ABC Hypes Ex-Bush Aide: Hypocritical States Push God While Touting Gun Rights
Which This Week analyst used the Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida as an excuse to slam religious conservative? It wasn't liberal host George Stephanopoulos. Instead, Matt Dowd on Sunday said this: "We want to be a Christian nation and we want to act in a Christian manner, but, oh, by the way, we don't believe in turn the other cheek."
The former George W. Bush pollster mocked, "And we don't believe in love your enemy. And we believe in loading, loading citizens and basically give them an opportunity to shoot people." [See video below. MP3 audio here.]
Dowd, who often appears on ABC's Good Morning America to provide supposedly thoughtful analysis, complained that states which have strong gun rights laws, such as Florida, "are also the same states and the same legislatures and the same governors who sort of push for prayer in the school. To me, there's such an irony here."
Terry Moran, a co-anchor of Nightline, appeared on the This Week panel to trash Florida's Stand Your Ground law. He fumed, "It sabotaged our justice system...The Florida law destroys that American system."
The liberal cliches continued. Regarding the shooting of the teenager, another ABC veteran and panel member, Cokie Roberts, blamed the Second Amendment: "And this is where the problem with guns comes...I'm saying the gun is the problem. That's what kills you."
A partial transcript of the segment, which aired at 10:30am EDT, follows:
COKIE ROBERTS: And this is where the problem with guns comes, because if you just- are a person who's a little off and has some false sense of power, that's one thing if you don't have a gun in your hand.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Yet, he carried all the proper permits.
ROBERTS: Listen I'm not saying it was a legal gun. I'm saying the gun is the problem. That's what kills you.
TERRY MORAN: And the law. And the law in Florida does something else that no other state has a law like this. Not only is stand your ground law, in the olden days under common law, you had the duty to retreat. Stand your ground says no, you don't have to. Florida goes one step farther. Stand your ground is self-defense. Self-defense. Defense, at trial, it would go to trial. In Florida, the law says if you raise a claim of self-defense after killing someone in public, you can't even be arrested unless the police-
STEPHANOPOULOS: That's exactly right. Section 776. Listen to this: "Provides immunity from arrest unless the police have probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful."
MORAN: It's why prosecutors and police hated this law. It sabotaged our justice system. In all of the discussion we heard, what did Zimmerman do? What did Trayvon do? Juries are supposed to figure that out. The Florida law destroys that American system.
MATT DOWD: To me, what's ironic to me,- such irony about this is most of the states that have passed this, including Florida and the stand your ground laws and the expanded, obviously, gun, ownership laws, where you can carry concealed weapons, are also the same states and the same legislatures and the same governors who sort of push for prayer in the school. To me, there's such an irony here.
ROBERTS: [Laughs] We need to pray more with all those guns out there.
DOWD: We want to be a Christian nation and we want to act in a Christian manner, but, oh, by the way, we don't believe in turn the other cheek. And we don't believe in love your enemy. And we believe in loading, loading citizens and basically give them an opportunity to shoot people. This is an unbelievable, to me, tragic, tragic case. But I think as Donna said, I think it touched something in society. I hope what doesn't happen, I hope that the rhetoric drops a little bit and that we don't go from what we had two weeks ago, which was everybody was saying there was a war on women and now everybody's saying, certain leaders are starting to say there's a war on African-Americans or a war on blacks. That's not what this is about. Really, that's fundamental. This is about somebody- this about, best case you could say, he's mentally off, George Zimmerman. And that's what I think, we got to go back to what this is really saying about society. This is an individual who did this. This isn't a commentary.
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MATT DOWD: To me, what's ironic to me,- such irony about this is most of the states that have passed this, including Florida and the stand your ground laws and the expanded, obviously, gun, ownership laws, where you can carry concealed weapons, are also the same states and the same legislatures and the same governors who sort of push for prayer in the school. To me, there's such an irony here. 









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To What Pupose Say This, Dowd?
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:02pm.
Latest reports are than Martin attacked Zimmerman and was bashing his skull against the sidewalk. Whether this is true, and the only (partial) witness seems to corroborate it, time will tell.
Until the facts are known in this complicated and tragic event, STHU Dowd. Stop fanning flames for your personal benefit.
...there's such an irony
Submitted by PeskyDane on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:06pm.
...there's such an irony here.
Unlike say, a policy to disarm citizens coupled with an inability to provide protection for them.
The train (of thought) jumps the track
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:21pm.
DOWD: We want to be a Christian nation and we want to act in a Christian manner, but, oh, by the way, we don't believe in turn the other cheek. And we don't believe in love your enemy. And we believe in loading, loading citizens and basically give them an opportunity to shoot people. This is an unbelievable, to me, tragic, tragic case. . .
So, the rhetoric here is about Christians and guns and shooting people. Is that what this case is about?
DOWD: . . . But I think as Donna said, I think it touched something in society. I hope what doesn't happen, I hope that the rhetoric drops a little bit . . .
It would appear from what Mr. Dowd has already unleashed a volley of rhetoric about Christians and guns, would it not?
DOWD: . . . and that we don't go from what we had two weeks ago, which was everybody was saying there was a war on women and now everybody's saying, certain leaders are starting to say there's a war on African-Americans or a war on blacks. That's not what this is about. Really, that's fundamental. . .
So, it's not about racial violence against blacks, it's about Christians with guns shooting people?
DOWD: . . .This is about somebody- this about, best case you could say, he's mentally off, George Zimmerman. And that's what I think, we got to go back to what this is really saying about society. This is an individual who did this. This isn't a commentary.
OK, so after pointing at Christians hating enemies and shooting people with guns, this case is really about an individual who's "mentally off."
Uh . . . I don't get it.
Gun totin' Christians.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:36pm.
I wonder if those 40+ people who were shot in the RBFSOB's home town, Chicago, over St. Patrick's Day were gunned down by God fearing Christians?
To be fair, ONLY about 20 of them actually died, so I don't want to make it sound worse than it was.
I'm sure all of the victims didn't bother to 'turn the other cheek." They probably got shot in the first cheek that the gunmen could get their sights on.
Suppose Zimmerman had been armed with a TIRE IRON
Submitted by Jayke on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:27pm.
... can you not kill somebody with a TIRE IRON? What about a baseball bat or a knife? Are we to OUTLAW THOSE THINGS?
This was picked up on because it gives an excuse for GUN CONTROL. Nothing more.
The BIG GOV people are afraid of our guns.
"God made man. Sam Colt made men equal."
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:29pm.
I've been in a situation where someone was attempting to break into my house at 4 AM. I got my gun (one of many) and went to watch to see if he, in fact, would crash in the door (it was glass). I told my wife to call 911. She did.
I heard her describing to the 911 operator that someone was trying to break into our house, and she said to the operator that "my husband has a gun."
I heard her say, "OK," and she covered up the receiver and said to me, "She said for you to put the gun away."
I almost laughed as I replied to her request with a , "You're shittin' me?!?!"
Fortunately the cops arrived before the "young boy" (probably about 19) broke in and I "ruthlessly murdered" his sorry ass.
When the cops had him, I walked out the front door with the weapon still in tow, and the cop never blinked at the weapon.
I'm still laughing at the operator wanting me to "put the gun away." Hell, I thought I showed great restraint not shooting him through the glass door.
There weren't any guns in the
Submitted by okie-pastor on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 4:46pm.
There weren't any guns in the days of Jesus but there were swords. And while he said "those who live by the sword, will die by the sword" he never told any of his disciples to stop carrying them. I guess you could say that in that day, they had open carry laws.
Check out
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:37am.
Luke 22:36: Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." This was when Jesus was sending his disciples out into the world. The complete context is here.
This bonehead isn't related
Submitted by inquiringmind on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 5:30pm.
This bonehead isn't related to Maureen by any chance is he? He sure makes about as much sense as she does.
I guess they never went to
Submitted by MichaelPaladin on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 6:16pm.
I guess they never went to church enough to realize that "turn the other cheek" only applies when someone verbally insults you, and does not apply when someone is assulting you. At least that was what I was taught.
That is what I was taught too
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:33am.
The "strike" was a metaphor, do not trade insult for insult.
Christians with guns
Submitted by Franksam on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 6:38pm.
This idea works for me, but I will admit to being something of an Old Testament guy. Do unto others as they have done unto you, and sometimes even before they do it.
When Jesus
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:32am.
sent his disciples into the world, he knew what the world was. He told them to by a sword. If they didnt have one, then sell their coat and buy one. And that's in Luke 22:36.
Same old game-use Christian
Submitted by RR GOP on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 1:45am.
Same old game-use Christian values to attack Christians. Unfortunately, many Christians buy into this.
Also note that just because someone has an R behind their name does not exclude them from the possibility of being a Communist. That's another common obfuscation game.
Remember it was the Annenberg Foundation that gave money to Ayers and Obama..."But Annenberg was a Conservative and a personal friend of Ronald Reagan, how can Ayers and Obama therefore be Communists???"
LOL. They're so good at this.
"Under Capitalism, man exploits man. Under Communism it's just the opposite."
"All that Communism needs to make it successful is for someone to feed and clothe it."
I hate to point this out, but
Submitted by texastommy on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 8:50am.
There's some evidence, based on a non random sample of two, that those with the last name of Dowd are morons.
Apoligies to any others who have the name but can actually think.
Cokie talking about praying
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:28am.
Who do liberals pray to anyway?