MSNBC's Truther Slams Islam-'Hating' U.S. and Its '9/11 Nostalgia Mill'
MSNBC analyst-- and 9/11 truther-- Touré appeared on Friday's Dylan Ratigan Show to complain about the September 11th "nostalgia mill" promoted by the media. He also smeared the entire country as bigoted against Muslims.
In his commentary, Touré fumed, "We're a nation that's comfortable hating all of Islam and fights against mosques being built within a certain proximity of Ground Zero. And by a certain proximity, I mean within the continental United States."
[See video below. MP3 audio here.]
He continued, "And now we're a nation with a media that wants to trot out the old stories, all that 'where were you when the planes hit' stuff? 'Remember that crazy day' stuff? Like we're in AA telling each other our stories."
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Why, exactly, would MSNBC bring on a 9/11 truther to complain about September 11th coverage? A larger question: Why would MSNBC employ a 9/11 truther as an analyst? Shouldn't Ratigan have explained to his viewers who Touré is?
Here are examples of Touré tweeting his beliefs:
Van Jones was forced to resign partly bc questions the truth of 9/11 but that Pentagon attack is really fishy... [Link to tweet]
How could a plane crash into the Pentagon? And not appear on video cameras?? And leave little wreckage??? #Don'tbuyitfiremenow. [Link to tweet]
This fascinating video raises questions about the Pentagon attack: 757 or missle? http://bit.ly/12AOlN [Link to tweet]
(For more on Touré, see a previous NewsBusters blog. To contact Touré on Twitter, go here.)
Ratigan, who introduced Touré, seemed at least somewhat uncomfortable with the topic. After the commentary, he claimed to "agree," but there were several long, awkward pauses in their exchange. Ratigan noted, "It's an interesting situation, because I just did an hour show on 9/11."
A transcript of the September 09 segment, which aired at 4:55pm EDT, follows:
DYLAN RATIGAN: Now, with his thoughts on the tenth anniversary, our friend Touré.
TOURÉ: We are once again in the midst of the 9/11 nostalgia mill, the annual ritual where print and television media churn out remembrances and images of 9/11. But, this year, the tenth anniversary, there's an extra intensity. More pages, more TV time being devoted to it as if there's a going out of business sale on 9/11 memories. I can almost see some media czar telling his troops, "All right, it's the tenth anniversary of the apocalypse, boys. This could be our last chance to use this stuff. Let's unload the vaults!" And I gotta tell you, the 9/11 nostalgia thing is weirding me out. We must remember the dead, the innocents who were in the tower, the valiant ones on the plane, intrepid and courageous first responders who went into areas most humans would run from and never came out. When I see those car window stickers that say never forget and show an image of the towers I want to salute. But this media 9/11 nostalgia isn't the same.
Nostalgia is generally a wish to relive happy moments. The media's 9/11 nostalgia, is it about remembering the dead or is it like a car crash gawking situation? Is it like, when people would come to New York and want to see Ground Zero as if the wreckage was some sort of tourist site? I refuse to take visiting friends to Ground Zero to see the massive hole in the ground. It's not a tourist site. A place where many people and a part of America died.
The America I lived in before that morning, before planes met towers, no longer exist in my mind or in anyone else's. We've changed in fundamental ways. We can no longer imagine a nation that would never be attacked on no longer feel totally free moving through America. We're kind of keeping one eye out for the other shoe to drop, for the next attack to come. We've been remaining vigilant because we're on the verge of another attack. We've been told that so many times I'm numb to it. Like the government is the boy who cried wolf. The America we knew died on 9/11, replaced by a nation mistrustful of its own citizens. When you go to the airport we're guilty until proven harmless, which can only be proven by getting near naked and being X-rayed and/or intimately padded down.
We're a nation that's comfortable hating all of Islam and fights against mosques being built within a certain proximity of Ground Zero. And by a certain proximity, I mean within the continental United States. And now we're a nation with a media that wants to trot out the old stories, all that "where were you when the planes hit" stuff. "Remember that crazy day" stuff? Like we're in AA telling each other our stories. Yeah, I know it's traumatic. I'm a New Yorker. I smelled the smoke days after. But, are we, as media people doing 9/11 nostalgia for a good human reason like to heal the wounds that remain? Or is it a tool to get people to watch and read, because fear sells and wallowing in the deep pool of 9/11 pain is good for business?
DYLAN RATIGAN: [Long, awkward pause.] I agree with you. It's an interesting situation, because I just did an hour show on 9/11.
TOURÉ: Do the people want it, or do we want to give it to them?
RATIGAN: I don't know that there's an answer to that question that I have. It may exist. I don't know it.
TOURÉ: I mean, if you did a normal show-
RATIGAN: I do, however- I do, however [long pause]- I think that at least in the our case, and it's easy to think that, that we try to have a conversation in a way that moves things forward. Whether it's the education, with Edie Lutnick and that sort of thing, but I am hopeful that your words go to [long pause]- I'm not even going to bother. We're on an attention based economy. Things accumulate attention will get programmed on television. Whether Kim Kardashian, the hurricane.
TOURÉ: Yes.
RATIGAN: 9/11, The Super Bowl.
TOURÉ: And this is going to get attention.
RATIGAN: And that makes money for media companies.
TOURÉ: But if we had done, you had done a normal show, talking about the banks, the jobs, the thing us normally love to talk about, would people have said, he's not talking about 9/11! My needs are not being sated"? I don't know.
RATIGAN: Me neither. [Very long pause.] It's nice to see you though. You've got a book out. We've got to talk about that sometime.
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Who is...
Submitted by JayVee on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:22pm.
Who is this Tour@ss, and why should anyone care what he thinks? A five year old has better analytical skills than this moron.
Oh, I forgot
Submitted by JayVee on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:24pm.
Sorry. I forgot he was on PMS-NBC. So nobody who can think was watching.
Tour@ss Who?
Submitted by pcnav on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:32pm.
Sorry, but I don't even care what this clown thinks. Inconsequential. I bet he thinks that fire can't melt steel either (just like Rosie O'donnell).
Fire and Rosie O'Donnell
Submitted by Flig Narson on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:11pm.
Oh, I think fire could melt Rosie O'Donnell, what with all the excess fat. Sorta like the idea...
somebody is missing their...
Submitted by Rackie on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:40pm.
trunk monkey
Get back under
Submitted by Bodini on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:25pm.
the camel dung heap you just crawled from. The Truth is a bunch of "peace loving middle-eastern Muslims" viciously slashed the throats of US air crews, took over some US airliners, and then flew them into buildings in the USA thereby killing thousands of innocent Americans and a couple of hundred foreigners. We will never forget that and I hope we continue to pursue and kill every Muslim terrorist that we can find. Put that in you dung pipe and smoke it ... A**-HOLE!
No TOURÉ....the country
Submitted by oldArmy on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:26pm.
No TOURÉ....the country doesn't hate muslims...the country just hates you!!
Feed into his paranoia.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:28pm.
Just tell Toure that we don't hate all Muslims, just him.
That's his name? Toure'? Why not something like Robert Adams?
Submitted by krendler on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:33pm.
And if the U.S. was a bunch of Muslim-hating bigots as he contends, the middle east would have been turned into glass on 9/12/2001. As it was, in the years that followed, we proved ourselves to be the most tolerant, restrained nation the world has ever witnessed.
and if we're so bigoted,
Submitted by sometimesright on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:25pm.
and if we're so bigoted, someone explain to me how we have muslim politicians, some of which discarded the Bible(an AMERICAN time-honored tradition) so they can swear on a koran. and as far as religious hate-crimes go......the jewish community suffers the most NOT MUSLIMS. these are tables for just 2009 Mr.Toure'. enjoy the beauty of freedom, the freedom to speak your bs without getting your head chopped off(other middle eastern countries come to mind).
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_01.html
I think this creep ought to
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:39pm.
I think this creep ought to go on a speaking tour of the mooooooooooooooooooslem countries, and give this same speech, excpet substitue 'America-hating', or 'Jew-hating', or 'infidel hating' as his main subject line. He'll get a whole lot more agreement over there than he's getting over here.
Of course, the mooooooooooooooslems might ignore him, just like us hateful Americans.
This Poor Ass
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:40pm.
has not credibility. He is some wacky that crawled out from under some rock and should be shown due respect (that is none).
My first thought was, " did
Submitted by inquiringmind on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:44pm.
My first thought was, " did they drag this guy out of his mon's basement and put a tie on him?"
Typical of Ratigan, find someone who's opinion doesn't matter and put him in front of the camera to prop up your story line.
So another clueless mental
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:44pm.
So another clueless mental defective brought out of the rubber room to be an MSNBC analyst. No big shock there.
"..and I mean built within
Submitted by ant on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 1:51pm.
"..and I mean built within the Continental United States.." Sorry, Touretes, how many mosques are there in New York? He's not only an idiot, but a liar, no wonder he's on MsNBC. The rest of his diatribe is too full of flaws to spend time on, it would make for a very long post to correct his and most other leftard idiocy.
Isn't he a two bit Comic?
Submitted by Tomorama on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:02pm.
You beat me too it Ant, there are PLENTY of Mosques being built and have been built since 9-11.
We just don't want to allow them to build a TROPHY MOSQUE.
Lying POS.
mosque = victory
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:06pm.
Tomo, a mosque is by definition a point of victory. That we have them in this country and the number is growing ought to be a bit alarming.
-Jon
Your point of supposed issue, not mine
Submitted by Tomorama on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 4:49pm.
Jon, this particular one WOULD BE A TROPHY MOSQUE and as the poster below noted, it is what they do to "announce victory" and have always DONE.
So you are saying we should have NO mosques?
That is your issue, not mine.
Not just my issue
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 7:42pm.
That's exactly what I'm saying because Islam has no place in a civilized world.
And it should be everyone's issue because it's not about a bunch of illiterate savages in the third worlds or anything like that, though there are plenty of them. It's about their hate for us and 9/11 showed us that hate in full technicolor. The 19 who did the deed came from well-off families. Hell, the Christmas would-be-bomber came from a rich banker's family and he would have been set for life, but somehow got converted to Islam and was convinced in trying to take an airline out of the sky that would have done severe damage on its approach to Detroit, a city already in bad shape before the auto factories closed.
Islam is the one religion(!? really a form of government) that can not co-exist with any other. At least we have some judges who are punishing those who kill their wives and daughters in honor killings, but there are more judges who are letting those things slide and let the killers off with a lesser punishment. And we have CAIR try to get their way more often than before that even though at times they have been rebuffed, it's only a matter of time before they are allowed as has already been happening in this country, and the very nature of Islam violates the Constitution in a number of ways. Hell, I'm still mystified that we have TWO congressmen(illegitimate in my view) because they swore on the Koran(rumor has it Soetoro swore on the Koran as well in secret, after all, the swearing in was supposedly botched) when they should have been tossed out on their ear!
So yes, there shouldn't be any mosques anywhere in this country. And before anyone suggests "what about Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, what about other religions?" I note again, Islam is not just a religion, it's a way of government, you can't have two governments in a country that has one government. Not only that, none of those religions would encourage death, slavery, and horrific forms of punishments. If it was a religion, why do they insist on implementing Sharia which is a form of government of Islam such as Iran? What's wrong with our own laws, what the hell are they here for if they don't want to live within our system? Therefore the answer is simple, they are trying to slowly instill themselves into our way of life before overcoming it, which is what they do. They are a patient lot, look how long it's taken for the UK to get where it is, as well as France with their Muslim population?
Sorry for the rant, but I wanted to explain myself. I'll understand if you choose to ignore this or whatever.
-Jon
Cultural "tolerance" is one of the fastest routs to extinction
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 10:09pm.
At a certain point, you lose your national identity and ultimately, your country.
We aren't quite there yet, but if we do not do something to reverse the mental disorder of political correctness that has infested this nation over the last 25+ years, we are going to find ourselves facing what our Europeon cousins are now staring squarely in the face.
Cultural and national annihilation.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
TROPHY MOSQUE!
Submitted by sometimesright on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 3:51pm.
nailed it Tomorama! that's the perfect word i've been searching for all this time. muslim conquests throughout history ALWAYS erect mosques dead center or on top of the capital or place of note of whatever land has been conquered.
we as americans have been tolerant beyond words. PERIOD.
Wow
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:02pm.
Good lord, this guy's got a few things backwards for a so-called "troofer."
Looks like Rat-Again was walking on eggshells around him.
I would compare something like this to what happened at Pearl Harbor, which was also a sneak attack of devastating proportions, only in this case, thousands of civilians were killed, not thousands of soldiers. That's the difference there. And we were attacked by a group of terrorists hellbent on changing our way of life, and they got it, they won because we let them due to our apparently extreme ignorance of the cult that is Islam.
Part of the extreme ignorance is not knowing(deliberately or otherwise) that a Mosque is a victory spot for Islam.
And boy, there is a lot of ignorance about Islam.
-Jon
Actually, I feel fairly comfortable...
Submitted by Flig Narson on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:13pm.
...with hating Islam and Islamists. Pork Chops to Islam! Uh-oh, now they'll put on their serious, frowny, Death-To-America faces and come after me with those nasty beheadin' swords.
"I'm so happening, I don't need a first name."
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:27pm.
.
Hey, it wasn't smurfs that
Submitted by jessieH on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 2:50pm.
Hey, it wasn't smurfs that attacked our country, it was muslims.
Go away.
Submitted by Morganfrost on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 3:51pm.
We're a nation where hate-crimes against Muslims are still outnumbered by hate-crimes against Jews. So, why is it that idiots like Tourette here manage to wallow in so much angst over hatred against Muslims? By all evidence, Islamophobia in this country is: a) largely justified by 9/11 and subsequent events; and b) largely without serious consequence to Muslims (they keep immigrating here, don't they?).
Sorry, buddy, but if the media is improperly obsessed with anything (besides getting Obama re-elected), it isn't 9/11-- it's pushing the Muslim angle on 9/11.
The reason the Twin Towers
Submitted by rbosque on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 6:56pm.
The reason the Twin Towers fell was because of Islamic hatred toward us.
This guy is a dumb and confused a*****e.
Hey Alfalfa
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 7:26pm.
Get a haircut and then kill yourself, moron.
The Obamination... A crisis leading to a catastrophe..(please donate to MRC)
just another Devil worshipper
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 7:37pm.
very simply Islam is Devil worship and Teh Prophet was The AntiChrist
And this little turd burgler can go pack sand.
Tweet
Submitted by Brad90956 on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 7:59pm.
So this moron tweets, "How could a plane crash into the Pentagon? And not appear on video cameras?? And leave little wreckage???
Let me answer the question for ya, moron.
1) The plane crashed into the Pentagon because it was hijacked and piloted by a terrorist that took flying lessons in the United States.
2) As for the video, when a plane is traveling at close to 500 mph and the camera takes 1 frame per second, you are not going to get a clear cut image of the plane.
3) Again, a plane hitting a concrete wall at close to 500 mph is not going leave a lot of wreckage. One wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass.
I love debunking all the 9/11 truthers' myths.