Ex-Newsweek Editor: Santorum Poses a 'Fundamental Challenge to the Modern World'
Former Newsweek senior editor Howard Fineman on Tuesday slammed Rick Santorum as regressive, sneering, "Well, I think Rick Santorum is posing a more fundamental challenge to the modern world."
Fineman made his mocking comment while talking to Hardball's Chris Matthews. The liberal anchor wondered who liberals should "fear" more, "Romney's elitist attitude towards the economy, where he looks at everything from the top, economically? Or Santorum's, sort of, gut sense that his religion should trump the Constitution if necessary?" [See video below. MP3 audio here.]
Fineman did concede that Santorum "could" win the presidency, adding, "If you get in the finals, if you get in the big game, you can win. I wouldn't say no." Fellow guest Joe Klein disagreed, saying "probably not" to the possibility.
MSNBC has repeatedly promoted anti-Santorum guests and journalists. On Monday, Bill Maher appeared to suggest Rick Santorum is saying, "Yes, I will take my marching orders from the Pope!" On Tuesday, New York Times columnist Charles Blow slammed, "Rick Santorum scares the bejesus out of people."
A transcript of the February 28 segment, which aired at 5:12pm EST, follows:
CHRIS MATTHEWS: My question to those who are on the other side. Howard, speak for them. Those in the center and the left, the progressives out there. What should they fear more? Romney's elitist attitude towards the economy, where he looks at everything from the top, economically? Or Santorum's, sort of, gut sense that his religion should trump the Constitution if necessary?
HOWARD FINEMAN: Well, I think Rick Santorum is posing a more fundamental challenge to the modern world. So- And on the assumption that it's going to probably be a tight race regardless, and I think it will because of polls showing that there's still a lot of unhappiness with President Obama's leadership, especially on the economy. I would say be careful what you wish for if you're wishing for Rick Santorum, because the campaign, I think, would be one of surpassing ugliness, probably on both sides, and something even more divisive than anything we're already prepared to expect in this coming election.
MATTHEWS: Could he win the presidency, Howard?
FINEMAN: Yeah, he could win the presidency. If you get in the finals, if you get in the big game, you can win. I wouldn't say no. I wouldn't say no, because as we all l know, we were talking about the area of, you know, ten states, you're talking about ten battleground states, you could say it's unlikely, but I don't think you can say it's impossible by any means. Of course, you never say that in politics.
MATTHEWS: Do you agree?
JOE KLEIN: Probably not, but he has a shot, as you said. The thing about Romney's campaign that's so crazy is that if you run on electibility, which is a stupid thing to run on in the first place, you have to prove that you can be- that you're electable to the people in the middle who are going to put you over the top. And he has done none of that in this campaign, going back to the very first thing we started with.
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Having a King is NOT modern.
Submitted by jkwtrading on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:18pm.
Having a King is NOT modern. Howard the DUCK.
Uh... Howie, Baby...
Submitted by Annie Ashe Fields on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:24pm.
When The Messiah's energy policies have you reading actual paper books by candlelight, you get back to me and let me know who the regressive is.
Good grief.
Howard Fineman poses
Submitted by fivestring_assassin on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:38pm.
a fundamental challenge to those on the 8th floor of Bellevue
After all, it's MSNBC,,,the home of the cognitively challenged
Rick Santorum is an
Submitted by buddyc on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:22pm.
Rick Santorum is an embarrassment to any conservative. He lost his last election to Bob Casey by 19%. He has an IQ in the 75 range. He has no record of any accomplishment in ANYTHING.
If Republicans nominate him I leave the party never to return and I refuse to vote for such an unqualified person.
Wow
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:25pm.
the man holds 3 advanced diplomas. For someone so dumb, I'd say that's quite an accomplishment. And may I humbly submit, buddy, you should take solace in that, as it doth prove, there is hope for you as well.
I think buddyc is a troll!
Submitted by acaiguana on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:37pm.
Don't feed the troll.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
You're absolutely
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:41pm.
right, I'm sorry. Looking at the other threads here, it's kind of apparent the he gets about one hour out of his restraints and on the computer, cuz I see him crazily going down each topic yipping away. Run Buddy, Run! I promise to ignore him from here on in. Thanks ACA.
ACA
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:40pm.
Yep, he even felt obliged to comment on a Rush quote in a tag line.
I ran through his posts. ACA
Submitted by acaiguana on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:09pm.
All are obnoxious.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
NOTHING degrees for 2nd rate
Submitted by buddyc on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:09pm.
NOTHING degrees for 2nd rate schools and one job at a mediocre law firm. Thereafter nothing but the government tit and special interest money.
19% loss to Bob Casey speaks for his qualifications and his campaign ability. People care about inflation, jobs, economic growth, corruption, the deficit and terrorists. Ricky has no clue on the important issues. But he really is qualified on sex because he has had 8 kids. WOW!
Seriously are you not embarrassed but such a marginal inconsequential person? How i is he any better than loser now in office?
You people make me sick. We can do better and you nominate this loser!
Silly troll
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:13pm.
Casey gets by on his daddy's name in a primarily democratic full of unions state. It's always a pleasant surprise when we get ANY Republican in office from PA.
As far as us making you sick, trust me, you make most NB'rs feel much worse than just sick. Troll on somewhere else.
Actually Rad
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:31pm.
the idea that we make this mental midget sick, is kind of gratifying, in an offbeat way.
right on bobsmom*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:36pm.
Let him take a laxative and after the "cure" he may even be sane.
If he has any IQ points left after the laxative works.
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:45pm.
Penn State, for all its current troubles, is not a "second rate" institution. It numbers more Fortune 500 CEOs (current and former) among its alumni than any other institution. It was also the only university in the United States with its own nuclear reactor for research purposes.
We all know having a degree from an Ivy League institution does not mean the holder has any moral, intellectual or social superiority. The Kennedys, by and large, went to Harvard and other Ivy League institutions, and I would challenge anyone to find a family more stuffed to the gills with cheaters, liars and reprobates.
Ohh BerWolf please dont throw
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:36pm.
Ohh BerWolf please dont throw me in that briar patch.
Well, if what you say is true
Submitted by NC Cop on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:37pm.
Well, if what you say is true then I'm encouraged. He's far and away more qualified than the current president.
SEE YA!
Submitted by stage9 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:06pm.
Have a nice life. If you reject Conservatism, you never were one to begin with. Obamney is a liberal using liberal tactics he learned in MA. Paul is a libertarian anarchist who is parasiting off of a Party he fundamentally opposes. Both of these twerps are no different than Obama on most of their policies.
Frankly most of those who call themselves Conservatives are anything but Conservative. They are liberal lite.
Good riddance.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
I'm sorry but
Submitted by MacWell on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:44pm.
I believe Newt is the only candidate who has the stones and the brains to take on the Axelrod machine that is to come. Axelrod is a dangerous man, he is capable and has a lot of Soros's money behind him. Also Axelrod has no compunction about playing dirty, as dirty as he has to.
Regardless, we the people must remove this America hater from the white House. Obama and his band of henchmen, (tzars) have done a lot of damage and it's going to take some time to fix this mess, but, we the people have done it before, and we can do it again.
Newt may be a lot of things, but, he is a patriot and loves America. We could do a lot worse in our next President.
Anyone but Obama
The Constitution.....
Submitted by dyardley on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:49pm.
I guess its because the libs don't think about the constitution but there's this little matter of the First Amendment....Separation of church and state.... Just because our liar in chief doesn't pay any attention to it....doesn't mean Rick Santorum would try to impose his beliefs on the nation. He's asked about his beliefs and answers. Doesn't mean he's setting national policy. Gimme a break.
Tell us again, Howie, how you contributed to Newsweeks decline?
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:05pm.
There is no need to go after Howard's character. He doesn't have any. He is completely amoral, without conviction of any sort (except maybe some undisclosed criminal stuff) and without any iota of conscience or emotional connection to anyone but his fellow liberal stooges.
In 2008, Fineman and co. were saying the same about Obama
Submitted by Gary Hall on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:13pm.
In 2008, Fineman, Matthews and clones on the left were saying the same about Obama - - "that he was promising to bring a fundamental challenge forth. . " -- and they were celebrating it.
. . and ever since, we've been challenged to deal with it.
(;~/ gary
Fineman again?
Submitted by KyWriter on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:24pm.
His commentary is about as useful as flatulence and much less pleasant, but he makes a good foil for Matthews, who has made obnoxious into an art form.
In addtion
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:47pm.
to the fact that the screengrab makes him look like he's passing a kidney stone.
Fear more
Submitted by Scottyb4292 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:49pm.
We have to fear more idiocy like that on display here and every evening on Tingles' show. It's actually happened. We have people in the media and in government who don't understand the First Amendment.
Exactly Scotty
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:35pm.
The liberal anchor wondered who liberals should "fear" more, "Romney's elitist attitude towards the economy, where he looks at everything from the top, economically? Or Santorum's, sort of, gut sense that his religion should trump the Constitution if necessary?" How about fearing the current occupant's complete incompetance on economic issues, or his clear dislike for everything American, or his egotistical belief that everything's about him, or his arrogance that we should all just shut up and do what he tells us to do? The list goes on. Hell, McCain would be better than who we're currently stuck with. Even Shrillary would be doing a better job (at least she's politically savvy). If you're going to "fear" a politician, how about fearing what's happening, not buying fear about unwarranted and ridiculous speculation?