Clarence Thomas to Bloggers: Wish You'd Been Around in 1991!

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In my twentysomething days, one of the most infuriating, even sickening cases of media bias was something they inflicted on Clarence Thomas called "the Hill-Thomas hearings." That’s a very bland and generic description for a woman named Anita Hill trying to sabotage the Thomas nomination to the Supreme Court – first anonymously, and then on the record -- by telling wild and unproven stories about the judge’s lewd talk around her.

When I was invited to dine with Clarence and Virginia Thomas and an impressive crew of columnists and bloggers at the Heritage Foundation Monday night, I wasn’t sure what I would ask Justice Thomas if given the chance. I wanted to ask about the media, but Justice Thomas was very clear at the outset of his remarks about the media that’s supposed to know him best. He said "we’re not talking to the Supreme Court reporters." He said that would be like trying to train a pig. It would have been nice to raise Jeffrey Toobin’s forever-furious theories, but I didn’t.

The one Supreme Court reporter Thomas mentioned twice was Linda Greenhouse of the New York Times – the one who got caught marching in an abortion-rights rally. (She also gives embarrassing commencement speeches about crying through Simon and Garfunkel.) Thomas mentioned it would have been great to have bloggers around during Hill’s savage attack on him in 1991, and that it’s nice to have more interpretations of events than the "Linda Greenhouse version." When asked about Republican SCOTUS nominees "growing" in office, he also recommended a classic lament by his friend Judge Laurence Silberman titled "The Greenhouse Effect."

For her part, Ginni expressed happiness (and some nervousness) about her husband doing the Old Media rounds, saying after the 60 Minutes interview "we like CBS right now."

When we were asked to go around the table and say a few words of greeting, I said we at the MRC (in our very primitive new-media way, a monthly newsletter at a glacial pace) were there for the confirmation fight, chronicling the obvious pro-Hill and anti-Thomas biases of the partisan press, connected strategically (and even financially) with the left-wing interest groups. NBC even filmed us in our offices cheering when Thomas was confirmed. My friend Tim Lamer even got the words "strict constructionist" on TV news.

For those who would like to know what it was like to meet Thomas and listen to him, I should say I first met the justice outside of our shared church after Mass one day for a few minutes about ten years ago, and then and now, the first thing you notice is how he shows an interest in you when you’re humbled and want to do that Wayne-and-Garth we’re-not-worthy joke. I would tell you that the first word I would use to describe him is "compelling."

For you slightly older people who remember old TV ads, he has an E.F. Hutton quality – when he begins to speak, people bend their ears to listen. That passion that came out so strongly in 1991, declaring in his sonorous voice "This is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who deign to think for themselves" – that’s all still there. (I bet it would still make Ted Kennedy squirm in his seat and send Patrick Leahy straight to his Bat-cave.) The phrase "liberal lion" is an overused word in the media to describe every politician that reporters want to honor. Was Howard Metzenbaum ever anyone’s idea of a lion? If there is one person who defines the term "conservative lion," it is Clarence Thomas.

So what would I ask? I also would have liked to ask about how the allegations against Bill Clinton of sexual harassment and sexual assault were much more serious than Hill’s charges of verbal lechery from Thomas. The utter insincerity of the left-wing attack on Thomas in 1991 was revealed in the left’s refusal to fight for Paula Jones in 1994, when she charged that Clinton dropped his pants and told her to kiss his penis; when the left refused to fight for Kathleen Willey in 1998, when she charged Clinton turned a job interview into a groping session, grabbing her breast and putting her hand on his erect penis; and most amazingly, in 1999, when Juanita Broaddrick cried through an NBC interview recounting her claim that Clinton raped her in a Little Rock hotel room when he was Arkansas’s Attorney General. How could the press still present Anita Hill’s charges as "vivid and vulgar" – compared to all that?

I would have liked to ask about how Anita Hill in 1998 was not out there speaking out against Bill Clinton, but was hosting him at Martha’s Vineyard. Hill announced on Meet the Press that even if Kathleen Willey was groped by the President, it wasn't sexual harassment, since it did not result in any employment discrimination. The woman who wanted to kill the Thomas nomination with Coke-can concoctions said she didn’t think most women would let these charges, so much more serious than hers, derail the Clinton presidency, since he is "better on the bigger issues." But I didn’t. I didn’t have those quotes at the ready.

So I asked about judicial confirmation battles for minorities? How could the president manage to nominate a Miguel Estrada or a Janice Rogers Brown for the Supreme Court? How could the media be expected to react? Thomas deferred, saying he was not a strategist. He seemed very grateful to every person who groomed him and advised him through his own scandalously narrow passage to confirmation.

So I tried again: considering how comparatively easy the nomination battles were for John Roberts and Samuel Alito, did Thomas ever want to display, even comically, some envy that they had it so easy? Thomas said it was a "good question," and then said with an enthusiastic smile that he was "the freest justice on the court." I think he was saying that now that he’s in a permanent job, one that cannot be taken away by the Jeffrey Toobins, he can simply do that job and not obsess over what the Toobins might say.

It was a perfect moment to laugh at Toobin’s notion that our man Clarence, who filled the room all night with his boisterous laugh, was "furious all the time."

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center


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He's got my respect

Gotta get "My Grandfather's Son". He may be one of the "quietest", but he has never failed, in my opinion, in his interpretation of the Constitution.

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I will always BELIEVE

I will always BELIEVE CLARENCE:)!

Those lynch-mob HT hearings are a huge part of why NB is here today...

Ah Tim, you lucky bastard.

Ah Tim, you lucky bastard. That had to be a very enlightening occasion. Thank you for sharing.

   In the eighties the

   In the eighties the womens movement was on the march.  They demanded equality, respect, choices, and real power.

  Then came cousin billy from Arkansas who slapped that uppity woman down and as she staggered back to her feet he said " now why don't you go put that on that purty sweater I like so much".  She gets up and slowly goes to put on his favorite sweater. 

  When asked why she stays with him she says " I have too.... he's my man".

Tim Graham

What an honor you had to be in the presence of such a great man. I, too, vividly recall the Thomas confirmation hearings, and I knew at the time that it would be a defining moment in U.S. history.

Clarence Thomas is a great man, because he is a good man, a decent man, a brilliant hard-working individual who embodies all that is the American Spirit. God has, indeed, blessed Clarence Thomas.

By the way, your "Wayne-and-Garth" analogy is hilarious!

Beautiful tribute, Tim.

Beautiful tribute, Tim. While not an activist, I was one of those women who was against the Thomas confirmation. Big mistake…. not my first, but big mistake.

At first I thought it was a little unseemly for a Supreme Court Justice to write a personal book and do the media tour. Now I am pleased that he chose to tell his story. Anyone who supported his confirmation opponents and their vicious attacks (like me) can’t help but feel shame when confronted with the obvious decency of this man.

Envious Post in a good way

Here am I just finishing up William Cody's autobiography again and thinking how great it is for Rush Limbaugh to have a window on so many Americans of note like Cody did and here is Mr. Graham affording the same opportunity.

I have always been a staunch supporter of Justice Thomas, but I find myself growing more daily and wondering why it has taken this titan so long to associate with Americans who adore him.
He has endured so much harsh rhetoric without one peep even in his speeches in answering it that it simply astounds me how this human could take it.

Justice Thomas as I blogged here a few days ago needs, deserves and is awarded FULL credit for Sam Alito and John Roberts "easy" confirmation hearings.
For those who remember the pounding he took, he was but another "n word for the liberal lynch mob tree" as they were not just going to Bork him, but fillet him and make certain that no uppity black ever dared espouse a Conservative rank again.

Justice Thomas took on the whole fricking media, attack dogs and liberals in Congress and did it all alone. He won it alone thank God.
There is not enough credit given him as his victory on point was after Reagan was in retirment. Limbaugh was still struggling and building and there was not O'Reilly, Hannity or Fox. There was only Clarence Thomas paving the way showing what it was to be an American male.

There are not enough positive adjectives to bestow upon this gentleman who children should be taught about for his character traits. Some people have Herculean strength.........Clarence Thomas has Herculean strength of character.

I could go on, but this is envious of Mr. Graham in being able to be in a room with a person of this kind of noteworthy presence. I hope that Mr. Graham drank freely of it, savoured it, noted the littlest of details to replay in his mind.........so he can tell people years from now, "I met Clarence Thomas and he was even more than what people could comprehend".

Semper Fi

 

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It's time to Call out the Liberal Bigots

We can only hope that Thomas' book, the interviews, and the race issues that he questions, starts a movement.  The Liberal community is hopelessly bigoted (a la Biden, Kennedy, Leahy, Clinton, Pelosi, Durban, the NYT, the old media, etc. etc. etc.)  They derive their power from putting people of color in their place, promise them money for votes, and shed Crocodile tears for the "racially oppressed."  Just like when the Romans built the Coliseum to control the people by keeping them occupied, so they wouldn't dissent.

It's about time for Thomas and others to call out and identify these people for what they are, and start our country to recovery.

 "If a liberal didn't live it, it doesn't exist."

Tim, I'll join the jealous...

I'm not sure what I'd ask him if I met him, either. I'd probably just kiss-ass over the fact that he's a principled federalist even when it's not convenient, and want to shake his hand.

Your link to Judge Laurence Silberman's "Greenhouse Effect" leads to a NYT article, and my abysmal searching skills only uncovered similar articles referencing what Silberman said. Might someone here be able to point me to the judge's original words? Thanks.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Wish we had bloggers vs. "Things are out of control"

There's a slight tension in these statements by Thomas. Sounds to me that Thomas was one of the many victims of the our increasingly large federal government and the partisan wars for control over its decisions and largess. As he noted himself in the great interview by Kroft of CBS:

"The process harmed her. It harmed me, and we see sort of the precedence of this kinda thing begin to even harm people like President Clinton. Things are out of control," he explains.

"After this whole horrible experience, you won," Kroft says.

"Won what?" Thomas asks. "What was the game? There was no game, Steve. This wasn't about winning anything, this wasn't a football game. This was about our country. This was about a process. This was about our courts. This was about our Constitution. Who won?"

I imagine he would agree that government is more often the problem than the solution, and I am happy to see him breathing more live back into federalism - the notion that the federal government can't solve every problem and the states have legitimate and important roles, and that the federal government has gone too far with the Commerce Clause etc.

And if can succeed in hacking back the state, we will all have won. There seems to be a growing recognition, especially after the Republicans' spin at the wheel, that our bigggest threat comes from our own government.

I do find it slightly surprising that, given his understanding of the role of big government in the politics of personal destruction, he did not choose to stay above the fray in his recent book. That might have been an even more eloquent response to critics on the left, although holding one's tongue is never easy.

A libertarin blogger at Volokh made an interesting observation about the polical divide that:

"Nothing in conservative ideology precludes the possibility that individual conservatives might engage in boorish and morally reprehensible private behavior of the sort Thomas is accused of; similarly, liberal ideology does not deny the possibility that a person in Hill's position might lie for political gain. Given the murkiness of the underlying facts, unbiased observers would not split so sharply along ideological lines on this issue. ...

[M]ost of the polarization over Thomas-Hill probably wasn't feigned. It was instead a consequence of the all-too-common assumption that our ideological adversaries are not only wrong but also evil - or at least far more likely to be so than those who agree with us. If you believe that liberals are, on average, likely to be morally corrupt, then it would be rational for you to assume that a liberal is more likely to be lying than a conservative and thus to automatically believe Thomas over Hill even in the absence of clear proof. And vice versa if you hold the reverse view."

I am in favor of Thomas's views on the Constitution, which I hope will cut back the state that both parties squabble so fiercely over. But I take a neutral position about the possible missteps of man.

Clear Blindness

"I do not know what is true. ... But in the midst of doubt ... I do not doubt that the faith is true and adorable which leads a soldier to throw away his life in obedience to a blindly accepted duty."
- Oliver Wendel Holmes, Jr.

A microcosm of the liberal mind

Justice Thomas' whole career in the supreme court, every freakin day, puts the lie to the whole liberal movement. By ingnoring this mans past and present achievements, they loudly shout from the halls of the press, the senate and the house "Don't use your own talents or develope them to get ahead, hitch your wagon to us and we will will advance your interests through pandering and legislation and you will be better off than before".

What a role model for young black men he could be if only given the right type of backing by the liberal elite, not to mention Jesse and Al who are the panderers in chief. America has missed an excellent chance to help young blacks realize the American dream, instead its more of the same.

"A girl phoned me the other day and said .... Come on over, there's
nobody home. I went over. Nobody was home."

-Rodney Dangerfield