but that goes only so far as to fit their agenda.  I really can see government stepping in to make churches marry gay people calling it unconstitutional to deny them that.

I'm pretty much of the opinion "The way of the transgressor is hard"

If I slug down 20 cokes a day I should expect Diabetes.

If I drink to excess I should expect cirrhosis.

If I rob homes I should expect incarceration or a violent death.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

If Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and John McCain’s minister Rev. John Hagey say that God drowned the Sodomites in New Orleans, that’s good enough for me.  You can bet the chickens will be soon coming home to roost in the Sodom kingdom of California, too.  Let’s pray that the good people of California vote against gay marriage and give the Sodomites the drubbing they deserve before God punishes all of them with a chicken roost catastrophe unseen before in the annals of mankind.

no problem's with gay marriage is this guy's belief, dude - but why does he want to impose it on us:)?

If God forbid your wife gets run over by a bus tomorrow, you're automatically the guy who gets to visit her in the hospital, decide on treatments with the docs, make funeral plans if needed, oversee estate matters if she's intestate, and all sorts of other things (including some not-so-good ones, like pay a marriage penalty in your taxes!!) all because you're married to your partner.

If a mere business partner gets run over by a bus, it's not the same situation at all, especially if the business partner's family objects to the partnership, as is often the case because this is such an emotional issue. And notice: even though I don't use the word "marriage" for them, the termination of these hypothetical contracts would have to be governed by divorce law precedents, which would make divorce lawyers richer. Something for everyone to hate...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

I just KNEW you had a tailpipe or two in your past, Bal!

Indulging a sexual deviancy is a tremendous hurdle to providing a loving, stable home for a child.  To the contrary, it develops an environment where a child will at least accommodate such deviancies (whatever they might be), and at most indulge in deviancy as a personal choice.

Let me ask you a non-religious question: Given two societies, one with heterosexuality as the exclusive norm and one with homosexuality as the exclusive norm, which one will survive to the second generation?

--Mike

www.thebrattonreport.com

misterb...No...do you have a link?

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Dear, good friends---I may have overstated my feelings because I am so tired lately. When I said adios--I meant for the evening and for the subject. I participate at three sites, NB, Alipac and Firesociety. I asked BT if she had seen Joe Farah's column. It is radical, in a sense, so I must be too. Why?? Because I agree with it completely.

I woke at 4AM and I cannot get back to sleep, so I opened NB and found your great comments. I truly appreciate them. When I was a young man in MA in the 60s, I was in the middle of America's love fest with John F. Kennedy. A good number of my friends were recipients of the Kennedy machine's control. Government jobs and the like. That in itself was not a problem, the blind loyalty to the machine and  the mindless adulation were a problem (to me). I could go on and on about it, but what it boils down to me is---doesn't anyone look behind the curtain??? Why instant forgiveness for Teddy??? What qualified Bobby to be the Attorney General of the USA?? Is this Saudi Arabia where we appoint family to all key government positions??? That is when I switched political parties and became a Republican. I also remember an article in anewspaper friendly to Kennedy where it said that his first hundred days resulted in less accomplished than any other President save Millard Fillmore. And the adulation went on. Since that time, we, the voters, the Republican voters have been told how to vote (so too , have the Democrat voters). The basic reason is for one's party to hold the power to ensure we have "better" government. Bush's administration has done some things better and some things worse. We have been told, (both parties), that to vote for a third party candidate is a "wasted" vote, a vote "thrown away".

Forgive me, but this smacks of the same logic as standing behind the Kennedy machine. I believe every person should vote for the candidate that they believe to be the best American, the person who will do the most good for America at large. We don't. We vote, very often for the person who will do us,. individually, the most good. Farmers vote for officials who will continue the farm subsidy program. Unions vote for the person who will try to pass legislation most favorable to unions.

Yes, yes, I know, what is so surprising about that??? Nothing, but how can anyone ask how we got to where we are today with our elected officials?? We are to blame. I have crossed over many times and voted for candidates in the other party because I thought they were better for the community, the country. I have been wrong a few times. But I exercised what I believe to be, my duty to vote for the person who would be better for America, not just me.

So, call me naive, call me a fool, perhaps I am. I am not wealthy. I never wanted to be the highest level, most powerful person at any level of my life. I volunatrily took a pay cut twice in my career, to work at jobs I liked rather than jobs that paid the most. Am I an anchronism??? I think not. You see one of the blessings of living in and being an American is freedom (as distinguishable from liberty).

Freedom to do or be what I want. Freedom from the expectations of others that say that one should be a doctor, lawyer, accountant, when one would rather work with one's hands, or fix electronics or drive a bus or do whatever keeps them happy while providing them with sustenance. Illegal immigration has removed a lot of these freedoms from Americans today.

Back to the main theme. Now I sit here and I read denials of the efforts of a group called the SPP. I see city, county, state and the federal governments depriving Americans of their rights in favor of minority groups, many of whom are here illegally. I see the destruction of the fabric of family, abortion (murder to me) at will, a loss of the sense of shame. Children bearing children, a society that has stolen childhood from our children. I ask any of you to stop for a moment and think back to the joys of youth. It was a world more innocent, a world where we were allowed to believe in Santa Claus for a few more years than kids today. 

I have gone on for a while here. You can some of the things I see through the eyes(words) of an older person. I am sad to say that many older people I know are disconnected.They do not have a clue as to what is happening in and to their country. They are sheeple, they follow the party line. They trust politicians at a time in our history when they are least deserving of trust.

I am tired of being told I am "wasting" my vote if I do not vote for McCain, I am tired of being told Obama will win if I vote for a third party. I guess I have, among the sites I visit, seen enough comments of this type to just wear me down. I will vote for the person who is a strong supporter of my Constitution. I will vote for the person who appers to be the best American. I may be worng, I have been before,but by God, I am being an American.

I post here the link  to Joe Farah's column:

I do not ask you to agree, I only ask you to read it.

In essence, I believe that a third party candidate may have a significant effect in restoring us to the American basics. Good heavens, that's why they exist, because of the collapse of our values over the years. And, although I am not a dedicated Ron Paul supporter, I do believe his value system more closely matches mine and my ego says that I am a true American. I believe Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin to be far better Americans than Joghn McCain or the two socialists still competing for the Democratic slot.

Over the next few months, the information I learn will help me make my final decision as to my choice for President. Whatever happens, my vote will not have been "wasted", in my opinion.