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George Stephanopoulos Worries That Tiny 2012 Budget Cuts Will 'Hurt' the Recovery and 'Cost Jobs'

By Scott Whitlock | August 02, 2011 | 11:44

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Apparently, cutting a $3.7 trillion budget by $21 billion will hurt the economy. Talking to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner on Tuesday, Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos worried about the just-agreed to debt deal: "But, don't you think that any deficit reduction now will hurt the attempts of the economy to recover?"

The former Clinton White House official turned journalist highlighted "economists who say cuts like this will make our weak economy weaker and cost Americans jobs." In total, Stephanopoulos raised the question three times, wondering, "So, this won't cost us jobs?"

Of course, the anchor didn't point out that there's almost no spending cuts before 2014, a mere $21 billion in 2012 and $42 billion in 2013.

The GMA host didn't even challenge Geithner's assertion that if the economy regresses into recession, it could be the fault of Republicans who opposed increasing the debt limit.

Geithner claimed that the "spectacle" Americans witnessed in Washington really damaged "the confidence, caused a lot of damage to confidence. "

To this, Stephanopoulos could only manage to mildly respond, "To the point where it could cause a double dip?"

The journalist also didn't mention that the economy expanded at 1.3 percent in the second quarter or that this was prior to the debt debate.

This isn't the first time, the network anchor hit Geithner from the left. On April 22, 2010, he pressed the Treasury Secretary on financial reform, wondering why the "big banks" shouldn't be "broken up."

A transcript of the August 2 segment, which aired at 7:09, can be found below:

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GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And now that the deal is all but done we face the big question of what it means for the economy and whether it's strong enough to preserve America's AAA credit rating. I put those questions to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner in an exclusive interview and began by getting his response to economists who say cuts like this will make our weak economy weaker and cost Americans jobs.

TIM GEITHNER: Well, let's start with what this deal does. The most important thing is it creates more room for the private sector to grow because although it locks in some very substantial long-term savings, the near-term costs are very modest.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But, don't you think that any deficit reduction now will hurt the attempts of the economy to recover?

GEITHNER: Part of governing is recognize we live with- we don't have unlimited resources and we inherited and are left with unsustainable deficits long term and the President understands for the sake of the economy long term it's very important to demonstrate to the American people, to people around the world that we can get our arms around it.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So, this won't cost us jobs?

GEITHNER: No, it will not. Now, if we put this behind us, then we can turn back to the important challenge of trying to find ways to make sure that we do everything we can to get more people back to work, strengthen growth.
   
STEPHANOPOULOS: Yet, the President had to give up in this deal his call to extend the payroll tax cuts through next year.

GEITHNER: George, I'm very confident that's going to happen. You know, again, I've been part of all these discussions.

STEPHANOPOULOS: How can you be so sure?

GEITHNER: Well, because I think it will be very hard for Republicans to prevent that from happening. I think it's very hard for them to stand up and say they're going to try to block the extension of tax cut that is worth about a thousand dollars a year for the average American family, untenable for them to block that.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you sure that this economy is not going to slip back into recession?

GEITHNER: The economy is absolutely slower than we thought, really than anybody thought and it's happening around the world. And in the United States, I think confidence here was absolutely damaged by this spectacle they've seen in Washington of a significant number of elected officials in this country threatening default, really damaging the confidence, caused a lot of damage to confidence.

STEPHANOPOULOS: To the point where it could cause a double dip?

GEITHNER: I don't think that that risk right now is very significant. You know, the United States is a very strong very resilient economy. We're still among the most productive economy in the world.   

STEPHANOPOULOS: But, we're not creating jobs.

GEITHNER: We're are. Not as fast as we like, but not creating jobs. 2. 2 million private sector jobs created since the job growth. started. That's not enough. Long way to go. That's just a function of how damaging the recession was.

STEPHANOPOULOS: There's also the real prospect even though default has likely been avoided that America could still lose its AAA credit rating. Some economists estimate it costs us $75 billion a year in interest costs, 600,000 jobs.

GEITHNER: If Americans, or investors around the world, lose confidence in the capacity of washington to deal with challenges then what you'll see is higher interest rates for all Americans.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Sounds like you're not sure a downgrade is going to be avoided?

GEITHNER: I can't- It's not my judgment to make and they have to make that judgment. But, you know, this is- in some ways a judgment on the capacity of Congress to act and what this deal does is put us in a much better position to make those tough choice.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Has the way this whole process unfolded made a downgrade more likely?

GEITHNER: I don't know. It's hard to tell. I think this is a good result but a terrible process.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You're Treasury Secretary of the United States. What goes through your mind when you read that bulletin that says, Apple Computer has more cash than the United States government?

GEITHNER: Well, I don't think that's the way we think of it. Again, the resources of this country-

STEPHANOPOULOS: But, it's true, isn't it?

GEITHNER: No. I wouldn't look at it that way. Our strength of our country is the basic strength of the economy long term. We're a very rich and strong country, very resilient long term.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, you know this question is coming, earlier there had been some reports you would leave your post after a debt deal is reached. We're at that point.

GEITHNER: And the vote hasn't happened. The vote hasn't happened yet.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So when it passes-

GEITHNER: It's going to happen.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Is it fair to assume that now that it's done, you'll be leaving relatively soon?

GEITHNER: No, I mean I haven't made that decision yet and, you know,  we got a lot of challenges, the president has a lot of challenges. And, you know, I got other pressures on me too, but I'll make that decision at the right moment.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. Secretary, thanks for your time.
 

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The Dems and their

Submitted by robert108 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:54am.

The Dems and their mouthpieces in the MSM are still trying to sell the lie that govt spending benefits the economy. Of course, when they say "the economy", they really mean govt spending, so it figures. Govt spending hurts the private sector, which pays for everything.

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The plan here is to blame the

Submitted by MrSnuggles on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:10pm.

The plan here is to blame the Tea Party when the economy continues to tank, all because they cut $30b from a 3.5 TRILLION dollar budget.

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Submitted by Tomorama on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:17pm.

Using my brilliant summation skills born of listening to leftist, lying cowards in the media for 49 years I can easily surmise:

IF the economy improves it is due to Obama's being a genius centrist who came up with everything good about the plan.

IF the economy continues to suck, it is because of the terrorist Republicans and tea-baggers who came up with no plans and no budgets (both of course lies).

ANY cuts EVER will take away:

Food for little babies
Drugs for the elderly
Building of bridges etc, etc
Education

Etc, etc, etc.....................

If you make poverty easy, you will have more of it. Benjamin Franklin
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Don't forget that if the Left

Submitted by Van Halen on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:38pm.

Don't forget that if the Left don't get the money they demand that the first cuts are ALWAYS
police
fire
parks that kids like to play in
snowplowing (for those of us in states that need it)

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Always cut the essentials, never the fat.

Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:58pm.

Remember no union jobs can ever be cut, especially in the worthless Dep'ts of This and That. (education, energy,....)

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I hope it costs Geithner his job

Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:21pm.

He's horrible.

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IT SHOULD... BUT Obama has bigger trouble comming.....

Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:23pm.

Look up the FAST and FURIOUS INVESTIGATION!!!

Liberals: No Morals, No Standards, NO Problem!
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Blindingly stupid. Without

Submitted by PeskyDane on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:25pm.

Blindingly stupid. Without his family connections to the Democrat Party, George would never have been able to parlay his job as James Carville's chai-boy to become Clinton's White House Communications Director. I should be used to it by now, but I still marvel at the willful ignorance of the libards. Our current economic problems are in part caused by crushing taxes and out of control spending.

I left my filter in Afghanistan. http://wifeofthecolonel.blogspot.com/
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Welp, here we go. Could see

Submitted by forest on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:25pm.

Welp, here we go. Could see this one coming a mile away.

This will be the mantra at every MSM outlet every day - especially if the economic numbers keep tanking. "The Tea Party 'cuts' are causing it!"

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Stephanopoulos

Submitted by TerryWest on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:39pm.

Stephanopoulos is just another excuse advisor for the White House, he and the other colluding parrots in the old media spin out excuse's like fortune cookie message writers on an assembly line, hoping one will stick with some of the people some of the time.

[Good fortune falls. Don't go outside today]

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NPR the same...

Submitted by andrew - des moines on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:53pm.

NPR's analysis this morning stated that the budget cuts would hurt the economy. Both NPR personalities used the metaphor of 'a gun to the head' in the segment. NPR by the way went after Palin hard for her target and blood money metaphors. I am sure David Brooks will point this out next time the conservative is given time for commentary...

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Mr. Las Vegas said it best

Submitted by Texndoc on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:53pm.

Steve Wynn - owner of every other hotel/casino in Vegas: "Businesses aren't hiring or creating jobs because they are scared to death of this guy [Zero], you don't know what is going to happen next."

Nice try, Georgie, on blaming lack of "JOBS JOBS JOBS" around the Tea Party. So that's the new talking point?

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As bias as this interview was, IMO The Post published a story...

Submitted by Conservator on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:58pm.

...that was far worse today:

Debt-ceiling deal risks compromising fragile economic growth http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/debt-ceiling-deal-risks-compromising-fragile-economic-growth/2011/08/01/gIQA9phUoI_story.html.

Zachary's column reminded me of Dr. Zachary Smith (Lost in Space) crying we're DOOMED. How can the debt-ceiling deal compromise the US' anemic economic growth?

It failed to mention that the GDP grew at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of just 1.3 percent in the second quarter and the first quarter was sharply revised down from 1.9 percent in the first quarter to 0.4 percent. Historically speaking, whenever the US GDP has grown by less than 2% in two quarters in a row, our economy has gone into a recession - in this case it will be the double-dip recession that many have feared.

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indeed!

Submitted by right of way on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 1:07pm.

oh the pain, the pain.

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Lost in space retro part 3..................

Submitted by Tomorama on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 1:32pm.

Warning, warning Will Obama, danger, danger do not cut anything.

If you make poverty easy, you will have more of it. Benjamin Franklin
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hey steffy

Submitted by ohio granny on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:59pm.

there are no jobs because the democrats are spending us into oblivion. They are taking so much money out of the private sector there is nothing left for jobs.

All these so called cuts, geez (maybe all of 1/2 of 1 percent cut in year 10) will stall the recovery. Yeah, that will really stall a no job no-recovery recovery. You must be really stupid or willfully ignorant to believe that.

Keep preaching to the choir. They are the only ones that believe anything coming from the obama pimps and wh*res in the MSM. Unfortunately the rest of us have to live in realville.

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Ok Steffy,

Submitted by Order270 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 1:24pm.

the Party of Blame says we have created this mess, perpetrate this mess, and if it continues to be a mess, that will be our fault, too. Fine, then get out of the way and let us fix it.

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The debt structure will

Submitted by jkwtrading on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 1:27pm.

The debt structure will eventually return to the levels of the 1960's , a real implosion. It could even go further well back into 1930's.
a good example of the reversal is the tulip bulb mania chart of the 1700's...regardless how high it went it returned right back to beginning base levels..

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Look up the definition of Recovery. This aint it.

Submitted by Six String Spiff on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 1:46pm.

I laugh every time I hear somebody say we are in a recovery.

You want to see what recovery looks like?

Reagan "drained the swamp" as one irrelevant, oblivious to her own remarkable failure Nancy Pelosi would say.

We saw the best growth period (REAL growth, not this flim flam saved or created horse crap).

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Failing math

Submitted by octavioj on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 2:41pm.

Assuming we would be cutting 30 billion dollars out of the budget next year, it would mean a reduction of 0.2% of GDP. If our economy is not growing by more than 0.2% of GDP next year then we are in trouble.

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What's with all this spending

Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 3:51pm.

What's with all this spending cut nonsense anyway? We are going to spend more in 2012 than 2011, and we're going to spend more in 2013 than 2012, and we're going to spend more in 2014 than 2013. Kind of hard for these cuts to be devastating when they don't actually exist.


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Not to worry, Georgie

Submitted by Model850 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 4:09pm.

Snuffleupagus: ...getting his response to economists who say cuts like this will make our weak economy weaker and cost Americans jobs.

Take heart, Georgie! Given the absolutely stunning record of failure by economists to predict anything accurately I'd say none of that will occur. (In the first place the economy is on life support already. If it gets any "weaker" call the mortician and find a chapel for the funeral services.)

Look at nearly every economic report that comes out and it will state that economists were "surprised" by what happened, or the results were "unexpected" or if it's good, they expected bad, and vice versa. I put zero faith in what those idiots predict.

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Bearing in mind

Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 5:02pm.

that, to Beltway insiders, "cuts" means "reductions in the increase of spending", it's difficult to support Steffie's conclusions. Keep in mind that, according to Congressional budgeting techniques, if they simply FROZE spending at this year's level (no cuts at all), it would be scored as a 9 trillion-dollar CUT (that's the total of increases they automatically budget BEFORE even talking about increases or "cuts"). The porkulus bill has been added to the baseline--we'll now be spending that EVERY YEAR.

So to Congress, "no adjustments" means increasing spending by 9 trillion dollars over the next 10 years.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

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Scott, I hate to break it to

Submitted by dscott on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 5:19pm.

Scott, I hate to break it to you but, it's not $3.7 trillion, it's $5.468 trillion on an annualized basis as of the 2nd quarter.

Refer to the BEA running tally of federal government expenses and receipts.

http://bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=86&FirstYear...

The annualized budget deficit is $1.471 trillion. That $21 billion doesn't even cover the interest on the national debt. You owe me lunch.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
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