXNews)
Eleven States Ban Gay Marriage (FOXNews)
Are you not aware 27 states have constitutional amendments banning gay marriage?
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
This goes beyond media bias
January 16, 2008 - 01:57 ET by not_lima_HThe AP not only shamelessly shows it's bias but actually lectures republicans for their choices. It's no wonder they love McCain, he's a liberal. "McCain said political leaders must 'embrace green technologies". It cost me $70 to fill up my tank Kennedy, I mean Feingold, Gore, or is it McCain. I can't tell.
Mitt is not my choice and is guilty of the L word. But the AP is just crazed that one of their own didn't win Michigan.
Another example of deplorable AP bias
January 16, 2008 - 03:06 ET by Kevin HalpernSadly, this shows once again how biased AP reporters are against conservatives and Republicans. I long for the day the Internet puts the Associated Press out of business.
Health care
January 16, 2008 - 05:35 ET by FranksamHe tackled one of the nation's most vexing issues — the cost and accessibility of health care — and helped devise a system in Massachusetts that requires both personal responsibility and government empathy.
Help me out here. Is 'empathy' the same as 'money'?
Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory. -Franksam
yes, Frank
January 16, 2008 - 10:11 ET by Cool ArrowSame dam*ed thing
I ♣ My Seal
Fournier's column befits an
January 16, 2008 - 07:41 ET by Mark FinkelsteinFournier's column befits an ardent partisan writing at HuffPo or DailyKos. How can we imagine that after letting go with a mean-spirited blast like this, Fournier can take off his columnist's hat and become a fair and objective "reporter" for AP, which theoretically is his main job?
Hahaha...the media still
January 16, 2008 - 07:45 ET by taterHahaha...the media still trying to tell me who to vote for.
Get over yourself, only sheep listen to you guys.
Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns
Time People Took Responsibility
January 16, 2008 - 08:55 ET by PawpawNThat statement he made "This still looks to be an authenticity election. First, voters are tired of being spun by politicians who aren't getting their jobs done. From the Vietnam War and Watergate to the Iraq war and Katrina, politicians have failed the people they presume to lead, and often lied about it to boot.", is so stupid. It's time people take responsibility and help themselves and each other, the way they used to do. Haven't seen other areas that have been flooded, fire damaged, tornado damaged, wind damaged, etc., hollering like the ones in New Orleans that were living on govt money to begin with. The GOVT is not supposed to take care of you, you are to help your brothers and sisters as well as helping yourself!
For decades the liberals
January 16, 2008 - 09:06 ET by c5thenFor decades the liberals have been buying votes with promises and the media has been cheering them on and hyping them and supporting them to the exclusion of everything and anybody else. Now this AP reporter wants to berate and belittle a "Republican" candidate for doing the same thing?
What will happen, when all the voters left are the ones who are witing for the "stuff" that is promised, but the "evil rich" who have to foot the bill have all left and there is no one from whom to steal the money to keep the promises?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Let it not be forgotten that
January 16, 2008 - 09:39 ET by DaBirdLet it not be forgotten that Fournier was the AP reporter who LIED about a crowd booing at a Pres. Bush rally in 2004 when it was said that Bill Clinton was OK after his minor medical condition he had had at the time.
I wonder....
January 16, 2008 - 10:14 ET by JayTeeI wonder how all the People of Color in Mich. feel about the Democratic Party........who stripped Michigan of their Delegates and ONLY put Hillary (White woman) on their Primary Ballot ? ?
talk about Race Politics, this could be sold by the MSM as Bigotry reminiscent of the slave era..........Go get'em Chris M., and ask Oblemanic to join in.
"Barack Obama is a Powerful Speaker—And so is My Bose Bass Amp" Doug Giles
DISENFRANCHISEMENT
January 16, 2008 - 13:20 ET by PawpawNIn Michigan it seems to me that DIMS were totally disenfranchised, but that's just me!!
→ ANTIDISENFRANCHISEMENTARIANISM
January 16, 2008 - 13:28 ET by Cool ArrowI say we start a movement.
I ♣ My Seal
Cool -- excellent. If
January 16, 2008 - 13:38 ET by Jack BauerCool -- excellent.
If this is accepted it would be the longest word in the English language beating the current recognized champ with 28 letters
He laments the defeat of
January 16, 2008 - 10:30 ET by mattmHe laments the defeat of authenticity, yet he is no doubt going to vote for Ms. Sir Edmund Hillary Rodham Foster Luther-King Lincoln Roosevelt "down fo de struggle" Clinton - The first woman to ever matter.
Oh yeah, Ms. Hillary is the only one on the Dem ballot...and they get no delegates....just pencil whip her into the nomination! Talk about authenticity....Gooooood Griieeffff!
I agree with what Romney
January 16, 2008 - 11:34 ET by BruzillaI agree with what Romney said about the jobs coming back. I remember back in the day when Chrysler was on its way out, and in need of federal loan guarantees, and the K Car series brought them back. I remember when Ford was in dire straights, and the introduction of the aero line took them back to number one. When it comes to cars, it's always been about what's the latest and greatest, and the Japanese have been resting on their laurels more and more over the past years, and it'll just take one great design by GM or Ford to take the crown back and revitalize Michigan. Just wait till the new Challenger comes out. :)
As for Romney in general, I agree with the writer. How can anyone think they know where Romney stands on anything? I really liked him until he told Chris Wallace that he was a lifetime member of the NRA, and then admitted he got his lifetime membership right before announcing for President. Anyone who votes for Romney thinking they know where he actually stands on the issues, and what he'll do as President, is at best a fool.
"Anyone who votes for Romney...is at best a fool."
January 16, 2008 - 13:35 ET by vrwc13"As for Romney in general, I agree with the writer. How can anyone think they know where Romney stands on anything? I really liked him until he told Chris Wallace that he was a lifetime member of the NRA, and then admitted he got his lifetime membership right before announcing for President. Anyone who votes for Romney thinking they know where he actually stands on the issues, and what he'll do as President, is at best a fool." Bruzilla
Them's fightin' words around here...be ready for some....
v
"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
No reason to "fight", vrwc
January 16, 2008 - 13:46 ET by RJSince you're a liberal supporting a liberal no one is surprised that you would agree with another liberal.
Now, hang on. Your liberal buddies, leon and balboa are sure to come to your defense again at any moment. :^)
sssshhh RJ... if it gets out
January 16, 2008 - 13:54 ET by vrwc13sssshhh RJ... if it gets out that I am a liberal; my homeschooling, Bible-thumpin, gun-totin, Boy Scout, church-goin family may leave me...
v
Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened. -Winston Churchill.
haha, vrwc
January 16, 2008 - 14:09 ET by RJYou have funny idea of what it takes to be "conservative." I know liberals in ALL of those categories.....and you're just one more.
Nice try RJ...but let's
January 16, 2008 - 14:14 ET by vrwc13Nice try RJ...but let's throw in pro-life and then you tell me how many of the "liberals you know" fit ALL the criteria not just one or more...
v
nice try though
so, vrwc, that makes you a liberal
January 16, 2008 - 14:26 ET by RJwho is pro-life. What's so surprising about that? There are MANY pro-life liberals.
"There are MANY pro-life
January 16, 2008 - 14:33 ET by vrwc13"There are MANY pro-life liberals." AND that homeschool AND own guns AND attend (a Bible believing only) church regularly AND support Boy Scouts AND have large families AND ...whew RJ you make me laugh...
v
lol vrwc
January 16, 2008 - 14:37 ET by RJ....as a matter of fact, I can think of at least one right in my own Boy Scout Troop. Like I said, none of that makes you a conservative any more than Huckabee is a conservative.
Me too RJ. Classic case of
January 16, 2008 - 14:41 ET by Conservative VoiceMe too RJ. Classic case of vr assuming the person can be defined what group they belong to, versus looking at the actual political philosophy the person has.
ooooooooh...I see CV has
January 16, 2008 - 14:44 ET by vrwc13ooooooooh...I see CV has joined RJ...the MM is ganging up on me...
v
You never responded to this
January 16, 2008 - 14:58 ET by Conservative VoiceYou never responded to this comment, which means you must of missed it, but I defined what a conservative is
http://newsbusters.o...
Huck is not a conservative...so before I declare you guilty by association...I will simply say if you don't see Huck as a liberal than you must be a liberal.
Being a boy scout Christian home schooler doesn't make you a conservative, anymore than does joining the armed forces prove you are conservative ( Kerry anyone? ).
My response to your comment
January 16, 2008 - 15:11 ET by vrwc13My response to your comment is:
Great, you do not think Huckabee is a conservative, BUT the people of Iowa, and soon those of SC do.
So, lets see, CV/RJ say Huckabee is no conservative, but the people of Iowa and SC do....hmmm...tough decision, BUT I think I will go with, sorry not CV/RJ.
v
"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
You are not a conservative
January 16, 2008 - 15:52 ET by Conservative VoiceYou are not a conservative based on a poll, but you are a conservative based on your actions and platform. The number one reason why Huck is not a conservative is because he actively engages in class envy politics. He is a populist liberal who happens to be against abortion and gay marriage. Being against abortion and gay marriage is not THE defining item on who is a conservative and who isn't.
And it isn't just me and RJ, its the King of Conservative, Rush Limbaugh.
ooooh the "king"...sorry
January 16, 2008 - 17:45 ET by vrwc13ooooh the "king"...sorry there is only one King worthy of the title...
http://www.heart-cry...
v
Rush Limbaugh is King
January 16, 2008 - 19:50 ET by Conservative Voice"sorry there is only one King worthy of the title."
of the King of Conservatism? who in your mind is the King of Conservatism?
Thanks RJ...
January 16, 2008 - 14:43 ET by vrwc13...from this point on, based on your assessment, I will no longer call myself a "conservative"...
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
hahahaha
v
→ RJ
January 16, 2008 - 14:19 ET by Cool ArrowSo you're a social liberal supporting Bishop Romney. Be proud of it.
I ♣ My Seal
haha CA
January 16, 2008 - 14:32 ET by RJI suppose you think your juvenile "Bishop Romney" bothers me. Sorry. Not even a little. When I see it, it just reinforces the hypocricy of your using it when Huckabee is the one doing the preaching....and the one who would change the Constitution to reflect his religion.
Oh gosh RJ
January 16, 2008 - 14:36 ET by Cool ArrowYou mean it doesn't bother you? I'm crushed.
So why do you bring it up again?
I ♣ My Seal
CA: why, to point out your
January 16, 2008 - 14:40 ET by RJhypocricy, of course. ;^)
→ Another weak try RJ
January 16, 2008 - 14:50 ET by Cool ArrowBut I'm an equal opportunity offender.
Romney's a good candidate, and a good man, and I think he can beat Hillary, but not Obama.
I ♣ My Seal
Glad to hear that, CA
January 16, 2008 - 15:02 ET by RJ...but it doesn't change the fact that Huckabee is the one doing the preaching and who most deserves the religious label. ;^)