Women outraged at Washington Post fashion writer Robin Givhan's article on Hillary Clinton's cleavage on C-SPAN2 are writing angry letters and making angry phone calls to the Post. Several want this kind of private-parts coverage extended to male crotches. In Saturday's Post, the paper printed a pile of outraged letters, including this from Dolores B. Ruth of Annapolis:
I am not a fan of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but I was appalled at the article on her "cleavage." What's next? An article on viewing men's crotches generally or seeing a difference when they are watching her speak?
It's kind of funny to think of the Post setting up pollster Frank Luntz with a focus group and crotch-meters, but it might be a pretty boring event. In her Sunday Ombudsman column today, Deborah Howell explored the controversy at length, but concluded by recounting a phone call:
One last thought: An angry female reader left a shouting voice-mail message, demanding that Givhan do stories on the more private parts of male candidates. Yikes!
Hillary's fans -- even the ones who claim they're not -- do have an amazing defensiveness and are incredibly quick, just as Hillary is, to drag out the Poor Victimized Pioneer routine. I would never have dreamed of writing an article like Givhan's. It was surely a trifle. But these people's faces should illustrate the dictionary entry for "hypersensitive."















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I'm sorry, but weren't we
July 29, 2007 - 21:31 ET by motherbeltI'm sorry, but weren't we already treated to a discussion of Al Gore's "package" when a picture of him wearing a tight pair of jeans appeared on the cover of "Rolling Stone"? That picture was not candid; it was posed. Hillary's decolletage was also planned (one surmises she looked in a mirror at some point.) So why shouldn't people comment on whether it was appropriate, or speculate on their motivation?
PS: seeing a difference when they are watching her speak?
Not going there, not going there, nosiree, not going there....
This country has gotten way
July 29, 2007 - 21:28 ET by bigtimerThis country has gotten way past pathetic with what makes/qualifies a President.
....we are in deep doo doo anymore.
I just shake my head.
They had their male crotch era (old link)
August 22, 2007 - 20:31 ET by SportPoliticsWasn't it slick willie who spead em on the cover of.. what was it Esquire or Rolling Stone ?
As soon as some republican does a smirking crotch spread for the front cover of one of their hip-pop mags, then can have at it.
Um, Tim.... Exactly how
July 29, 2007 - 21:29 ET by BlondeUm, Tim....
Exactly how many is a pile of outraged letters?
Seriously, if this is all HRC and her lemmings have to moan about, this election is OVER.
The WaPo Ombudsman says
July 29, 2007 - 21:41 ET by motherbeltThe WaPo Ombudsman says "thousands" of letters and calls....somehow I doubt that.
mb, I suspect you are
July 29, 2007 - 21:44 ET by Blondemb,
I suspect you are correct. In liberal math...."thousands" translates to about four....maybe five. :)
The real outrage is Hillary
July 29, 2007 - 21:38 ET by BlazerThe real outrage is Hillary showed her cleavage. Yeck!
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
Right, Blazer...when I saw
July 29, 2007 - 23:10 ET by motherbeltRight, Blazer...when I saw the photo, I thought "eeeewww". Givhan was right; NO ONE wants to see that!
Blaze... For me the real
July 29, 2007 - 23:12 ET by bigtimerBlaze...
For me the real outrage was the msm and such pretending like she had a cleavage that was shown.
There was no cleavage shown in my opinion.
If that is cleavage, then I am well endowed.
ROFL....
Its a guy thing bigtimer
July 29, 2007 - 23:14 ET by dagdaIt IS cleavage, not great cleavage, but cleavage none the less. I think guys are better at sussing out cleavage then women are. :)
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Betty Boop sends a message...just for fun.
July 29, 2007 - 23:27 ET by bigtimerOkay dag whatever you say...
This is sent with love from Betty Boop (my avatar) to the gals out here...any gals, watch to the end...since this blog/article is about all of this stuff....politically speakin' of course.
....Boo boop de doop...
thanks bigtime
July 29, 2007 - 23:35 ET by dagdaEnjoyable interlude late on a Sunday evening. :)
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
}}}----> No mountains, just molehills
July 29, 2007 - 21:44 ET by Cool ArrowSeems there was just such a sporting event involving Al Gore's bulge in a Rolling Stone intervies.
Ms Howell doesn't know petty from morass.
Glad to see I wasn't the
July 29, 2007 - 23:09 ET by motherbeltGlad to see I wasn't the only one who remembered that (1st comment above). But I don't remember anyone being outraged by that. That was when Tipper was talking about how "sexy" Al was, and oh, yeah, the tongue-wrestling on TV. Liberals thought that was all pretty cool back then...their guy was a real man, a sexy man, a macho man....
So why get all defensive over comments about Hillary? Is it because they can't play her as sexy and feminine no matter what? Or because, after all these years of somber dressing, they know that suddenly changing her style of dress is obviously phony and a ploy; just another gimmick from the Clinton bag of tricks?
Falsies for men
July 29, 2007 - 21:52 ET by dagdaIf we start crotch-meters for men are we going to have to speculate on whether it is real or not? I remember the famous scene of the band going through airport security in Spinal Tap. The question will be "Is it real or is it a tubesock?"
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Judging for distance
July 29, 2007 - 21:59 ET by dagdaPiggy-backing on the penis envy of the women who want to check out the men crotches, I think they should have a winter who can write their name in the snow contest. This could be a regular election contest from now on. The one that does the best job picks up 10 Electoral votes.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Skin Deep
July 29, 2007 - 22:01 ET by Captain RepusThe difference is that men don't generally flaunt their crotches, not even deliberately for political reasons. Could have been worse - she could have flaunted a thong, what with the proliferation of widescreen tv.
}}}----> A thong?
July 29, 2007 - 22:13 ET by Cool ArrowThtill thinging the thame one
Actually, over the past
July 30, 2007 - 00:38 ET by Del DolemonteActually, over the past decade the far right magazine Rolling Stone featured cover pictures of Al Gore and his predecessor both flaunting their crotches. Of course, it's OK to do so if you have a "D" following you around.
Robin Givhan-Lani Guinier Redux
July 29, 2007 - 22:28 ET by CaringwhiteguyUntil I read this blog I had no idea who Robin Givhan was. I had to check to see if Robin was a man or woman. I now know that in addition to being the WaPo fashion writer Givhan is a minority female. It seems like no minority, male or female had better cross Mrs. Bill Clinton. From Lani Guinier to Barack Obama, supposed friend to supposed foe, no one is safe from the Clinton's hit machine.
Good Lord, could we
July 29, 2007 - 22:34 ET by Dave RGood Lord, could we possibly sink any lower as a nation?
Help Fred defeat everybody.
}}}----> Hold your breath Dave
July 29, 2007 - 22:44 ET by Cool ArrowWe'll sink lower before you need another one.
This whole episode stinks of
July 29, 2007 - 23:38 ET by fitzfongThis whole episode stinks of Clinton, Inc. I'm convinced that Wolfson or one of those hacks planted the seed for this WaPo "fashion article" to stimulate the righteous indignation among Clinton supporters (no pun intended). Hillary's mob is supposed to come out of this thing looking competent in putting out a fire. Hillary is supposed to look like the victim of an unprovoked attack. Net advantage: Clinton, Inc. This story has gone well beyond its sell-by date.
fitz... There is no such
July 29, 2007 - 23:43 ET by bigtimerfitz...
There is no such thing as sell-by date with the leftists...heck they will even use repeats as old as they get, as often as they think needed.
Unfortunately... for those of us that have memories anyway.
Correctomundo bigtimer
July 29, 2007 - 23:45 ET by dagdaThey recycle, hoping we have forgotten. Progessive=liberal=progressive.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
There is no such thing as
July 30, 2007 - 10:38 ET by motherbeltThere is no such thing as sell-by date with the leftists.. -bigtimer
That's true, bt...except when it's bad for the Clintons. then they suddenly decide that it's "old news" and people aren't interested in it; they want to talk about the "future."
Cleavage
July 30, 2007 - 02:05 ET by BritcomWhy does a woman expose her cleavage? Hmmm? I don't know of any male candidates exposing any parts of their bodies below the neckline.
Unless one of the male candidates has been displaying his "plumber's crack" on national television, these women should clam up.
"What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad." - Morpheus
}}}----> Yo Britcom
July 30, 2007 - 03:33 ET by Cool ArrowPerhaps you missed Obama doing his best Bo Derek beach run wearing nothing but trunks?
Oh, I'm sure it wasn't staged. No, no way.
"Everybody get together and we'll push him back into the water."
July 31, 2007 - 13:21 ET by BritcomLOL, I'm glad I missed that one, unfortunatly though, I did see the photo of the Ted Kennedy beaching. He didn't win any votes there that I am aware of.
}}}----> Beach emergency
July 31, 2007 - 13:25 ET by Cool ArrowGreenPeace kept trying to coax Teddy back out to sea.
Okay, I looked at the pics
July 30, 2007 - 03:09 ET by tracheostomyOkay, I looked at the pics in question and I don't see any cleavage. At least not to my standards anyway. Seriously now. Hillary spooks me pretty bad, but what's her campaign manager going to do when they get bombarded with another crack about "pantsuits"? What the hell do you expect them to do?
Hillary Handlers: "Okay, let's do something like I dunno. . .maybe a subtle V-neck thing"
Blogs: "ZOMG! Hillary's a Hooter's girl!!! Cleavagecleavagecleavage!!!"
This entire topic is completely beneath NB's dignity. There's bigger fish to fry around here. When she switches to jacket, tie, and skirt, they'll accuse her of wanting a sex-change.
The reaction to this non-issue is just too extreme.
Edit: Yeah, what Bigtimer said!
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
}}}----> Right on Trake
July 30, 2007 - 03:24 ET by Cool ArrowI'm all in for making jokes about the MSM dither over that woman, but let's move on.
Nothing to see here...move along...please stop laughing.
First off, who
July 30, 2007 - 08:09 ET by BeowulfFirst off, who cares about Shrillary's "cleavage". Then the question is, "What cleavage?" Then, one has to seriously consider where to spew after even thinking about any of Shrillary's body parts. Kinda like gag + vomit = gavomit. Lastly, as to the calls concerning male crotches, they weren't exposing their crotches while Shrillary had whatever she has flapping in view (I have no details - at the first mention of a Shrillary body part being in view I dove under the bed).
If this is such a huge issue in our country's political future, we are indeed in deep doo-doo.
The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers
}}}----> Last call
July 30, 2007 - 08:26 ET by Cool ArrowI don't like Hillary because while she was unelected, in the role of President's Wife, she tried to steal money from me by pushing a nonsense healthcare plan.
I disagree with her politics vehemently now, but playing this non-issue up has the MSM giddy.
Her husband did much to belittle her sexuality during his term as President. I say we stay out of this story before its real intent unfolds before us.
I should hope that there is no change at all....
July 30, 2007 - 13:19 ET by FinePrintIt's obvious that Hillary was showing her cleavage to underscore the fact that she is a woman. Some of us were taught to dress appropriately...some were not. I imagine that the view had a deleterious effect on all but a few men. Enough said.
But "looking at [Presidential candidate's] crotches?" Eeeewwww!
There are NO Accidents with the Clintons
July 30, 2007 - 19:02 ET by drillanwrHillary's "boobage" shot was just as calculated as Bill Clinton's famous "crotch shot" in Esquire magazine.
His was to bank on all those soccer moms who secretly wished they were Monica, while flaunting his blatant infidelity in a "Come on ... You know you want it ..." pose of his defiance.
Hers was to look like the womanized victim, while titillating (pun intended) the Rosie segment of the voting population.