MSNBC's Ron Reagan Assails 'Lonely, Homophobic' Rick Santorum
Hardball guest host Ron Reagan on Wednesday assailed Rick Santroum as a "lonely, homophobic voice shrieking in the wilderness." The liberal MSNBC anchor attacked the Republican presidential candidate for his opposition to gay rights, wondering if Santorum wanted to return to the days when husbands could beat their wives.
Reagan mocked Santorum for defending "traditional" marriage, scolding, "Marriage has, in various times and places throughout history, been treated as a property arrangement with husbands, in effect, owning their wives as they would cattle. Is that the tradition Santorum seeks to revive?"
The son of former President Ronald Reagan continued, "In late 19th century America, men were entitled to beat their wives, as long as they used a stick with a circumference no larger than their thumb, the so-called rule of thumb. Does Santorum harbor a yen for corporal punishment?"
A transcript of Reagan's closing commentary can be found below:
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RON REAGAN: Let me finish tonight with Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum. Santorum is lately taken to comparing marriage equality to a choice of paper products. According to his whimsical logic, gay people mustn't be allowed the same opportunity to wed that straight couples enjoy, because, well, a paper towel is not a napkin. If only Santorum was a lonely, homophobic voice shrieking in the wilderness. But all the other Republican candidates, whether they choose Bounty or Brawny, have likewise signed on to defend the inappropriately-named Defense of Marriage Act, a law designed to solely disenfranchise gay couples. Even leaving aside the fact that some of us have been known on occasion to employ a paper towel as a napkin, it is an odd, nonsensical comparison. Santorum's larger point seems to reflect his discomfort with so-called traditional marriage being redefined. But what tradition does he have in mind?
Marriage has, in various times and places throughout history, been treated as a property arrangement with husbands, in effect, owning their wives as they would cattle. Is that the tradition Santorum seeks to revive? In late 19th century America, men were entitled to beat their wives, as long as they used a stick with a circumference no larger than their thumb, the so-called rule of thumb. Does Santorum harbor a yen for corporal punishment? Of course, Santorum and many of his anti-gay colleagues can do a lot better than paper towels. They're found of claiming that if gay people would be allowed to wed, we would have to allow polygamy, incest and bestiality. This is so absurd some people find it difficult to argue against. If you find yourself similarly flummoxed, just point out this very simple distinction. Laws against polygamy are non-exclusionary. Whether you are gay or straight, black or white, Christian or Muslim, you can't be married to more than one person at a time. Preventing gay people from exercising the same rights creates a separate, unequal class of people. It is exclusionary. That is the only meaningful distinction you need to keep in mind with- when arguing with people like Santorum. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is impossible to believe that marriage to the person of one's mutual choosing doesn't fall into one or more of those categories. Santorum and his friends might want to consider the meaning of the word unalienable.
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Intelligence does skip a
Submitted by buddyc on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:33pm.
Intelligence does skip a generation.
What is sad is that no one likes the guy, left or right, gays or straight. No one can stand someone who shits on a father's legacy.
President Reagan was very supportive of gays but while in office progressive gays (I call them gutter gays) treated him like dirt. They claimed he either started aids or refused to deal with it properly because he didn't like gays. Nothing could have further from the truth.
Very select
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:53pm.
RR is a member of a select group that could actually cause Tingles the Racer's viewers to miss him.
When is Ballet Boy Ron Junior going to end the suspense
Submitted by frank14 on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 10:04am.
and come out of the closet?
Is Ron Reagan Jr ...
Submitted by Fredy on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:03pm.
The reason that Nancy had a Just Say NO to DRUGS campaign?
Ron Reagan? RON REAGAN???
Submitted by theduck6 on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 7:06am.
Other than being the family member that they all whisper about , a failed brief stint in ballet and ,of course, The EUKANUBA Dog Show, why would anyone give a crapola what this flea says or thinks? ...and I use the term thinks with reservation.
Relevance
Submitted by MrLuigi on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:21pm.
Ron Reagan Jr. is as desperate for attention as a contestant on a "reality" show. His words are as relevant as those of a "Real Houswife from wherever." The only thing missing is the plastic surgery.
Does Jr think that American Wives are Property?
Submitted by Avitar on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:23pm.
The success of families raising children is of primary concern to societies as a whole. He is right that there have been societies that bought and traded wives but they aren't the United States or the North American colonies before the United States. Jr is holding the American families culpable for the faults of Muslim Societies and oriental cultures. In the meantime he is asking that the US adopt marriage that has not been official in a major culture since Julius Caesar.
We know that polygamous societies develop more violent tendencies then our society but it has been so many centuries since male to male bonding we do not know what that will promote. The ones in the past had lots of pedophilia and eunuchs but we don’t know what will happen.
What is your problem Junior?
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:24pm.
Ron like many others you seem to firmly believe that your position of support on everything on the gay/lesbian agenda is correct. I have another view of many of these positions and don't agree with you and don't have a problem with you having your views but I must ask what your problem with your father is?
Sometimes we come from exceptional heritage and should thank our lucky stars -- you and your sister seem to disagree.
"What is your problem Junior?"
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 7:15am.
I think he is a frustrated closeted gay.
Well, Junior was kicked out of his prep school,
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:25pm.
apparently was "invited" to not return to Yale, and, as Buddy said, crapped all over his father's legacy. Any wonder he's a "darling" of the left?
And, why should anyone pay any attention to this heterophobic "voice shrieking in the wilderness"?
The usual derangement
Submitted by russedav on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:37pm.
Repeat a lie long enough and Ron thinks someone not as deranged as he is will believe it. There's no such thing as "gay" or "homosex-" and never was, like evolution and "anthropocentric global 'warming'/cooling." Just pay your favorite "scientists" (AKA lying immoral degenerate fascist who res) their desired payment of whatever (I won't go THERE to those sordid obscenities) and get your desired results (e.g. the perverts roaring fascist anti-science success that would have done their fellow 1930s Nazis proud at getting perversion reclassified by shrinks as "normal" via political action overthrowing the irrefutable SCIENTIFIC facts of it's sickness manifestly obvious by just looking at deranged Bwaney Fwank, his "boyfriend" adored by his who ring fascist party, like with the drive by media and Chappaquiddick Teddy who secretly laughed for years at how he got away with conning the people about being sorry for screwing Mary Jo. For those who know true versus revisionist history, the fascist Soviets took us over long ago without firing a shot as we gave ourselves up to our who ring lusts and turned our backs on God, raising our middle finger in His precious face and daring Him to break it off. He did, and that inexplicably and miraculously (http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-tornado-the-lutherans-and-homo...), but of course, fools that we are, we weren't impressed, as Jesus and Abraham said we wouldn't be (Luke 16:31).
For those who prefer truth to the derangement of Ron and the drive by media and most, "conservative" as well as "liberal" (whatever those meaningless words are) inevitably onboard with the perverts' propaganda (stemming from www.thepinkswastika.com) through their belief in the deranged fascist evolution fraud whose source of disinformation is the same as the agw/c's, see "The gay invention" at http://touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=18-10-036-f and see some of how effective the propaganda scam has been at www.DrJudithReisman.org.
For the issue of the true, great science of the greatest scientist, Sir Isaac Newton, creationist (versus the deranged vile apostate religion pretending to be science of the corrupt fascist clergyman Darwin, followed by nutcase Richard Dawkins), see www.creation.com and www.trueorigin.org. True history shows civilization was only great when creationist, until about the '70s easily beating evolutionist fascists at their own game until they took us over without a shot and we abandoned God's truth (e.g. creationist NASA head Von Braun) for Darwin's joke now the official state religion of the soviets who have ironically turned from it, recognizing its incompetence, unlike us, bound to antiChristian bigotry, sadly including most groups pretending to be "christian" while blindly and stupidly sleeping with Darwin's demons of the father of lies. I've fought to restore science to truth vs our present who ring after the bogus asinine evolutionist religion for decades and it's obvious that only God's intervention will avail our laughingstock where there's more freedom of true religion and thus true science in Russia than here in our who ring fascist antiGod delusions as exemplified in NY's recent committment to sodomizing and molesting its people, including their children. God help us.
PS
To hear the voice of the "ex-gays" silenced by today's fascists whose double standard of alleged First Amendment demanding to be heard only applies to themselves, never to their enemies whose destruction they rabidly pursue, including the murder of their kids, see http://exodus.to
Wow.....and he didn't even mention that creep Dan Savage
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:14pm.
saying that he wanted to have Hate Sex (RAPE) with Rick Santorum on live TV? If anything could be said to be the absolute truth about MSLSD, they play to the lowest common denominator, Scum of the earth hate mongers. I CANNOT wait until election day 2012. When Obama loses that night, it will either be absolute anarchy on MSLSD, 4 letter words will not be censored and you will see in real time the exposure of the real radical left. But, it could also look like the 2nd coming of Jonestown.
He can't mention Savage; they're secretly dating.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:53pm.
I read that Ronnie has a "Danny Was Here" tattoo on his left butt cheek.
Of course that's just a rumor. By all accounts, Dan is still happily "married."
Santorum believes marriage is
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:20pm.
Santorum believes marriage is a sacred act and sex should be between a husband and wife. Nothing abnormal about it, it is the basis and foundation of our society and it's the formula God gave us.
Because Ron wants to break God's laws he has it in for Santorum. Hey Ron: the problem with you is that you just don't want to obey God and want to continue living a perverted life. Santorum doesn't have a problem, YOU DO.
And you know what else the problem with you is, Ron?
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:06am.
YOU!!!!!!
You're one of the many deliberately obtuse (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) proponents of same-sex marriage (an oxymoron if ever there was one) who confuses policy with definition. Yes, at various points in time certain practices were allowed within the tradition of marriage: a woman was treated as the property of a man; one man could be married to multiple women; a white man could not marry a black woman. See a pattern here, Ron?
Regardless of changes in practice and policy, marriage has ALWAYS been defined as the union between one man and one woman. The only union that brings together "the two great halves of humanity who are able to create new life and create the next generation."
If I've said it once I'll say it a million times: I WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED INTO DENYING NATURAL LAW!!!!!
He missed it
Submitted by adamsmith on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 7:50am.
alright. He spoke of "other times"...The Ancient Greeks practiced homosexual sex but never married men. Women were for marriage and children, and the men were usually in a "mentor" relationship, an older patriarchal type and his young charge. Even in such a bisexual reality, no Greeks were men marrying men. It was an incompatible concept.
Me, I don't care if two people of the same sex want to stand in front of an altar and pretend that God is smiling down on this "union". Rather than a Constitutional Amendment that marriage is between a man and woman, as a Libertarian I think the concept of State recognized marriage should go by the wayside. It didn't start in this country until 1865, so blacks and whites couldn't legally intermarry. It's usefulness to whomever it was useful is long gone. Marriage belongs in church, not on courthouse steps.
Ron Reagan Jr. is another typical shrill liberal whining male. They ALL have father issues. Just look at Bill Maher....He hates his father because he DIDN'T rape him in the tool shed.
Seems like an
Submitted by notinstl on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:22pm.
angry butt-pirate
Without the name "Reagan"
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:40pm.
this guy would be mopping floors at McDonalds.
Rad, I still think he is a product of accidental baby switching
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:46pm.
...in the maternity ward.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:15pm.
I bet Ron Sr. felt the same way, but was to much of a gentleman to say so.
Or HE's the adopted one.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 7:19am.
Not Michael.
Reagan is the biggest
Submitted by Bhaal on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:55pm.
Reagan is the biggest dingleberry I've ever seen. If not for his dad he would just be another unknown malcontent misfit angry at the world.
Junior!!!
Submitted by jdripper on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:43pm.
The village just called they need their idiot back.
Jack
Ron Jr is a bona fide member
Submitted by Maestroh on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:00pm.
Ron Jr is a bona fide member of the Lucky Sperm Club. Who'd care what he said if his name was Bob Wilson Jr?
Ron Jr is a bona fide member
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:04pm.
LOL - You could have stopped right there.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I was thinking the same thing..........
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:24pm.
The False Murrow (Bathtub Boy, failed 8pm Primetime host on a cancelled TV show on MSLSD) had Robin (AKA David Shyster) as a sidekick. Now, could you imagine this lineup together: Tingle Matthews along with his bona fide Member?
dj, Yeah, sometimes that subject line plays tricks on you
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:30pm.
...and gets to the point even faster than the rest of the comment.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
The economy is...
Submitted by Order270 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:40pm.
...in the toilet, there are no jobs and the debt is approaching the point of no return. Oh, and Ron Reagan Jr. called Rick Santorum a doodyhead. That's getting to the solution.
Every time I see someone with an Obama bumper sticker, I want to run them off the road and ask them what is their problem.
I met Ronald Reagan Jr. once.
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:04pm.
Not impressed. I looked at him a few times and wondered who in the world he was. Of course, he gave me his life story starting with, "Yes, I'm Ronald Reagan Junior!" After I heard that, I started a mini mental status exam (MiniMSE) on him. I can't say for sure, but the amount of pushed speech coming out of him reminded me of bipolarity. Why he thought it was necessary to tell me he was a celebrity (to some) and make a point of telling me how famous he perceives himself to be escapes my imagination.
He definitely did not inherit an iota of his father's communications skills. Since he can't make it on his own merits save for his famous name, he deserves a good, scorching obscurity in one of those "where are they know" programs some few decades hence.
Reagan makes Matthews look smart
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:37pm.
REAGAN: If you find yourself similarly flummoxed, just point out this very simple distinction. Laws against polygamy are non-exclusionary. Whether you are gay or straight, black or white, Christian or Muslim, you can't be married to more than one person at a time.
We're looking at predence. Before the first state passed a same-sex marriage law, it was a state court that overturned an existing law that restricted marriage to one man and one woman. The argument that the gay advocates offered was that the state has no right to legislate who can love whom (A fallacious argument since states aren't concerned about love.)
Likewise, once marriage is broadened to include same sex couples, what's to keep a court from ruling that polygamy cannot be recognized?
This is why states need to get out of the marriage license business altogether.
Your 15 minutes are over, go
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 11:38pm.
Your 15 minutes are over, go back to working your gloryhole.
perfect
Submitted by scarletandgold on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 2:19am.
what we need are many many more homophobic politicians,,,lol they make that out to be a bad thing
Pretty sad, this guy...
Submitted by packman on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 8:37am.
I'm sure his Dad is rolling over in his grave every time this titmouse opens his mouth...
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
when you are totally devoid of talent or skill
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 9:11am.
there is one place you can go, the leftwing media.
young ronny has no talent, no skills, nothing original to offer so the leftwing media is more than happy to use him as they attempt to control the narrative.
Ronald Reagan was the greatest President of the 20 century. His son Ronny is only doing damage to himself.
Hay, Ron...
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:10am.
Hay, Ron, why don't you run for office and see just how popular YOU are!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
He would rather pretend
Submitted by ohio granny on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:14am.
He would rather pretend that he is relevent. Maybe he is just jealous his brother Michael gets more publicity than he does.
His dad
Submitted by spepper on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:27pm.
His dad, Ronaldus Magnus, HAS to be rolling in his grave, saying "There he goes, again"
Hey Ron do us all a favor and
Submitted by Barack Must Go on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 5:26pm.
Hey Ron do us all a favor and come out of the closet already. Maybe then you won't be such a little ' mean girl '.