Hillary Delights 'View' Crew With Pledge to End 'Cowboy Diplomacy'

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Hillary Clinton arrived for another soft-soap interview with the women of The View on ABC Monday, delighting the cast with a pledge that if she's elected, "the era of cowboy diplomacy is over." She told Elisabeth Hasselbeck her policy on interrogations is "We do not condone or conduct torture....Because that gives us a lot of moral authority, which we have lost, unfortunately." The cast was also touched by her standard campaign boilerplate that women in their 90s want to see her be president, and parents point to her and tell their daughters that they can be anything.

When Hillary declared an end to "cowboy diplomacy," an old liberal phrase often deployed against Ronald Reagan, the View crew was delighted, as if they'd never heard that before:

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: So what are the first three things for you that you see most important?

HILLARY CLINTON: First is that I will begin to withdraw our troops from Iraq as carefully and responsibly as I can. And, you know, do it in as expeditious a manner but it has to be done carefully. I will also ask Americans of both parties, distinguished Americans, to travel around the world with a very clear message -- the era of cowboy diplomacy is over. We're going to start working with people, listening to people again. And then I have a whole --

JOY BEHAR: Cowboy diplomacy is funny.

CLINTON: Well, it's true.

BEHAR: It's an oxymoron, actually.

CLINTON: But it's what we've lived with.

WALTERS: Bill Clinton could be one of those people. [To travel the world repairing America's image.]

CLINTON: Absolutely, so could a lot of people, I want Republicans and Democrats.

When Elisabeth Hasselbeck suggested she would like to ask Sen. Clinton about national security as they went into a commercial, it sounded like Barbara Walters might not want her to get a question in: 

HASSELBECK: When we come back, I have a question just on safety, because I think a lot of Americans.

WALTERS: We have so many questions. But we also want to ask what everybody 's talking about now, and which is a little confusing, is Iran. So, you know, we'll get to all of that. We'll come back with Senator Hillary Clinton.

But Hasselbeck did get her question in, although it was clumsily put. Did Hillary believe in using "extreme forces" to get information? It would have been nice to try to pin down Mrs. Clinton on what is torture? Sleep deprivation? Cold temperatures? Loud rock music? (The office joke was "How about lip-biting?")

HASSELBECK: We mentioned security on "The View." You know, I think it's on a lot of people's minds in terms of national security and in terms of how, if you were the president, how you'd handle, you know if there was an imminent threat. Would you use extreme forces to get information? What's your theory now? Because I know, obviously, I know times change and opinions change.

CLINTON: You know, Elisabeth, I think it is really important for the United States to make it absolutely clear that as a matter of policy we do not condone or conduct torture. I think that has to be our value. Because that gives us a lot of moral authority, which we have lost, unfortunately. We also have to be smarter about how we interrogate. There's a lot of evidence that you don't get accurate, good information from extreme measures. In fact, you get it by developing some kind of system that can really, you know, get people to feel that they need to give you that information. That's what we did during World War II, that's what we have done in previous times. So, I think for both the moral and values reason and because of the lack of effectiveness that a lot of these so-called techniques have, we need to be very clear that we do not conduct torture.

The interview began as you might expect, with sympathetic questions asking Hillary about how much tougher it was to run for president as a female, and despairing over how people make more of an issue about your appearance. She was also asked about whether she was polarizing:

WALTERS: You know, we were talking about some of the things that are different when you're a woman. And, even though you are running with men and, you know, if you win, you'll be the first woman president, there must be differences in the way you run as a woman and the way the men do.

CLINTON: I think there are.

WALTERS: What are they?

CLINTON: Well, look how much longer it takes me to get ready.

WALTERS: I'll give you that.

BEHAR: But it's worth it, look how good you look.

CLINTON: Well, thank you Joy, but I really, takes a --

WALTERS: Remember how they always asked about your hair?

CLINTON: Oh yes.

WALTERS: They still are.

CLINTON: Oh yes. The hair, the clothes, the laugh.

WALTERS: Do you mind that?

CLINTON: No. I really don't.

WALTERS: This is when you should laugh.

CLINTON: My attitude is that you just get up every day and do the best you can. And some days are better than other days.

WALTERS: Are there other differences?

CLINTON: Well, I do think that there still is, you know, probably a tougher standard for women, especially running for president. I mean, we've all been through it in some way or another where you go and try to break a barrier, you try to do the best you can, and people are saying, well, I don't like her clothes or I don't like her hair or whatever. But I think that we're getting beyond that. And one of the exciting parts of my campaign is how many people are so personally invested in this. You know, everywhere I go around the country, there are two groups of people that I'm particularly touched by. All these women in their 90's come to my events and they come and they wait, sometimes they're in walkers, sometimes they're in wheelchairs, like a daughter or granddaughter will bring them. And then when I'm going around shaking hands, they'll say something like I'm 95 years old and I was born before women vote and I want to live long enough to see a woman in the White House.

BEHAR: Oh that's nice.

CLINTON: It is, it's very touching. And then the other group are parents who bring their children, particularly their daughters. And so after I make a speech and I go out and shake hands with everybody, I'll hear a father or mother lean over and say to a little girl, see honey, you can be anything you want to be. And I get that sort of welled-up feeling because my parents told me that. Not that it was really true back then. But you know, we've broken a lot of barriers to get to where we all are today.

BEHAR: When you're on the road like that, What about the white males? How do they respond to you?

CLINTON: You know it's been wonderful. I have lots of people who come and they are very interested, they ask tough questions, but, you know, they come in greater and greater numbers now. And I've been very excited about that."

WALTERS: What about the criticism which we hear all the time, and we were talking about Michelle Obama, and we have to ask you if it's tougher to answer back the wife. But you're polarizing, you're polarizing, you know, yeah she'll get the nomination, but she's not going to win the election, she's polarizing.

CLINTON: Well, you know my attitude is that's what a campaign is for, to get people a chance to see you for who you are and make their own judgments. You're never going to have a hundred percent of the people to support you.

WALTERS: Do you think you're polarizing?

CLINTON: I think that I have strong feelings about what should be done in the country and I think a lot of people disagree with that and I respect that. That's the way America is. You can be for or against anybody based on anything. But I just want people to make an accurate decision about who I am and what I stand for and what I would do as president. And that's happening. So, I'm very happy about that.

Some of the questions, softly put, were the kind of questions Hillary will face everywhere. Sherri Shepherd asked what she was going to do with her husband, which drew the "roving global ambassador of good will" answer. Whoopi Goldberg asked her whether countries that don't respect women will agree to meet with her, which Hillary answered by saying it's never been a problem:

CLINTON: I have been to 82 countries and I have met with the leaders of a lot of countries that are not exactly in the forefront of giving women their rights, and I've never found that to be a problem. I actually think, assuming I'm so fortunate as to be elected, that sends a very strong message to those countries and to those leaders. You cannot expect to have a successful society if you keep half your population in servitude and deny them their rights and keep them out of education and health care and important positions and don't give them the respect, even in the home, that they deserve for the hard work that they do. So I actually believe that it may take a little adjustment, but it's time the world adjusted. Women deserve to be given rights and responsibilities.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Rush Limbaugh.com has a

Rush Limbaugh.com has a great Photoshopped picture of Hillary on "The View", holding her "lockbox" on her lap.

As for her comment that male leaders don't seem to have a problem with her, and her contention that

I actually think, assuming I'm so fortunate as to be elected, that
sends a very strong message to those countries and to those leaders.
You cannot expect to have a successful society if you keep half your
population in servitude and deny them their rights and keep them out of
education and health care and important positions....
(emphasis added)

Does she really think she's going to make a difference in how Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries treat their women? Yeah, right. They're going to look at her and say, yeah, that's fine for the Great Satan, but it ain't happening here.


Good Diplomacy

I don't think I'm unfair to state Hillary's idea of good diplomacy is

  1. Condemn a massacre of Armenians nearly 100 years later over strenuous objections of Turkey.  If that cuts off supply lines to Iraq, so be it.
  2. Talk to all of our enemies, but don't talk to Fox News.
  3. Criticize our allies (see one above).

I can't wait.

Treason

The only reason to condemn the Armenians in spite of the objections from Turkey is to provoke a reaction that will further undermine the war effort. The average American won’t have the attention span or the desire to understand this and just assume that any setbacks are President Bush’s fault. It’s despicable, and if you think about it, I think this boarders on treason by purposely aiding the enemy.

IMO of course.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"

Hillary says she condemns "cowboy diplomacy"

...even as the treacherous Democrats use the Armenian resolution to ride roughshod over our troops and our delicate relationship with Turkey. 

WHO is using "cowboy diplomacy", Hillary? (Not that I'd ever expect an honest answer from you)

"Treason" is right, Jimbo.

You know.

She's too busy saying 'you know' to answer you.  That's an almost involuntary addition to speech to give your brain time to think of the next sentence.  I think so, anyway.  She sounds so lame when she talks with every other blah-blah being 'you know'.

You know, Hill, you should work on that, you know.

Hillary is a strong message that women are respected in America

But only women with a D in front of there name

http://www.evangelic...

No respect

Yeah, I haven't heard her offer any praise for Rice yet.

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Don't be fooled

Fool us once (Bill Clinton), shame on you.

Fool us twice (Hillary), shame on us.

Don't vote for this witch.

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I get ill....

TnT, I get ill when I think of what this country will be like 6 years from now, if we end up with Mme Clinton as president and a Democrat-controlled congress.

We will be subject to the United Nations. Illegal immigrants will be welcomed and given in-state tuition at our colleges and universities, welfare benefits and God knows what else, at the expense of the American taxpayer. And speaking of taxpayers, I shudder to think of what will happen to our taxes. "Free" medical care for everyone, massive income redistribution ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"), baby bonds, government funded IRA's "womb to the tomb" (OK, outside the womb) government caretaking.

This country will truly be on the fast track to Socialism.

It makes me want to weep.

If there would be a silver

If there would be a silver lining to that dark cloud, its that 6 years of that could be enough to ensure a Republican stronghold for a generation after that.

Still, I'm hoping we don't have to wait six years for that to happen.

*****

"I heart famous people."

I am right there with

I am right there with you.  I think people sometimes think I'm obsessive about this issue because I always talk about how America will become a socialist country if she gets in. They may think I'm nuts, or just OC, but if I can keep ONE person from voting for her, then it's worth it.

 

You know?

This should be fun

One donk condeming another donk. But then again, Pelosi has it coming, her cowboy diplomacy is getting out of hand -- First Syria and now Turkey, how many mulligan's do you get?

Low expectations

Don't expect Hillary to be consistant in anything she does or says. You're right, Pelosi is a loose cannon. But would the View gals recognize this, or do they really believe all Americans are so stupid that we can't put 2 + 2 together.

And I would have liked to see Hassleback ask your question.

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Don't expect Hillary to be


Don't expect Hillary to be consistant in anything she does or says.
ThisnThat

That is so true...she has already had at least three positions on the troops out of Iraq question, for just one example. And the MSM lets her get away with it.

As for the women on "The View"...do you really expect them to do the heavy lifting that the MSM won't do?  (and yes, that's a sarcastic, rhetorical question!)

But I just want people to

But I just want people to make an accurate decision about who I am and
what I stand for...

That's right. You are the perfect Manchurian Candidate.

...and what I would do as president. And that's
happening. So, I'm very happy about that.

What? You're happy to establish the 4th Reich?

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Okay..

"CLINTON: Well, you know my attitude is that's what a campaign is for, to get people a chance to see you for who you are and make their own judgments."

So we didn't experience 8 years of this broad with her political tinkering and attempted social engineering? That wasn't enough for us to "get to know" her?

I love this tack... "you don't know me". She's basically admitting that she has a bad rep (uuuuuhhhh.. maybe she EARNED IT?!).

And of course Old Media is 110% on-board in assisting in the re-packaging and the makeover. The magnitude of collusion here is staggering. It's quite possible they will be able to pull this off.

Seriously, this makes me sick.

NO WAY

In my opinion, no way. They won’t be able to pull it off, which in and of itself will drive the liberals and MSM to the brink of suicide, which I literally can’t wait to see.

That being said, the Republican party has its own problems in not being able to produce a true conservative that can put the nomination away.

THAT having been said, keep in mind that all the skeletons Hillary has are not being vetted right now because we are in the primary season and the MSM is doing what it can to avoid them. They won’t be so lucky during the general election cycle when the Republican candidate (whomever he is) picks issues off a list as long as his arm of the nonsense the Clinton machine pulled during their 8 year spring break in the White House. They will try to spin it all and discount it, but there is no way it will work. More than 50% of the public wont be fooled again.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"

There's a lot of evidence

There's a lot of evidence that you don't get accurate, good information
from extreme measures. In fact, you get it by developing some kind of
system that can really, you know, get people to feel that they need to
give you that information. That's what we did during World War II,
that's what we have done in previous times.

Yes, I remember some of the methods used during WWII to get info from prisoners such as lining a group of them up, asking a question, when the first fellow doesn't answer shoot him in the head and move on to the next one. Those methods, though distasteful, proved effective in the Pacific theater and would most likely prove effective in Iraq, but politicians and lawyers (like Clinton) have tied our hands and won't allow anything even close to this.

She will destroy this country just to have power.

D

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Hillary, et al, a threat to troop's and nation's wellbeing

 

Well said, unfortunately, today, our troops need a lawyer tagging along to make certain they don’t do anything politically or militarily-incorrect. Politicos, such as Hillary, are as much a danger to a soldier’s survival as the so-called insurgents: not to forget the flaccid leftist media.

Our troops, who lay their lives on the line, should not be subjected to this meddling from the bleachers, political or otherwise. As in WWII, the civilian media should be spoon-fed and the politicians should keep their grubby-a** fingers out of the action.  

We have witnessed the leftist media’s undermining of our military endeavours since Vietnam and, inanely, continue to let them do so.

Unfortunately, Hillary’s fetid ilk have always been and will continue meddling and risking the welfare of the men and women in the military. God help us if she or any other Democrat becomes commander-in-chief.

The rhetoric of assumption

Hillary is definitely a lawyer. Notice how she starts with the assumption that our intelligence techniques are torture, and then dwells on the idea that we have to oppose torture. She presents her policy as if she's saying something of substance. But the question is whether these techniques really are torture in the first place. That is what she doesn't address. She deflects the complicated ethical question and dwells on the emotionally easy crowd-pleaser.

It's the oldest lawyer trick in the books. Suppose we have a defendant accused of rape. The prosecutor then devotes all of her case to arguing about how horrible rape is. By the end, the jury is so eager to oppose rape that that they use their verdict to send a message ... but the question for the jury isn't whether rape is bad, it's whether this defendant committed the act.

Torture

Is torture bad? At face value, sure. It is inhumane, etc…etc…etc…

But know what? So is war itself. As far as I am concerned, the Commander in Chief is obligated… yes obligated… to use everything in his power to bring the war to as swift and successful end as possible in an effort to save as many military lives as possible. The decision by Truman to use the atomic bomb is just one such example.

So if we play loud rock music, prevent some terrorists from sleeping, or smack them around a bit, I (speaking only for myself here) don’t care one bit. I especially don’t care one bit when the same enemy’s tactic is to decapitate it’s prisoners… not to obtain information, but to make a political statement.

I’m sure the ACLU and every other liberal in the country would strongly disagree with this statement, but that fact of the matter is I could not care less.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"

Good point, Jimbo, what if

Good point, Jimbo, what if we had strong evidence that an enemy combatant knew some information which could shorten a war altogether?  Is our policy that we would not perform hard interrogation techniques as a means to potentially end a war and save lives? 

I find it interesting that liberals, who apply the "end justifies the means" theory throughout their agenda, have no tolerance for that same theory as related to interrogation of the enemy.  Why is that?

As in prevoius threads and

As in prevoius threads and posts, torture has such a blurred meaning.

Anything that is annoying is deemed torture.

America has become such wimps since WWII.

Well, for once, the rich white man is in control. --Montgomery Burns

What you describe, KC, is

What you describe, KC, is more than just a lawyer tactic.  It has been used by the political left for as long as I can remember.  They assume, for instance, that GWB is guilty of whatever they charge him with, and then they argue from the standpoint of "How are we going to change this?"  They act as of the trial is already over and we're just at the sentencing.  Al Gore does this with his global warming crusdae ("the debate is over"); Bush's tax cuts have been skewered despite the fact that they have actually worked favorably, etc.  The list can go on and on if you think about it.

I agree completely, but what

I agree completely, but what infuriates me is when the Republican party sits by and says nothing to defend themselves or expose the practice.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"

Yes, I think the Republicans

Yes, I think the Republicans are gun-shy from being blasted by the media endlessly.  If you are a politician, you want to be liked and to be re-elected.  I'm not making excuses for them, mind you, but it's got to be tough knowing that your words and actions are going to be misrepresented to a huge segment of the population by a media that does not agree with you.  This, ultimately, has to have a significant impact on behavior.  Our politicians are moving leftward because the media has been leading (i.e. coercing) them in that direction.  Witness the misrepresentation of the S-CHIP veto which is ongoing right now.  To much of the country, Bush is against health care for poor children, when the reality is he's trying to save it.  Bush has been relatively liberal on many issues, yet much of the country truly believes he is a hardcore conservative.  If they think GWB is far right, then who exactly is acceptable to them?

Agreed

Much of it is because the Left rarely strays from its comfort zone. The Left knows that it will almost never face a hostile environment in the mainstream media.

Usually you restrain yourself when you face opposition, and it keeps you from spouting off, and you keep your comments within bounds. But since the media never challenges the Left, the Left has no restraint. They allow Tom Harkin to snidely bluster that Rush Limbaugh must be on drugs again, which is a punchable offense in any bar, but the media gave him a complete pass.

When a normal citizen looks around to see what his fellow citizens think, the media offers only one point of view, and he may mistake that unanimity as proof that everyone else feels the same way. The citizen assumes that everyone feels exactly how the media says they feel. But the media only presents the view of the media. They only show the "normal citizens" who seem to agree with them.

It's manipulation by managing assumptions.

I still do not get it. 

I still do not get it.  What do the East and West Coast snobs have against COWBOYS?

I have never met finer people than those who ride the range chasing cattle here in Cochise County of Arizona.

If I were ever to be in a tight spot, I would rather see a cowboy walk up to my car than:

1.)  A tort attourney from NYC.

2.)  An ACLU attourney from LA.

3.)  A film producer from Hollywood.

4.)  A humanities professor from Berkeley.

5.)  The entire UN General Assembly.

The only person I might want on the spot more than a cowboy is an SF Team Sergeant.

BD...

I've wondered about this for quite sometime. I can still remember when Reagan was being called a Cowboy as if it was a negative. To this day, I thought those using the term as a negative were just stupid. I would be honored to be called a Cowboy. 

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Yes, I have never

Yes, I have never understood the notion of using the term cowboy as a perjorative.  Around here it is a term of honor, and when someone is showing a lack of commitment to a task he is told to "Cowboy up" in order to get the job finished.

In fact, I think we should start posting signs at Code Pink rallies telling them to "Cowboy Up" and allow us to win the war.

 

I agree completely.  When I

I agree completely.  When I was young, being a cowboy was a good thing--independent spirit, tireless worker, wholesome values, etc.  The left has hijacked this and made it out to be something evil.  The world really is upside down to many of these people, isn't it?

Just more prrof that liberals...

have mental disorders. Any shrink in the world would consider a person wacky if they refuse to accept reality. 

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"The left has hijacked this

"The left has hijacked this and made it out to be something evil."

Unless it's a gay cowboy, then it's great.

Dutch

It's the Slogans, stupid.

She's just throwing slogans around to see what will stick.

Hopefully the only thing that will stick are felony illegal campaign funding charges.

And to think...everyone with a real job, missed this...

You were either commuting to work, getting ready to go to work, and you missed this Hillary Gab Session, that was the most Shallow discussion of  Policy and issues that is possible.

Even Chris Matthead would have had issues with the lack of substance in this discussion of  Iraq war and Policies.  

I guess they didn't want to confuse anyone watching, keeping them in "Shallow water" the whole time.

As for the "reality" of foreign policy under Hillary, "countries that are not exactly in the forefront of giving women their rights" should be scared, very scared of Hillary.   Assasinations would be "Back in Style" with her.   

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

Americans

Millions of Americans are ignorant and apathetic. Millions are brainwashed. Millions are brain dead. All these people will vote for Hillary Clinton.  We can only hope they are outnumbered when the votes are tallied.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

"I think that I have strong

"I think that I have strong feelings about what should be done in the country and I think a lot of people disagree with that and I respect that."

Yeah, she "respects" conservatives so much that she is a proponent of the Fairness Doctrine and stifling conservative talk radio. 

Dutch

  To the left a cowboy is

  To the left a cowboy is a negative.  Why?  Because it's so masculine.  In the leftists world they only want females and feminized males.  Females need to reach consensus and inclusion.  A cowboy calls 'em as he sees 'em.

     Jimmie carter was our first female president.  He believes if we just have a good talk with our enemies we can overcome our differences and end our hostilities.  Oh sure, there will be some harsh words, some feelings will be hurt but in the end there will be tears and hugs and great joy that a new understanding and mutual support will blossom into an enduring friendship.

 

And as we hug our enemies,

And as we hug our enemies, we will find long sharp objects being thrust into our backs by those we hug. 

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Thats why you stab them in

Thats why you stab them in the belly first. Before they get that hand behind you.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

bass... BULLS-EYE!!!

bass...

BULLS-EYE!!!

LOL, BT. Yes there is that

LOL, BT. Yes there is that to....:-)

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Cowboy diplomacy works.

Cowboy diplomacy works. Better the Cowboy varity than the sheep hearder, which is what Hill would bring to the White House. And that is what we have had in the past, with Clinton, a sheep herder. Prod the little sheep towards the cliff at the edge of the socialist pit, all the long telling the little sheep, its what is best for them. After all, they are little sheep, and to stupid to know whats best. We need a cowboy to head off the stampede towards socilaism in the US. A cowboy that will stand in the street and face down the gang and shoot it out if need be. Black hat or whatever.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Elizabeth Hassleback is a

Elizabeth Hassleback is a useless tool, a roiling cauldron of IGNORANCE. If she's the best we've got, it's no wonder we're toast. Heil Hillary.

I suspect that's why they

I suspect that's why they hired her and keep her there. She doesn't threaten to show up the hags as the ignoramuses (ignorami?) they are.