Moyers: Liberalism About Friendship and Faith, Not Ideology

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PBS omnipresence Bill Moyers is once again making speeches with tears in his eyes about the wonders of liberalism, which is apparently not an ideology as much as it's about Kumbaya kinship. Moyers touted the socialist vision of Franklin Delano Roosevelt as he won a Freedom of Speech award from the Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute, and his remarks were excerpted by The Nation. He began by mentioning the blue-collar liberalism of his father:

Henry Moyers was an ordinary man who dropped out of the fourth grade because his family needed him to pick cotton to help make ends meet. The Depression knocked him off the farm and flat on his back. When I was born he was making two dollars a day working on the highway to Oklahoma City. He never made over $100 a week in the whole of his working life, and he made that only when he joined the union on the last job he held. He voted for Franklin Roosevelt in four straight elections, and he would have gone on voting for him until kingdom come if both had lived that long. I once asked him why, and he said, "Because the President's my friend."

Now, my father never met FDR. No politician ever paid him much note, but he was sure he had a friend in the White House during the worst years of his life. When by pure chance I wound up working there many years later, and my parents came for a visit, my father wanted to see the Roosevelt Room. I don't know quite how to explain it, except that my father knew who was on his side and who wasn't, and for twelve years he had no doubt where FDR stood. The first time I remember him with tears in his eyes was when Roosevelt died. He had lost his friend.

We can't revive the man and certainly we wouldn't want to revisit the times, but we can rekindle the spirit. There are 37 million people in this country who are poor; there are 57 million who are near poor, making $20,000 to $40,000 a year--one divorce, one pink slip, one illness away from a free fall. That's almost one-third of America still living on the edge. They need a friend in the White House. My father, with his fourth-grade education and two fingers with the missing tips from the mix-up at the cotton gin, got it when Roosevelt spoke. "I can't talk like him," he said, "but I sure do think like him." My father might not have had the words for it, but he said amen when FDR talked about economic royalism. Sitting in front of our console radio, he got it when Roosevelt said that private power no less than public power can bring America to ruin in the absence of democratic controls.

Don't think for a moment he didn't get it when Roosevelt said that a government by money was as much to be feared as a government by mob, or when he said that the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. My father got it when he heard his friend in the White House talk about how "a small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor--other people's lives." My father knew FDR was talking for him when he said life was no longer free, liberty no longer real, men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness--against economic tyranny such as this. And my father listened raptly when his friend the President said, "The American citizen"--my father knew the President was speaking of him--"could appeal only to the organized power of government."

So thank you for reminding us that liberalism is less about ideology and doctrine than about friendship and faith -- the bond between a patrician in the White House and a working man on the Texas-Oklahoma border and their mutual belief in America as a shared project. Thank you for this reminder of how we might yet turn the listing ship of state. My father thanks you, too.

Every time I hear Moyers come to a podium and denounce the great malefactors of wealth, I always feel the itch to raise my hand and ask: Can we see your tax returns and figure out your net worth, you taxpayer-funded and taxpayer-enriched Scold of the Greedy?

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Liberalism is

Liberalism is about....

friendship ??

wait, and ..... faith ?????

The first assertion is simply too funny, the second is mind-numbingly hilarious.

 

"MY end justifies THAT mean." - Shakespeare (not really)

Liberalism is

OOPS.... a double post, sorry :p

 

"MY end justifies THAT mean." - Shakespeare (not really)

edhenry No one minds help

edhenry

No one minds help for the hard working. And in the last 60 years, hundreds of programs are there to help those willing to work. The hard working find these programs and become successful.

The downfall of liberalism is when it went way, and I mean way too far, to support (not help) those not willing to work, unfair advantages to those not disadvantaged, punishment for the achievers, over taxation for an inefficient government. And if conservatives did not rebalance the dialogue (Reagan), the country would have been lost.

Proud to be a small business owner. You know, the group that makes the dialogue of redistribution of wealth by the liberals possible.

 

 

 

Reality Deficit Syndrome

I looked up the word delusional in the dictionary and found Moyers picture next to it with the following meaning:  a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence, especially as a symptom of a psychiatric condition.

This, now, explains Moyers’ past speeches as he is still living in the past and yearning for the days of FDR where “friendship and faith” mark Moyers’ golden age with its “organized power of government”, i.e. Socialism.

Henry Moyers was an

Henry Moyers was an ordinary man who dropped out of the fourth grade because his family needed him to pick cotton to help make ends meet. The Depression knocked him off the farm and flat on his back.

   I in no way criticize moyer's father but the elder moyer's experiences of around a hundred years ago are no longer relevant.  After all what was the elder moyer's main disadvantage?  He only had a fourth grade education.  He didn't need Roosevelt.  He didn't need help from the government. He needed an education.

 

The first time I remember him with tears in his eyes was when Roosevelt died. He had lost his friend.

   Well my father was near the age of Moyer's father.  He went through the depression and WWII.   One of my father's favorite stories was about him and his brother catching rabbits in the snow by hand and selling them for a quarter apiece.  My father was a working man, was never rich, but was fiercely independent.  Anything he needed to know he could self-teach himself.  He didn't want Roosevelt or the government to interfere in his life.  My father taught that a man's life is the result of his own choices. 

What about the time...

...when he had to shoot his "Yaller Dog", cause it got the rabies?

Geez! Bet he built a log cabin with his teeth, dug a well with a borrowed spoon and walked 40 miles to school in the snow, too.

C'mon Bill! Can't you pack any more into this?

 

}}---> "Patches" Moyers

Then one day a strong rain came and washed all the crops away
And at the age of thirteen I thought I had
The weight of the whole world on my shoulders
But you know, mama she knew what I was going through,

Moyers is right.

Moyers is right. Liberalism IS about friendship and faith.

Friendship with sanctimonious elitists who offer empty adoration for the working class but will have nothing to do with it.

Faith that the government will fleece you our of your earnings.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

C-note

"He never made over $100 a week in the whole of his working life, and he made that only when he joined the union on the last job he held."

Since Bill is in his 70's, his dad's working life was decades ago.  I wonder what his $100/week would amount to if adjusted to 2007 dollars.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

$100/week wasn't so bad...

Since Bill is in his 70's, his dad's working life was decades ago. I
wonder what his $100/week would amount to if adjusted to 2007 dollars.

Your suspicion is well-founded.

Bill Moyers was born in 1934. If we assume a rough average of 30 years from one generation to the next, then Henry Moyers would've been born around 1904 or so, and would've reached age 65 around 1969. Using the inflation calculator found here, we find that $100/week in 1969 is the same as $569.31/week in 2007 - or about $29,600/year.

According to the US Census Bureau, that is nearly double the national average for males with less than a ninth grade education.

In other words, by today's standards the elder Moyer did alright for himself.

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The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives believe liberals are wrong, while liberals believe conservatives are evil.

In other words, by today's


In other words, by today's standards the elder Moyer did alright for himself.

Ah, but you forgot that he only earned that much at the end, when he joined a UNION!!

Pork Salad Moyers

daddy was lazy and no count
Claimed he had a bad back
All his brothers were fit for was stealin' watermelons out of my truck patch.

But they did all right 

Nice work. I thought

Nice work.

I thought Moyers was being disingenuous and manipulative... again.

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

Real "friendship"

Well, first of all there's an old saying

Give a man a fish and you've fed him for a day.

Teach a man to fish and you've fed him for a lifetime.

Or something like that.

Line 1 = Liberalism,  Line 2 = Conservativism.

My dad came to this country with nothing and built a successful business.  He's a Conservative and Votes Republican.

Of course Moyers Dad would have voted FDR into office for perpetuity and so would 100's of 1000's of others who learned to live off the fat of other's success.

No disrespect meant to mr Henry Moyers but the guy is NOT a great judge of character as FDR is responsible for increasing those dependent upon the Govt hundred fold.

Finally, the irony here is that Liberals CONSTANTLY use as a put down that Reagan and now Bush are good ole' boys that you would love to hang out with and have a beer with but not be your President.

Time Russert went on and on and on election day 2004 about how EVERYBODY preferred Jimmy Carter's poltics but "liked" Reagan.  How EVERYBODY preferred Dukakis positions on the issues but "felt confortable" with Bush Sr.   EVERYBODY was with Gore, then Kerry on the "Issues"  but again, Bush was "like-able".  

Guess Moyers missed that memo.

True compassion and concern

True compassion and concern for the poor comes from people donating their own money and time in helping them.

It's doesn't come from me putting a gun to other people's heads and forcing them to give their money to programs that have been shown in many ways to breed dependency and victimhood.

Yes, we do indeed have an obligation to help the poor (spare me with the "less fortunate" nonsense). But they too have a reciprocal responsibility to not view the assistance as a right that requires no concomitant obligation.

They are not victims, Mr. Moyers. They are full human beings with free will.

SMG

The man is agony.  Bill

The man is agony.  Bill Moyers bores me to tears (and I’m well into my 50’s).  Imagine what Generation X thinks of him. 

(Honestly, I’ve always had the impression that his writing informs his biography rather than the other way around.)

}}---> maggie

Bill Moyers and Andy Rooney should take their schtick on the road.  Grumpier Older Men

Retreat to imagery

Well, he's just won an award, he's feeling a little reflective and nostalgic, and he waxes emotional. Gaw'head, have some fun.

Just put that hazy sentimentality aside when you come back to work Monday morning. We have a real world to deal with here, pal.

Tim. Every time I hear Moyers speak, I...

Tim. Every time I hear Moyers speak, I... want to remind him of his liberalism when he jotted that note off to J Edgar Hoover with instructions to poke around and see if the FBI could uncover evidence of homosexual activty in the Goldwater camp.

(;~> gary (yea - that was a low, and worthy blow) 

 

$400/mo?

So Bill, back in the what, 1930's your dad -- with no education -- had a construction job paying $400/month? Why are you still complaining? My Dad worked his way through the University of Texas (BA '37) with far less backing from his unemployed father who would have given his eye teeth for a $400/mo job during the depression -- you Moyers are whiners and you prove the point  that Liberalism is a religion.

Liberalism

 While liberalism is considered by many a "mental disease", we should remember that this disease is correctable, but not curable.

Mr. Moyers is living proof that even "liberalism" can be redefined.

 Rovin

 

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That's almost one-third of

That's almost one-third of America still living on the edge.

You would think that by this time, there would be acres of shanty towns spread accross the Great Plains...

 

Amazing that a vicious

Amazing that a vicious hateful bastard like Moyers should croon about friendship and faith. This p.o.s. is a godless moron who would have been shown the door twenty years ago except that he mouthes every liberal anodyne bromide and cloying disinformative half-truth religiously.

That's the only religious thing about him. This vile dwarf pollutes PBS on a frequent basis, just like Daniel Schorr does NPR. Is there any conservative Republican with stones enough to turn this situation around? Do I have to pay to listen to lying morons like Moyers & Lehrer spew garbage & lies?

Thankfully, the viewership of public TV is microscopic given its dull agitpoop.

 

 

 

Great point

Great point, daveinboca. Of all the things to despise about modern "liberals", their hypocrisy tops the list. Modern "liberals" are vicious s.o.b.'s who are out to personnally destroy anyone who dares to disagree with their ignorance and stupidity. Except for many in the MSM, who now wear their hatred on their sleaves, the average "liberal" acts like butter wouldn't melt in his/her mouth in public, while he/she "hates" in private. And now they are reaping what they've sown. Their hatred has brought them nothing but hatred in return. America is a divided nation due to "liberal" hypocrisy, coupled with an ignorant condescenion which makes logical, intelligent people sick to their stomachs. Bill Moyers is a prime example of the modern "liberal".

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

 

Pathetic

The man Moyers describes is a pathetic human being, who relied on others for his sustenance, I would not be proud of that aspect of my father.

Liberal friendship and

Liberal friendship and faith is about a mile wide and an inch deep.

I can't think of much that is more anti-blue collar than nanny state bureaucractic punish those who achieve success tax you 'till you bleed liberalism.

Hard workers who need help should try to find it with their family, friends, community or a private (preferably local) charity. Government can't do it because by it's nature its inherently inefficent when it comes to trying to provide services and also can't be flexible enough to suit individual needs and tastes. 

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