Former NBC anchorman Tom Brokaw took the publicity tour on his book on the 1960's to PBS’s Tavis Smiley show, where he discussed how he was "in a rage" when a friend of his died in Vietnam, although he initially believed in it when John F. Kennedy insisted in a domino theory in southeast Asia, a premise that "quickly came apart." Brokaw agreed with Smiley that there were many parallels between Iraq and Vietnam, and also agreed that Martin Luther King is the most important figure in American history. But he also agreed when Smiley insisted no one has ever been able to detect a bias in his reporting and anchoring: "I've been comforted over the years that people on the far left and people on the far right have said to me, ‘What party are you in, anyway?’ I have never been able to figure it out."
For those who have any doubt that Brokaw fit the mold of the liberal media elite, see MRC’s Media Reality Check on twenty years of Tom Brokaw tilt. Here’s the exchange from PBS:
SMILEY: As I sit and listen to you talk, Tom, now about all of these issues that you've covered in your career and lived through in your life, I always thought that as a newsman, you, Tom Brokaw, kept your feelings, kept your politics out of what you -- I know on paper you have to do that or you don't have a job. [!]
BROKAW: Hard. It's hard.
SMILEY: How do you do that all these years?
BROKAW: It's hard. Well, I believe that fundamentally my reputation as a journalist would depend on my integrity and as a reliable place to go and get as much of the facts as you possibly can. Truth is pretty elusive, as you know. It's got a lot of dimensions to it. So over the years, I always tried to be the one person wherever I was working that would give a fair representation of what was happening, and then I hoped a reasonable and intelligent analysis or insight into why it was happening. And I've been comforted over the years that people on the far left and people on the far right have said to me, "What party are you in, anyway? I have never been able to figure it out." (Laughter) And I'd say, "That's exactly the reaction I want you to have."
This came late in the interview. First, Tavis and Tom discussed the sad state of race relations as he grew up (South Dakota was a "pretty racist state") and the domestic struggle over Vietnam:
Vietnam was the first time that we had a war in this country since the Civil War, which deeply divided the country and more profoundly, obviously. But Vietnam was the first time in which the elites were not required to go. They could get deferments and stay in college. It was also a time when we learned the government wasn't telling us the truth and had made terrible miscalculations about why we were at war.
I believed in the Vietnam War, as a lot of my friends did at the very beginning, because John F. Kennedy said the domino theory is in play. If we don't make a stand in Vietnam, we'll lose all of Southeast Asia. Well, that premise quickly came apart and people went off to Vietnam and served honorably, a lot of them from the working class neighborhoods.
It was the rise, for example, of the integrated military in this country for the first time, but a lot of people who chose not to go could seek sanctuary in college campuses or in alternative service of some kind. That deeply divided America. And at the same time, Lyndon Johnson was determined to have guns and butter, as they described it. He didn't ask anything of those staying at home . No sacrifices were really being made. Fifty-seven thousand people died, including a very good friend of mine.
Here we go again with the "no sacrifices at home" line again – which returns again when the questions go to Iraq. But first, Tavis returns to Brokaw losing a good friend in Vietnam:
SMILEY: Two things you said now I want to go back and get. One, you talked about your friend who died. I saw you talking to Russert - Tim - on "Meet the Press" about this when the book first hit, and if I was watching closely enough, and I tend to try to watch and pay attention, you got emotional, a little choked up talking about your friend, even after all these many years.
BROKAW: Well, and in an unexpected way, because just the week before I had been back in South Dakota shooting the History Channel documentary, and I went out to his gravesite. And I looked down at it and I thought about the life that I've had and the life he didn't get to have, and how cruel and unfair that was in so many ways, and how I kind of missed him, I suppose, looking at that.
And then I remembered, it was a flashback to the day that we buried him, and it was 1968, in the fall. It was a beautiful autumnal day in South Dakota. A Marine squadron flew overhead, the missing man plane took off, and I was in a rage because I was living in California and we were living here on the edge and at the epicenter, really, of the antiwar movement.
But in South Dakota, there was a stoicism about it. They were patriots, and the grief was much more muted. So all that came back to me, and then when Tim raised it, I did get a little emotional. I talked to my friend Gene's wife, who had been my wife's college roommate, and she's remarried and had a wonderful life and her children are doing fine and everything. And he was a singular guy, and it was a loss. There were a lot of losses - 57,000 others, as well.
So what about "drawing parallels" between Iraq and Vietnam? Did Brokaw see any? Then the no-sacrifices line came out again:
I do. I think that we're in a war against an insurgency and in a country where we're not exactly welcome by everyone. The premises of the war and the promises that were made have not been fulfilled. And again, we have people who can choose not to go to war. This is now a voluntary army, and so when I go through Walter Reed on my personal visits, I always look at the hometowns. They're almost always towns you've never heard of before. Small towns in the rural South or in New England or in Indiana or the Great Plains, or in the barrios of East Los Angeles, for that matter. They volunteered to do that. The rest of us, again, are not being asked to make any sacrifices. We're not paying any more taxes or higher prices for things. So I think yeah, there are a lot of echoes for it, and the debate is increasingly bitter.
Finally, the exchange where Martin Luther King eclipses all other historical American figures, from Washington to Lincoln to the present day:
SMILEY: This special you have coming up December 9th on the History Channel, "1968," I don't know that we have ever had a year quite like it. I suspect that's probably why you chose it. I think, and my viewers know, I've said many times I regard, personally, Dr. King as the greatest American we've ever produced. That's my own personal point of view. But you think about '68, you think about King's assassination, to say nothing of Bobby Kennedy. What made that year so uniquely different than any other year in our history?
BROKAW: It was a perfect storm. So many things came into play. It began with Lyndon Johnson being forced from office, the sitting president who won just four years earlier, by a landslide proportion; the Tet offensive with the Viet Cong scoring a big psychological victory. Dr. King, and I quite agree with you, that 500 years from now historians will look back and say, "Was there ever a more important figure in American history than Dr. King, in so many ways?"
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.




















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I'm in awe over Tom Brokaw's
November 16, 2007 - 15:41 ET by Chris NormanI'm in awe over Tom Brokaw's ability to keep a straight face.
Amazing
November 16, 2007 - 16:16 ET by MCPO AirdaleI find it amazing that a man that read so much news on a teleprompter could so utterly fail to understand any of it. Brokaw is absolute proof that, given enough bananas, any monkey can be a news anchor.
Any doubt as to why...
November 16, 2007 - 17:32 ET by rx4music...in England, they call guys like Tom, "newreaders" or "newspresenters"? Not an original or creative thought in his head...
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Without MLK, no USA
November 16, 2007 - 16:53 ET by exLibTom is sooooo Right on brutha.
Without MLK, the USA wouldn't have existed. Forget about the Founding Fathers, since they can't be called "Fathers" anymore. You don't want to offend women, cause they could have founded a country if they were allowed to. (sarc off)
Seriously, I am not knocking MLK's contribution to American History, but that's beyond hyperbole to say that MLK was "THE most important person in American History".
ex-Lib you just committed an
November 16, 2007 - 16:55 ET by motherbeltex-Lib you just committed an unpardonable sin. The PC Police are comin' to get ya, even now.....
I too admire King, but he
November 16, 2007 - 17:00 ET by Clear thinkerI too admire King, but he cannot be the most important person in America. There have been many great and important people in our history and it would be unfair to laude these accolades on any one person. "We", as a people, have been the most important!
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Even Lincoln has to be more important
November 16, 2007 - 17:10 ET by exLibEven Lincoln would have to be more important to African Americans, but I guess that means Smiley would have to say something nice about a Republican. (even though he is a centrist, non-biased, straight-down-the-middle kind of guy).
I know it's cheesy to pick
November 16, 2007 - 17:15 ET by JasonCI know it's cheesy to pick all presidents, but I'm gonna do one per century and say Washington, Jefferson, FDR.
"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte
I don't agree that MLK is
November 16, 2007 - 17:06 ET by balboaI don't agree that MLK is THE most important figure in American history (it's obviously Kermit the Frog), but I took Brokaw's comment as more of a hypothetical, not the bottom line.
It's called pandering Balboa
November 16, 2007 - 17:18 ET by exLibEven though Brokaw isn't a politician, he was pandering.
As many of us know already the history books young children get in school have been purged of names of some of the founders of our country for being slave-holders. So even though they risked like, limb and considerable wealth in starting this country and writing it's Constitution, political correctness dictates that they be banned historyically.
I realize that to someone like Smiley he would view the contributions of African Americans as "most important". But, being the partisan hack that he is, as I mention above, Smiley couldn't give a White Republican like Abe Lincoln credit for anything.
Greatness... in they eye of the beholder?
November 16, 2007 - 17:29 ET by heldmywMLK was not highly regarded by the civil rights movement in general. That is not to say he didn't have support, but he was not 'center-stage'.
This was the era of the Panthers, Malcolm X, and many other civil rights leaders, pounding podiums with anger and venom, raising fists, voicing anger, espousing violence and revolution, making the ground shake. The radicals held center stage.
MLK was considered a lesser player, too polite, middle-of-the-road and non-radical. He was not held in great esteem, but was on the news as a 'voice of reason', and was used to calm white fears.
His assassination made him a martyr and refocused a lot of people who were not ready to 'burn, baby, burn', and, burnished to a high gloss, he became the PC face of civil rights.
It's odd how history changes with the telling. You really had to be there.
I was.
He's probably right that
November 16, 2007 - 16:54 ET by motherbeltHe's probably right that when he does his stories, people don't hear bias. But when evaluating bias, one has to consider not only the stories they do, but also the stories that they don't do. And in the stories that theyd do, one has to consider not only what it said, but what gets left out.
A lot of times the bias is in what's NOT reported, and NOT said.
MLK Jr. the geatest of all
November 16, 2007 - 16:58 ET by easygoerMLK Jr. the geatest of all Americans? Spare me. I can't believe Brokaw, pandering to a semi-literate like Tavis Smiley. Pathetic.
People should know how hard
November 16, 2007 - 17:22 ET by bigtimerPeople should know how hard he campaigned here in Montana along with his McClatchey Newspaper buddies to get Tester elected against Burns...he used the airwaves freely...because he is TOM BROKAW.
Who has always been an obvious leftist...
It makes me sick to hear them lie with a straight face all of the time.
If he doesn't know...
November 16, 2007 - 17:34 ET by szampif he doesn't know about it, it doesn't make it true.
It looks like another case of "Ignorance is blissful"
Brokaw belongs to the Cocktail Party
November 16, 2007 - 18:14 ET by Lame CherryIt was in the 1930's in London there were groups of all knowing, blow hards known as the Cliveden set who wanted to make peace with Hitler and just continue on with life talking about things.
Tom Brokaw is the same ilk who sits around with.........gee his buddy comrade David Letterman........wondering how to promote Democrats and destroy Republicans..........and gee whizzers the cowchip from South Dakota can not figure out which party he belongs to.
Apparently Tommer in the domino theory which became LAW never saw South Vietnam, Laos and the killing fields of Cambodia as anything which matter. Apparently the rotting corpse of 3 million Cambodians unders communists were the only part of the domino theory he could see falling apart were the bodies.
As someone who once took more than one pee in the Coyote state in the Land of Infinite Variety where if you don't like the weather just wait a moment and it will change as you suffer from hurricane winds weekly..........all before it became the "Rushmore state of great faces great places marketing".........I know South Dakota and I find Tom Brokaw as comtemptable as another modern Cliveden of Jimmy Carter.
South Dakotans are a pretty good people in the rural areas, but it blows the mind how like North Dakota they continually churn out Dorgans and Daschles in Soviet style.
The only person worth a hoot who ever made a positive in national pride was Joe Foss and the gorgeous Cheryl Ladd of South Dakota. The rest are Clivedens like McGovern and that troll Dick Kneip who Jimmy Carter rewarded by making him ambassador to Singapore and the Democrat did not ever know what it was on the plane trip over.
It would be nice of liar Brokaw would just shut up and go away spending his millions as he never was a Jack Douglas Mitchell and never will be.
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Just for the record...
November 16, 2007 - 19:05 ET by dervishwasn't it Brokaw that made the famously Freudian slip "We won Florida" remark in an election, referring to a Democrat win?
...the Tet offensive with
November 16, 2007 - 20:40 ET by MidAmerica...the Tet offensive with the Viet Cong scoring a big psychological victory.
and who awarded them a 'psychological victory' when it was a military defeat for the Viet Cong? Oh yeah, it was the news media.
Vietnam was the first time
November 16, 2007 - 21:06 ET by MidAmericaVietnam was the first time that we had a war in this country since the Civil War, which deeply divided the country and more profoundly, obviously.
and during the Civil War it was the democrats Lincoln had to worry about because they were willing to give up and make whatever peace they could get. They saw Lincoln as 'stubborn' and as a tyrant that was killing the nations young in a hopeless war.
...and I was in a rage
November 16, 2007 - 20:58 ET by MidAmerica...and I was in a rage because I was living in California and we were living here on the edge and at the epicenter, really, of the antiwar movement.
Well the rest of the country was not in a rage. The country elected Nixon in 1968 and re-elected him in a lanslide in 1972.
Most of the country despised the lefty enemy appeasing anti-war crowd.
BROKAW: It was a perfect
November 16, 2007 - 21:14 ET by MidAmericaBROKAW: It was a perfect storm. So many things came into play. It began with Lyndon Johnson being forced from office, the sitting president who won just four years earlier, by a landslide proportion;
Johnson won in a landslide because Goldwater was the beginning of the rise of conservatism in the Republican Party and the liberal (mostly Eastern) Republicans didn't want him and the media sucsessfully painted Goldwater as an extremist who would get us all blown up. The media has been playing that card against Republicans ever since.
But Vietnam was the first
November 16, 2007 - 21:29 ET by MidAmericaBut Vietnam was the first time in which the elites were not required to go.
Well that's just flat out wrong. Elites have always gotten out of 'dirty work'.
And besides, the ability to get deferments diminished as the years went by.
and people went off to
November 16, 2007 - 21:44 ET by MidAmericaand people went off to Vietnam and served honorably, a lot of them from the working class neighborhoods.
They're almost always towns you've never heard of before. Small towns in the rural South or in New England or in Indiana or the Great Plains, or in the barrios of East Los Angeles, for that matter.
No elitism there.
Yeah Tom, it's just us rural working-class dead-enders that join the military.
I think he was refering to
November 17, 2007 - 21:14 ET by red_dragon311I think he was refering to the draft, that boys from these places were being drafted instead of rich kids, which comes back to deferments, and kids ( **cough** bill**cough**clinton** cough**) going to Eurpoe to avoid the draft
I think, and my viewers
November 16, 2007 - 22:05 ET by MidAmericaI think, and my viewers know, I've said many times I regard, personally, Dr. King as the greatest American we've ever produced.
In a way he's right, but you have to take his statement literally. Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc. established this great country. This great country then produced a man, MLK, who exemplified the type of citizen the nation's builders were aiming at. However choosing who the greatest American that's been produced is remains a personal chioice.