CNN Shows Us How We Are Reliving 1968 in 2008

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something'shappeningDid you know that we are reliving 1968 again? George W. Bush is like Lyndon B. Johnson, unpopular. Iraq is like Vietnam, unpopular. The civil rights movement is represented in Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton's historic candidacy parallels the women's movement. The energized youth voting in this primary is comparable to the college students protesting Vietnam in 1968. Well, that's what a program titled, "Something's Happening Here: Over the Last 40 Years, How Has the Presidential Election Changed?" on CNN told me.

It fascinates me that this news program so brazenly wants to suggest what is happening today is comparable to the turbulent times of 1960s. Also, they eagerly want to associate Iraq with Vietnam. It's almost if they want us to be more anxious about our current times. In fact Campbell Brown, the host, tells us in the beginning that we're an anxious nation just like in 1968. She says, "Now fast-forward 40 years. It is June 2008, another unpopular president, another unpopular war, anxiety and impatience, a new generation energized, all around the sense that we have reached a turning point. It's an election that could change the world." Really, we are anxious and impatient? What proof does she have of that?

Brown also takes a cue from Barack Obama's campaign motto when she describes this election as one that "could change the world. " We are living through the 1960s all over again so we need Barack Obama to come in and change things seems to be the basic theme of the show.

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The show goes on to compare to compares Vietnam to Iraq. They interviewed
Sen. Chuck Hagel (R- Neb), a Vietnam veteran, to discuss the parallels
between the wars. He's been vocal about his disapproval of the Iraq war and
back in 2000 he supported Sen. McCain's presidential bid but is not doing so
this year. To his credit, Sen. Hagel, did highlight the enormous differences
between the two wars. Here's the partial transcripts:

BROWN: More than 4,000 U.S. troops have died in Iraq. Vietnam was a much longer, much deadlier war -- 1968 alone saw some 16,000 American deaths.

At the beginning of the year, Robert Kennedy complained that a total military victory was neither in sight, nor around the corner. The war was tearing America apart.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SEN. CHUCK HAGEL (R), NEBRASKA: 1968, that was the big buildup year, 550,000 troops in Vietnam. And our leaders kept telling the American people light is at the end of the tunnel. We have turned the corner. We are about there. And, in fact, that wasn't the case.

SCHNEIDER: In 1968, Americans were being drafted in large numbers. And that really created turmoil and anger and real fury, rage on college campuses.

CROWLEY: Vietnam undid Lyndon Baines Johnson. Clearly, he would have liked to have run. He wanted to run. But the streets were just seething.

HAGEL: Today, we have all-voluntarily army. Very few people have any direct contact with the consequences of that war. That's why you don't see million man marches in Washington, like we did in Vietnam.

Why even devote a whole program associating the two if they themselves conclude they are completely different?

Since they were on the topic of 1968 and presidential campaigns they could have discussed the fact that John McCain was a POW during this time. Instead, it's only mentioned briefly and then leads to a discussion about how other senators who served in Vietnam have turned on the war in Iraq, except John McCain. Here's the transcript of that conversation:

BROWN: But, to that point -- let me ask David this one question, because, you know, in 1968, John McCain was a POW. He was not a part or aware in any sense of the turmoil that was happening in this country at the time.

How does that affect his view in this time in terms of the way he campaigns and also the point that Jeff just made?

GERGEN: Well, let me promote something else.

And Matt Bai, I thought, had a fascinating...

(CROSSTALK)

GERGEN: No, it's a fascinating piece in "The New York Times" magazine of the -- I think three weeks ago or so -- in which he argues that the other Vietnam veterans who are in the Congress, like Chuck Hagel, and John Kerry, and Jim Webb, have all turned against the war in Iraq, in part because, during Vietnam, they were -- they were fighting in Vietnam. They turned -- they saw how badly the war went. And they have soured on it.

And now they have soured on this war, whereas John McCain, in the Vietnam War, was actually imprisoned and missed out on all the demonstrations. He missed out on the souring. He came out of that experience thinking, we should have won Vietnam. We just didn't stick in there. We just didn't fight it right. We didn't have the right strategy.

And, therefore, in Iraq, it's a question of hanging in there, that we have got to persevere. And that's why he's broken with these other these other veterans of Vietnam, who actually were in the jungles.

The article Gergen references is called "The McCain Doctrines," written by Matt Bai. In the article Bai theorizes that because McCain was "sealed away" so he wasn't as disillusioned about the war like the other veterans. After reading the piece one is left to conclude that the Arizona senator didn't learn the lessons from Vietnam. Also, Campbell Brown infers in her question that Sen. McCain didn't see all the protest going on back home during Vietnam, therefore, it doesn't give him an accurate assessment of what was going on.

The show then delves into race relations and the women's right movement. Since there has been social progress in those areas in the last forty years the panelists are only left to conclude there must be a another social issue we must address immediately. What is that issue? Gay rights, of course! Here's how that conversation went:

TOOBIN: There's a little parallel here, and I think it's gay rights. Gay rights is ascendant now in a way that women's rights was in the '60s.

The differences about gay rights and gay marriage are tremendously
generational. Young people, they think it's obvious. Old people are still made very uncomfortable by it, and I think that is clearly a matter of time for that cause to be much more popular.

GERGEN: Yes. It isn't the one barrier that seems to be still out there, but do we all agree that Hillary Clinton did not lose this because she was a woman?

TOOBIN: I totally agree with that.

No one in the panel mentions that neither Barack Obama or John McCain support gay marriage. However, they do differ on the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy adopted by the military. Sen. McCain supports it. Sen. Obama wants it repealed.

So what is the overall message of the special program? We are living in historic times. We need societal change and quickly.

View the first ten mnutes of the program here.


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Can we all just be hippies?

Yeah, fast  forward to 2008, when the msm has given up all pretenses of simply reporting the news and instead relentlessly shapes it to their own unified agenda.

Flat Gareth says it best:

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=4 

and then there's all the

and then there's all the great new protest music - hanna montana, cheetah girls...

"Ridin' the rails"

...and how did we ever get by without gansta' rap?

and what happened to hobos and bums? Oh wait, I know... they're now the 'disenfranchised' and 'underemployed'.

I guess you'd have to be a pretty awesome hobo to jump an Acela, tho 

yes, how many times must a

yes, how many times must a RINO grab the ankles

before they get a fair MSM...? 

 

the answer my friend

is texting in the wind

the answer is dumping to my spam

  you know conservitives

 

you know conservitives ARE the "counter culture" today....we hold views NOT in the mianstream.  

We are rebeling against 'The Man" only today "The Man" wants us top drive hybrid cars, use corn for fuel. 

 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
 -Gerald Ford

Some of that 60's "free

Some of that 60's "free love" would be okay; but, I refuse to wear bell-bottoms ever again.

Sorry, that's gone forever.

Sorry, that's gone forever. As P. J. O'Rourke put it, "the sexual revolution is over, and the microbes won."

And the Left Based Congess

And the Left Based Congess wants a repeat of failure in the war. Leave it to them and we will witness another pull-out like we did in Vietnam. And we will witness another take-over of Iraq similar to the take-over by the Communist North Vienamese of  South Vietnam. But it is a good possibility that it will be their baby by the time that their 'empty suit' is in office for a year and their current 'do nothing' Democrat led Congress continues to flounder. But their  buffer is the Left-Main Stream Media will help them avoid flack by soft peddling their responsibility of the situation.

 

Liberalism is a terminal state of mind.

Yep. Something's happening

Yep. Something's happening here, and it certainly isn't viewers.

Part of the Leftist Plan

Part of the Leftist Plan.  This link explains it all!

American Thinker: The Audacity of the Democrats

Does this mean William

Does this mean William Ayres will be blowing up more buildings?

These people are stupid.

These people are stupid. The thought process that assumes Mac was not exposed to any and all propaganda and demoralizing information from the US is insane. Mac saw it all, it was drumed into his skull with constant banter over loud speakers. Quotes and pictures and films. Anything that was anti war in the US, was used as a club on those guys.They even knew of the draft dogers going to Canada. Knew of VVAW and their rantings and lies. Better yet, they were tortured for the lies that Kerry and other so called "vets" confessed to.

Morons! Every single one of em.

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another unpopular

another unpopular president, another unpopular war, anxiety and impatience, a new generation energized, all around the sense that we have reached a turning point. It's an election that could change the world."

Didn't the Republican win in 1968?

Oh what was his name again.. it's on the tip of my tongue... but the energized youth of America all voted that guy in, whatever he was called.

Recreate 68!!!!! 

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

Yeah wasn't he tanned,

Yeah wasn't he tanned, relaxed, and ready.

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"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we can not resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary." -Sister Lucia

Hubert Humphry (D) lost to

Hubert Humphry (D) lost to Richard Nixon (R) in the 1968 presidential election.

Funny they forgot to mention that.

So by all means, keep wishing for 1968 again, my Liberal activist journalists.

From South Park, Season 8, Episode 8:

Cartman:  Vote for Turd Sandwich. This is the most important election of our lives.  Turd Sandwich brings us hope for change. A vote for Turd Sandwich is a Vote for Tomorrow!

Stan:  No, I think voting is great, but, if I have to choose between a douche and a turd, I just don't see the point.

Balding Man:  But Stan, don't you know, it's always between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Nearly every election since the beginning of time has been between some douche and some turd. They're the only people who suck up enough to make it that far in politics.

Butters:  A turd sandwich is not only the first turd to be nominated school mascot, but even the first sandwich.

Cartman:  You see, what Turd Sandwich brings to our school, Clyde, is a complete package. The turd and the bread. And the lettuce, and the olives.

Butters:  Whe-whereas Giant Douche is just, well, ju-just a, ju-ju-just a giant douche.

Stan:  I learned that I'd better get used to having to pick between a douche and a turd sandwich because it's usually the choice I'll have.

(To entire episode go to http://allsp.com/l.php?id=e119.)

Somehow this all seems so familiar this election cycle.

RRAM Tough! 

Was 1968

Was 1968 just before or just after Barack Obama's best friends (and neighbors now) Billy Ayers and Bernie-and-the-dettes Dohrn tried to blow up the Pentagon and kill police officers?

Oh, I forgot. BO was only 8 or 4 or something in 1968 so he couldn't possibly remember. Kinda like John McCain not having the privilege of actually participating in the protests because he was sequestered with many of his friends enjoying all that life with the communists had to offer.

You CNNers are sick! 

Yawn.  The typical

Yawn.  The typical burnouts who miss the 60's doing the news. These idiots have grown up- but never matured.

 

 

 

"Thank God I am young enough, that I shall see the 60's Anti American leftist "worst generation" Expire- overtaken by the Reagan Babies.......soon"

Thanks, but no thanks!

Exactly, this is just liberal Boomer historical histrionics, myopically reliving their salad days and narcissistically trying to take us all along for the ride. Thanks, but no thanks!

I agree

I agree with you two, this is just one more Viet Nam Days redux. Their only moment of triumph was to run away from a war that might get them hurt and in the process cause the deaths of millions in Southeast Asia. I'd be embarassed to associate myself with such a world scale debacle of death, but not these self centered cowards. They've been rerunning the script right from day one in the first Iraq war - Desert Storm.

They are unable to achieve greatness, so they attack anyone or anything that might go down as Great in the history books.

Campbell's Soup

According to Wikipedia, Campbell Brown was born on June 14, 1968, the daughter of a Democrat state politician from Louisiana.  So her earliest recollections are not the 1960's, but of the disco era.

Having lived through the 1960's I don't need some media nitwit telling me what the 60's were like.  To me the 1960's were the most overrated decade that caused great harm to the fabric of our society.

Groovy.

Never trust a liberal over 30. 

The 60's were great! Look

The 60's were great! Look at the cars we got back then. Classic lines and they sounded like no other car sense. You cant get that sound out of a car today. Pure Muscle!

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I'll Give You That

True enough.  My first car was a 1969 Pontiac GTO.  Oh the memories I have of that car.  It was awesome.

400 engine with a 4 barrel carburetor.  It wasn't the Judge model, but was still awesome.  Dual Thrush mufflers.  Just idling the engine sounded awesome.

Plus you could work on engines in those days.  Now you open the hood and you can't tell where to begin.

The 60's cars are

The 60's cars are nostalgic, but the new crop has them beat in terms of power confort and economy.  Sound is easy to get out of a car.  I seem to remember getting a fair amount of warnings for my Mustang for loud noise.  The new stang is much nicer and more powerful than teh Boss or Cobra or 428 jet ever was.  Even the 427 pales in comparison and teh newer vettes are the best.

Do you remember the fact most of teh really powerful muscle cars had no a/c and they made enough noise to deafen you and your passengers?

That all said I would really like a 383 69/70 Cuda with a 6 pack, even though it would spend 6 times as much in the shop as on teh street.  And tuning the 6 pack was like playing a violin for the Philharmonic, very exacting work only teh best could do.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

You sir, are smoking

You sir, are smoking crack!

There once was an engine, the Chrysler 426 Hemi.  It was routine for street legal, normally aspirated versions of this engine to deliver 750 HP at the dynomometer.  The blower equipped versions could top 1250 HP.

There is nothing on the street these days that is any more powerful than this motor was.  The advantages the newer designs have are improved fuel consumption figures and less weight per HP.

You miss the point, the

You miss the point, the idea is that yes working the engine over would get you close to 500 HP at teh rear wheels (not 750) but they were very finicky and very pricy.  They had no creature conforts either and forget feeding them at 5 bucks a gallon for 100 octane.  The newer crop of cars is much better than the old ones are or ever were.

Yes you can still hop up an engine to produce ungodly amounts of HP, in fact today it can be done safer and more reliably than in our day.  600 HP from 200 cubes in short bursts with creature conforts is possible.  Dont think any 60's cars were like that.  1000 HP from everyday drive rat motors is possible with todays tech.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Maybe I should have been

Maybe I should have been clearer. Chassis dynamometer.

You do know what a dyno is don't you? When one of these says 750 HP, you get 750 HP. Let's be clear about a couple of other things: Do you know what a wheelie bar is? The car in question both had and needed one.

Do you understand the implications of a 9.9 range ET in the 1/4 mile?  I doubt seriously there are more than a handful of street cars in production today that can do that, even this beast, which is not any sort of car an ordinary person could afford. The big block Hemi could do it on a plebian budget in a shape that amounted to a standard business sedan, albeit with fuel that is no longer available at the pump.  In fact, the 1/4 mile performance of this limted production Bugatti is about the same as the Hemi.  They claim 150 / 9.8.   IIRC, my car was clocked at 147 / 9.9.   There is only one place these new cars blow away the old muscle cars:  handling.  Suspension design has gone through a revolution since the 60's. Today's family sedan now has better handling characteristics than the sports cars of the 60's.

As for HP ratings over 1000,  I was referring to blower-equipped Hemi's.  Blower = mechanically driven supercharger.  ==> dragster power.  Alcohol, Nitrous Oxide or Nitro Methane fuel additives.  You aren't going to tell me these didn't exist in 1969, are you? 

I had a '71 Hemi 'Cuda

I had a '71 Hemi 'Cuda convertable. Traded a '69 SS Camaro/396 with solid lifters and pushing 375 horses. The Hemi and the Camaro both had a richer sound than you get from the cars today. Something about a carb and exaust valves that todays cars dont match. I wish I would have kept that car. Give my eye teeth to have it back, today. I've had 2 69 Chevells, both SS. One of them had AC, but I never used it. In my younger years, I never needed it.

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Hey Bass, I once owned a '69

Hey Bass, I once owned a '69 Charger with 426 Hemi. When I got done 'enhancing' it, it could turn 9.9 ETs. The only car I could not beat out of the hole was the VW Beetle. That car had the best acceleration out of the hole on the road. It always took about 50 feet to get back to even with one.

I loved that 'Cuda. The Hemi

I loved that 'Cuda. The Hemi was ruler of the road, back then. And it would be again. The Road Runners, 'Cudas, Chargers and Challengers were great cars. And I dont think there is a car on the road that can compare to the Hemi muscle back then.
 

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Fastest top end car I ever

Fastest top end car I ever ran into was a '70 Plymouth Superbird.  426 optimized for high end speed.  I don't know how fast that guy's car was but he had more top end than I did.  My best guess is that car would do about 215.   My rear-end was a 4:11 for smoking acceleration.  I think his must have been 3:56 or 3:26 gears.

My Hemi toped out above the

My Hemi toped out above the speedometer. It would cruise all day up around 125 or 130. I think the Superbirds were designed as a road car. For running the high ways. And they were really good for it.

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My friend's 1970 Chrysler

My friend's 1970 Chrysler 300 Hurst.  It's like riding on your couch in your living when you go for a drive.

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/your_garage/cars/1029.shtml

http://www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs/pages01/chry7002.htm

RRAM Tough! 

My 2 favorite that I owned

My 2 favorite that I owned were the 67 Cutless Convertable with the 330 Jetfire engine 320hp(my first car) and a 67 Fury III Converable, with the 383. Fixed them both up perfectly and sold them, for about half of what they go for today. : [ . We are currently working on a 74 AMC Javlen w/360, thing flies like a kite.

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

That Javlen came with a 390

That Javlen came with a 390 to. Rode in one once. It was quick. Another motor that could be coaxed into high hp output was the 327. Small block, short stroke could turn some quick quarter miles.  

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My wife is correct.

Any topic sooner or later turns to cars.  Or we all have some form of ADD.

That right, they also came

That right, they also came with a 401 usually the AMX. This one has the vinyl top all of the extra chrome trim, it was the loaded version. We have redone the suspension to help it handle better, these cars have know weight in the rear and they understear terribly, but not this one, not any more. 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I've had three Cutlass

I've had three Cutlass Convertibles - 68, 70 and 71.  All 350 4-barrel V8's.  Still have the 71 but it hasn't been out for 16 years and needs a little work.

Had other ragtops but the Cutlass has been my sentimental favorite.

RRAM Tough! 

RRAM tough! And you drove

RRAM tough! And you drove an Olds? Rather degrading isint it? :-)

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RRAM - Ruthless Republican

RRAM - Ruthless Republican Attack Machine

RRAM Tough - Play on words (Dodge Ram Tough)

I miss the Gutless on days like today.

Then I think about 20 gallons of Premium leaded gas to fill the tank and how little time it takes to burn it up when you stomp on the pedal to open up all 4 barrels and let the G's push you back in the seat.

Then again, isn't that the purpose of that engine?  ;-)

Yeah, howdy!

 

RRAM Tough! 

4 barrels? I was feeding 8

4 barrels? I was feeding 8 with 4 fuel pumps! Never used unleaded in my "Cars". Only Premium leaded :-)
 

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Can't argue with

Can't argue with that!

Those were the days.  Glad we got to experience them.

There still are some autos with balls, but a tricked out Ford Focus just doesn't seem the same as your 71 Hemi Cuda!

Eat my dust, punks.  :-)

RRAM Tough! 

There is no feeling like

There is no feeling like that of the deep rumbling exaust of raw power under your hood.

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Amen to that, my

Amen to that, my friend.

RRAM Tough! 

Great cars those old

Great cars those old Olds 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Campbell Out of Control?

I realize that Campbell Brown is nothing but on air talent - a performer.  Yet she is married to Dan Senor, the former coaltion spokesman in Iraq.

It does not speak well for Dan Senor or the Administration that Campbell makes such brazen comparisons in public. 

It's called a flashback.

It's called a flashback.

no, no, flash forward

In her case (being born in '68) I think it's a flash forward?

mattm - flashback? Try re-write..

mattm - flashback? Try re-write... of historical perspective. (;~> gary

"re-write... of historical

"re-write... of historical perspective."  LSD will do that for you.... : )

One can only hope...

....that the Dems will stage a re-enactment of the 1968 Chicago convention in Denver.  Unfortunately I think the Left is planning it for the Republicans in St. Paul.

Naw - Kerry was in the bandaid jar..

Well, there's this view..

..John Kerry ... all turned against the war in Iraq, in part because, during Vietnam, they were -- they were fighting in Vietnam.

and there's this view..

Purple Heart News - Rear Admiral William Schachte speaks

Personally, I'm not very comfortable in questioning Kerry's war service.. or rather, I would not be if the media had any sense of fairness in who they decide to worship (those they support) vs. their willingness to peel the layers apart in the effort of destroying those they do not support.

Kerry did his best trying to get out of going to Nam. Power to him.

Kerry did his best trying to get out of Nam, once he got there, power to him.

But then, he trashed his country and the souls of the others (brave and scared men that they must have been) who served and did their best. And then he trashed the few who questioned him, while remaining silent while his people and the MSM left no stone unturned as they went after Geroge Bush's National Guard record.

And now the media is chipping away at the layers in Sen. McCain's honorable service - as they have done before (and with other Republicans).

He wasn't fighting, like Kerry was fighting? Give us a break - John McCain was fighting ever day of his life, thru immense physical and emotional trama to survive the fight of all fights.

And our MSM is Dan Rathering him?

I'll do it, buddy!

   20 year Navy vet here.

   Kerry got 3 glory wounds that never cost him a day of work. At least one, maybe more, of the purple hearts medals were submitted by him. And one may have been accidentally self inflicted.

   

unpopular war?

what war was ever popular while it was being waged? War isn't popular or unpopular. War is necessary or unnecessary. If MSM is stupid enough to think that we should still be sitting here waiting for Saddam/and his two demon spawn to play games then no one should pay any attention to anything they have to say ever again.

Somethin's happenin' here

That somethin' is aging baby boomer protesters who thought they made a difference are now facing their mortality. They have never faced up to the fact that those who followed (the 'tweeners and genXers) thought they were a bunch of idealistic dreamers who nonetheless still "sold out" for materialism and personal security.

They are trying to redeem their idealism by projecting themselves upon the latest generation coming-of-age. My experience shows this new generation are no more interested in idealism than the previous two. The baby-boomer media desperately wants a new '68 generation to pass the torch. I think they selectively find the "involved" and "engaged" young people who their fulfill tunnel-vision wish for societal change, while ignoring the vast majority who don't really give a damn.

Sure, young people are attracted to Obama. He's comparitively young, he talks young people things. Young people are natually socialistic. It's not surprising that he has the overwhelming support of young people. John Anderson was popular in 1980 among the young but you'll remember how big an impact that made.

Yeah, and just like in the

Yeah, and just like in the sixties, the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, it's the liberals now who are hell bent on tearing down the positive structures and institutions of our society that made us a free and successful nation.

I saw the majority of this

I saw the majority of this show late last night...

Definitely barf-bag time.

I am so sick of the networks and cable shows agenda already, it will be worse before election day..if they can, which they have been trying in vain to do anyway, they will have tons of people out marching/rioting/spitting on our returning soldiers like they did during the Vietnam war era...which Campbell and a lot of reporters have no real clue about...matters not, they have an agenda...and by golly one way or the other they are going to see it through.

Despicable....all of them. 

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson