On Friday night’s "Inside Washington," panelists trashed Ross Buettner’s story in the New York Times playing up a close relationship between Fox News boss Roger Ailes and GOP presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani. Newsweek’s Evan Thomas said "I think this was the New York Times thinking that Ailes is Darth Vader, because they made him out to be this monster who’s given all this time to Giuliani, but the story itself and the graphics supporting it didn’t support the story." Others agreed. "There’s nothing in this story," said columnist Charles Krauthammer. Colby King of the Washington Post scornfully added, "This is exactly why newspapers in trouble," and said they acted like a tabloid. Thomas concluded, "It says more about the paranoia of the New York Times than anything else."
Clay Waters at our New York Times monitoring site TimesWatch dropped his own hammer on the story, with the unique angle of how the Times has almost never noted the friendship and partiality of Rick Kaplan toward Bill Clinton, who served as an executive producer at ABC and then ran CNN during the Clinton era. (He’s now running Katie Couric’s sinking newscast at CBS.) Waters found the Buettner story’s numbers weren’t impressive. The reporter showed that Fred Thompson was not far behind Giuliani in Fox News minutes:
Since the beginning of this year, Mr. Giuliani has appeared for 115 minutes in interviews on Fox. More than half of those minutes, 78, were spent with Mr. Hannity, co-host of the 'Hannity & Colmes' talk show. Mr. Hannity, a conservative who has spoken of his admiration for Mr. Giuliani, makes his own decisions about bookings, a spokeswoman said.
Mr. Giuliani's on-air time was 25 percent greater than that of his Republican competitor Mitt Romney, and nearly double that of Senator John McCain of Arizona. Fred Thompson, who has yet to formally announce his candidacy, came in second to Mr. Giuliani with 101 minutes of Fox interviews.
Hannity has spoken admiringly of Giuliani – and Thompson, and Romney. But Hannity has not endorsed Giuliani, and regularly says the top tier of candidates are these three men. Here’s how the exchange on the local Washington PBS station WETA unfolded, transcript by MRC's Brad Wilmouth:
GORDON PETERSON: There was a piece in the New York Times this week about the amount of time Rudy Giuliani is getting on Fox News, which is run by his buddy Roger Ailes. Evan, did you see that piece?
EVAN THOMAS: Yeah, and I think this was the New York Times thinking that Ailes is Darth Vader because they made him out to be this monster who's given all this time to Giuliani, but the story itself and the graphics supporting it didn't support the story. I don't think there really is any evidence that -- yes, he goes on the Hannity show a lot, Giuliani does, but aside from that, I don't think there's-
PETERSON: He got 115 minutes on Fox, he got seven minutes on ABC, 19 on CBS, six on NBC, and 13 on MSNBC.
MARGARET CARLSON: But that's the difference between cable and a network. I only read the headline of the story, and I came away thinking, well, sure.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: There's nothing in this story. Of all these minutes on Fox, about two-thirds is on Hannity, and Hannity books on his own. So Roger Ailes isn't in the loop. If you compare the minutes that Giuliani has on Fox, he gets less than Biden has on CNBC.
CARLSON: But the great fact in the story is that Roger, Roger went to the wedding. That was the great fact in the story, the third wedding.
COLBY KING: See, boys and girls, this is why-
PETERSON: This sounds like the military thing where Roger Ailes wasn't in the chain of command when he got the 150 minutes.
KING: This is why newspapers are in trouble. This is exactly why newspapers are in trouble. To devote that kind of space to that kind of an issue is, now, people don't want, who read it? Who read it?
THOMAS: It says more about the paranoia of the New York Times than anything else.
CARLSON: Well, I think Rupert Murdoch is not going to stop that if you read the New York Post. He devotes a lot of time to that kind of story.KING: That's the Post, but when another newspaper starts to act like a tabloid, then what do we have? And that's exactly what the New York Times did.
Even Margaret Carlson grasping at the wedding of Giuliani to third wife Judith Nathan is not the strongest evidence of endorsement or political bias. After all, the New York Times itself reported that ABC's Barbara Walters was a guest at the Rudy-Judi wedding, too.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.





EVAN THOMAS: Yeah, and I think this was the New York Times thinking that Ailes is Darth Vader because they made him out to be this monster who's given all this time to Giuliani, but the story itself and the graphics supporting it didn't support the story. I don't think there really is any evidence that -- yes, he goes on the Hannity show a lot, Giuliani does, but aside from that, I don't think there's-















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August 4, 2007 - 08:14 ET by ThisnThat"This is exactly why newspapers in trouble". See? What did I tell you? If blogs like NB would pay more attention, this information about Newspaper bias and stuff could have been exposed much, much earlier.
Shame on NB for being so late on this. Shame.
The NYT has clearly gone
August 4, 2007 - 08:22 ET by BlondeThe NYT has clearly gone off the deep end with this one.
Roger Ailes was at Rudy's wedding? So what?
Giuliani has 14 minutes more coverage on Fox (thus far) than the non-declared candiate Fred Thompson. So What?
How much time has been devoted to the dems by the MsM? That might be a salient point. But not one you'll ever find in the Times. It's a pretty sad commentary when their bad coverage of the news becomes the news.
I liked the Darth Vader theme....if Ailes is now being compared to Dick Cheney, his stock has gone up in my estimation.
And what about You-tube?
August 4, 2007 - 08:38 ET by ThisnThatI wonder why the Times didn't expand its research and look at everyone, everywhere. For example, how much positive exposure have the Dims recevied on You-tube vs. Republicans. When is the Times going to send its minute-counters across the country to compile a complete list?
Sounds a lot like when they were kids. "Mommy, mommy, he got more than I did, it's not fair, and everyone knows it, waaaaahhh".
Here's one for ya, Blonde
August 4, 2007 - 09:07 ET by drillanwrCheck this out:
http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/EricAllie/2007/08/2
Thanks, drill. I loved
August 4, 2007 - 09:11 ET by BlondeThanks, drill.
I loved it. In fact, I think I may have to link that to my "Surge is Suceeding" forum post.
If Dick Cheney won't run....maybe his wife Lynn might entertain it. She's one of my favorites too. She'd be a fine first female CIC.
Once Respected
August 4, 2007 - 08:24 ET by allanfI think the Times deserves the moniker:
The "Times" must be a changin'
August 4, 2007 - 10:04 ET by tomchrisBack in the day a roundtable with these type of columnist would have given some kind of tactical air support to esteemed New York Times. No longer. When a word like "paranoia" is slung around by even someone from liberal-friendy Newsweek and you know that the "Grey Lady" is looking more like a hag in a hawaiian shirt.
If you compare the minutes
August 4, 2007 - 10:20 ET by dscottIf you compare the minutes that Giuliani has on Fox, he gets less than Biden has on CNBC.
Here we go again, the MSM engaging in Projection again. The MSM gives multiple times the amount of air time to Dems, what's really going on here is the palpable fear of the MSM that if the Repubs get equal air time the misinformation campaign the MSM engage in will be negated. Even without the equal air time, due to the ever increasing viewership of Fox News and other balanced news outlets means that shortly, if not already, the combined viewership hours of the MSM and non-MSM are at parity. That means if Fox and the rest of the non-MSM do for Repubs that the MSM does for Dems, the PR war will be won and spell the end of the lib Dem lock on control of the print & media. The NYT is only expressing this angst by engaging in Projection. It's what dysfunctional people and organizations do when they feel threatened, they accuse others of precisely what they do.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
The New York Whines
August 4, 2007 - 10:57 ET by jonathanandersonUntil the Oldpapers around this country start living by these truths they will continue to wax worse and worse ...
Proverbs 13:17
A wicked messenger falleth into mischief: but a faithful ambassador is health.
Proverbs 14:5
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.
Proverbs 25:25
As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is GOOD news from a far country.
Ephesians 4:14-15
(14) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
(15) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
2 Timothy 3:13
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.