Matthews Slimes: John Roberts Doesn't Want to be Like Slave Judge Behind Dred Scott
According to liberal MSNBC anchor Chris Matthews, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts being the fifth vote to strike down Obamacare would make him the "second Roger Taney," the Civil War-era high judge who delivered the majority opinion in the Dred Scott Case and upheld the Fugitive Slave Act.
Talking to columnist Ezra Klein, Matthews smeared, "...A friend of mine, who is a fellow Roman Catholic said, he doesn't want to be the second Roger Taney." Matthews added, "Roger Taney, of course, was a Roman Catholic who upheld the Fugitive Slave Law back before the Civil War and was villainized throughout history because of that." [See video below. MP3 audio here.]
According to Matthews, Robert doesn't want to "do something so egregious as to strike down something that's passed with 60 Senate votes, with a majority in the House and signed by the President with the full mandate of the American people reflected in the election of 2008."
On Monday, the Hardball host mocked this "most conservative Supreme Court."
He then made another historical smear, speculating, "I wonder whether this court would have backed desegregation in the Brown case? I doubt this pack of conservatives, which includes Chief Justice John Roberts, Sam Alito, and Anthony Kennedy, would have voted to knock down separate by equal back in the 1950s."
A transcript of the June 27 exchange can be found below:
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CHRIS MATTHEWS: You know, one other concern here, Ezra, a friend of mine, who is a fellow Roman Catholic said, he doesn't want to be the second Roger Taney. Roger Taney, of course, was a Roman Catholic who upheld the Fugitive Slave Law back before the Civil War and was villainized throughout history because of that. That he doesn't want to do something so egregious as to strike down something that's passed with 60 Senate votes, with a majority in the House and signed by the President with the full mandate of the American people reflected in the election of 2008. To strike down something like that really does seem radical. My question to you is, do you think he suffers that same fear either of those fears that he is just too radically conservative- his court will look that far or he doesn't want to go down individually as the guy that struck this thing down?
EZRA KLEIN: This is a- it is a big move here and I think he takes it seriously. On the other hand, I think you look at it from his perspective and it probably t looks somewhat different. Right? That he sees it, he comes out of conservatism. He has a lot of conservative friends, the conservative legal tradition the way it is pushing in this direction has been very, very strong. So, he probably also doesn't want to be a huge betrayal to his side, which now almost universally believes that he should strike down this mandate, that this is one of their biggest chances in a generation to limit the Commerce Clause.
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Dear Chris:
Submitted by oldfart on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 6:39pm.
Is there nothing too low, common, or trashy that will not say or do to impune a Republican?
I'll bet $100 you agreed with Cardinal Wuerl when he sacked that visiting Priest from Russia for not giving the host to a professed Buddhist and lesbian (who is living with her partner). Only in this country would that even be an issue.
How much do you really know about Roman Catholicism?
You sir are a hyprocrite - you are a grocery store Catholic - you pick and choose what you want to believe.
There's a reason why...
Submitted by paratisi on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 6:55pm.
...he is referred to as Creepy Chrissy. What a lowlife!
...and yes, this individual with the intellect of a mentally challenged monkey, isn't qualified to wash the Justice's jockstrap, nor shine his shoes. What a sad case you are Creepy Chrissy...btw how's that tingle working out for ya?
Savage
Submitted by sngnsgt on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 7:00pm.
Dr. Savage is right. Liberalism is an illness. Just how sick can tingle boy get? It's no surprise. MSNBC should be considered a campaign contribution.
I have long suspected John Roberts to be a closet lib
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 7:40pm.
After the Arizona ruling, in which he sided with the lefty justices to effectively destroy the sovereignty of that state, I now have no doubt.
Prissy should be singing his praises.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
The Fugitive Slave Act of
Submitted by redfish on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 8:31pm.
The Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 wasn't the question --- legal proceedings began before 1850, Scott was in possession by his owner and was never a fugitive, and he sued in court only after he was back in a slave state. The question wasn't whether one state had to cooperate in returning a slave, but which laws of which state applied to the defendant. Whether he was a free citizen, according to the laws of the state he had been in for a brief time, or whether he was a slave, under the laws of the state he was in at the time. (the state court ruled that he should have filed suit while in the free state)
/me sends Chris Matthews back to school
Some people think that the laws of the free state applied and others disagree, but the bigger problem is that the court went beyond ruling on that and essentially decided that black people weren't citizens at all and had no standing in federal court.
Four more months of this faux-slavery-loving-retro-racist slurs
Submitted by CO2Maker on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 8:33pm.
What will happen after 10:00 Thursday, when the decision is rendered?
All of the left has already muddied the water so much with racist this and racist that, Dred Scott, Bull Connors, Fugitive Slaves, Uncle Tom, disrespecting the "First Black President," etc.
The left-wing media is entirely responsible for what will come, the animosity, the slow-burning anger and resentment, the mumbled, vague threats and declarations of resistance, all that stuff. I believe the mandate and the entire law will be overturned, and the left will seethe with barely controlled outrage at the naked pandering by the justices to the base desires of the racist red state and redneck citizens who were deeply worried by the law when it was passed as a pig in a poke by a gloating "you can't read it until we pass it" Speaker Pirogi. And they became totally aghast when the cat emerged from the bag.
All this played out against a continuous chorus of race-mongering by almost all of the commentariat not employed by Fox News.
Taney was a Democrat
Submitted by O2bnAZ on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 8:43pm.
Taney was a Democrat...these people have absolutely no self awareness
More importantly, he used the
Submitted by redfish on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 8:49pm.
More importantly, he used the notion of substantive due process in his judgment, which was later used in Roe v Wade.
Excellent Point, Redfish
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 2:59am.
Fortunately for the Left, "Justice Harry Blackmun, author of Roe vs. Wade, the Dred Scott decision of our time", was the Roger Taney of his times.
Just think, if Taney had succeeded then gay marriages would be necessarily recognized by all States, not just the one's allowing it.
(Sarcasm/off)
In 1850
Submitted by oldfart on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 8:46am.
there was no Republican Party
First
Submitted by grammajane on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 9:34pm.
off, I am shocked you have a friend! Second off you claim you are a "roman catholic? I have Catholic friends who don't believe in killing babies or don't believe in sitting in front of a tv camera calling people filthy rich and racist Republican's. What church do you attend and is this hate what you have learned at your near-by church with your "friend?'' Hope you attend confession on a daily basis as you are the most hateful and uneducated fool on the air..........along with schultz,madcow and bashier
Dear grammajane
Submitted by oldfart on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 5:45am.
You go girl!
He meant "Roaming Catholic" LOL
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 8:13am.
When the increasingly hateful Chris Matthews (-John Nolte) refers to himself as "Catholic" he should always add "But I don't agree with the Church on certain things" in the interest of full disclosure.
Nolte coined the description after Matthews referred to Republicans as "Grand Wizards."
And Nolte is right: considering this, the "Grand Wizards" remark and Matthews' well-documented misogyny, NBC head Steve Capus is either blind or in agreement with this man's poisonous rhetoric.
Tingles...obamamedia's favorite buffoon
Submitted by nanoflex on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 12:07am.
Once obama leaves the White House forever, in January 2013,
will MSNBC simply shrivel up and die.
There will not be another Progressive president elected for a generation,
they will have nobody to adore.
Revisionism-so soon?
Submitted by Wineguy13 on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 8:59am.
Chris has a far more positive memory of the Health care act than I do. It seems to me that the overwhelming 7% margin than BO had plus the fact that the bill was at one time going to be deemed to have passed to avoid failure means it may have been a little less popular than this guy thinks. He is not in danger of losing his amateur status in broadcasting just yet, pathetic.
if-and only if the Court upholds Obama-care:
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 9:00am.
what does thos POS say then.
the Court has righted wrongs since America's beginings.
now-its wrong if the Court declares Government Intervention =WRONG
BS at its finest.
This guy gets paid very well=for what.
Why does anyone pay any
Submitted by John21 on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 9:12am.
Why does anyone pay any attention the mentally limited "Christie" Matthews? You know that nothing that comes out of his mouth is factual or realistic. He says he was talking to a friend (I doubt he has one) and discussions with his fellow short bus riders don't count they won't remember the talk in 2 minutes.
He is a devote Kool-Aid loving Obamabot, his bias is unchallagable, his lack of basic integety is beyond question, his mental limitation are well documented. Taking political advice from the braindead is how the country got in this mess to begin with.
Lib Logic…at its finest.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 9:37am.
A ‘Catholic’ Chief Justice wrote the majority opinion in the Dred Scott decision….
John Roberts is the current Chief Justice – John Roberts is also a Catholic…
Therefore, all Catholic Chief Justices support the Dred Scott decision.
- Grump :o)
P.s.: The actual Obamacare decision, will be revealed at 10 a.m. EST.
I’m the Chief Justice will mention Dred Scott in his majority opinion. //sarc.//
The Confederacy included 3.5
Submitted by RR GOP on Fri, 06/29/2012 - 8:05pm.
The Confederacy included 3.5 million slaves...Communists like Matthews want to enslave 300 million.
If Matthews owned a plantation down in Mississippi back in the day, you bet that he would have been the bestest, most kindest Massa in those parts.
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