Author Stephen King: Right-Wing 'Hate' of Obama Is Like Anger That Led to JFK's Murder
According to Stephen King, conservative "hate" of Barack Obama is similar to the anger that led to the assassination of John Kennedy. Appearing on Friday's Hardball to promote "11/22/63," his new novel, the author compared, "Here is where hate will get you eventually. This is what happens. Finally, it's the barrel of a gun."
Discussing his book, a work of historical fiction about stopping JFK's murder, King asserted, "And also, there's also been this sort of atmosphere of real hate and obstructionism that surrounded both men." He continued, "So, I began to think history repeats itself and at that point I thought to myself, 'You know I really would like to write this book.'" It took liberal anchor Chris Matthews to point out the obvious: Lee Harvey Oswald was no conservative.
Matthews explained, "Yeah, but it was a communist sympathizer. It was Lee Harvey Oswald, a man of the most extraordinary left by our standards who killed him. So, how do you put that together with the right-wing mood of Dallas?"
King dodged, "...But the fact is Oswald's communist tendencies were basically the outgrowth of a disturbed mind."
It's odd that Matthews would challenge King on this point. On October 28, 2011, he made almost exactly the same argument, saying of JFK on November 22, 1963, "[Kennedy] was living the life of an American politician, trying to figure things out politically, trying to figure out what was in the water down there in Dallas that made some people so viciously right-wing. An hour later, he was gone."
King made a similar point on the November 8 Today.
A transcript of the November 11 exchange can be found below:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓STEPHEN KING: And I started to think about it again in 2008, because there are a lot of parallels between John F. Kennedy and Barack Obama: The age. They're both young politicians. They both spent a short time in the Senate. They both have beautiful wives. They both have beautiful kids. And also, there's also been this sort of atmosphere of real hate and obstructionism that surrounded both men. So, I began to think history repeats itself and at that point I thought to myself, "You know I really would like to write this book." And one of the things I that I'd kinda like to say is "Here is where hate will get you eventually. This is what happens. Finally, it's the barrel of a gun."
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Yeah, but it was a communist sympathizer. It was Lee Harvey Oswald, a man of the most extraordinary left by our standards who killed him. So, how do you put that together with the right-wing mood of Dallas?
KING: Well, it's certainly a contrast between the mood, and I think a lot of people in Dallas assumed at the time that it was somebody right-wing or that it was somebody associated with the CIA, or this, that and the other thing, but the fact is Oswald's communist tendencies were basically the outgrowth of a disturbed mind. He was somebody who wanted to be famous. When he and Marina flew back to the United States- well, they came back on a ship, but they flew from New Jersey to Fort Worth to be with Lee's brother Robert, he told Marina all the things that they were supposed to say when they were greeted at the airport by throngs of reporters. And when nobody showed up, he was a really unhappy camper. He was a fame junky.
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down the memory hole.... again
Submitted by wizardjr on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:17am.
Does this idiot not remember the JFK was killed by a lefty - a practicing communist? How the heck then does 'right wing hate' cause a lefty to kill???
"Oh my, what a maroon." - Bugs Bunny
My thought exactly: Leftists
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:30am.
My thought exactly: Leftists are attempting to rewrite history to make Oswald a right-winger. In their eyes, if he wasn't an extreme right winger, he should have been, because everyone "knows" that only right-wing extremists hated Kennedy.
And they actually believe this crap.
And don't forget
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 1:13pm.
In April of 1963, Oswald attempted to assassinate General Edwin Walker, a right-winger and member of the Birch Society. Oswald HATED everything and ANYTHING related to conservatism. He was a RABID communist/marxist. Stephen King is really good at writing fiction, and thus he embraces liberal politics - the politics of fiction.
Remember...
Submitted by pcnav on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 10:51pm.
Remember that King was a hit and run victim a few years back. He was hit by a van while he was walking along the road. His mind hasn't been very clear since then. I think he was brain damaged in the incident.
Uh huh. I'd like to ask
Submitted by winston smith on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:36am.
Uh huh. I'd like to ask blatant hypocrite Stephen King about his leftwing hatred of Geroge Bush. Was that perfectly okay, Stephen? Or don't you think your publicly stated wish to have Jenna Bush waterboarded is an example of leftist hate? Is Stephen King serious or what? Or maybe he's just becoming a little forgetful in his dotage.
The progressive...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:41am.
disease can infect even the finest minds. King went straight retarded when he started doing political commentary for Entertainment Magazine.
You gotta understand the
Submitted by BD on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:21pm.
You gotta understand the Stephen King is an expert on threats that never were.
Vampires?
Murderous Cars?
Murderous spiders that masquerade as clowns?
And now threats to Obama from the right wing......
I don't know...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:06am.
what threats exist if not from the right wing? The CRAZY RIGHT WING NUTS!!!!!
oh...and right wingnuts are crazy and stuff
Sorry...
Submitted by pcnav on Mon, 11/14/2011 - 11:58am.
Speak english next time so we can understand you.
I understand....
Submitted by ridunculous on Mon, 11/14/2011 - 3:34pm.
bad jokes are bad jokes :) Sarcasm is often mistaken.
I'd say...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:37am.
King should stick to writing books, but he hasn't produced anything good in a long time. It hurts me to say that because I used to be a huge fan. It, The Stand and The Shining are some of my all time favorites. Darned shame.
talk about rewriting history
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:40am.
It was Southern segregationist democrats who were hating on JFK.
Rightwing and Leftwing was not even a topic of discussion back then. The only reference to political position was whether a person was a Communist sympathizer, a pinko.
Was JFK a good president?
Submitted by pcnav on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 10:59pm.
Thinking back to the presidency of JFK I can't think of one thing he accomplished that was great.
1. Back of Pigs - disaster!
2. Cuban missile crisis - brought about because Khrushchev perceived him as a weakling and therefore thought he could get away with missiles in Cuba.
Those were the highlights of his presidency yet today democRATS think he was a president on par with Washington and Lincoln. I don't see it.
If his brother Teddy was any indication...had he lived he would have been even more disastrous. Today Teddy is remember by democRATs as the Lyin' Liberal of the Senate. Or was that the Liberal Lyin' in the Senate?
JFK was neither the mythic demigod of his hagiographers,
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 11:21pm.
nor the incompetent and feckless knave portrayed by his detractors. Somewhere in between. But a good president.
Jer
Okay...
Submitted by pcnav on Mon, 11/14/2011 - 11:57am.
Tell us about the good. What did he do that was good?
Space program maybe? Nah...anyone could have funded that. Foreign policy? Nah...Cuba and Vietnam come to mind. setting moral standards? Nah... Marylin Monroe and a few other women come to mind.
Come back Jer and tell us about the good.
So to be a communist you
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:53am.
So to be a communist you have to have a disturbed mind. Thanks Steve for validating that point. Perhaps you can inform your violent OWS friends of their mental disturbances? Perhaps we should have heard from you during the 8 years of the Bush Presidency and the 8 years of the Reagan Presidency how the vile and anger which were a 1000 times more than anything Obama has suffered in his entire lifetime, let alone in his Presidency. But the affirmative action liberal waahmbulance brigade will never stop making excuses for their Messiah.
Nailed it.
Submitted by FearMonger on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:32pm.
Exactly right eaglewingz. If they keep using the word "HATE" in this context it's gonna lose it's punch, much like the now feeble word "RACIST". I've seen a lot of dissatisfaction, buyers remorse, even DISGUST with the current POTUS but... very very little risng to the level of actual HATRED. Now Bush, on the other hand, was (and IS) called an ignorant murderous monkey. Comparing the 'hate' directed at BO to the VENOM spewed at Dubya is like comparing the movie version of "IT" to the book.
The Dipstick Mr. King invokes images of violence that are ACTUALLY taking place right here right now... and NONE of it carried out by the objects of his loathing. Give these OWS pukes a couple of more weeks and let's just see how many leftwingers still choose to call to mind 'the barrel of a gun'.
JFK wanted to end the FED
Submitted by Vonu on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:54am.
He was doing so with his silver certificates program. That ended with JFK. As long as O heels to the FED he'll
be fine.
No one has more hate than
Submitted by buddyc on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:56am.
No one has more hate than Stephen King. The only guys I can think of with more hate would be Roger Ebert or Mike Lupica. King, Ebert and Lupica should not be allowed to own weapons.
JFK was killed by a communist.
RFK was killed by a muslim extremist.
It's sad to see someone lose their sanity
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:59am.
right before your eyes. Oh well.
I am guessing King
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:07pm.
Doesnt know that JFK was killed by a commie
King
Submitted by NewLife56 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:08pm.
about a year and a half ago I took every one of the movies based on his books I had and threw them in the garbage, I burnt his books in a bonefire, this man is pure evil and a joke. I'll never buy or download or read anything about this person ever again, by the way Stephen? You don't seem to have a problem spending all the money you made, JERK!!!
Obama will come out of his debacle just fine, with nary a shot
Submitted by nonncom on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:28pm.
fired at him.....he hasn't threatened the Fed, and they are the most likely candidates to kill a president....Kennedy and Lincoln were both Fed opponents, and tried to print government money, along with Andrew Jackson, who the Fed tried to kill 7 times....I know, that's all circumstantial, but it's very circumstantial.....I say if it hasn't already happened, it most likely won't.....
Interesting theroy
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 1:22pm.
That's an interesting theory. But what about Ford and Reagan? Did they, too, fall victim to the FED assassination squads? Don't forget about those two attempted assassinations.
Oh, and by the way, Lincoln STARTED the Federal Reserve Bank, so I would hardly call him a threat to the Fed. The Fed, as we know it today, didn't even exist in Linclon's day.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Your grasp of history is a little tainted.....
Submitted by nonncom on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 2:46pm.
Lincoln proposed that congress control the currency, and ordered the printing of currency called greenbacks.....he was no fan of the central banks, and a lot of people believe that's what got him killed.....you have to understand, the Rothschildes controlled half the world's wealth at that point.....you really think they were going to stand by and let the colonies blow it for them?....LOL.....Jackson was successful in putting the Fed down, with some theorizing that the Rothschides actually financed the British in the war of 1812 to "put the colonies in their place".....the central bank, or the Fed, was re-established in 1816, I believe.....all was well until Lincoln had to finance the war against the south....Kennedy had the same run in with the Fed, printing US backed Silver Certificates....the Fed didn't care much for that move, either....Ford and Reagan were a little random to be blamed on any group, but there is evidence linking Boothe as an agent of the Rothschildes.....of course, the Warren commission botched the Kennedy investigation so badly nobody will ever know the truth....it is not beyond the pale to think that the single wealthiest origination in the world would balk at the interference of what gains them that wealth....
The Banksters are still protecting their interests(pun intended)
Submitted by antiObamunist on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 6:51pm.
Muhamar Ghadafi was pushing for oil to be traded in gold dinar(sp). He was in negotiation with other muslim oil producing countries and the western bankers could not let that happen. It seems the Obama doctrine to protect was really protection for western bankers and their economies.
Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4n0J19yFMY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8RyUAEkSc8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Conspiro Alert....
Submitted by BD on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 8:44pm.
Oh lord, we have a conspiro here..... Nothing to see here folks, just move along...
"The pentamerate, made up of the queen, the vatican, and the Colonell before he went tits up! With his wee beady eyes, ‘ohh you wanna buy my chicken, ohhh’ …he puts an addictive chemical in your chicken that makes crave your fork nightly, SMART ASS!!!
I am not generally a conspiro BD
Submitted by antiObamunist on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 7:36pm.
Take your head out of you rectum and consider the enormous amount of interest paid through our history to private secret banks and you may see motive opportunity and means to keep the system going. Government spending on wars, nanny state and general waste only serve to boost the bottom line for corrupt central banks. No I don't sympathize with OWS, but this issue is one I do agree with occutards.
P.S . I can't stand chicken
Head is out of rectum and
Submitted by BD on Mon, 11/14/2011 - 3:00pm.
Head is out of rectum and curerntly doing a bit of analysis.
Your position is based on a fallacy.
The fallacy being that private banks prefer uncertainty provoked by crisis in order to move their funds higher.
THis is NOT the case. Such banks prefer certainty as a method to acquire profit. THerefore you would find such groups seeking less conflict rather than more.
So, yes your position is a conspiro one.
If you wish to discuss other conspiro' positions (Big foot, Area - 51, WTC, UFO's over Phoenix, etc) feel free...
still dont get it
Submitted by antiObamunist on Tue, 11/15/2011 - 9:37pm.
My post said nothing about uncertainty. In fact it didn't concern normal banking operation or economic conditions but now that you brought it up, how much interest do you think all war deficits generated for the FED?
Maybe you can make the case that they didn't profit from FDRs' new deal spending during the greatest uncertainty yet seen by the country. Enlighten us all how the FED hasn't profited from LBJs' great society or Carters massive printing of notes and the subsequent obcene interest rates required to stamp out inflation.
Of course its not just Dems but they are much more profitable and likely the reason they controlled the house of reps for so long before Newt. Then after balancing the budget fell into disfavor and was squashed.
Bankers just love governments that borrow and pay interest especially wars when they can finance both sides, but since political realities wont allow all out war they will suffice with social spending. Remember that they not only profit from the Fed but also many the companies that benefit from the spending.
Now they have dropped the line in the political waters and hooked the greatest whale ever in Obama.
Follow the money, it is not a conspiracy it is right in front of your face.
P.S. I am booking a trip to search for the Loch Ness monster with layover Bigfoot territory.…
Stephen King - So, let me get this straight ..
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:33pm.
. . . this hate and intolerance of others that Stephen King is out promoting will get you to the point of seeing the barrel of a gun? Rape and violence? Destruction of property?
Yes indeed - we're seeing it played out now -- via Occupy Wall Street.
Only - it's his side promoting the hate and intolerance and violence.
(;~/ gary
It's funny...
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 1:08pm.
"And also, there's also been this sort of atmosphere of real hate and obstructionism that surrounded both men. "
Geez, that sounds an awful lot like Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and both Bush's. I haven't forgotten the hatred the left displayed towards those men.
It's funny that liberals like King always refer to the JFK assassinations when trying to convince people of the dangers of those crazy, hateful conservatives but never seem to mention the attempted assassinations of two Republicans, Ford and Reagan.They also never mention that three of the four Presidents who were assassinated were Republicans. It's like that part of American History never happened.
Note: I didn't include the attempted assassination of Bush overseas, for that had little to do with American inter-party politics, but I do remember the liberals reaction to that attempt; which was disappointment for its failure. So tell me again who the hateful ones are?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
let me get this straight-
Submitted by agingcynic on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:50pm.
Steven King says that Obama can't have an opinion worthy of opposition based purely on its intellectual fallacies are WE are the racists? Poor guy needs the intellectual training wheels of the race card and WE are the racists? He has done for the intellectual reputation of the Univ. of Maine what the Boston Strangler did for door-to-door salesmen......
Mr. King
Submitted by Darks Shadow Show on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:58pm.
Mr. King,
Please read a history book for once rather than remaining in the fantastical worlds you've created for yourself.
The thing that I always liked
Submitted by tobiasdog on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 1:18pm.
The thing that I always liked about Kings older works was that outside of the obvious supernatural aspects, the circumstances and characters seemed so real. But everything he has written lately is so insanely and unrealistically left-wing that it is impossible to read without being insulted if you are even slightly conservative.
I, like a lot of ex-fans of his will NEVER spend a red cent on anything that will promote or enrich this piece of sh1T HACK ever again, so disappointing that so many in the field of arts and entertainment do not care if they alienate over half of the population!
FOOLS!!!
King's best days are long gone
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 1:33pm.
I agree. I was re-reading a collection of his short stories from the 80's (I think), so much better than the drivel he writes now. He's done, has been for awhile, he just doesn't know it.
Stupid Man; Stephen King
Submitted by rammingspeed on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 1:21pm.
King's been a looney tune since he was in college, a down and dirty hippie marching with the screaming anarchists of the '60s. Brain power, yes. Talent, yes. But he believes things that aren't true, which makes him stupid. What a waste.
the country was more united back then
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 2:34pm.
From Wiki.... notice the absence of any so-called Rightwing extremists:
There has long been suspicion of a government cover-up of information about the assassination of John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. There are also numerous conspiracy theories regarding the assassination that arose soon after his death and continue to be promoted today. Most put forth a criminal conspiracy involving parties as varied as the CIA, the KGB, the American Mafia, the Israeli government, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, sitting Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson, Cuban president Fidel Castro, anti-Castro Cuban exile groups, the Federal Reserve, or some combination of those entities.
The deep divisions in the country began with the emergence of the radical Boomers of the sixties. This country as most countries had its share of Leftist/Communist elements but they were far too small in number to make any difference. Now they control a major political party and the country is at war with itself.
Stephen King
Submitted by Scott Trent on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 2:41pm.
His books are GREAT... Who knew King could be so STUPID when it comes to politics.
Accomplished his goal
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 2:43pm.
King has accomplished his goal. There will be discussions on the tube as to whether Oswald was a liberal or conservative. Soon he will be turned into a right wing nut by members of the Lame Stream Media.
King
Submitted by Scott Trent on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 3:01pm.
Maybe the Radical 60`s HIPPIE King should be smart enough to figure out WHY the right hates on Obama. It`s the Obama Radical Marxist, Class Warfare, Fundamental Destruction of America agenda with no jobs and no growth, King.
One paragraph
Submitted by pockets64 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:35pm.
King has written exactly one paragraph in the past 20 years that's been worth reading.
I'm conflicted
Submitted by compguytracy on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 6:40pm.
Have loved King since i picked up It in 1987 Coming back from Army training in OK, and i love the writer, almost have read every book, and seen every movie. He also guest appeared on Sons of Anarchy series. But his blowhard opinions suck, I actually am digging new book, so far so good, under the dome draged like no other. But i hate saying this, kudos to prissy for pointing out obvious communist left wing bs that killed jfk, and blobama would never ride through Dallas, or anywhere else with the top down.
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?" Orwell, 1984
Ceteris paribus
Lee Harvey Oswald
Submitted by tdabbs on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 7:53pm.
... was a hater alright, but he was a Communist, and JFK was not left enough for him. What that has to do with people to the right of center disliking Obama is not clear at all.
Steven has been taking logic lessons from Debbie Wasserman-Schultz....
Always thought GWBush and JFK were similar
Submitted by exLib on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 8:46pm.
JFK lowered taxes GWBush lowered tax
JFK started Vietnam to fight the spread of communism. Bush invaded Iraq to stop SH, have a wedge against Iran, and a strong stage to fight radical Islam.
JFK was a staunch Cathollic, Bush was a staunch Evangelical Christian. Both were savagely attacked by the Atheistic Press for it.
JFK was strong on National Defense as was GW Bush.
JFK was a staunch Catholic?
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 10:17pm.
Considering his personal behavior, I would say that he certainly labeled himself a Catholic, but didn't adhere to its tenets. But then, I'm not a Catholic, so its up to them to decide for themselves whether JFK was a staunch member of the Faith.
As for starting US involvement in South Vietnam, actually US military advisors and aid had arrived during the Eisenhower Administration. JFK began boosting the numbers of advisors -- especially US Special Forces in '62 -- during his Administration.
Also, Galvanic...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 11:05pm.
I know I've posted this before, but we were significantly underwriting the French and their military efforts to maintain a colonial foothold in Indochina during the Truman administration.
Jer
Oh, one more thing. I recall reading that VP Nixon--during the late 50's--was one of the first high government officials to advocate sending ground troops into Vietnam. [I can pretty much trace all of the ills that afflict the nation back to the "Trickster".]
Matthews wasn't making the same argument as King...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 9:36pm.
but he was guilty of sloppy and misleading rhetoric by mentioning right-wing hatred in Dallas and Kennedy's murder in the same breath. By doing so, one could reasonably infer he was tying the sentiment and the act together. Technically, Matthews was correct. But the implication wasn't.
Jer
M I R R O R.......
Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:52am.
.......P L E A S E!!!!!!!!
(THE M.O. of the one called "jer, the lawyer") UN frkinbelIEVABLE!!!!!
who knew
g
Stick to horror
Submitted by TXTRUTH on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:32pm.
Sorry Mr. King but if you would open your eyes and mind it's not hard to see all the hate is coming from the left. Just look at the comments of Bill Maher.
By Mr. King's own theory, as
Submitted by big.league.slider on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:14pm.
By Mr. King's own theory, as a Democrat his professed hatred of GW Bush is the same type of anger that led to the killing of Abraham Lincoln, a Republican. In case you went to a US public school, John Wilkes Booth was a northeastern Democrat, and a fairly well paid member of the arts community.
I don't know about your school, b l s, but
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:27pm.
in my public school we learned Booth was a Marylander which was nowhere near the northeastern US.
Jer
Good evening Jer
Submitted by cocodrie on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:49pm.
Anyplace north of Bogalusa and east of the Mississippi River is the northeastern US.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Good evening, cocodrie...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:53pm.
I understand that's what they still teach in the Louisiana public school system. :-)
Jer
Jer
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:03am.
That's about it and I didn't even mention that foriegn country what y'all call Chicago.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
cocodrie---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:50am.
Maryland is northeast of your residence in LA, it is northeast of my residence in CA, and it is northeast of Jer's residence in GA, as well.
Therefore, it IS in the northeast.
MD
And North Carolina is to the north and east of GA,
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 4:20pm.
so I guess that means the predominant political affiliation of its Civil War era citizenry was "northeastern Democrat".
Sheesh!
Jer
rephrase
Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:47am.
.....and "I understand that's what they still teach in the Louisiana public(/GOV'T indoctrination) school system. :-)..
...there, that ought to do that. Puyrfect!!
g
It is compared to California, where I'm from.
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 4:30am.
I believe Maryland did side with the North but because it was a "border" state, many who lived there were "Southern" sympathizers, as was Booth.
It is definitely an "Eastern" state.
jaw---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 4:36am.
I just finished a book by the eminent British military historian, John Keegan, entitled "The American Civil War."
You are right about Maryland.
MD
Matthew...NOBODY
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 4:59pm.
claimed Maryland was not an Eastern state.
But it is not and never was considered one of the northeastern states of the USA [even though it is indeed to the north and east of a number of states] nor was Booth considered a "northeastern Democrat".
Jer
Climb down off your high horse, Jer, before---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:07pm.
you fall off and hurt yourself.
I never said that you, or anyone else, claimed Maryland was not an eastern state.
I also never said that Maryland was one of the northeastern states.
Additionally, I never claimed that John Wilkes Booth was considered a northeastern Democrat.
What I pointed out was, that Maryland is east and north of cocodries home state of Louisiana, my home state of California, and your current place of residence, Georgia.
That puts Maryland in the northeast relative to the geographical locations of the persons involved; you, me, and cocodrie, in this little exchange.
Your apparent desire to be seen as the last authority on these threads reference the Civil War and Southerners (among other of life's oddities regarding politics), leads you to rush into some odd inferences, some strange conclusions, and some off the wall posts relative the subject at hand.
Pay attention; I say, pay attention, boy.
MD
Watch him, MD, he's got a Gatling gun.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:14pm.
Thankfully, he's only packing one live round, but you never know.
SoL---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:24pm.
A .50 caliber vocal mechanism, trained in the law; but loaded with .22 rim-fire liberal ammo.
Oh, the humanity.
MD
But big league slider did, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:46pm.
"...In case you went to a US public school, John Wilkes Booth was a northeastern Democrat, and a fairly well paid member of the arts community..."
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2011/11/11/stephen-king-righ...
He explicitly claimed Booth was a northeastern Democrat, and since Booth was born and raised in Maryland, b l s implicitly claimed Maryland was a northeastern state. Those were the issues, and that's what I addressed.
So heed thine own advice about paying attention, mister. ;-)
Jer
Nobody, Jer, meaning of those I specifically---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:59pm.
listed: cocodrie, you, and me.
- or-
- cocodrie, you, and I.
A minor communication glitch misunderstanding on your part, to be sure; so I shall forgive you as I only have to cross swords with the occasional troll (in between major duels with you), while you must do daily battle with the majority of conservatives at NB's. :o)
Carry on.
MD
John Wilkes Booth was a Southerner and a Southern...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 4:23am.
sympathizer. He was among many of his time (mostly Democrats) who hated Abraham Lincoln, a Republican.
Booth, a Democrat, was also a liberal as are so many in the "arts" community and he was a forerunner of the present day Hollywood community, many of whom hate George W. Bush, a Republican, just as he, Booth, hated Lincoln.
People forget now, but people in the arts community (mostly Democrats) were vicious in their hatred towards Bush as evidenced by what they said, wrote and put up on stage and screen.
Looking over recent and not so recent history, violence (Bill Ayers, the Unibomber, the Arizona shooter, Occupiers, et al) almost always comes from the left and almost all are Democrats.
Why King, a Democrat, thinks just the opposite is baffling to me, unless he is doing what so many liberals do and that is "project"!
Webster...pro-slavery Democrats were not "liberals".
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 4:45pm.
The anti-slavery radical Republicans, which comprised the Abolitionist wing of the party, were heavily concentrated in New England, i.e. the several states [Massachusetts, Maine, N.H., R.I. etc.] of the northeastern region of the United States, and it would not be a misnomer to call them "liberals".
Maryland, a slave and border state [mostly pro-Union but also home to many with southern sympathies] was neither geographically nor ideologically within that camp.
Oh, and your violence/Democrats connection: A load of crap.
Jer
I doubt you were around in the mid 1860's, Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:20pm.
so your "load of crap" notation about a violence/Democrats connection is no more than a modern liberal Democrats anecdotal load of crap.
The violence/Democrats connection has had almost a century and a half to be refined and enacted; or are you going to deny the evidence of same presented so many times right here in NewsBusters articles?
MD
Stick To What You Do Best
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:18am.
Mr. King, go write another horror story or film I'll never read or watch now because you're such a flaming liberal. Yup, I'm one of those who boycott the likes of you for shooting off your mouth.
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http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Stephen K
Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:58am.
and his WHOLE WORLD involve a fantasy..........'nuff said.
just like the "left coast"(1% ers)...so what else is new
g
Steve, life ain't a novel that you are writing.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 3:09am.
Some of your drivel has been bad enough, but going into the conspiracy nonsense and tipping against conservative windmills make me wonder how hard that car smacked you so many years ago?! Without negating the consequences of your accident with that car, how in the world can you equate the two without sounding like a complete psychotic?
If he is stupid enough to believe his own PR, it is time to stop writing and start doing honest work like selling shoes or cleaning out the grease pit at a fast food restaurant. At least the last two occupations serve an honest purpose and do not try to bamboozle the public with drivel.
I have never and I will never buy a book written by this guy.
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 3:19am.
How could anyone ever read and believe what he writes when he gets real life so ass backwards? Hey Mr. King, listen to what your friends on the left are saying, starting with Bill Maher.
It is the left who are the haters, not the right and it is the left who are causing violence with their "Occupy" movement in sharp contrast to the peaceful and orderly "Tea Party" movement!
Why are so many on the the left such downright jerks?
When did Communists become
Submitted by Thoreau on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 7:38am.
When did Communists become Right Wing? Fking moron.
I used to like King's books -
Submitted by KalihiwaiBeach on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:02pm.
I used to like King's books - but since he got hit by a car he has turned into a more nerdy bleeding-heart liberal - just proves liberalism is a brain malfunction
Left wing history
Submitted by Emil on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 7:21pm.
The obvious is that if history doesn't reflect what liberal/leftists thinks it should, they just rewrite it to suit their purposes.
Left Wing Death Threats
Submitted by sqt on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:19pm.
If the media bothered to report anything truthfully then maybe King would be aware of the leftist support for the untimely death of Sarah Palin. Though I suspect he already knows all about those-- it just doesn't count as hate if it's against a conservative; especially if the target is a woman or black.
Fool
Submitted by BH206L3 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:27pm.
Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marxist, he tried to kill General Walker and missed, He was a looser looking to make a name for himself. It was an easy 60 yard going way shot, at a man who was so trussed up that he could not do anything but sit upright after the first hit and the second hit killed him. While I never thought much of JFK, I know pretty much he was more myth than anything of any kind of substance of that day. In 2011 JFK would have to be a Republican because there is no room in his party today for him. Even my dislike of the man, was shame that he was murdered, my main issue with JFK was not personal, it was who his Vice President was. That guy was the real danger to the Republic. How the heck can a fellow that is not stupid and can write the way he dose, can spout such stupid stuff. Lee Oswald was such a nut job even the KGB wanted nothing to do with him and when the Soviet fell, one of the things Yelsin did was go into the archives, the Russians don't throw nothing away, to make sure they had nothing to do with it. It was a tragic thing, nobody is going to take a shot at the current president, what for, he is going to loose in the next election, Leftist like king know it or they would not shoot their mouths off like this. Its the same old same old when the Equate the conservatives in the country with the NAZIS. Except that in real life, the NAZIS with just a few minor differences were pretty much carbon copies of the Soviets. He really needs to stop using what ever recreational drug that he is doing.
I've said it before
Submitted by UndercoverConse... on Tue, 11/15/2011 - 9:59pm.
the Left WANTS an assassination attempt on Obama. Even failed, they can milk it for gun control and all sorts of sympathy. And if it is, God forbid, successful? A martyr will buy them elections for decades, and we can see the Obama spawn guaranteed a position of power. Perhaps his relatives too.
Those with the greatest to gain in an attempt on Obama's life are HIS OWN PARTY.
And as I've also said before, any conservative would willingly throw himself in the path of a bullet to protect Obama so he can finish his term in shame and fade away instead of being a Democrat "Hero" for generations of schoolchildren and movies and other brainwashing.
Obama MUST survive. No attempt on his life must be allowed to be made. We should all be his Fedaykin.
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