Susan Sarandon’s making the publicity rounds for her latest anti-war movie, titled In the Valley of Elah. In Friday’s Washington Post, staff writer Ellen McCarthy profiled Sarandon and this movie, "inspired by a 2004 Playboy magazine story about a returning soldier who was killed by his close friends and fellow Iraq war vets after a rowdy night of beers and strippers near their base in Fort Benning." Sarandon denounced the war as usual, but now she’s claiming to speak for returning soldiers, who she claimed are "asked to kill children and women in order to stay alive." Here’s how her Post quotes unfolded:
"The main reason I wanted to do it was that I felt that there has been a huge disconnect between the real war and the politicized war," says the 60-year-old actress, who has been a hugely vocal critic of the conflict since the 2003 invasion. "And I felt that this movie acknowledges that war takes really decent people and changes them." [Read: warps them, ruins them.]
..."It's really important to listen to what the veterans are telling us about what they need. What they've seen, what they've done," she says in a phone interview during a promotional blitz. "A lot of these vets who are taking it upon themselves to educate us as to their needs and the actual experiences of this war are very articulate, but the press is not really listening for whatever reason."
"A lot of people aren't listening," she adds. "And I thought that this was a great opportunity to trigger a real dialogue."
After claiming she’s now spent a lot of time with soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, she apparently learned they are ordered to slaughter the innocent:
"I think we need to acknowledge the toll that it takes on them physically and psychologically and spiritually," she says. "It's this surreal experience of going from this intense environment where you're just trying to stay alive and you're asked to kill children and women in order to stay alive. And then you come back into this world that has no idea what's been going on over there."
Sarandon also appeared on ABC’s The View on September 11 (a perfect occasion for an anti-war rant, apparently), and co-host Whoopi Goldberg declared of her film, "I gave it a standing ovation when I watched it."
Sarandon sounded the same themes about how the "huge disconnect" and we’re all ignoring the savage real war and playing with the politicized war instead. She added this numerical claim: "We’ve really been ignoring, I think the statistics are 55 soldiers a day are killed, injured, or sick in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And we are not stepping up to the plate. We’re not discussing it. Our presidential candidates are not discussing it. Definitely our president [is not]. None of these guys that are so eager to get them over there but have never been in a war are really dealing with the actual cost. "
Elisabeth Hasselbeck tried to praise her, and raised no questions about her wild statistics, even as Sarandon suggested our soldiers are young and stupid: "It’s just heartbreaking to see these photos of these smiling eager young, young kids who have been sacrificed and are not even clear why they’re there."
As for the 9/11 anniversary, Sarandon added: "In the rubble of 9/11, our president said ‘Let’s shop.’ There’s no war tax, there’s no GI Bill, you know we’re making the same mistakes that we made." Sarandon also claimed the role of veteran’s activist, complaining about how they can’t see doctors, that there’s a stigma toward their post-traumatic stress disorder, and how "There’s hundreds and hundreds of suicides from this war already."
She also said she liked John Edwards for president, which tells you how far out on the left he is standing in this campaign.
Prodded by co-host Sherri Shepherd to repeat her backstage chatter, Sarandon began on the subject of Kathy Griffin’s "Suck it, Jesus" Emmy speech. She thought Griffin’s critics had a tiny, humorless God – and her God was a Goddess:
"I just said my God has a big sense of humor. It’s much bigger than that. And I wonder if somebody had actually gone down and thanked Allah, what would have happened? I mean, a God other than the one that’s accepted for the most part in this country, a Wiccan? I don’t know. We’re very specific in our gods, but I really think She has a much bigger sense of humor." [Laughter]
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
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now she’s claiming to
September 14, 2007 - 14:16 ET by Binxlynow she’s claiming to speak for returning soldiers, who she claimed are "asked to kill children and women in order to stay alive."
Ok...now I may not think we did the best job possible with Iraq, but *read* her statement. Are our people lining up children and defenseless women and ORDERING them to murder then or they will be killed themselves? Obviously not. Do children die? Yes. it is a foggy moral problem because yes, children are impressionable and easily indoctrinated. Add a cruddy life with low food, and introduce a terrorist organization to them who can offer them 3 squares a day in exchange for their 'service' and of COURSE they are going to join. What they DONT realize is these terrorists and in many other war torn nations are only in possession of these resources because they hijack them when they are initially intended for the people. The same people who promise them salvation on this Earth in exchange for their allegiance are the same ones who are initially robbing them!
Getting to the point, YES kids and women die. But these same kids and women are not the mother and son/daughter playing in the streets or parks that the MSM paints so vividly in our minds for us. These are indoctrinated people, told from birth that WE are the enemy. on top of that, they HAVE weapons. If a civilian woman draws a gun on one of our boys, we're supposed to let her shoot us? Why? Cause she's a woman? Aren't the same people that are against this the same ones who think military strength shouldn't be attributed as a 'male' quality cause its sexist?
Which is it? A woman MUST be represented as a physical equal to a male in our service, but a woman on the side of the bad guys can only be seen as a innocent civilian even with a gun in hand?
Also, I hate saying it, but its a harsh reality. I have friends IN Iraq and who have served. Yes kids have died. The youngest he saw being around 15 I believe. However, these are ARMED people. Child or not, when someone approaches you guns a blazin', its you or them. he said you don't have time for a concience in that moment because the reality of the situation hits like a ton of bricks in less than half a second. Killing children and women is a tragedy, killing MEN is a tragedy, but this is war. Our boys do NOT go looking for innocents to murder. There are a sick few just like in past wars, but the majority only want to do their job, win, and come home. Whether I agree with the handling of the war. that goal I can respect. Susan S. should stick to what she does best. Playing a mummy.
"The View" is just a swamp
September 14, 2007 - 14:16 ET by Chris Norman"The View" is just a swamp of the fringe left, with one whacked out radical after another being interviewed by other whacked out radicals. And they just keep promoting it as just a show where women share their opinions - all legitimate like.
Left wing trash
September 14, 2007 - 14:17 ET by well99That is what that lying piece of dung is.This celebs dont need facts they just spew what they want.One day she should try acting like a real human and not a propaganda machine.She can FOAD in a hard way.
Susan Want a Cracker?
September 14, 2007 - 14:32 ET by RiharC'mon well99, why would Tim Robbins' mom lie about something like this? We should all bow down to our betters in the acting community because they can remember words in front of a camera. Parroting=Liberal political genius. The sooner we all understand this, the sooner our society will become a utopia.
When a liberal speaks, the truth is busy elsewhere.
Nice work if you can get it
September 14, 2007 - 14:39 ET by Gothampc" We should all bow down to our betters in the acting community because they can remember words in front of a camera."
And if you know how a film is made, you realize that they only have to remember about 30 seconds worth of words at a time.
Yup Elites
September 14, 2007 - 16:13 ET by well99Got to love them.I wish once someone would ask all these so called caring yutts if they contribute to DAV.I think she has a oral enema fixation because there is only one thing coming out of her mouth.
Here she is...
September 14, 2007 - 14:17 ET by motherbeltLadies and Gentlemen.....the Jane Fonda of the Iraq war!
How long before she travels to Baghdad to be feted by the "Resistance Movement"?
mb,Sarandin has reached
September 14, 2007 - 14:36 ET by Chris Normanmb,
Sarandon has reached the magical circle of mine where, when I see her face, I immediately change the channel. This magical circle is reserved for only a select few pieces of trash...
that she is...
September 14, 2007 - 17:53 ET by Conservative_in_mass.Mother:
She has probably already called CNN to see if they will be doing anymore ride-a-longs with terrorist snipers so that she can join them for moral support. What a disgrace. As for Hanoi Jane, just seeing the name in print makes my blood boil.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
Elian Gonzo movie?
September 14, 2007 - 14:40 ET by Mica the MagnificentFor a moment, I thought her new movie was titled 'Valley of Elian,' as in Elian Gonzalez.
Valley of Elian - (review) - A story about a young boy whose mother perished en route to America, he made it ashore and lived happily in freedom with loving relatives. But when the fist of communist leader Fidel Castro shook in front of the face of the president of the United States, Bill Clinton pissed in his pants and ordered his henchwoman Janet (I'm not a f***en man, damn it!) Reno to whisk the boy away in the darkness of night to ensure the child a life of misery and poverty. He now works in a 'valley' digging fresh graves for Cuban citizens who talk too much.
Hey Susan. Where's that movie?
Even the most positive reviews seem lukewarm and contrived
September 14, 2007 - 14:55 ET by RJLots of panning from reviewers, but even the positive reviews seem to focus on the "intent" (read: anti-war) of the movie, and not the final result.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/in_the_valley_of_elah/
And I wonder if somebody
September 14, 2007 - 14:31 ET by motherbeltAnd I wonder if somebody had actually gone down and thanked Allah, what
would have happened? I mean, a God other than the one that’s accepted
for the most part in this country, a Wiccan?
If they thanked Allah, or Mother Earth, or Gaia, I think Hollywood would have bowed down before the altar of multiculturism. But if Griffin had substitued "Allah" for "Jesus", the browbeating and the groveling and the denouncing and the wearing of sackcloth and ashes would still be going on.
Ms. Sarandon, God has no gender. We refer to Him as Father, because Jesus referred to Him thus, I believe knowing that we need a familiar concept to grasp. He taught that God's love is as a father for his children. (God didn't reveal Himself to Moses as a father; He said "I am Who Am.")
Personally, I believe that God has all the attributes of the best Mother, too. Fathers tend to be stern, mothers forgiving. Fathers are usually hard taskmasters, mothers more gentle. God is all of these, IMO.
There's a reason why actors need scriptwriters
September 14, 2007 - 14:32 ET by Gothampc"The main reason I wanted to do it was that I felt that there has been
a huge disconnect between the real war and the politicized war,"
I agree. But not for the same reason. There's a huge disconnect because the MSM has decided to highlight everything bad and not highlight anything good.
"She thought Griffin’s critics had a tiny, humorless God"
Or maybe Griffin's definition of "humor" is way off base.
"And I wonder if somebody had actually gone down and thanked Allah, what would have happened?"
If Griffin said the same thing about Mohammed that she said about Jesus, there would be a price on her head. Just ask Salaman Rushdie.
Misery of Hollywood
September 14, 2007 - 14:36 ET by Lame CherrySarandon like most Hollywood types would never do a story about heroes from Iraq, but instead fester out the most degrading thing they can find for the simple reason it appeals to them AS THEY ARE MISERABLE.
One would think with kids, a puss boy sperm donor like Tim Robbins she can order around, a multi millionaire bank account and pretty good looks for an old bag that Sarandon would be doing Miracle on 34th Street.........but nope she has to sow misery and more misery to reflect her existence.
My favorite line was Whooper giving it a standing ovation of ONE. Must have been a real Freudian moment with her loaded 12 gauge double she keeps to blow away people cheering about a movie which hates people killing people.
Makes all perfect sense to liberals. I wonder what Suzie would have amounted to if she had married a real man who could have gotten her to do something with her life in Christian morals.
God help those kids.
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Susan, babe, there IS a G.I. Bill !
September 14, 2007 - 14:42 ET by GalvanicFor 9/11, Sarandon added: "In the rubble of 9/11, our president said ‘Let’s shop.’ There’s no war tax, there’s no GI Bill, you know we’re making the same mistakes that we made."
What in the world is she talking about?! Of course there's a GI Bill, and there are Veterans' Hospitals and physical rehab programs, and returning OEF/OIF vets are screened for PTSD and potential PTSD before they are released from active duty. Several reservists that work with me had several weeks of "wind down" and observation time before being restored top civilian status after a year or more of active duty in OEF/OIF. More disabled veterans are being allowed to remain on active duty than ever before.
As for a "war tax," what would that have to do with our veterans and health care? How much does she want to tax us?
Yes, there are veterans'
September 14, 2007 - 14:56 ET by motherbeltYes, there are veterans' hospitals too. They are so busy in our area, that they are sending most of the injured to civilian hospitals and programs and picking up the tab for it. My husband could not get any treatment or assistance from the Veterans' Hospital or clinics for a brain injury, (he's a 20-year AF vet) because all their space is taken, and all their personnel are busy caring for injured active-duty GI's. (That's fine with us, they are the guys in the arena NOW).
It's funny, these Hollywood types weren't this sympathetic to wounded vets returning from Viet Nam. Why weren't they out beating the drum for more veterans' hospitals and services then?
And I wonder what Sarandon thinks the GI bill IS that they're not getting? PRobably some giveawy program of her own liberal fantasy.
Veteran Hospitals
September 14, 2007 - 15:01 ET by ricklailI was at my daughter's in Pensacola several weeks ago. My son-in-law is stationed at Corry Station. There is a big veterans hospital being built between Navy Hospital Pensacola and Corry Station. While we were there Sen. Martinez was visiting the construction.
By the way how may people watch "The View"?
A bonafided and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class.
By the way how may people
September 14, 2007 - 15:18 ET by motherbeltBy the way how may people watch "The View"? -ricklail
Well, the important thing is that both of them agree with Susan Sarandon.
mb
September 15, 2007 - 08:33 ET by Conservative_in_mass.My wife is a VA nurse up here, and one of the things that impedes their ability to deliver adequate services (at least in her facility) is a sporadic lack of resources. In some cases, private facilities have better access to specialists and specialized equipment. They also have the space, as you've indicated.
It angers me that the blowhards in congress (my entire delegation leading the pack) do nothing more that pay lipservice to our brave soldiers in a time of need, and all the while making sure we are providing all those things needed by illegals crossing our border daily. It's nothing short of disgusting. Funds need to be re- allocated from these PC programs to the people defending our freedom.
As for why these Hollytoids are beating the drum today and not during the Viet-Nam years? It wasn't the chic thing to do then. Thats the only thing that motivates those out of touch morons.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
For 9/11, Sarandon added:
September 14, 2007 - 15:01 ET by drillanwrFor 9/11, Sarandon added: "In the rubble of 9/11, our president said ‘Let’s shop.’
Yyyeeeeaahhhh, Suzzzzzie, not exactly ... And I recall the first thing out of Hillary's loud mouth was "We will REBUILD these buildings ..."
Besides the fact that six years later there ain't nuttin' there, her remark right on the heels of the attack after so many people were so freshly mourning their human losses was one of the most callous and uncouth things I have ever heard.
She is an
September 14, 2007 - 15:06 ET by Free ThinkerShe is an anti-American punk that soldiers simply hate. It is a shame that they volunteer to defend people like her as well as those who support their efforts. As for God having a sense of humor, I certainly hope so for her sake.
Sarandon and Robbins
September 14, 2007 - 15:48 ET by pocomoco"Makes all perfect sense to liberals. I wonder what Suzie would have amounted to if she had married a real man who could have gotten her to do something with her life in Christian morals.
God help those kids."
Sarandon and Robbins are not married. They have been shacking up for several years and have produced bastard children. So much for their ‘family values’.
Let's compare
September 14, 2007 - 15:51 ET by KC MulvilleWho gets the presumption of truth? Watch how the Hollywood liberals will gush over Sarandon's "courage" and bestow any honor they can find (shouldn't be hard, since they hand out awards every week in that business). Meanwhile, like junior high school girls giggling in the cafeteria, watch how Hollywood mocks Crocker and Petraeus.
To the aliens watching us from above, we're really really sorry for all this ...
Susan Surender "representing the troops"... oh please deliver me
September 14, 2007 - 17:05 ET by wizardjrAs a vet from Viet Nam days I have (we've) seen all this before. Some dipstick that makes a living pretending to be someone else, with a dried up 'career' in Follywood steps in front of the cameras to accuse the military of heineous crimes against innocent women and children. The MSM flocks to them for their oh so educated political/military knowledge based on barely graduating from high school.
The only people I know of that were ordered to kill women and children was Janet Reno's jack booted thugs from DOJ. Perhaps you recall it - WACO.
I defy her to bring actual evidence of any military unit being ordered to kill women and children that were not shooting at the soldiers at the time. Not very likely (of course).
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She's just covering Tim's
September 14, 2007 - 17:14 ET by drillanwrShe's just covering Tim's ass for his bloated US killed this many Iraqis numbers from a couple weeks ago ...
I'm a vet
September 14, 2007 - 17:15 ET by SlicksterAnd I have never encountered any of the BS this wornout prostitute is talking about, just another scam. Has she ever done a USO show, no, she could care less, the GI is just another tool in her communist toolbox.
Hyping Beauchamp, Kerry and
September 14, 2007 - 17:38 ET by Right2thePointHyping Beauchamp, Kerry and all the pretenders.
Sure small kids (unarmed) and women have been victims of this war because the bad guys chose to put them in the line of fire.
Read the milblogs and you will see how much it eats at our troops each time it happens because the other side used them as shields.
Most of the time we will walk away rather than endanger the unarmed.
For each we have taken down by accident there are scores taken out by bombers on the other side intentionally targeting civilian soft targets.
I always enjoy getting the
September 14, 2007 - 17:54 ET by mattmI always enjoy getting the Hollywood bubble-head veiwpoint on geopolitics and economics.
When will this over-the-hill
September 14, 2007 - 18:29 ET by greenfairieWhen will this over-the-hill hag go away?
And shame on Hasselbeck for not standing up to her. I guess she expended her meanie points for the year with that O'Donnell smackdown.
Both my sons served in Iraq
September 14, 2007 - 21:22 ET by rbosqueBoth my sons served in Iraq and neither saw a child die. Does it happen? I'm sure a murderering terrorist with a bomb has killed many. Does Susan blame terrorists who actually target them?
Susan, do you know who kills children by the bushel? When your party lines wonen up at abortion clincs. Those children certainly die.
Thank you
September 15, 2007 - 08:16 ET by Conservative_in_mass.A heartfelt thanks to your boys and family from mine rb...
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
The "disconnect" is between her ears...
September 15, 2007 - 15:38 ET by rx4music"It's this surreal experience of going from this intense environment
where you're just trying to stay alive and you're asked to kill
children and women in order to stay alive. And then you come back into
this world that has no idea what's been going on over there."
I think she sorta hit the nail on the head when she says that they have no idea what's going on over there... I remember my grandparents grilling my father when he came home from his second of three tours in Viet Nam about him being a "baby-killer". I kid you not. They were convinced that he was partaking in rampant murder and mayhem because that's what the lib's had been telling them in the press.
Susan and her ilk are responsible for doing the same thing with this war. The libs are painting with a rather large brush when they point the finger at our troops and basically insinuate that all of them have some form of PTSD or another. AND, I have to wonder about the claim of 55 soldiers a day... That would work out to be about half of all troops deployed if my math is correct (I'd like to see the data they used to get that figure).
Susan, would you and your husband get together with your pal Sean Penn and just go away? Like maybe to Iran or something? Maybe there you are likely to find many who agree with your viewpoint and you could be viewed as a hero/visionary of some sort. Until then, you and your pals remain permanently affixed at the top of the list of Hollywood types who I refuse to spend a penny on...
"Get your facts straight and then you can distort them as much as you please..."- M.Twain
rx4music, Hi, I'm Suzie
September 15, 2007 - 16:38 ET by drillanwrrx4music,
Hi, I'm Suzie Saranwrap ... Iran? Gee, wonder of Tim would like me in a burka ... I think I'd look fab in one!