During his Monday smackdown on the Laura Ingraham radio show, CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin declined to say yes or no when Laura asked him if he had ever met or interviewed Justice Clarence Thomas before he claimed the Justice was "furious all the time." Toobin suggested Laura should ask Thomas. In a soundbite Ingraham aired at the top of the 10 am hour on Thursday, after his hour-long interview was done, Thomas confirmed that he granted no interview to Toobin. Thomas said he "would have no clue" who Toobin was if he saw him on the street.
Deep into his Monday interview on NPR’s Diane Rehm show, Toobin explained the difference between Justice Thomas and Justice Antonin Scalia. Thomas was "a nut." He added at show’s end that Thomas’s legal views were "highly unusual and extreme." He also predicted that if elected president, Hillary Clinton would nominate Barack Obama to the Supreme Court, a "political masterstroke" for Hillary since Obama would be an "unassailable nominee."
When a caller from Texas asked if Thomas was competent enough to be on the Court, both Toobin and NPR’s other guest, Jeffrey Rosen of The New Republic, agreed he was competent – but Thomas was a nut:
TOOBIN: I think he’s perfectly competent. I don’t think that is the issue. I think what matters about these justices is what their ideologies are, and he is the most conservative justice to serve on the court, I think, since the 1930s, but is he capable –
REHM, sounding stunned: More so than Scalia?
TOOBIN: Oh, much more than Scalia. I was at a synagogue where Justice Scalia was giving a speech not too long ago and someone asked him to compare your judicial philosophy and Justice Thomas’s, and he talked for a while, and he said, ‘well, look, I’m a textualist. I’m an originalist, but I’m not a nut.’ And I think that sums up a little bit the difference between the two. Justice Thomas believes that much of the New Deal is unconstitutional. Justice Scalia doesn’t.
ROSEN: Diane, you’re looking shocked!
REHM: Wow, yeah!
(Patterico isn't buying that Scalia would imply Thomas was nutty. He's objecting to Toobin's book describing a 2005 synagogue event. Apparently, according to his links, Toobin also tried this line on another book-plugging NPR interview, on Fresh Air with Terry Gross on September 19.)
Rosen disagreed with Toobin’s theory that ideology was what mattered. It was still the question of Thomas’s roiling anger: "Temperament, personality matter. It’s the fact that Thomas is so angry...the fact that he can’t get over this wound, this indignity, that he’s always been so angry, that makes him more radical than people who are essentially ofthe same ideology like Scalia or even Roberts. This is an example of someone undone by his temperament."
At the end of the hour, a caller from Hillary’s adopted area of Westchester, New York worried strangely that Thomas had returned to a " a fundamentalist, Calvinistic form of Roman Catholicism." (Calvinism and Catholicism are rarely confused as synonymous.) Toobin said religion doesn’t matter: "What matters about Thomas is his legal views and they are highly unusual and extreme."
When asked what kind of Supreme Court justice Democrats would pick, and whether those picks would oppose the death penalty, Toobin placed Hillary in the political center:
TOOBIN: Hillary Clinton...she’s no radical. She supports the death penalty. Not that you asked, but if Hillary Clinton’s president, I think she’ll appoint Barack Obama to the Supreme Court. [Rosen laughs.] It’s no joke, absolutely.
ROSEN: You think before the primary?
TOOBIN: Before the primary, no, I think it would be a political masterstroke; legally, I think he’d be an unassailable nominee, and it would also have that great Clinton Machiavellian edge of getting him out of the way.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.




















Editor at Large
Comments Policy
Dennis Miller quoted a
October 4, 2007 - 12:20 ET by Chris NormanDennis Miller quoted a great line from The Fountainhead, last night, on O'Reilly. When his antagonist told Howard Roarke that he had done something and asked what Roarke thought about that, Roarke answered, "I don't think about you". This is, in effect, what Justice Thomas does and that gets them even more upset.
This is just more of the
October 4, 2007 - 12:22 ET by nofateThis is just more of the Kafkaesque lynching of an uppity black that doesn't follow the plantation owner's party line. They keep admitting that the problem is that Thomas is conservative (oh my!), and that is why he can never be approved of. These people are so oblivious to what they are admitting that they don't realize, that, like Ahmawhackjob, they are broadcasting their intentions to utterly change the American cultural and legal landscape by legislating and then stacking the Supreme court to back it up. Sadly, the American public, since Roosevelt, has not awakened from it's need to suck at the government tit. And, even more sadly, may actually elect these nutjobs.
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
http://www.michaelyon-online.com
Barack Obama for Supreme Court?
October 4, 2007 - 12:40 ET by allanfIt says a lot about Toobin that he would think Barack Obama is ready for the Supreme Court. No matter what you think about Obama, his judicial and legal experience is limited.
He is a graduate of Harvard Law School, but then so is Chuck Schumer. His legal experience consists of working as an associate with Miner, Barnhill and Galland in Chicago from 1993 to 1996. In 1996 he was elected to the Illinois State Legislature. He has been a politician ever since.
These guys aren't
October 4, 2007 - 12:41 ET by Chris NormanThese guys aren't interested in qualifications. They're interested in throwing as many liberal bombs as possible.
And as young as
October 4, 2007 - 13:05 ET by drillanwrAnd as young as possible.
The Supreme Court is this country's "Pope", so to speak
1) Has the final word on this country's laws and legal cases ...
2) and it's a job for life (as long as the Justice doesn't step down) ... You could probably get a full 30 years, more!, out of an Obama on the Court.
Word Association Game
October 4, 2007 - 12:48 ET by NoMoreClintonsNo matter what you think about Obama,
The word "lightweight" does come to mind.
Toobin..
October 4, 2007 - 12:41 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. is a dumb*ss.
Indoctrinate-U
Our Education. Their Politics.
It’s the fact that Thomas
October 4, 2007 - 12:43 ET by HypocriteHaterIt’s the fact that Thomas is so angry...the fact that he can’t get over this wound, this indignity, that he’s always been so angry, that makes him more radical than people who are essentially ofthe same ideology like Scalia or even Roberts
So Jeffrey, you don't know of any liberal black men and women who are "always angry" and "more radical"? Interesting.
"More radical"?
October 4, 2007 - 12:52 ET by dervishEven though Thomas votes with Scalia so consistently that the liberals accuse him of not thinking for himself? Toobin is a nitwit, and a dishonest one. You'd think maybe he'd have learned something about his prejudice by his experience with Scalia.
That particular lefty-critique of Justice Thomas
October 4, 2007 - 14:01 ET by sarcasmoWent strangely-silent in the wake of his excellently-written and devastating (for those few who believe in Federalism, anyway) Raisch dissent, and hasn't been heard-from since....
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
And you'd think
October 4, 2007 - 20:57 ET by dervishthat that decision alone would have earned some lefty respect. I would assume his personal views were with the majority, but he followed the Constitution where it led. What a concept.
Yes. Justice Thomas rocks.
October 5, 2007 - 00:17 ET by sarcasmoThat powerful dissent, for me, was the final proof he's as intellectual and principled as I'd always suspected he was (and that's the true reason he was attacked so-hysterically by the big-government side from the start, IMO). It's as if truth, Federalism, and correctly interpreting the US Constitution were more-important to Justice Thomas than partisan politics, even on an issue as emotional-not-logical as this country's holy tax & spend drugwar. As you say above, "what a concept."
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
So Jeffrey, you don't
October 4, 2007 - 13:02 ET by FishFace222So Jeffrey, you don't know of any liberal black men and women who are "always angry" and "more radical"? Interesting.
A little help for Jeffrey:
SPIKE LEE
AL SHARPTON
JESSE JACKSON
Leo Tyrell, Louis Farrakhan,
October 4, 2007 - 13:16 ET by fitzfongLeo Tyrell, Louis Farrakhan, Maxine Waters, Cynthia McKinney, John Conyers, Tavis Smiley, Roland Martin...
Toobin Snoobin
October 4, 2007 - 12:50 ET by d1carterIs this the kinda crap you've got to do to sell a book?
"What If" Game
October 4, 2007 - 12:52 ET by NoMoreClintonsCan you imagine the liberal reaction if O'Reilly or Rush called Thurgood Marshall a "nut".
Last week, during the
October 4, 2007 - 13:10 ET by drillanwrLast week, during the Justice Thomas book promo interviews, someone ... I can't remember who said it (maybe Thomas himself ... Laura Ingraham ... somebody) said when Justice Marshall saw what the Senate et al were doing to Thomas during the nomination procedings, Marshall cried.
NB, maybe you could dig that one up? Had to be on FNC. (Very slight chance it was on Glenn Beck's TV show ... but I'm leaning almost completely it was on FNC)
Thurgood "NoGood" Marshall
October 4, 2007 - 19:45 ET by ahusserThurgood "NoGood" Marshall was the worst POS SCJ we ever had. A black racist a$$hole and dumber than a box or rocks. Yet he is lauded as a great Justice. Well he was a good lefty so I guess that qualifies him as a great man.
Wasn't Scalia the One That Called Him a "Nut"?
October 4, 2007 - 19:52 ET by nyisgoldwatercountryThomas is a radical justice (IMO), but I also think Stevens is equally (if not more) radical. This isn't a knock on their intellect, it's a statement that their legal views exist outside of the mainstream.
Also, Obama did teach Constitutional Law at one of the top law schools in the country; a school that one
current justice (A.S.) previously taught at. Not that that's
qualification enough, but it certainly means something.
You sound like Chucky
October 4, 2007 - 21:04 ET by fitzfongYou sound like Chucky Schumer with your "legal views exist outside of the mainstream". What, exactly is that platitude supposed to mean? And what qualifies you to define what is "the mainstream"?
As for whether or not it "means something" that Obama taught Constitutional Law "at one of the top law schools in the country"...it does not. He's simply a cardboard cutout...a walking focus group...without an original thought to save his life.
By the way, if you think your attempts to mislead everyone by suggesting that Scalia called Thomas a "nut" are working, they're not. Nice try.
Chucky? That's harsh, friend.
October 5, 2007 - 01:09 ET by nyisgoldwatercountryI'm not qualified (are you?). Do you think Stevens is mainstream? (I hope/expect not.) "Platitude" or no, I think it's fair to call Thomas' views radical. Look up "radical." It's not a bad thing.
I wasn't making a judgment on Obama, I was judging his credentials and saying I respect UofC Law. Would I nominate him? No. But I think it's unfair to say he's unqualified. Esp. when you look at Thomas's pre-court experience. (Or Miers's for that matter.)
I'm not trying to mislead, as I didn't see the interview. I'm just going off the quoted text from the blog post. The post makes it seem like Toobin was quoting Scalia... who I'm sure was making a joke anyway. (btw... he had a great Lex Luthor joke in oral arguments the other day... I can't remember where I read it, but it was droll.)
nyisgoldwatercountry, In
October 5, 2007 - 11:51 ET by fitzfongnyisgoldwatercountry,
In my opinion, the phrase "in the mainstream" is a deliberately misleading label used by partisan politicians like Schumer to marginalize qualified nominees with differing political views. The term is a typical trojan horse, seemingly benign at first glance, but extremely loaded and poisonous if swallowed. Frankly, I'm not interested in whether or not Thomas or Stevens are considered "mainstream". I reject the use of the phrase entirely, because it's defined subject to the biases of the user, and it's a meaningless platitude at best. Good or not, your labelling of Justice Thomas as "radical" is another platitude...certainly so without specific examples (i.e. opinions) to bolster your definition of "radical".
As for Barack Obama's "qualifications"...his resume may be impressive to some, but the blatant ignorance he's exhibited throughout his campaign suggest a future worthy of no more than the career bureaucrat he currently is.
With regard to the Scalia quote, he said that he, himself, was not a nut. Toobin made the leap to suggest that Scalia was contrasting himself with Thomas.
Jeffrey Toobin seems to
October 4, 2007 - 13:11 ET by fitzfongJeffrey Toobin seems to think he's a genius. He's not even intelligent, he's a partisan hack with an "expert" title at (ta da) CNN. Ever notice how he never speaks in specifics when he attacks Clarence Thomas...or anyone else to the right of Stalin? For example: "What matters about Thomas is his legal views and they are highly unusual and extreme."...Really? Which ones, "expert"? Define "unusual and extreme". My guess is that Thomas doesn't want to confer the same rights on terrorists that Toobin would like him to do. Quit throwing out dishonest, non-specific left-wing talking points like "Justice Thomas believes that much of the New Deal is unconstitutional", and be a man. Do you have facts to back up such a claim, or are you just reciting your DNC marching orders from a script? (Not that I'd be bothered if Justice Thomas did believe that much of the New Deal is unconstitutional). And Toobs***k loses any claim to credibilty when he suggests that Hillary is not an extremist or that serial lightweight Barack Obama would be a "masterstroke" Supreme Court nominee. To borrow a sports cliche: Obama isn't fit to carry Justice Thomas' jock.
Toobin better come out of Never Never land
October 4, 2007 - 13:25 ET by Lame CherryToobin is an embarrassment to liberals and I hope he just keeps on spewing. As one can read from the comments pouring in here, Justice Thomas has very passionate supporters who hold him in high esteem.
Justice Thomas is the mainstream of American interests and ideals for all races as this is exactly what families teach their children and they grow up to be productive citizens.
Hillary will never be elected no matter the schemes she hatches, but it is amusing that Toobin thinks Barak Obama is Supreme Court material and no one will dare touch him.
Obama is a thought retard with about as much legal or experience standing as an 8 year old. The Senate would chew him up as all that he has gotten now are soft balls from reporters and a happy crowd of groupies following him.
Perhaps Toobin should examine Obama's wife as his greatest barometer of what the man is like. Obama's wife says he stinks and is hairy..........
Who on earth would say something about their mate like that in public? That is about as ignorant as it comes and if one examines how Obama chatters one it is about how ignorant he is on foreign matters.
Perhaps as Toobin though vents he will have his Don Imus moment and be ushered out with the other liberal sewage in flush that is long overdue for this malevolent little pest.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
"Unusual and extreme" is
October 4, 2007 - 13:27 ET by Free Thinker"Unusual and extreme" is code for he does not manipulate the constitution to fit a liberal political agenda. As for Obama as an unassailable supreme court nominee, I think Toobin is nuts.
That was some thirty years
October 4, 2007 - 13:56 ET by 4arrowThat was some thirty years ago. Men behaved liked jerks then. with the exception of the gentlemen sons Father and I were rearing along with other families in the neighborhood/parrish.
Let it go.
Today,young women are behaving badly.
BION: I will black ball any lady who wants to be in this family who has shown the bad judgement to tattoo her flesh.
They have to portray
October 4, 2007 - 13:53 ET by drillanwrThey have to portray Justice Thomas as that stereotypical "angry, crazy blackman who might have violent tendencies ... <gasp>"
So, once again the left plays the "Joker" in the deck of race cards ... I'm surprised the left isn't running and locking their daughters up! Ugly ... simply ugly.
Generally, in place of the words "unusual and extreme", when it's a conservative white man in the same position it's "staunch"
Unusual and extreme = crazy, loco, insane, ticking time bomb
staunch = strict, mean, bossy, blinders on
Remind me agin ... WHO are the racists?
go girl
October 4, 2007 - 14:04 ET by TruthMongergo girl
WHO are the racists?
October 5, 2007 - 07:35 ET by Sergeant ROCKLiberals, of course. But, in a liberal's world of delusion, it's not racism when liberals do it. Hence: Liberalism = Hypocrisy.
Indoctrinate-U
Our Education. Their Politics.
Toobin
October 4, 2007 - 14:15 ET by Jerry MackIs Toobin aware that Laura was a clerk for Justice Thomas? I doubt it.
}}---> Thomas is a nut?
October 4, 2007 - 15:30 ET by Cool ArrowAnd a Machiavellian edge doesn't denote even a hint of lunacy?
Toobin wants to say something, but he knows he can't really say what he's really thinking. Maybe he can get Smiley to say it for him.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Toobin is being slowly
October 5, 2007 - 03:42 ET by daveinbocaToobin is being slowly stripped of any credibility by both book reviewers of his tome on SCOTUS and the actual interviewees. Of course, for a fraud and impostor like Toobin, any publicity is good and builds book sales---even though the word-of-mouth is almost universally luke-warm at best and scathing most of the time.
CNN is crawling with fakes and second-raters---the legacy of a founder who was a nasty drunk and a one-hit wonder.
Jonathan Turley at Georgetown is a much more sensible version of the lying mini-monster Toobin. It's hard to say which Toobin exemplifies the most: artful dodger or social climber.
Serial hoaxer perhaps fits his brand of legal writing the best.
Just another liberal lying incessantly to make a living and insulting his betters---especially if they are smart conservatives, and almost every conservative is smarter than this little shyster-creep.