ABC Parrots White House Spin for Booing of Michelle Obama: 'Not Clear' What Intent Was
Good Morning America's Josh Elliott on Monday repeated White House talking points in regard to the booing of Michelle Obama at a NASCAR event on Sunday. News reader Elliott played a clip of the booing and then parroted, "The White House says it was a chaotic event. It was not clear, perhaps, what the boos were specifically for."
The Today show didn't cover the event at all. On the Early Show, Jeff Glor linked, "Some people booed [Michelle Obama and Jill Biden] when they showed up last night. They were on hand to honor military troops and their families." [See video of the booing here.]
Co-host Erica Hill later repeated, "At other sporting events, this has happened as well. Not everybody always happy but they were there as part of their joining forces initiative to highlight military families."
She also asserted, "A little bit of a controversial moment at NASCAR season finale at the Homestead-Miami Speedway over the weekend."
Glor provided a more blase attitude, pointing out: "They've certainly heard it before, no matter what side of the aisle you're on."
A transcript of the two reports can be found below:
11/21/11
7:15
JOSH ELLIOTT: And this morning, the White House is downplaying the reception the First Lady, Michelle Obama, received on Sunday where it appeared that she was booed by fans.
ANNOUNCER: First Lady of the United States, Michelle Obama and Dr. Jill Biden, as they deliver the most famous words in motor sports.
ELLIOTT: The White House says it was a chaotic event. It was not clear, perhaps, what the boos were specifically for.
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11/21/11
7:31
JEFF GLOR: Coming up, a lot of people talking about what happened at NASCAR season's finale last night. And not just about Tony Stewart's win. It's how the crowd reacted to First Lady Michelle Obama and the Vice President's wife Jill Biden. Some people booed them when they showed up last night. They were on hand to honor military troops and their families. We're going to have more on that controversy straight ahead here.
...
7:48
ERICA HILL: A little bit of a controversial moment at NASCAR season finale at the Homestead-Miami Speedway over the weekend.
GLOR: It didn't involve charges of cheating or an accident. Instead, it was the way that First Lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden were received by the crowd. Take a listen.
ANNOUNCER: First Lady of the United States Michelle Obama and Dr. Jill Biden as they deliver the most famous words in motor sports.
MICHELLE OBAMA AND JILL BIDEN: Gentlemen, start your engines.
HILL: See, you hear some boos there. Some cheers.
GLOR: A little bit.
HILL: A little bit of a mix and there has been some talk about the boos that happened there. Also, some things written that this was not the first time it happened.
GLOR: Yeah.
HILL: At other sporting events, this has happened as well. Not everybody always happy but they were there as part of their joining forces initiative to highlight military families.
GLOR: Yes, they were there and they've certainly heard it before, no matter what side of the aisle you're on.
HILL: The beauty of politics, right?
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NASCAR is a...
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:06pm.
NASCAR is an event filled with racists and bigots who burn crosses...who knew? /sarc off
Just like the former leader of the Democrat Senate...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:11pm.
Robert Byrd once did?
NASCAR
Submitted by milesll on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:11pm.
Of course you leftwing nutjobs aren't racist-ask Robert Byrd. Why is it that you crazies try to start riots when conservatives try to speak-double standard you think? The KKK crowd-which you sound like a member of-are Democrats NOT Republicans.
wow...
Submitted by dmacleo on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:21pm.
looks like some repliers to you don't know what /sarc means.....
They were booing the political sideshow.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:01pm.
Attending that NASCAR event had zero to do with supporting military families and everything with a lame attempt by Obama (through Moochelle Antoinette) to do damage control over the multiple insults she and her husband have hurled at the NASCAR fan base since day one. Between her luxury, taxpayer junkets and the phony childhood nutrition campaigns emphasizing the food police, people have had enough. Her own comments about being proud of America only after her husband was elected and her husband's comments about "bitter clingers" resonated negatively with the NASCAR fan base, and they knew a scene of cheap political theater when they saw her in the crowd.
Her greatest transgression . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:20pm.
. . . was her comment in 2008 that it was the first time in her adult life that she was proud of America.
NASCAR events aren't the kind of venues where that kind of comment goes well.
I'm sure that the DNC will use the imagery of the negative NASCAR reaction as a fundraising gimmick -- more "Obama's a victims"crap. But who cares?
both of you - well said
Submitted by kata on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:54pm.
I would not have boo'ed. But I certainly would not have lifted a hand to applaud.
The whole hand?
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:57pm.
Would you have lifted the whole hand or just one finger?
Reminds me of a poem I heard once...
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:36pm.
Roses are red,
Violets are blue;
-displays hand- These are my fingers,
-raises da finger- This one's for you.
Does she not deserve it?
Submitted by the struggler on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:05pm.
I would have booed.If I was the only one in the stands,I would have booed.
Just the way I was raised, I guess.
Submitted by kata on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:10pm.
.
As Obama frequently says, "Let me make myself...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:06pm.
perfectly clear...the American people and especially NASCAR fans, can't stand Michelle Obama!"
We all know the reasons starting with her infamous comment, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my Country...".
NASCAR Fans..
Submitted by GeneralAl on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:10pm.
NASCAR fans are part of forgotten America. They're degraded by the likes of the libs and commies in this country and they've had enough! Boo away, NASCAR Fans, we have your back!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
not clear, perhaps, what the boos were specifically for.
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:11pm.
1. express disapproval: to shout "boo!" in order to express dissatisfaction or contempt of somebody, especially a speaker or performer
It's NOT clear??
Submitted by oldmanatee on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:12pm.
I wasn't there, but I can assure you who the boo-ing was directed at...
Watch for sanctions for NASCAR soon. I expect they will be racing Volts next season. At least it will bring back the firey crashes....
That's funny!
Submitted by fatboy on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:47pm.
That's funny!
It's already started.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:21pm.
The carburetor is gone. EFI coming next year.
Remember how gleeful the media was
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:15pm.
when the guy threw a shoe at Bush? A little booing should be no biggee after that.
i didn't watch the start of
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:25pm.
i didn't watch the start of the race just because of Thunder Thighs. I knew it was a photo op. I saw a replay. The Commucrats will use this to say they were booing the military family she had in the photo op. If she wants to do something for the active duty and their families them tell her old man to quit screwing with Tricare.
She's popping up all over the place
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:00pm.
I'm finding more and more stuff I don't need to watch after she and her waist belts come on TV.
The spouse and kids are learning to quickly change the channel lest I unleash another rant about the monsters destroying our country.
Waist belt or waste belt, pockets?
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:49pm.
Maybe the belt has to hold things, just to maintain her "svelte" shape. Ack, gag, sorry, I just can't say it without serious repercussions to my digestion.
Not unusual...
Submitted by Dr. T on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:19pm.
This doesn't surprise me, coming from the same groups who don't recognize the sound of people changing the channel by the millions or the undeniable din of plummeting ratings.
I think they got off lightly with the clearly obvious boos. It's a good bet that the portion of the crowd that weren't booing simply didn't hear the introduction. Not surprising in a crowd of that size. If more people had heard it, the booing would have been incessant and undeniable.
Aww, dey was booed. At least
Submitted by ant on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:19pm.
Aww, dey was booed. At least they weren't called fat, soft, lazy, clingers, racists, Nazis, obstructionists, mean, stupid, rubes, bitter.....
Just give me a chance
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:01pm.
I'll be more than happy to call them nazis if you just give me a chance.
Poor, Poor Mooosechelle
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:25pm.
Should we have a pity party for this Deputy Narcissist? Who cares that she got booed? She and Comrade Zero are fleecing the country on a daily basis, look down their noses at Nascar fans, and they expected rose petals?
This sow ought to just be glad this crowd didn't "run to get their guns and bibles" that her dopey-ass husband once opined.
She is a dope, and I am being kind.
The Obamination... A crisis leading to a catastrophe..(please donate to MRC)
They weren't booing.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:10pm.
They were "mooooo-ing" They LOVE Mooosh-hell the moooooslem.
LOL, cowboy.....think they're Gator fans?
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:46pm.
Because we'd "moooo" when Moody would run the ball.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I'll bet...
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:22pm.
a bunch of 'em were Gator fans! Chomp! Chomp!
Not Paying Attention
Submitted by lkotur on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:33pm.
You guys were just not paying attention.
The crowd was yelling "BOOOOOOOOOOty" because of her big rear end.
NASCAR - the last refuge of political correctness
Submitted by kata on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:51pm.
well, not really.
The reason for the booing couldn't have been clearer . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:51pm.
. . . had she declared Dale Earnhardt was a Communist.
Several months ago Thunder
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:55pm.
Several months ago Thunder Thighs came to Camp Lejeune to give a baby shower to the wives of the Marines/sailors there. All kinds of gifts were given to the expectant mothers. The MSM just slobbered all over this photo op. Turns out the only wives invited were the wives of officers not enlisted. The MSM didn't dare tell that. Old Thunder Thighs couldn't be seen with the commoners wives.
no surprise..
Submitted by Mark81150 on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 1:47pm.
In 1980 I was in Basic Training at Lackland AFB when Carter came to San Antonio for a campaign stop.. That day was one of our two days we were allowed to have in town before graduation, and the hate for Carter after Desert 1 was still fresh............
8 men were still in the burn ward at Wilford Hall Medical Center.. and he shows up in the same town to crow about himself?
You couldn't register the hate the enlisted had for that fool with anything less than a gieger counter, he was and is still that toxic. Officers, unfortunately, often are nonploitical, or careerists, much easier to find a ready audience among them, than the ranks.
So Carter was despised by the military, Clinton was despised
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 6:52pm.
by the military, and Obama is despised by the military.
I regret my vote for Carter's re-election--Reagan was the right man at the right time [which I didn't recognize until he was out of office] but I do know how deeply affected Carter was by the tragedy of Desert One, its failure due primarily to an almost bizarre combination of unfortunate factors beyond his control.
But there is an obvious and disturbing pattern of this phenomenon of antipathy regarding the military and US presidents--it seems to be exclusively directed at Democrats. Perhaps it shouldn't be all that surprising given the false narrative constantly peddled by the talking heads on the right, [and piped to our young men and women in uniform serving around the world] viz., that Democratic CIC's loathe America, especially the military and all members of our armed forces.
Jer
That is your opinion, Jer, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 10:18pm.
nothing more.
Unless, of course, you have some sources to link to?
Ones that could convince me that ONLY talking heads on the right have the ability to 'pipe' information to our military forces.
Oh, and a convincing source that shows the narrative of which you speak is both false and constantly peddled.
Thanking you in advance.
MD
My youngest brother - who is
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:56pm.
My youngest brother - who is a Naval Acadamy graduate - was in Djabouti during that mission as some type of support. I remember him telling me that it was the worst night of their lives - he saw the results first hand. I'm sure that Jimmah Cahtah can't be blamed for the whole thing (although he is complicit in WHY the whole thing started)...........but he's got enough negative credentials to be blamed for all the other things that he screwed up!!!!
Problem:
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 9:13pm.
Officers HAVE to keep their mouths shut. Consult Article 88 of the UCMJ.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
did the taxpayers
Submitted by ROSSMAN on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 2:57pm.
pay for her trip!! DOES SHE EVER STAY HOME!!
If that's the case
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:12pm.
If that's the case then Hank Jr.'s remark about Hitler was unclear and the song he wrote about it was even less clear. Nascar people are too busy clinging to their guns and religion to listen to Mahbutt.
The reality discernment of liberals is totally non-existent.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
a Nascar event for those two was a poor idea.
Submitted by Bobbygn on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:16pm.
Sort of like trying to stick big round pegs in square holes. Those two should stick to gay pride parades and environmental protests where their friends hang out.
What next?
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:24pm.
KKK meeting?
"It wasn't clear what the burning cross meant." - WH source
I don't care if it was done by many or just a few, or if it's
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:26pm.
directed at a Republican or a Democrat, booing the First Lady is crass.
Jer
This First Lady is crass
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:49pm.
She got what her husband deserved after incessantly mocking this "group" for four years. Did this administration really believe she'd be welcomed with open arms?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Then boo her husband. Vote him out of office. Problem solved.
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 5:21pm.
I don't think there was an expectation of a five-minute standing ovation. But it was probably believed--at least hoped--that because she is the First Lady and her presence was associated with such a worthy cause that even those who despise both her and her husband would at least refrain from booing her.
Jer
Sorry, Jer.
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:39pm.
MO used the "worthy cause" to stick her nose where it wasn't desired.
It's her own fault she got booed, or the fault of the WH handlers. NOT the fault of the booers.
As the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I'm not a big fan of the
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:53pm.
I'm not a big fan of the booing...........and it was hard to hear how much there really was, but I can say one thing: Moooooooooooochelle has irritated a LOT of people - before and after the election - with her sanctimony and her disdain and her elitist attitude towards the average American - as well as her blatent behavior with regards to the way she has conducted herself as first lady - which, in my own little peabrain, has been pretty condascending and arrogant, especially given the economic conditions that her husband has helped create.
I think she's as phony as a 3-dollar bill, just like her husband..........and there is a LOT of evidence to prove that is true. So when she somehow manages to 'show up' to a NASCAR event - you know, where these white racist rednecks like to drink beer and watch fossil-fuel propelled cars making a lot of noise and going real fast, and being sponsered by EVIL cigarettes , as well as petroleum products..................NONE of which is anything that the First Big Booty endorses or agrees with - it was probably just too much for a lot of those people to take - they aren't as 'stupid' as these elitists think they are - and they're NOT easily fooled.
They're 'country dumb'..............which means they can smell bullsh*t a mile away.
Of course, if it was a fire sale on fashion designs that were discontinued - due to no sales - and it was sponsered by some restaurant that specializes in French fries, arugula,and sirloin steak...............served with expensive vodka............I'm sure that Moooooooooooooochelle would be the first one to show up and endorse it!!!
Get all that off your chest
Submitted by Sude23 on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 2:11am.
Get all that off your chest their Killa? lol. BTW I am on your side, lol.
Sude23 ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 4:27am.
"I am the very definition of awesome".
Zippers, is Sude23 another of your manifestations?
MD
Don't get your feelings hurt...
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:05pm.
When you pee in my canteen cup and I throw it in your face, it won't bother me when you get your feelings hurt.
Uh oh! We have an emergency!
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:33pm.
Don't worry, Jer, the whaaaaaambulance is on the way. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110903160436/uncyclopedia/images...
Look at it this way, Jer. A
Submitted by ant on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:42pm.
Look at it this way, Jer. A majority of the opinions and beliefs of people in this country are flat out ignored or demonized. Here was an opportunity for a segment of working-class 'clingers' to voice their disapproval to what is usually an unapproachable, tone-deaf audience,- the elites of DC. And what happens? Their negative sentiments are dismissed anyway. They're not listening in the Beltway, they're not listening still.
Since when are First Lady's untouchable?
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:53pm.
It's not like she's not pushing the progressive agenda. It's not like she's a demure, behind-the-scenes good little wife. She's been out there since day one and unlike a campaign against drugs or pushing a literacy program, this one is pushing a federal takeover of the healthcare system.
No wait. That was the last Dem First Lady.
This one is pushing a totalitarian food agenda. And fundraising. So essentially, she's just another politician which makes her subject to political derision.
If she can't handle it, divorce him.
I think she has handled it pretty well, bk...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:16pm.
She didn't complain about it.
But even though I'm well aware of the depth of the hatred for the Obamas within the NewsBusters community, I'm still surprised at the unanimous defense of this unseemly episode.
Jer
Slight correction. I had forgotten kata didn't endorse the booing.
→ She missed her chance, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:25pm.
And that's not to say she won't do it some time in the future, but if she would have just dropped her sobbing face into her hand as all those NASCAR fans booed, NewsBusters would be seriously on the defensive today.
I've always found that works for me, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:40pm.
Jer
Oh, I'm sure she's
Submitted by ant on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:26pm.
Oh, I'm sure she's complaining about it. Just like she was reportedly pissed at that Paula Deen for talking out-of-school about how much the Wookie stuffs her fat face with junk food. Luckily, this crowd was big enough to avoid the progressive's habit of siccing the IRS on those who dissent, a la Joe the Plumber.
The IRS siccing ended with Nixon, ant...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:42pm.
Don't fall for everything you read at Atlas Shrugs.
Jer
Nope, the press had the
Submitted by ant on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:49pm.
Nope, the press had the woman's name and former office position, it was an Obama syncophant that released the hounds on Joe the Plumber. The Clinton's have done it, and they'll do it to you eventually, unless you contribute enough to the coffers to merit a waiver from Obama-care.
Sure it did, Jer.
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:50pm.
Clinton would never have done anything like that!
You'll have to do better than Newsmax and Judicial Watch, CX.
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:58pm.
Jer
No I won't, Jer
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:04pm.
Are you attempting to refute the story, or just bashing the source?
Both, CX...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:11pm.
The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources.
Jer
Really Jer?*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:20pm.
Please give us a list of acceptable sources so we can save a lot of time.
BTW: that post is being bookmarked...You know of course, it will come back to haunt you....;-)
cajun...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:44pm.
MediaMatters, DailyKos, and me.
Jer
So, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:24pm.
You are a calling Paul Breslan, who was identified as a senior IRS official, a liar?
Nope. I'm calling Newsmax.com and Larry Klayman of
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:44pm.
Judicial Watch unreliable sources.
OIC's Starr and Ray [both Republicans] cleared Clinton as did the Archer committee [majority Republican]
Jer
Okay, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:50pm.
Then Paul Breslan wasn't lying under oath when he said that the Clintons used the IRS to target their opponents. That's good.
Can you please provide a link to your information about the Clintons being cleared of using the IRS to target their opponents?
CX...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:18pm.
Here's committee report [BTW, Roth was chairman, Archer vice-chairman]
Following are comments by Republican Chris Shays in 1998:
REP. CHRISTOPHER SHAYS: Well, I believe that the president committed crimes. I believe he committed even serious crimes. I don't believe he committed high crimes, and that's where I really had to make my determination on whether the president should be impeached or not. I thought high crimes were the misuse of the FBI and the IRS and the White House Travel Office. And Mr. Starr cleared him of that. I thought it was a misuse and high crimes were committed in terms of 900 FBI files in the possession of the White House, mostly Republicans. And Mr. Starr cleared him of that. He cleared him of Whitewater. And so I'm left with the fact that the lesser crimes are really what's before Congress right now. I think that's one reason why the Judiciary Committee started to reach out to see if they could find more, and they're really stuck with the Starr Report. It's just not reaching the level of high crimes.
Will you post your copy of Breslan's affidavit or any other documentary record of his sworn testimony.
Thanks.
Jer
Thank you, Jer.
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:21pm.
I'll peruse the report and see what I can find.
No, I will not locate and post a copy of Breslan's affidavit. My source is the story I linked to. If that doesn't meet your stringent legal requirements, that's fine with me.
CX...You indicated Breslan's statement was made
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:50pm.
under oath, so I assumed you had seen the statement. Now I note that nowhere in the NewsMax article does it refer to a sworn statement. An expectation of accurately summarizing the content of your source is not a particularly stringent requirement.
Jer
Well, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:56pm.
Here is the statement from the article I linked:
"An official with the Internal Revenue Service has admitted that legal opponents of former President Bill Clinton were singled out for tax audits, according to court documents made public this week."
Is it incorrect to think that court documents are created from statements made under oath?
Yes, CX, it is incorrect.
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:18pm.
Of course documents filed with the court may be based on sworn statements, but not necessarily. The allegations contained in the initial complaint need not be made under oath.
Jer
Thanks, Jer, I've learned something tonight.
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:27pm.
So are you saying that Paul Breslan, a senior IRS official, might have been lying when he made those statements?
I think it's more of a case
Submitted by NC Cop on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:33pm.
I think it's more of a case of "You can't prove he was telling the truth."
Genius, ain't it?
NC Cop
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:51pm.
Lawyers are trained to think that way. That's why they're ranked #3 in the top ten most hated professions in the world. ;)
Well that's encouraging...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 6:21pm.
Based on the comments I've read at NB over the years, I was certain they would have the top spot locked up.
Jer
Hey,Jer
Submitted by ant on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 10:13pm.
Notice how I kinda started this, but managed to stay out of it? Ah, you guys were doin' fine without me anyway.
I've seen your kind, ant...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 10:21pm.
the crafty provocateur who then sneaks away as a street brawl breaks out.
Jer
You calling ant an instigator, Jer, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 10:55pm.
or just comparing ant's actions to those committed by a left leaning Democrat on a conservative website?
MD
Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:26pm.
The title of the report you linked is (their caps, not mine) "REPORT OF INVESTIGATION OF ALLEGATIONS RELATING TO INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE HANDLING OF TAX-EXEMPT ORGANIZATION MATTERS"
We are talking about Clintons using the IRS to target their enemies, not tax-exempt organizations.
It was mostly tax exempts which were claiming improper
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:04pm.
targeting by Clinton for political reasons.
Jer
Okay, Jer, I'll buy that,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:15pm.
but what about the individuals who were allegedly targeted? They shouldn't be ignored, should they?
No, they shouldn't, CX...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:22pm.
And I believe the committee found some random instances of questionable contact--although even those were disputed--but not a pattern of IRS misuse or inappropriate political targeting by the administration.
Jer
I've looked through the report, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:44pm.
and come to the conclusion that the decisions of any committee dealing with an IRS issue that includes Charlie Rangel as a member are highly suspect.
And, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:41pm.
I've skimmed through the Starr Report including doing a search on "IRS" and can't find anywhere in the report where Starr addressed and cleared Clinton of charges that the IRS was being used to target his enemies. Could Starr have addressed those issues in another document?
Being a retired barrister, and leaning left, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:03pm.
no doubt believes implicitly that liberals, under oath, invariably tell the truth.
Being under oath, and all.
MD
CX...re Starr and IRS misuse
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:59pm.
I thought the issue was addressed by Robert Ray, Starr's successor, in his final report [along with Filegate, travel office, and Whitewater] but if he did I can't locate it. Apparently the congressional committee report on the IRS matter and the Ray report were released on the same day so that may explain some of the confusion--at least my confusion.
That leaves Shay's comments in 1998 about Starr "clearing" Clinton regarding IRS and FBI, and I have no idea what he had in mind.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:19am.
I'll rummage around tomorrow and see what I can find.
Me too, CX...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:26am.
cya later.
Jer
Remind me again, Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:00pm.
how absolutely vital and essential it is to provide links to sources in order to be taken seriously on this website.
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
You funny guy.
MD
Bingo
Submitted by kilrod on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:35pm.
"and jeringo was his name"~~~~^ ROFLMAO_~>
(grins) kilrod "the Birther"
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
see Jer*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:41pm.
Told ya so...;-)
No worries, cajun...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:45pm.
It's what I live for. ;-)
Jer
Yep, Jer thrives on this kind of stuff.
Submitted by 26CX on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 11:58pm.
It's his raison d'etre.
Admit it, CX...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:08am.
You love it, too. :-)
Jer
edited to insert "d" in admit. Can't afford mistakes like that with Dean in the neighborhood.
I like it, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:07am.
But not enough to spend the better part of 3 days debating "yea" VS "yeah".
Since you mentioned it, CX...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 6:14pm.
How do you spell "yeah" and pronounce "yea"?
;-)
Jer
C'mon, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 12:15am.
be honest.
You know I let typos slide.
Generally.
Well, occasionally.
MD
Well, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 6:15pm.
I remember once, back in '09...
;-)
Jer
It would be 99% of the time
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:40pm.
Under any other circumstance, you'd be correct. But right about now, I have very little sympathy with Queen Michelle.
Doing things to support the fight against child obesity is one thing, but repeatedly lecturing the American people and talking down to us on the subject is more than I can take. I'm a runner, for Shahinshah's sakes. When I hear this pompous creature demanding the rest of us "Be healthy!" and shaking Her finger in our faces the whole time, I say the same thing: "Let's see our Queen run 50 feet, much less 50 yards. Yeah, she's lecturing the rest of us, but I can smoke that lard-ass and not break a sweat."
The repeated insults by the ruling family to the crowd that typically watches NASCAR events is yet another thing.
And not to be outdone, she is only recently proud to be an American.
She's earning, and getting, what she deserves. I hate saying this more than you know. But it's sad but true.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Jill Biden is polarizing and extremely unpopular.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:33pm.
Yeah, let's go with that.
The Mrs. O-Bots don't believe it happened: " Out of hundreds attending, maybe one hillbilly said boo."
That was one loud-ass hillbilly.
Proof positive that they
Submitted by ThePickle on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:08pm.
Proof positive that they didn't actually see the incident and that they are simply echoing talking points is their assertion that there were only "hundreds" in attendence.
SOL
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:30pm.
Reading those comments I just threw up a little in my mouth. I can't help but wonder if some of those comments originate in the White House. They are that sickening.
Yeah, they got booed-who's
Submitted by helomech on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:31pm.
Yeah, they got booed-who's surprised here? It pisses the people off that these two hide behind the notion of supporting the military and their families....
They should have booed Jer instead!
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:10pm.
Hey, genius, when someones insulting you for the past 4 years, and then suddenly-with an election coming up soon-tried to butter you up, at an event which she had no purpose being there, and then gets insulted by the reaction by us commoners and peasants, how else would you THINK we'd react?
And I only say we cause I stand by my fellow Americans. Of course, I wasnt there, or watched it, cause NFL was on, which is THE sport of the US! And Josh should have realized that, as he was an anchor on ESPN's Sports Center for many years!
I wish they had booed me instead.
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:42pm.
But, you're right. There was no purpose for her being there. Well, except that promotion for hiring veterans deal, which I guess isn't all that important. At least the military children the First Lady spoke with didn't boo her. I hope the youngsters don't get in too much trouble.
BTW, you missed a great race.
Jer
That promotion for hiring veterans deal
Submitted by kata on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:57pm.
is not new. It's a reboot of the HireVetsFirst program.
I know, kata...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:19pm.
I learned that while watching the race yesterday.
Jer
She could have done this in
Submitted by ThisnThat on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 7:51pm.
She could have done this in private -- just like W does. But her ego wouldn't stand for that, would it?
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Shack!!!!!
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:41pm.
Game, Set, and Match to TnT.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Great idea, TnT...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:52pm.
Raise public awareness of the hiring the vets program by inviting the head of the organization to a secret meeting in the White House basement.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Jer
the public doesn't need to be aware
Submitted by kata on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:59pm.
It's part of your transition (exit package) when you retire or leave the service. You are given materials for being rehired as well as classes and information regarding transitioning your health insurance for the vet as well as the spouse.
Well what the heck is the role of the organization, kata?
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:05pm.
Why don't the showboats just keep out of sight and not interrupt the NASCAR championship.
Jer
yeah!
Submitted by kata on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:07pm.
you said it.
Why not Jer?*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:01pm.
Meeting in secret, getting half a billion dollars under the table from the" Dept of Energy", sounds like a plan to me.
Jobs saved/created for Veterans is a double win talking point.
^^Like^^
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:55pm.
Because Newsbusters doesn't have a like button, yet. For TnT's post, not Jer's.
Sorry Jer.
Gosh, UpNorth...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:59pm.
My heart skipped a beat.
Jer
Sorry, Jer...
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 8:57pm.
Looks like without that lib-troll Clevanite prowling the boards, you're now Newsbuster's favorite punching bag.
Scratch that, I spoke too soon.
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 9:01pm.
Looks like he hasn't gone away quite yet.
America owes this thieving
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 1:30am.
America owes this thieving hag nothing, she was not elected to anything, if she wants respect she can earn it. She was there soley pander to the bitter clingers.
Unclear!?!?!
Submitted by fatboy on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 9:21am.
It was as clear and unmistakable as her fat as*.
Not clear about booing
Submitted by truckinmann on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 9:38am.
It's clear to me... I'm surprised they didn't put this spin on it...How many times have I heard blacks use the word "boo" as a term of endearment....LMFAO! People hate her condescending attitude about how she knows what's best for you and your kids, and you don't know squat. Maybe it's because she said only 4 years ago that it was the first time in her life that she was proud of her country. Maybe it's because people just simply DO NOT LIKE HER! Quite simple to understand why she was booed really.
Let me explain it to all you lug heads who don't...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:08am.
understand why the "Worst" lady was booed.
The reason they booed is because...THEY DON'T LIKE HER!
it's not rocket science
Submitted by rowdygirl on Tue, 11/22/2011 - 11:43am.
My thoughts exactly !
Tam