Huckabee Chairman Ed Rollins on the Wisdom of the Washington Press Corps

By Terry Trippany | January 4, 2008 - 01:08 ET

Chris Wallace and Mike Huckabee campaign chairman Ed Rollins got into it a bit during an interview on Fox News after the announcement that Huckabee took Iowa. During the exchange Wallace had asked Rollins about a blog article that appeared on Townhall.com where Rollins was allegedly overheard bad mouthing Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani.

The blog article must have hit a sore spot as Rollins became defensive in explaining his comments that appeared in the blog entry while confirming that he did indeed say some of the things that were attributed to him. (video at Webloggin)

Wallace took the opportunity to follow up on that answer in an exchange where Rollins became agitated, calling Wallace and the rest of the Washington press corps "wise men", with a final swipe that "all the wisdom doesn't live in the press corps."

Chris Wallace became a bit defensive himself in response. Brit Hume and crew at Fox News Studios had a good time with it, laughing that "It's always good to get an interview with a joyful victor."

The short exchange involved the two talking over each other as Chris Wallace tried to get out a question that eventually led to the following statement by Rollins.

Wallace: The question I'm just asking is have, has he and has you learned anything from those and will he be a more effective campaigner down the road?

Rollins: We learned that the wise men who sit like you and the others and basically said that Huckabee doesn't have a snowballs chance in heck can still go out to the public and make their case so all the wisdom doesn't live in Washington and all the wisdom doesn't live in the press corps. We're very grateful for you giving us the opportunity to go talk to the public but the public is ultimately who gets to make the decisions.

The full transcript was a bit more colorful with Rollins having a couple of tense exchanges with Wallace while discussing the Townhall.com report.

Wallace: Ed, I'm not sure if you're aware of this but you are the subject of a blog on Townhall.com tonight. Someone says they overheard you eating at a restaurant called Winstons. Let me ask you first of all, did you eat at a restaurant called Winstons?

Rollins: I did and the tall beautiful blonde that they are referring to is my wife. We snuck off to have a little lunch today and obviously when you have thousands of thousands of reporters covering it, ah, there was no one else in the restaurant but one woman at another table and obviously she was the blogger. She certainly sat down and took whatever we were saying. It was a private conversation between my wife and I.

Crosstalk as Wallace and Rollins talk over each other

Wallace: Well let me ask you, since she was right so far let me ask you about another couple of things that you allegedly said.

Rollins: She was right. I had carrot cake and (unintelligible) sandwich.

Wallace: Ed it says that you talked about going negative in South Carolina and said "put some good in there if you have to, with the bad. Do what you gotta do." Did you say that?

Rollins: What I, listen it was a private conversation between my wife and I. I talked in terms of South Carolina as a different place. Once again, it was not for public consumption and the reality is Mike Huckabee makes the decisions in this campaign, I don't. It is a more negative statement, were used to those kinds of things. I was talking to her about where this thing goes. She's a political novice and this is a whole new game to her and I don't think that she expected to have our lunch, private lunch, with no one else in a private restaurant sitting there and taking notes at an adjacent table.

Wallace: Unfortunately it isn't private anymore, it is all over the web so I am going to ask you one more question about it.

Rollins: Sure.

Wallace: In quotes you were saying that Rudy Giuliani is “done,” quote “has no money,” and was “hurt terribly by those police cruises with his girlfriends.”

Rollins: I'm happy to confirm that, obviously he has no money, and if you good reporters want to go, go ah talk to the Giuliani campaign they'll tell you that they've been hurt and that they are not raising money.

Wallace: And what about his girlfriends?

Rollins: You can't rai (sic), well he had a girlfriend, it's now his wife. Ah, you know the issue was that the basically sent police cars out to take his girlfriend shopping across the state and I think a lot of people didn't like that and I think a lot of people thought it was a misuse of public property and a misuse of office.

Wallace: You know there obviously were seen bumps in the road over the last week or so and understandably because Huckabee has gone from the longest of long shots to now one could say perhaps the front runner in this race, the foreign policy mistakes,

Rollins and Wallace talking over each other:

Rollins: Well Chris there were obviously some good things

Wallace: Let me just ask you the question and you can answer it sir. Also the fact that he

Rollins: Go ahead and ask the question and I'll be happy to answer it.

Wallace: Ok. You know, foreign policy

Rollins: All of you Chris, all of you guys sat there and said,

Wallace: And also the negative ad that you made and then pulled.

Rollins, No, no

Wallace: The question I'm just asking is have, has he and has you learned anything from those and will he be a more effective campaigner down the road?

Rollins: We learned that the wise men who sit like you and the others and basically said that Huckabee doesn't have a snowballs chance in heck can still go out to the public and make their case so all the wisdom doesn't live in Washington and all the wisdom doesn't live in the press corps. We're very grateful for you giving us the opportunity to go talk to the public but the public is ultimately who gets to make the decisions.

Wallace: Let me just say Ed that I can be accused of a lot of things but we've had Mike Huckabee and he's been happy enough to come on Fox News Sunday many times. I've been reporting his story every step of the way.

Rollins: (talking over Wallace again) I just said we're very grateful, we're very grateful for you giving us the opportunity to take our message across the country, in Iowa.

Wallace: Ed thank you so much, congratulations again tonight.

Rollins: My pleasure. Thank you very much.

Wallace: Brit back to you.

Hume: (laughing) Chris, thanks. It's always good to get an interview with a joyful victor.

Terry Trippany is the editor and publisher of Webloggin where this article is crossposted and discussed further.

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I saw that

Glad you posted it.I use to repect Ed Rollins but that was garbage.Do these politicians and their staff expect journalist to just throw softballs?Maybe they should give Fox a list of questions to ask.I guess Ed mistaked Chris Wallace for Chris Cuomo.

Ed Rollins is a serious

Ed Rollins is a serious scumbage. Read the Townhall blog: http://www.townhall....

The guy certainly has no class what so ever.

Of course, I'm still shocked Gomer Pile won the nod!

Ask Linda Chavez about Ed Rollins

I have had it with people who tagged onto Ronald Reagan's aura act like they gave Reagan the win and simply pedal it to all who listen.

Just ask Linda Chavez in her campaign what a stab in the back bastard Ed Rollins is. She worked for Reagan and should have had an easy win in her run, but Rollins screwed it up deliberately with his big mouth.

Huckabee won because Iowarns are basically a bunch of boobs like people from Nebraska, the Dakotas and now Montana being socialists. They believe any feel good lie you tell them and Huckabee was hiding some whoppers behind that cross.........but he actually did the thing most necessary in embracing Christianity which others were fleeing from.........except Obama.

Gee and he won there too.

I do expect Huckabee to get his wings futher pruned as he heads east and the bare knuckles to knock both Rollins and him off their seats in South Carolina.
He won now and that means real voters are going to be looking at him and unlike the pulpit fest in Iowa, Huckabee is not going to stand up looking like Hillary.

 

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Not a fan of Rollins

I am not a fan of Rollins or Huckabee for that matter, but he does raise a legitimate point. It does not matter whether the media covering the event is biased one way or the other, they have become much too powerful in our political process. One way was by making much too big a deal of Iowa and New Hampshire to begin with. What about the rest of the country? Why don't we get a say in who our party will nominate? I will tell you. It is because the press covers the horse race and not the candidates. By focusing on polls and fund raising they have completley skewed any possible honest assesment by the American people. A responsible press would not do this. It is a well understood fact that if you say someone is behind they will find it more difficult to get anyone to listen to them. It is the job of the press to report on the candidates and thier positions, not to judge a horse race.

I agree.  So what about

I agree.  So what about what Rollins said.  Who amongst us doesn't on occasion do what he did.  What's next, someone overhearing a pol arguing with his wife or teenager, and telling the MSM, who then publicizes it.  

I say enough of what an older brother used to call "crap talk."   And I don't need to be reminded that everyone is human.  Pols too.  Geez.  Talk about trivial matters.

Rollins: We learned that

Rollins: We learned that the wise men who sit like you and the others and basically said that Huckabee doesn't have a snowballs chance in heck can still go out to the public and make their case so all the wisdom doesn't live in Washington and all the wisdom doesn't live in the press corps. We're very grateful for you giving us the opportunity to go talk to the public but the public is ultimately who gets to make the decisions.

Ahem, is it true that no Repub candidate that wins the Iowa Caucus goes on to win the presidency or nomination?  Sorry Rollins, but in this case, according to historical standards, Huckabee has won the boo-bee prize. It seems that the yoke is on you and you don't realize it. Now it's time to get serious with the nomination process. <sarcasm>

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.

A quick run to Wiki shows

A quick run to Wiki shows this about the track record of the Iowa Caucus for Repubs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucus

  • 2004- George W. Bush (unopposed)
  • 2000- George W. Bush (41%), Steve Forbes (30%), Alan Keyes (14%), Gary Bauer (9%), John McCain (5%), and Orrin Hatch (1%)
  • 1996- Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%), and Morry Taylor (1%)
  • 1992- George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
  • 1988- Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%), Jack Kemp (11%), and Pete DuPont (7%)
  • 1984- Ronald Reagan (unopposed)
  • 1980- George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%), John Connally (9%), Phil Crane (7%), John B. Anderson (4%), and Bob Dole (2%)
  • 1976- Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan
  • Only Reagan and W won the caucus and then went on to win the presidency.  And of those 3 times, 2 of them the candidate was unopposed for re-election.  It seems that W was the only one ever on the Repub side to win Iowa and then go on to win the nomination.

    The Caucus system is a fatally flawed method that skews the entire process and needs to be dumped.  Given that Democrats were the ones who came up with this method in the first place should tell you something of it's true intent, brokering.  The Repubs foolishly replicated the system on their side to whose benefit I ask?

    Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.

    Chris Wallace is a punk.

    He asks a National Enquirer type gossip question, and then tries to make himself the victim after he gets bitch-slapped by the person he just tried to cheap shot on national television.

    Ed Rollins...

    Did a good job. This was a private conversation with his wife first of all. Second he did thank Chris for letting him and his candidate come on so many times. I think Chris didn't even hear what he was saying he was just thinking about what his next question was going to be. I liked what Ed had to say..."All the wisdom doesn't come from the press.." Ultimately the voters make the decisions. The press hate it that the voters get to do that...I mean, after all, what do we know except what THEY tell us?