As NBC’s Today reported from Chicago on Monday, they went a little overboard in playing up Hillary’s Chicago credentials – especially her Chicago Cub fan credentials. It’s a little odd for NBC to tout her as a Cub fan just a few weeks after NBC’s Tim Russert asked her in a September 26 debate who she would root for in a potential Cubs-Yankees World Series and she straddled: "I would probably have to alternate sides." The Russert exchange was omitted from the gooey story oozing that "Not since Abraham Lincoln debated Stephen Douglas have two Illinois homegrowns drawn so much attention."
Matt Lauer welcomed viewers to Chicago and strangely and inaccurately claimed Hillary is "these days" claiming Chicago as her home: "Welcome to a split edition of our show on this Monday morning from New York and Chicago. Of course they call this place the Windy City but it's not because of the weather, it's because some long-winded politicians. And these days two very prominent politicians are calling this place home, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. And that's made for some tough choices among the locals. NBC's Lee Cowan joins us now to find out if either of these people has a home-field advantage. Lee, good morning to you."
MRC’s Geoffrey Dickens did the transcript:
LEE COWAN: Good morning, they sort of both do, actually. Because Senator Obama, obviously he's the hometown senator here, he's lived here for 20 years. Hillary Clinton, however, was actually born here, so she's technically a native. So it's making for one, so far, very friendly political turf war. At local bookstores the battle-lines are drawn. Two hometown heroes, two bestselling books and one big identity crisis.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: That's a very tough call. We're proud of both of 'em.
COWAN: The book shelf poll is shaping up this way.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Both are popular, Obama is selling more.
COWAN: Not since Abraham Lincoln debated Stephen Douglas have two Illinois homegrowns drawn so much attention.
THOMAS SERAFIN, political strategist: It should be Senator Obama's state, however Hillary Clinton has a national appeal that filters down.
COWAN: Last time they were in Chicago for a debate they each raced to plant the hometown flag.
BARACK OBAMA: Home of the NFC champion Chicago Bears.
HILLARY CLINTON: My late father was a fanatic Bears fan.
COWAN: Senator Clinton grew up in the Chicago suburbs, on this corner, one that now actually bears her name. Her elementary school, just down the street, still has her sixth grade picture hanging in the library. (To Ebeling) Have people forgotten that Hillary grew up here too?
BETSY EBELING: I haven't. I mean there is quite a few people here who haven't.
COWAN: Betsy Ebeling was her best friend, still is. Whether on the campaign trail or defending her roots here at home. I know she said that she's not gonna concede any voters, anywhere.
EBELING: No we're not, not going to.
COWAN: Not even, not even in his backyard but it's not really just his backyard.
EBELING: It's our backyard and you know, he's my senator, but she's my friend.
COWAN: So whose backyard is it, really?
VALERIE JARRETT: Oh it's definitely Barack's backyard.
COWAN: Longtime Obama friend, Valerie Jarrett, says not just Chicago but the South side of Chicago. That's where the senator worked as a community organizer, where he later taught law and where his children were born.
JARRETT: He's grounded here. You know he married a South side girl from Chicago. He's very close with her family and his roots are here now. He, he is a Chicagoan.
COWAN: There's little each candidate won't claim about Chicago but they do disagree on one thing, baseball. Senator Clinton is a Cubs fan, Senator Obama roots for the Sox. At the end of the day it really is, sort of an embarrassment of riches for Democrats here because they have two hometown powerbrokers that have a pretty good shot at the White House.
LAUER: Yeah, they have a lot to be proud of. Lee Cowan, joining us here in Chicago. Lee good to see you, thanks very much.
Here’s how Russert addressed the September 26 debate exchange on Hillary the Cubs Fan on the September 30 Meet the Press:
RUSSERT: We talked about baseball. And I found this exchange particularly interesting. Let's watch. (To videotape)
RUSSERT: Senator Clinton, what about a World Series Yankees and Cubs?
SEN. CLINTON: Well, you know, I've worried about that because I think, given the Cubs' record, which of course I, I hope it happens, but it could very well be a sign of the coming apocalypse were that to ever occur. It would be so out of history that you'd have the Cubs vs. the Yankees, then I'd be really in trouble. But I...
RUSSERT: But who would you be for?
CLINTON: Well, I would probably have to alternate sides.(End videotape)
RUSSERT: Well, the Cubs are in the playoffs, David.
GREGORY: Yeah.
RUSSERT: Cubs, Yankees. You going to seat -- sit behind each dugout?
GREGORY: You can't have it all. In the sports world, you can't have it all.
BUCHANAN: But, Tim...
GREGORY: That reeks of calculation, which is a potential downside for her.
BUCHANAN: The term "Nixonian" comes to mind on that response.
RUSSERT: How so?
BUCHANAN: In the good sense of the word.
RUSSERT: How so, Pat?
BUCHANAN: Well, I mean, which--"on the one hand, on the other."
Or as New York Times columnist Clyde Haberman put it,
Can’t you just see Jon Stewart at this point staring in wide-eyed disbelief into the camera? She actually said that? She would flip back and forth? You mean that, Kerry-like, she would have rooted for the Yankees before she rooted against them?
Granted, we’re talking here only about baseball, not a war resolution. But a common knock against Mrs. Clinton is that her favorite sport is not baseball but dodge ball. Her Yankees-Cubs response struck even some of her supporters as symptomatic of someone who tends to be too evasive, too measured, too, if you will, Clintonian. It never helps any public figure to say or do things that reinforce unfavorable perceptions.
That may be why NBC only reinforced the favorable Chicago perceptions on Monday.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center















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Chicago, Little Rock, New York
October 16, 2007 - 08:09 ET by allanfHillary can claim all the home towns she wants. Just remember Al Gore did not win his home state in 2004.
Well if she claims Illinois,
October 16, 2007 - 08:46 ET by motherbeltWell if she claims Illinois, Obama can say, "Yes, but I'm the one who actually lives here. I didn't go to New York to get elected."
Tradition
October 16, 2007 - 10:17 ET by allanfNew York has a tradition of electing Senators who don't actually live in the state. Look at Robert F. Kennedy (Sr.) in 1964.
NY Liberals
October 16, 2007 - 10:22 ET by JimboIt’s because NY has the most ridiculous liberal mindset of the entire country (well next to Pelosi’s stomping grounds I suppose), and NY’s will vote for carpetbaggers like Kennedy and Clinton ever time. They don’t care that they don’t really know anything about the state. They don’t care that they are being used as a stepping stone for the candidate to get to the White House. They don’t care that they will be operating with only one Senator while the other is spending 99% of his/her time on the Presidential campaign trail. Actually, somehow NYer’s fee HONORED that such candidate chose NY for this purpose. It’s an absolutely bizarre phenomenon that defies all logical reason.
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
RFK & HRC --- the Carpetbaggers
October 16, 2007 - 11:35 ET by Galvanic"New York has a tradition of electing Senators who don't actually live in the state. Look at Robert F. Kennedy (Sr.) in 1964."
In the 210+ year history of the state of New York, they've elected carpetbaggers twice: RFK and Hillary Clinton. Whether that constitutes a tradition or merely a history is, I guess, open to interpretation.
But we can say with certainty that RFK and Clinton had somethings in common:
1. Neither really cared about NY itself, because they didn't intend to spend their futures there. They merely used the office as a stepping stone toward a Presidential bid.
2. Neither had any legislative experience, but rode to electoral victory as celebrities bearing the last name of a Presidential family member.
3. Both were Democrats.
History
October 16, 2007 - 13:40 ET by allanfLet's call it a recent tradtion then. Since 1965 the New York Class I seat held by Clinton has been occupied by:
Frankly, if I sat right
October 16, 2007 - 10:35 ET by misterbee241Frankly, if I sat right down and tried I could not care any less than I do right now about which Chicago team these two socialists root for.
I'm more concerned about the damage they have in mind for the country and the Constitution.
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October 16, 2007 - 08:11 ET by dahliatravers"I would probably have to alternate sides."
Wow. The perfect summary of her political record and philosophy.
Hillary flip-flops on sports
October 16, 2007 - 08:16 ET by DanoHillary: I'm a Cubs fan all the way. Oh.........did I say Cubs fan? I meant Yankees fan........no a Cubs fan.........no, an Indians
fan.......no no no, a Red Sox fan.......OH NO.........I mean I voted for the War, then voted against the war,...................................... I mean I love the Cubs! There! Thats how I really Feel.
As she's a huge Yankee fan,
October 16, 2007 - 08:43 ET by nythatesusaAs she's a huge Yankee fan, I would like to know:
-Who she thinks was the better Yankee third baseman, Mike Pagliarulo or Scott Brosius.
- If she was rooting for Don Mattingly or Dave Winfield to win the 1984 batting title.
- Whether she thinks Buck Showalter would have been as successful as Joe Torre if he hadn't been fired in 1995.
My Answers
October 16, 2007 - 11:08 ET by Jimbo- Brosius
- Mattingly
- Are you kidding?? lol
Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"
So, if the Hilldebeest's
October 16, 2007 - 10:22 ET by MikeBSo, if the Hilldebeest's home is Chicago, is she going to resign her Senate seat? I didn't think so.
Cripes, Hillary, pick a favorite team, whether it's the team from where you grew up or the team from where you now live. If you pick the "wrong" team and it ticks someone off bad enough to not vote for you, then they don't need to be voting in the first place.
Of course, with her high negatives even among Democratics, I suppose she doesn't need to alienate anyone else. But, then, I imagine that her refusal to root for one team or the other might also annoy the same type of person as if she picked the "wrong" team.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Right
October 16, 2007 - 11:09 ET by iveseenitallHillary understands the Chicago ghetto. And she's the wife of the first black president. RIIIGHT!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
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October 16, 2007 - 21:33 ET by dahliatraversOo, more than that, Donna Brazile said Hillary could be the first sister to be President.
Dahlia, let me get this
October 16, 2007 - 22:02 ET by MikeBDahlia, let me get this strait: Comrade Bubba was the first "brutha" to be President, and the Hilldebeest could be the first "sister" to be President? If so, that makes the following question even more relevant: if a couple from Arkansas get a divorce, are they still brother and sister?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Again with the reinvention
October 16, 2007 - 11:13 ET by KillgraveSo we are to forget her long history with the Hot Springs, Ark crew? She's now a native fresh out of Chicago?
This is turning into the "New Coke" of political hackery.
Anyone, other than Hillary,
October 16, 2007 - 13:11 ET by Chris NormanAnyone, other than Hillary, with so many claimed backgrounds and phony stories, would be called a grifter.
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October 16, 2007 - 21:34 ET by dahliatraverslol
Stealing Obama's thunder
October 16, 2007 - 21:48 ET by nkviking75It's all pretty transparent. Illinois has a lot of Democrat delegates, and she's trying to undermine Obama's appeal as the favorite son. If Rudy wins the Republican nomination, expect her to be an ardent New Yorker again.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.