Both CNN and Fox had "punch in" polling. Here were the numbers about midnight:

:                         CNN             FoxNews        TOTALS

McCain                30317             73800           104117

Obama                73250             15300            88550

These results show a few things:

1) for the total of all Democrats and Republicans and Independents, more voted for McCain where the vote ratio was 44% for Obama, but 56% percent for McCain.

2) CNN has a viewership that is mostly Democrats, that is a ratio of 3:1 over Republicans, yet Obama only got 7:3 ratio which, when a common denominator is used, yields 7:3 ratio out of 9:3 proving that many Democrats switched sides, at least when looking at debate performance. (A tie ratio would have been 9:3, but Obama only got 7:3).

3) FoxNews viewship is mostly Republicans, and that ratio is about 7:5 over Democrats according to recent viewer's survey. In this case McCain got a ratio of 3:1 and when the common denominator is changed for comparison we see that with a viewership of 7:5 McCain got a vote of confidence of 15:5 which exceeds a tie of 7:5 by 2 to 1

4) There was of course some independent voters in the mix, so the ratios are not perfect, but still close

MSM is wrong again, but then what's new? The MSM is seldom right any longer.

In fact, I wonder if the MSM is really a communist conspiracy, where ever since the 50's the commies have tried to sway the American public towards socialism, soon to be followed by communism, and they did this with planting journalism majors in American colleges over the years.

That is because this poll is a live poll, the other polls are more real, because they count the dead...since the dead tend to vote Democrat.

Seriously though, the best thing McCain could do is allow Sarah Palin solve the credit crisis...let her live up to her cuda name!

I am hoping for a presidential election much like this;

Final Vote Tally:

McCain: 62%

Obama: 38%

And then, have Democrats try and sue to get more electoral college votes for Obama... that's what I want to see... oh yeah, and mass suicides of the Obamites. 

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"A society that puts equality...ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom." ~ Milton Friedman

How do the AOL straw poll voters usually get to the site?

Here's why I ask.  I'd never gone there until now.  But if it's on the main AOL login page, then we'd need to understand what the AOL user base is these days.  If it's on the AOL homepage, then it's the particular AOL demographic that is doing the voting.  My guess is that this demographic is not the younger voter.  It's likely people who signed up for AOL long ago when it was top dog, and have never changed internet service providers.

Any ideas on that demographic these days?

It looks as if the media is faltering in their efforts to deliver for the big O.

In what may very well be related news there is a head line in the Drudge Report that links to article about how the ratings of all the major season premieres of all the networks have dropped mostly by double digit percentages.

http://www.thrfeed.c...

Following the short article there are HUNDREDS of comment, almost all of them barfing on the networks for their bias and the odious opinions and themes of the Hollywood types behind the shows.  The strong consensus is: “Adios, you jerks, have a nice day.”

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

Since most of the polls I see on AOL tend to skew heavily liberal, I am very surprised to see McCain have such a lead on an AOL poll.

Now I shall go cast MY vote... 

BigSpoon65

Remember that democrats were up big in the polls in the last two presidential elections on the eve of the election.  Following the 04 election there was dismay in the media at how the exit polls had failed.  But they stopped short of questioning the pre-election media polls.  Rasmussen got it wrong, Gallup got it wrong, Zogby got it wrong.  I don't trust any of them.  I also do not believe that conservatives are now a minority in this country.  I believe that is a fallacy being sold by the left-wing media.  Just like most Americans see themselves doing okay financially but believe their neighbors might be struggling.  This is because of the incessant MSM drone about how bad the economy is.  From my perspective the only thing wrong with this economy is the wall street meltdown which was caused almost entirely by democrats control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and all of the sub-prime loans given to people who couldn't afford them.  Free markets didn't fail, socialism failed once again!  The current financial crisis is exactly what happens when democrats are left in charge of anything.  The poll that counts is on November 4th.  

Conservative.....Because we can't all be on welfare!

Drudge's poll numbers matched the exact split of AOL, and that is honestly how the real electorate is breaking.

Want to know the reality?

My Aunt was thrilled with Obama. Came up with racist angles why people weren't voting for him.

After Sarah Palin went on stage. Aunt went silent.

More silence from McCain.

Absolute silence after John McCain trounced Obama in the debate.

The Obama people know they are loosing big and their campaign knows the reality of this too. Unless they commit massive voter fraud which they are attempting now and the Rense voters join the political rape of Gov. Palin as they are now being manipulated to do, that is the only chance in Obama hell for this snowball to even get close enough to get elected.

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Hi everyone, here is my take on all these polls. I truly think
all the national polls i.e. gallup, rasmussen, cnn, fox, etc...are not
reporting the truth. Why not you ask?

NY Time's, LA Time's were both going down hill on the fast track.
MSNBC has/had very weak viewership, all the numbers across the board were
low. The closer this poll is, the more people tune in. The more papers
are sold, the more people tune into to news channels, etc...

How did I determine this? Well, 3 reasons really.

1.) I do a lot of blogging. I've had no life this past month.
;-) I have been on nearly every blog space I can find. Here is what
I have noticed. Several negative commenters against McCain on YouTube are
actually from other countries. I spent one night counting and found for
every 5 negative - 3 were from foreign countries. The other thing I
noticed is the majority are young. Mostly between 15 and 24. I have
also notice a lot have since changed their profile from showing the country to
not showing their country.

2 .) The Bradley affect does not apply to the aol staw poll. When
someone is called by a national pollster, the person on the phone may worry the
caller can identify them via their phone number. They may not be forthcoming
to whom they will actually vote for in the booth. Aol poll is more apt to
have people voting their conscience without fear or being exploited.

3.) I've always been political. I have volunteered to work on
campaigns for over 16 years. My friends all know it and I have lots and lots
of democrat friends that love to argue with me. This year, I can't get a
discussion going. All of my democrat friends have been telling me that
they are voting for McCain. They are even going to so far as to say that
even their parents (I'm in my mid 30's) will be voting democrat for the first
time in their lives! Their reason - Obama scares them! Sure - there are 1
or 2 associates I know that are die hard Obama fans and they have become so
ignorant and nasty to me that I will never speak to them again.

Just to add, I think considering the debate had a low turnout means many
people have already made up their minds and I think most are in favor of
McCain. I think the only people who are in favor of Obama are your far
left, your youth, foreigners who can't vote, and the African Americans.

Just my humble opinion and I hope I am right.
;-)