Joy Behar and Barbara Walters Politicize bin Laden Death: Just Cancel 2012 Election Now
View co-hosts Joy Behar and Barbara Walters on Monday immediately politicized the killing of terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. After giving credit to Barack Obama for the successful strike, supposedly straight journalist Walters giddily announced, "I would hate now to be a Republican candidate thinking of running."
Liberal comedienne Joy Behar played off a months-old comment by token conservative Elisabeth Hasselbeck. Behar crowed, "As Elisabeth always says, they should just skip the next election."
As the crew sat next to guest Brian Ross, Hasselbeck refused to join in: "Wait a minute. I think it is insane to politicize this event right now and I refuse to partake in that."
[See video below. MP3 audio here. ]
Earlier in the show, Hasselbeck showed the most class, declaring, "But, I have to credit the Obama administration for continuing this pursuit and taking the baton from the Bush administration. Neither of these men wanted to bear this burden. Neither of them would ask for this. But to go ahead and act on it is outstanding."
[Thanks to the MRC's @Keder for the story tip.]
A transcript of the exchange, which aired at 11:22am EDT on May 2, follows:
11:03
HASSELBECK: But, I have to credit the Obama administration for continuing this pursuit and taking the baton from the Bush administration. Neither of these men wanted to bear this burden. Neither of them would ask for this. But to go ahead and act on it is outstanding.
11:22
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BARBARA WALTERS: And great credit to this President.
BRIAN ROSS: It was a brilliant operation.
JOY BEHAR: We love our president! We love him.
ROSS: And he made a choice not to drop bombs there because he was afraid it would obliterate any evidence they'd killed him.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Yes, he did.
ROSS: So he made the choice to send in the U.S. Navy Seals.
BEHAR: And he would have hurt other people probably. This way it was very-
WALTERS: I would hate now to be a Republican candidate thinking of running.
BEHAR: They should- As Elisabeth always says, they should just skip the next election.
HASSELBECK: Wait a minute. I think it is insane to politicize this event right now and I refuse to partake in that.
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Why do we give a crap about
Submitted by mattm on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:43pm.
Why do we give a crap about the mindless blather these unintelligent ditzes utter?
Viewless.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:00pm.
Over 99% of the country doesn't watch.
If the election were held
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:51pm.
If the election were held today, Obama would still lose, but not as much as he would have without UBL's death.
By November 2012, however, any benefit from bin Laden's death will be virtually non-existent.
Having said that, Obama deserves some credit here. Feels weird saying that, but it's true.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
some credit
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 12:58pm.
The way the LSM is going about it, you'd think the Chairman came up with the idea all on his own.
In reality, he probably had the information brought to him, had some advisors make suggestions, had military/CIA (since this was apparently CIA led) draw up plans, and he just had to sign off on it.
He could have easily said no. So yeah, just saying yes or no to a mission, that's about all the credit he really deserves, especially when he made it about him (way more than necessary) even after crediting the forces that took the actions.
If a real leader had been in place, that leader wouldn't have credited himself in any way at all. He would have thanked the soldiers and call them heroes.
-Jon
Ticket parade for O probably next
Submitted by Sefton on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:10pm.
Agreed Jon.
The problem I have is that even though the president should get some credit for this, the president himself will be the first to say he deserves every bit of praise that rains on him for this op.
If he wasn't such a narcissistic, classless boob, with a sycophantic media right in lock step, it'd be a lot easier to give him some props on this.
He could have easily said no.
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:32pm.
He could have easily said no. So yeah, just saying yes or no to a mission, that's about all the credit he really deserves, especially when he made it about him (way more than necessary) even after crediting the forces that took the actions.
That's the only credit I'm giving him, Jon. Beyond that, GWB deserves far more credit at the executive branch level, IMO.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Bush?
Submitted by JamPony on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:03pm.
Is he still in office?
Everytime his name is mentioned the Right reminds us that he is no longer in office as if his actions no longer have any consequence because he is gone.
You guys are trying but you can't spin this one enough to take the focus off of the President Barack Obama.
This is what the history books will read: Barack Obama two term President of the United States. Get use to it.
And after those two terms are
Submitted by Ed Gregory on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:13pm.
And after those two terms are up, history books will recount how he presided over one of the worst stretches of economic and civil instability in the country's 240-year history.
pony molester alert
Submitted by ckc1227 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:36pm.
Hide your livestock folks, it's back.
"This is what the history books will read: Barack Obama two term President of the United States. Get use to it"
If that nightmare scenario unfolds, the history books will say something else too.....Obama was able to do what no outside threat could do in over 200 years.....destroy America.
Pony, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney Policies are still in play.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:19pm.
Guantanamo Bay and waterboarding...Still OPEN....
Thank Bush's lawyers too.
You Didn't Build That.
What the MSM won't say
Submitted by Ozconservative on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:02pm.
What the US MSM won't tell you, but an Australian news website (news.com.au) will is that it was those reviled interrogation techniques that led to the CIA discovering Bin Ladens whereabouts.
Ok bozo. Real slowly.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:19pm.
Who set up the protocols that obtained the information as to UBLs whereabouts? Duuuh, BUSH.
Where was the courier with said information held and interrogated? Duuh, Gitmo.
Who wanted to close, Gitmo? Duhhhh, duhhhh, duhhhh.
You libs make me sick. Everything your idiot does that fails you blame on Bush. The programs that BUSH set up that led to this event... THE KING.
Well this doesn't surprise me
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:07pm.
As if. Which program did Bush put into place that is specifically responsible for the death of bin Laden? Was it the Navy SEAL program? Or was it simply the "go find bin Laden" order he gave back in '01? How about crediting the intelligence that led us to bin Laden? Or the SEALs who risked their lives to capture the most notorious criminal in American history?
The ignored reality is that the only way to prove Bush had any effect in the death of bin Laden is if Bush was still president. But that time has passed.
Ted
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:13pm.
It began with the destruction of the Gorelick wall. Plain and simple. Had the Clinton-era policies regarding intelligence gathering and sharing been in place, Osama would be alive and well today.
If you would be so kind
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:23pm.
I'm pretty certain my name has never been Ted.
There is plenty of blame to go around, from the CIA to the FBI, but to place it all upon one person makes it sound like one person was responsible for the entire safety of America. Knowing so little about the operation at this time it is impossible to know who exactly is responsible for the event, but there is one thing that is certain: President Obama gave the kill order as Commander in Chief.
LOL.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:28pm.
"I have a dog, not multiple cats."
Loooooooser
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:54pm.
"I'm pretty certain my name has never been Ted."
We'll smoke you out. And it won't take 10 years. You're too stupid, anyway.
- Shy Turntablism
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Sorry
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:54pm.
ADK.
I'm not really sure what your reply is trying to say- what blame? what details are you missing from the operation?- but I'll try to respond as best as I can.
Gorelick was a political appointee to the DoJ -as I'm sure you're aware- who followed leftist dogma to the tee regarding intelligence gathering and sharing among the nation's intelligence centers and law enforcement agencies. Like all leftist, she apparently believed that every "criminal" -be it a wartime act, within or out of our geographical boundaries and citizenship laws- is a democratic voter and should be afforded every protection known to man; even some made up by woman.
Had the protections she put in place as a civilian political appointee of the Clinton administration remained in effect throughout the war on terror, not only is likely that we would have released KSM on Miranda grounds, but every high-valued terrorist would have been immediately bused to the nearest ACORN facility and registered to vote. We surely would not have had "actionable intelligence".
Fortunately this is not the case and Ms. Gorelick is busy defending BP rather than terrorist master-minds. The only proof needed that term-limits are a saving grace.
As for Obama giving the order: would you suggest that Bush would not have given that order?
Curiously, there wasn't a word said about the Gorelick "wall"
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:13pm.
during the 2000 campaign, nor was there even the hint of an effort by the Bush administration to amend the policy regarding the sharing of evidence/information prior to 9/11. Perhaps that's because Gorelick didn't build a wall from scratch, but simply clarified pre-existing but blurred guidelines which had led to confusion.
We do know this: If McCain had been elected and had adhered to his campaign pledge, Osama Bin Laden would still be sitting comfortably in Pakistan contemplating ways to kill Americans.
Jer
→ The Gorelick Wall
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:24pm.
Is that where Al Gore got massages?
That's true, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:34pm.
but only on one side of his body.
Jer
You didn't like the comedic
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:48pm.
You didn't like the comedic value of that post Jer? I thought the part about democrats and criminal voters was pretty funny.
But of course your right, since the Gorelick wall wasn't mentioned during the 2000 campaign, it's debilitating effects on international intelligence gathering is a red herring. It had nothing at all to do with the successes gained by Al Qaeda during the years leading up to 9/11, because, well, GW didn't mention it on the campaign trail. And, apparently since it wasn't brought up during the 2000 election campaign trail, the Gorelick wall -as it is commonly known- was just an ancillary observation by the 9/11 commission and was one of those "eh, if you feel like altering this policy, go right ahead" afterthoughts.
Maybe I should put it this way: The tendency to assign praise or blame on a political philosophy is the result of a country polarized by events past. And yet we should still be capable of looking beyond politics and learn the lessons of past mistakes. The "Gorelick Wall" was a major mistake in the era of Radical Islamic terrorism; one that was based upon ideological grounds and secured in place by ideological partisans. It was exposed largely by the theretofore unforeseen 9/11 attacks and corrected by the Bush Administration. When Guttermouth asked what specific policy initiated by Bush that led to the killing of OBL, I offered that, that one --removal of the Gorelick Wall-- was instrumental in the ability of our vast network of intelligence gatherers to focus their efforts and share their findings to piece together the puzzle that led to the bullet in OBL's horseface.
I appreciate your desire to defend the Clinton administration at the drop of a hat, but in this case, their policy was wrongheaded and damaging to our country. Surely not intentionally, but it was proven to be so. Denying that is childish. Thankfully it was illuminated and corrected. I would hope that you could agree on at least the last point.
2+2 = 5
Submitted by IrateNate on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:09pm.
Yes, had we located Bin Laden with anyone else sitting in the White House, he would still be alive today...that's a completely moronic statement, even from you, Jer.
..that's a completely moronic statement,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:26pm.
even from you, Jer.
Wish I had a dollar every time that was posted
Hey, stalker...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:36pm.
Good to see you. Where you been the past couple of days?
Jer
Your reading comprehension is as bad as your math, Nate..
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:34pm.
I didn't say "anyone else sitting in the White House". I referred specifically to McCain.
Jer
The Gorelick wall ...
Submitted by NL207 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:08pm.
Did anybody outside of the Clinton Administration actually KNOW ABOUT this 'wall' in 2000?
How is a Republican candidate to make an election issue of this catastrophically stupid administrative policy if nobody knows about it and the MSM will not report on it?
This explanation by Republican Senator Slade Gorton
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:44pm.
should help clear up a lot of the confusion surrounding the so-called Gorelick Wall.
Jer
Slade Gorton is a RINO.
Submitted by NL207 on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:37pm.
This is in you link : "Congress created the walls that were in place before September 11 — such as the National Security Act’s prohibition on U.S. intelligence agency spying on Americans and the Posse Comitatus Act — that have nothing to do with the Department of Justice memo."
Gives a clue about what BS the article is. The National Security Act doesn't cover foreign nationals in the US, especially ones with expired visas, which describes several of the 9/11 hijackers. The Posse Comitatus Act (1) didn't stop Clinton from using the military against the wackos in Waco and (2) the CIA is not the Military. That would be the DIA. Moreover, the CIA and DIA would merely have told the FBI that these persons of interest were inside the US ... had the Department of Justice memo not prevented them.
There is more BS later in the article claiming that Ashcroft could havce simply revoked the 'wall' with a stroke of the pen if that was all that Gorelick used to create it. This of course presupposes Ashcroft even knew about a policy that by that time was S.O.P. I think it likely no one at the civil service career level mentioned it to him because it was 'routine', nothing remarkable. Are you going to risk your career standing to elevate routine as an issue? I don't think so.
And .. as a kicker,Gorton apparently doesn't think Gorelick's participation in the 911 Commision where she in part investigated her own conduct, was a conflict of interest.
Another lesson?
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:17pm.
I'm familiar with Gorelick, so I'll skip over that section of your dissertation.
So the relevant portion would be your last line, a rhetorical question (perhaps?) that wasn't necessarily up for debate. Do I think Bush WOULDN'T have given the order? Only if I bought the Michael Moore conspiracy, which I did not. But still it appears you're assigning the task of national security to one person. And at no time has anyone credibly linked the killing of bin Laden to policies no longer in place credited to Gorelick.
Not Ted,
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:52pm.
Okay, so use your head: do you believe that had the Gorelick Wall reamined in place through 2011 that Osama would have eaten that Sig 9mm?
We simply don't know
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:59pm.
It's speculation at this time. The Gorelick wall coming down, which undoubtedly led to advances in intelligence gathering, does nothing to explain the accomplishment of the mission.
How can you say that it wasn't a change in strategy ushered in by Obama that led to the death of bin Laden? It's as possible a scenario as crediting the Bush administration.
What credible source has
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:03pm.
What credible source has indicated there was a change in strategy?
As of 11/09
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:14pm.
Current U.S. policy includes the use of missiles fired from unmanned drones on insurgent locations limited to roughly 50 miles inside the western border; training in two military camps for the Pakistani Frontier Corps; and intelligence exchanges. It prohibits kinetic, or active, operations by U.S. ground forces inside Pakistan.
Now today we know that US troops conducted a ground operation in the killing of bin Laden. And I know my logic isn't well respected, but please tell me you recognize yesterday's mission as a change in strategy, or at the very least, policy.
Don't confuse strategy with tactical operations
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:48pm.
We use JSOC all the time, you just don't hear about it. And there's a reason for that.
In this case there was a high-value target, possibly the most highly-valued target there was, and reasons not to destroy evidence of the kill. This particular aspect of the policy I completely agree with. Whether Osama was within 50 miles of the border was immaterial; he was too important a target to not act upon. Plus, he was located at his residence; a place he was likely to remain for some time; we were aware that he was there for at least a period of months, if not years. Had we not known his location but was observed in a vehicle along a dusty mountain pass, then yeah, send in the Predators. I'm sure both Bush and Obama would have done that. Clinton too.
The particulars of the mission are defined by the five paragraph order SMEAC. The "S" stands for "situation". Once that is determined, the mission proceeds with that as it's backdrop. This was not a change in policy or strategy. Is was a tactical operation specific to an ongoing strategy- that being, kill OBL.
This Morning
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 9:17am.
It's been reported that there was no certainty bin Laden was even in the compound at the time of the strike. This article, presuming it's factual, gives us a basic outline of the mission and the years leading up to Monday.
Reported where? Your link
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 10:31am.
Reported where? Your link doesn't read exactly as you claim.
Clearly it does
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:38pm.
In fact, nobody came or went. And no telephone or Internet lines ran from the compound. The CIA soon believed that bin Laden was hiding in plain sight, in a hideout especially built to go unnoticed. But since bin Laden never traveled and nobody could get onto the compound without passing through two security gates, there was no way to be sure.
Despite that uncertainty, intelligence officials realized this could represent the best chance ever to get to bin Laden. They decided not to share the information with anyone, including staunch counterterrorism allies such as Britain, Canada and Australia.
And if you continue reading
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:42pm.
And if you continue reading the article you will see it reads not as you make it seem. Your "spin" is duly noted.
Point it out
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:46pm.
Point out my spin, and explain what you think contradicts the actual events.
But I know you won't. You'll post your habitually vague arguments insisting you're right and I'm wrong while leaving out any and all facts to back up your claims.
By simply reading the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:51pm.
By simply reading the COMPLETE AP report of which you linked and compare to your representation reveals clearly your misleading spin. It's just that simple. But you've misleading and prevaricating on NB comments for quite some time and I'm not the only one who noticed.
As predicted
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:08pm.
You'll post your habitually vague arguments insisting you're right and I'm wrong while leaving out any and all facts to back up your claims.
Nothing vague in my post. So
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:35pm.
Nothing vague in my post. So now you're just blatantly lying in a feeble attempt at character assassination. Typical.
Example
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:09pm.
You made no arguments
You referenced neither content nor previously stated fact
You referred to absolutely nothing particular
That's pretty vague, and it's an easily recognizable pattern of behavior on your part.
So I'll offer this again, if you have a problem with a particular statement I've made, reference it.
I reiterate: Nothing vague in
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:23pm.
I reiterate: Nothing vague in my post. So now you're just blatantly lying in a feeble attempt at character assassination. Typical.
I was very specific when I wrote, "By simply reading the COMPLETE AP report of which you linked and compare to your representation reveals clearly your misleading spin. It's just that simple. But you've misleading and prevaricating on NB comments for quite some time and I'm not the only one who noticed."
That's quite specific. Just because I refuse to jump through your nonsensical hoops does not make what I wrote invalid nor untrue.
I've made my points. The reader can read the article and your comments and see how you misled with your spin. It's just that simple.
Now please go somewhere else with your equivocations, obfuscations, and prevarications.
You're a RIOT
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:33pm.
A RIOT!!!!
THAT'S your response? The rest of the article contradicts earlier text in the article? What in the complete article contradicts the portions I referenced?
There is nothing specific about "read on." If you have a point, make it. If you have an argument, make it. If you still have no particulars, I won't be back to respond.
And you continue to lie.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 4:07pm.
And you continue to lie.
Yeah, um, I'm not sure what
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:44am.
Yeah, um, I'm not sure what you're getting at there. They went in pre-dawn figuring, obviously, that darkness would be our friend and OBL would likely be asleep. Of course there's never a guarantee, but we played the odds. And won.
You don't see?
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:42pm.
You don't see that I'm offering information that was unknown yesterday that appears to both confirm and reject parts of both of our arguments?
Actually you're offering your
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:44pm.
Actually you're offering your own personal misleading spin on one published story.
Sorry
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:46pm.
Maybe I'm being obtuse today but I'm not sure which argument(s) we're specifically talking about, or how this article confirms or denies it/them. I actually thought I had rendered most of your arguments moot, but that could just be conceit.
bkey
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:50pm.
Yesterday we knew relatively little about the events leading up to the mission. My intention in posting the story was simply to introduce facts 24 hours ago we were without.
If that were truly you
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:52pm.
If that were truly you intention you would have just linked to the story without your personal spin. So I seriously doubt your claim here.
BK, you'll not convince these brainy liberals anything....
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:07pm.
...about military operations. They know it all. You, my friend, are arguing from experience and first hand knowledge, which in liberal land doesn't matter.
Here's some more interesting info, from the British papers which are usually better informed, faster, than what we're getting here. The CIA was apparently convinced back in February that Abbottobad was where OBL was holed up, but the situation became more complicated:
America's strained relationship with Pakistan was plunged into fresh turmoil by the arrest of Raymond Davis, a CIA contractor who had shot dead two Pakistanis in January.
U.S. officials feared that he would be killed if Bin Laden was executed. A tense few weeks ensued until Davis's release on March 16.
Then there was the matter of WikiLeaks. Just weeks before Sunday night's raid, the whistleblower website had published a tranche of new secret documents.
These made reference to named ‘couriers’ carrying Bin Laden’s message to his followers, and also to Abbottabad as a possible Al Qaeda bolthole.
The liberals and liberal media are holding this decision out as some sort of brilliance on Obama's part. Not from where I'm looking at it. It was the only decision to make. He was painted into a corner. Using cruise missiles inside of Pakistan's borders is just as provacative as sending in troops. Furthermore, missiles leave open a couple of bad results, as well...."collateral damage" (as this was in a residential neighborhood), and blowing to smithereens any remains, thereby leaving uncertainty as to proof of who was actually killed. A six month basic recruit would reach the same decision as Obama did.
We'll hear more in the future, naturally, as the details of the operation get out. Obama is fortunate that the downed helicopter didn't result in a Desert One situation (which I've read about extensively, what a mess)....but I wonder how high Barry's blood pressure got as he micro-managed this operation.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I know. "Irishman" is once
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:37pm.
I know. "Irishman" is once again spinning and misrepresenting like he has been doing all along on NewsBusters. Can't bother him with the facts.
oops, aixelsyd
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:06pm.
not "reamined", remained
Hey Ireman! Let's try AGAIN.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:48pm.
Where and how was the intel that led to taking out Osama obtained? Are you that deluded that I need to answer that question AGAIN?
And save the marginalize the messenger crap. It has no resonance.
Tish, Reagan Got the ball rolling on 747 as a new Airforce One.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:03pm.
As President he never got to ride on it.
Bush and Chaney expanded the ability to fight a war. Obama is surfing on that successful factoid.
You Didn't Build That.
Jam Pony?
Submitted by Airforce_5_O on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:07pm.
Sorry but I could not disagree more. The disaster that continues to be the Obama economic policy will get him ousted.
Also I think the ladies of the view are jumping way to early because the economy will play so large a roll next year that UBL will be long forgotten in the minds of the voters.
Forget Manchurian Candidate it is the Simpsons Movie !!!
Submitted by MassConservative on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:52pm.
Russ Cargill: Anyone can pick something when they know what it is; It takes real leadership to pick something you're clueless about.
President Schwarzenegger: Ok, I pick 3!
Russ Cargill: Try again.
President Schwarzenegger: 1!
Russ Cargill: Go higher.
President Schwarzenegger: 5?
Russ Cargill: Too high.
President Schwarzenegger: 3?
Russ Cargill: You already said 3.
President Schwarzenegger: 6?
Russ Cargill: There is no 6.
President Schwarzenegger: 2?
Russ Cargill: Double it.
President Schwarzenegger: 4!
Russ Cargill: As you wish, sir.
2012 campaign slogan - "Carter got his 2nd term, NOW can we move on?"
Yeah?
Submitted by JamPony on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:51pm.
Lose to who?
According to several recent polls,
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:32pm.
he can't even beat "an unnamed Republican". Better not count those chickens just yet.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Well, when an election year rolls around,...
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:06pm.
...we'll find out. But until then, we won't want to give you and the MSM a character to assassinate.
$4 per gallon gasoline.
Submitted by NL207 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:09pm.
That's who.
Hey, at least he had sense enough to get out of the way
Submitted by nonncom on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:53pm.
and let the seals do their job....sometimes, it's not what is done, but what is not done....
I'm not sure
Submitted by Mazzi on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:54pm.
I am not sure that he had enough sense to get out of the way. He was probably too busy on the golf course to think about it, and just signed whatever papers were thrust at him.
and americans dealing with his awful domestic policies
Submitted by Lipton on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:01pm.
are just going to forget about the hardships they have because we caught this guy, who most americans didn't give a single thought to on 4/30/2011?
Sad to politicize this
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:32pm.
The death of a man should not be a political issue, and pretending that only Democrats wanted Bin Laden captured or killed is delusional. If dems try to make this a campaign issue, it will fail. In the end, having Bin Laden on the loose made little difference in the lives of most Americans. Al Queda has never been able to carry out another significant attack on America since 9-11. The economy and gas prices will be the big issues in the campaign if things don't improve. I wouldn't want to be Obama, going into the election, with $5 gas and a double dip recession, saying "well, at least we got Bin Laden." That won't go over very well. Now if gas prices improve and we don't get hit with another gas-related economic slow down, Obama will be very hard to bean.
Tell Joy to stick her head up her a__ and suck hard.
Submitted by daveposh on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:38pm.
Joy,
You are an idiot amoeba. Now that the USA country's military has removed OBL (and BMO taken credit), our country will still need to be vigilant to outside threats and we still need to be vigilant to the threats within our country, like the Marxists and communists czars planted into our government.
I-I-I-I-ME-ME-ME-ME-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:38pm.
THE SAME MILITARY HE HATES -MAY JUST SAVE HIS MISERABLE ARZE.
I would bet everything I own that if this had happened
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:39pm.
in 2003, you wouldn't hear these cretins crowing about W's accomplishment and saying you might as well cancel the 2004 election now. Whether it happened now or when W was in office, the brave SEALs deserve the credit, not some politician sitting in his over-stuffed chair who's not even close to being in harm's way.
I thought people on the left hated the military?
Submitted by VanPastorMan on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:39pm.
I guess it depends on if a Democrat is in the White House. These people are such hypocrites. See the difference between them and myself is that I am happy Bin Laden is gone. Now let's go after the rest of Al Qaeda and kill the rest of them. This is defense we are talking about. Al Qaeda wants to kill us and Israel. They've got to be taken out.
No...
Submitted by JamPony on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:59pm.
The Left doesn't hate the Military. We just don't have a problem holding them accountable. Also we don't worship them like gods.
The military isn't a Right Wing organization in case you didn't know.
Not right wing
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:15pm.
It's a VOLUNTARY organization and these soldiers deserve our respect which is more than you might be capable of. They also have more respect for our country and flag which again is more than you might be capable of.
What am I saying, you just called yourself a Lefty, nevermind, you are incapable.
-Jon
Sure, idiot, nothing right-wing about the military.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:22pm.
That's why the Marines are comprised almost entirely of academics and ex-college professors.
And those SEALS are even worse - why they're a virtual hotbed of liberal pacifism.
sickoflibs
Submitted by QMCS on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:44pm.
thanks for the chuckle.. :)
Of course you (the left) don't
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:39pm.
Also we don't worship them [the military] like gods.
Well of course you don't. You're too busy worshipping Obama.
BTW, the right doesn't "worship" the military. But they do have a healthy respect and admiration for the job they do. Big difference.
And let's not forget our gratitude...
Submitted by Rover on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:02pm.
Typically the Right views the military with gratitude for protecting our country and our principles.
Most liberals I talk to view the military as hired help for undesireable work, like the folks they'd bring in to pump their septic tanks, generally too stupid to get a real job.
Then there are frustrated Vietnam-era hippies who view our military as baby killers and always will default to the position that all evil in the world originates here.
(Of course, no generalization is always true...)
Zing !---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:37pm.
Zing !!
Zing !!!
Nice shot, Model850. :o)
MD
Wrong! You do hate the military.
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:22pm.
This is why you can't wait to impose Rules of Engagement for every conflict for holding them accountable. It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics you construct, your disdain for the military is quite evident.
JamPony the Ingrate
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:50pm.
On the contrary. You passionately hate the military. The military, and more importantly, the funding it gets, stands in the way of your dreamed-of Socialist Nanny State.
You don't treat the military "like gods"because your God is The State. If you had your way the government would nanny and baby every single person in this country from the moment the sun rose to the moment it set, from the womb to the tomb.
That the military gives you the freedom to endlessly bitch about how evil the military is on a website like this with total impunity from the government it defends is likewise totally lost on you. But then, Leftists have always been ingrates.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
There is one kind of military the left loves ...
Submitted by NL207 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:13pm.
An internal security force as large and as well funded as the military.
Election
Submitted by Mulligan22 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:46pm.
This is event, though important, will not have an effect on next years elections. People have short memories. We won the gulf war in 1991 George H.W. Bush had a 90 per cent approval rating, yet he lost the election one year later.
Gas prices, jobs and inflation will matter next year.
It's not 1991
Submitted by ckc1227 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:41pm.
And Obama isn't Bush. What happened then has no bearing on what might happen next year.
Hold on to this one
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:50pm.
"What happened then has no bearing on what might happen..."
Guess you never heard: “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
Failed history class too I'd bet. No need to learn about that stuff, right? It's not relevant.
Told ya. ckc1227 is not very bright at all
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:31am.
President George H.W. Bush was extremely popular after winning a war. But that did not mean too much in the next election as worries of the economy was on people's minds when it came time to vote.
Hey, insult, cut, run, insult, cut, run, insult, cut, run poster, still waiting for you to finally respond to your constant attacks on me only to run and get stupid elsewhere like here.
The Media has a substantial ability to control the dialogue
Submitted by Rover on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:08pm.
In 1992, the media worked very hard to NOT remind us of the Gulf War, and when they had to, they ALWAYS put up a video of Saddam giving a speah, to remind the viewers that we didn't take him out in the effort.
They hit the weak economy hard.
Next year, they'll spin the economy as constant improvement, and continue to talk about this as the most important military victory since V-J day, ENTIRELY to Obama's credit.
ofer...
Submitted by michiganruth on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:47pm.
omg! in every article about this it clearly says that the intel came from Gitmo prisoners, and that the operation started back in 2007.
Obama obviously gets huge credit for ordering the SEALs in, but it wouldn't have happened without the Bush policies.
can't we all just be happy that this was a big win for AMERICA today?
You Know How It Is...
Submitted by JamPony on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:53pm.
America is the team and Obama is the Quarterback.
He just threw a touchdown pass which won the game.
2012 is going to be a bleak year for Republicans.
If Obama is re-elected, it's
Submitted by ckc1227 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:41pm.
If Obama is re-elected, it's going to be a bleak 4 years for America.
Yeah, alright.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:58pm.
Whatever you say. The SEALs that got Bin Laden and the intelligence agents that found him don't get any credit, right?
Fat lot of good that "touchdown pass" would've done without the great wide-receiver to catch and run with it.
18 months is a long time from now. You think Obama can ride the goodwill from this for that long? You better hope so...
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Who let this troll in?
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:11pm.
eh?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
It crawled up the sewer pipe and just popped out of the toilet
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:16pm.
...one day.
LOL - We've been trying to flush it back whence it came ever since - so far with no success.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Keep drinking the Kool Aid, Pony
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:16pm.
How nice of you to continue to carry the water and spout the talking appoints.
Obama couldn't get reelected if the election were tomorrow. Seventeen months from now, when the economy is further down the toilet, and we're another trillion and a half in debt, and gas is somewhere north of $5 a gallon, he's going to get creamed, badly.
But enjoy your little happy delusion.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Want to put odds on the election?
Submitted by QMCS on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:50pm.
If the economy stays in the dumps I'm betting he's gonna make Carter's loss to Reagon look like a minor defeat.
And the play was teleprompted
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:21pm.
And the play was teleprompted to him by Dick Cheney after water boarding KSM. Now that's what I call teamwork!
It's going to be a GREAT YEAR FOR AMERICA and the GOP!
But who's the coach?
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:30pm.
"America is the team and Obama is the Quarterback."
But who's the coach? Who's the one who actually designs the plays and trains the Quarterback, as well as the rest of the team? Who's the one that decided to play this particular quarterback at this particular time? Who's the one who decides when to switch players on the field? Who's the one who's actually responsible for ether winning or losing? And, most importantly, who's the one who takes the blame when the team loses? As analogies go, you picked one of the worst. For a quarterback has a very limited affect on the entire game.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
The coach? George Soros.
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:30pm.
The coach? George Soros.
Coach?
Submitted by IrateNate on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:05pm.
More like the owner...
Dream on
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 7:52pm.
JammedPenis. Once gas prices break $5.00, you could win with a pile of turds.
That's assuming, of course,
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:03pm.
That's assuming, of course, they were "natural born".
Jer
Natural Born Turds???? Wasn't
Submitted by NC Cop on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:13pm.
Natural Born Turds????
Wasn't that a Tarantino movie????
Nice.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:31am.
We'll have to get their long form to answer that one. Could take years.
Tell that to all of the
Submitted by wendybar on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:52pm.
Tell that to all of the unemployed Americans, and all the other Americans that this Economy is affecting.
It's the ECONOMY STUPID!!! That is what people will be basing their votes on!!!
It is a Great Day for America, but it even though you wouldn't know it watching and listening to the MSM, it was really our brave men and women of the military who should be getting the credit.
Let the libs gloat now. It's
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:52pm.
Let the libs gloat now 'cause it's all hollow gloating. It's a long time between now and the 2012 elections and as the libs themselves have exploited, voters tend to have a short memory. Furthermore a lot will happen between now and election day that will influence things.
Don't count those chickens yet Joy
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 1:53pm.
As much as a victory as this is, I got in my car and had to pay $4.05 for gas. Prices are rising dramatically and our incomes are not. These are the issues Americans will be voting on in two years.
Obama is still a miserable failure. It's our Armed Forces who are the heroes here.
"Miserable Failure."
Submitted by JamPony on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:07pm.
Hahahahahahahaha....
How do you guys keep from puking? I mean the way you guys keep spinning its amazing.
Gas is going to go down. Get use to the idea. It won't be high for the next two years. And once gas goes down what are you going to complain about?
if gas prices is your winning platform I feel very, very, very, very sorry for you guys. It's going to be a long, long, long 8 years.
Gas is going down, to what 100 bucks a bbl
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:33pm.
The 2008 run up was a speculative bubble.
2011 is an infrastructure problem that will only get fixed with NEW DRILLING, and NEW refining.
You Didn't Build That.
See, here's the thing:
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:44pm.
People who have to make their own living are having a difficult time in America right now. There's this little thing we call "economics" (you'll learn about it in school some day) where the current administration is not very skilled. Their many missteps and bad policies are causing a lot of people to be out of work, and the dollar to be very weak (you'll learn about that concept some day, too), and the country to be at risk because of enormous debt and deficit (again, the difference between the two will hopefully be part of your curriculum one day).
For now, it's OK for you to enjoy yourself while you're still living with your folks. Believe what you like, and hope that, by the time you have to make your own way in the world, America will have a different president and a better economic profile.
Oh, and we'll expect you back to take your licks the next time your hero is in the news for his own policies instead of his predecessor's.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
JP
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:46pm.
I'd love to get used to the idea that gas is going down, it would thrill me.
What to complain about, hmm. How about inflation? How about unemployment? What about the failure that Obamacare is showing itself to be?
You are either taking some pretty strong illegal drugs or not taking your prescribed anti psychotics.
Funny, the Dems had the same
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:47pm.
Funny, the Dems had the same arrogant attitude to the run up of the 2010 elections. How did that work out for them? There are a number of issues of which energy is just but one major failing of this regime. There are millions of unemployed people who in all probability will be holding Obama responsible for their joblessness. Bush did it, won't fly on Nov 2012. Will the price of food be coming down anytime soon before the elections? Not likely and we know who is to blame for that one, don't we...the bitter AGW ethanol clinger.
But it will be interesting to see under what circumstances the price of gas will come down. Would that be because Obama gave in to domestic drilling? Continued to allow fracking even though liberals oppose it? If you are still around NB on Nov 3rd 2012 we will see who gets to eat crow.
JamPony, it's not even summer yet.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 9:19pm.
If gas prices go up to $6 or $7 a gallon, the afterglow from this will be snuffed right out.
In Nov. 2012, our debt will still be out of control. Corn-based ethanol will still be driving up food prices. We STILL won't be drilling our own oil. Even more of that awful ObamaCare will have come into effect, making things much worse for businesses who are unable to get exemptions. God knows how many jobs will be killed and businesses will go under thanks to Obama's authoritarian EPA. Unions will still be bullying taxpayers and job-providing companies. Those companies that can will flee overseas, but the taxpayers are stuck with SEIU thugs.
Obama's policies will still be hurting this country. But "he" got Bin Laden, right? You really, actually think THAT'S going to be the only thing on people's minds when they go into the voting booth?
Oh wait, you're just an Obama fanboy-troll trying to rile up people who don't salivate over Obama as much as you. When we come at you with the facts, you just run and hide, sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, "I'M NOT LISTENING! I'M NOT LISTENING! OBAMA IS THE MOST PERFECT PRESIDENT EVER! NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO CRITICIZE MY BELOVED OBAMA!" over and over again.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Naive or stupid? Definitely TROLL!
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:28pm.
Not sure if you're naive or stupid. But it's clear you're just a troll.
Did the "Hahahahahahahaha!" give it away?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:31pm.
;)
Or?
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:52pm.
Seriously?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Explanation required
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:48pm.
Explain how gas prices are going to go down.
And if I were you, you had better hope and pray His Majesty The Shahinshah loses next year. Because we students of history understand that traditionally, the second term is always the worst of the two that a President serves, if said President is a two-termer.
JamPony, history is...forget it.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns, you mean you don't know?
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:13pm.
Why, all the great and powerful, immortal Chairman and Light of the World has to do is make a wish, clap his hands three times, rub on the bottle, say the magic words, pinch Barbara Eden on the hiney, then command that the price of oil to go down and SHAZAM! just like that gas prices will fall like a rock - market forces be damned.
What this goober doesn't understand is the price at the pump will continue to increase as long as the supplies continue to dwindle.
LOL - I mean, this is basic beginner high school economics. Nothing hard about it, unless you are a total idiot like JP here.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Actually Dave, what JP wishes
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:25pm.
Actually Dave, what JP wishes for is that alternative energy would be competitive against oil, coal and gas. The Great Obama is granting her wish by INCREASING the price of oil, coal and eventually gas. Thus in the policy scheme of things Obama has no interest in bringing down the price of gasoline much less the other forms of formerly cheap energy. Obama has made it PERFECTLY CLEAR. Careful what you wish for because you just might get it!
In the liberal universe higher taxes and higher energy costs will SAVE THE NATION from the demon OIL! What? You're head isn't stuffed with cabbages? Repent you carbon sinner!
dan,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:51pm.
I agree.
The only problem is, "alternative energy" doesn't actually exist right now, and even if it did, depending on its composition, there is no national distribution system set up for it, and that will take years to build, just like it did with our current energy distribution infrastructure.
Someday someone may stumble onto a viable alternative energy source or develop a realistic technology, but that will be years down the road - perhaps decades, and most of us won't be around to see it.
In the meantime, we have to survive as a nation with a vibrant economy so as to be able to take advantage of what alternative sources might come along. $7/gal+ at the pump isn't going to get us there.
And if/when those sources or technologies are discovered or invented, it won't be the bloated, clumsy federal government that wills them into existence, but a healthy, efficient private sector, which we aren't likely to have if we stay on the road we are currently traveling.
I just don't get why these green energy people cannot see this.
Then again, they have never exactly been all that supportive of a healthy and expanding economy to begin with.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave, Dave, Dave, problems
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:58pm.
Dave, Dave, Dave, problems are only opportunities to be exploited endlessly thus giving the illusion of progress. It's all about the process thus continuous promises and slogans about an oil free economy. The idiots just eat it up.
HBS
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:52pm.
Interesting. i figured that Our Little Pony here was going to tell us all about how the President was going to magically knock all gas prices down to zero just by showing the world His HOT, BEAUTIFUL SMILE.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
"Explain how gas prices are
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:59pm.
"Explain how gas prices are going to go down."
Jamponyandthehorseherodeinon hasn't a clue.
Poor lil' JammedPenise
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:35am.
How do we keep from puking? We don't. Everytime we hear your ilk and their bs we puke.
Why is gas going to go down? Gonna convert wind to oil? Oh, I got it, in a few months we'll be running cars on algae. What a moron.
What will we complain about if gas prices go down? You're kidding right?
Look at the ass in the mirror next time you need someone to feel veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sorry for, simp.
The same ol' dumb media fantasy
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:06pm.
This is the same ridiculous fantasy the make believe media wanted in 2008! The MBM is still carrying Ears' water, but they can't hide forever the fact that he is in b-i-g trouble. Here are three good reasons:
Come on, GOP! Get a candidate with real nerve and put him/her against Ears next year!
NumbNuts, Both
Submitted by RightRealDeal on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:07pm.
One "hit" a President does not make. Even though Bin Laden was killed, I still paid $4.12 a gallon today.
Over on the HuffPo rag, all the libes think BHO is automatically reelected as well. Well, the mob orders hits and pulls them off too but they don't get elected President, do they?
Have no fear
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:47pm.
The left continually forgets the first rule of politics: You're only as good as your last failure. Considering Obysmal's batting average, Nov 2012 is still a LONG way off.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
As Shawn said on another
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:11pm.
As Shawn said on another thread, (I paraphrase) just because Obama gets one thing right doesn't erase all his other screw ups.
So now that Obama as a Democrat surpassed what Clinton would not do when he had 10 chances to do, he has the necessary killer instinct to be a leader? Yet for some reason Obama wasn't given very much credit for killing terrorists with drones? It seems to be a real leader/killer you have to risk a soldier's life to make your bones? Sorry Behar, you are going to have to do way better than that. Leadership is NOT a popularity contest any fool who thinks so should be boiled in their own seething caldron of stupidity.
Those Airhead
Submitted by Bob K on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:42pm.
bimbo's think he will be able to ride the glory train all the way until then with the economy in the dumper? LoL! Good luck with that.
Only the Lonely
Submitted by John21 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:44pm.
It used to be a pld song but with Bahar and Whoopi it their theme. Ms Bahar in reference to your stupid comment about cancel the election. That is what your hero has been trying to do for 2 years but, the economy, recession and hisfree spending will be front and center for the election. Killing a evil man half a world away will not sway any on the left or right and probably only a very few of the independents.
Onr good job does not make up for 500 Aw S--ts
Especially
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 2:53pm.
since that "good job" consisted entirely of signing approval on the policy of his predecessor.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Um...
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:03pm.
Wouldn't the ocean sort of obliterate clues, too? Don't we lucky American people even get a nice morgue shot for our delectation and enlightenment and to send us cheering into the streets? By the way, Joy, I see you sponsor Bayer--so no more Bayer aspirin for me.
Update!!!! It seems the
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:01pm.
Update!!!!
It seems the initial critical info leading to OBL's demise came from KSM via... wait for it, wait for it......WATER BOARDING!
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/05/irony-grows-deeper-key-int...
My, my, my, my, my, Obama has completely broke bad...touched the poisonous fruit of the vine. Of course now would be a good time for Obama to claim Bush did it! But then Obama would have to give up the credit or even worse fully share the credit with George W Bush and his VP Dick Cheney.
Bhahahahahahaha
→ Fruit of the poison tree?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:14pm.
So Obama acted on illegally obtained information?
Just wait till Eric Holder finds out.
BWAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!
Cool: it was a barbed-wire tap - most definitely illegal.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:33pm.
The subpoena is in the mail.
Y'all will have forgive me for not jumping head-first onto the..
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:20pm.
..."Obama took out Osama" bandwagon.
There are a lot of questions that have yet to be answered, and more are cropping up as each hour passes.
There are several aspects of this whole thing that just don't feel right to me, and it isn't just the timing, either.
And I am still questioning why it is that a total media whore dog like Osama suddenly gave up making his threatening videos and sending them off to his friends at Al Jazeera right around 2002 (there have been none since) shortly after which two reports surfaced that Osama had either died of natural causes, or had been assassinated - both of which reportedly happened during that same year, and either of which, if true, would explain the dearth of any further videos.
And now you have a POTUS and CIC who is considered by many not to have the stones for a fight, who kisses Muslim behind at every opportunity, has plummeting poll numbers, and in the space of a week finally releases his (alleged) BC, and then trots out in front of the media with Osama's body (allegedly) in tow - said body which has already reportedly been buried at sea.
I'm not trying to wax too conspiratorial here or anything, but I'm sorry, it all just seems a little too convenient, as Dave's smell meter is getting a couple of hits when sniffing around it.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Whoa--now they HAVE a body?
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:22pm.
Whoa--now they HAVE a body? Where did that come from?
Star,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:27pm.
Good question.
It supposedly was abruptly sent to the bottom of the sea, but who knows?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
what creeps
Submitted by scarletandgold on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:24pm.
what a bunch of potato,s that all the left are..potato,s
Thank You
Submitted by ripper58 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:29pm.
GWB for setting in place the polices to allow this president to take all the credit (how many times did he say "I", "me" in that speech ?) in KILLING America's #1 enemy...may UBL's soul rest fitfully in HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Americans (and these two) have short memories
Submitted by Restless Legs on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:43pm.
Don't they remember that Bush 41 had an 89% approval rating in February 1991... and it plummeted to 29 percent by July 1992? Everyone was hyped about Bush during the early phases of the Gulf War, but the glow faded quickly. Americans tend to have short memories and weak loyalties regarding such things. What delusional reasoning makes them think this incident will have any staying power with voters? 18 months from now, this will NOT be an issue at the ballot box. Dream on, ladies.
Exactly, Legs
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:56pm.
The situations are starkly similar.
Both have a military success over a year and a half before the next election. (Though in Bush-41's case, he successfully concluded a war. In Obama's case, the death of bin Laden is welcomed, but does not end the wars).
At this point, the opposition party had no strong candidates yet identified.
Analysts figured that Bush-41 was a shoe-in for er-election.
An unknown governor wins his party's nomination, and runs on perceptions of a week US economy (Data would later show that the US was actually recovering fro recession).
Experts write-off the challenger, but the challenger wins.
So now we get to watch and
Submitted by tampamom25 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 3:59pm.
So now we get to watch and alternate between laughter and nausea as the left try to spin this into some tale of how Obama is a big hero? Kudos to his advisors and to the brave heroes on the ground who made this mission possible, and oh yeah, thanks to Obama for saying yes to the plan. His speech was the beginning of a campaign to make it seem as if he is presidential, brave, interested in what's best for America, capable. Campaigning at it's finest. As for Behar, Whoopi and Barbara.....they are mouthpieces for the left and nothing more.
Advanced Interrogation Of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Killed Kill Bin
Submitted by im41 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:00pm.
Advanced Interrogation Of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Killed Kill Bin Laden -- Not Obama
http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2011/05/advanced-interrogat...
As a conservative I'm willing
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:02pm.
As a conservative I'm willing to give Obama credit where credit is due on the killing of Bin Laden. Even Rush Limbaugh was giving Obama credit.
So far I haven't heard even a tiny bit of credit from liberals to George W. Bush who laid the groundwork for Bin Laden's death.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonBeher and Walters...
Submitted by NVRAT on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:03pm.
Two of the biggest "Nit Wits" on TV. BHO a shoe-in for President what for? carrying out President Bush`s orders to get OBL. He (BHO) had to sign the order, with his ratings in the tank he needs all the help he can get besides, had he not done something word would have gotten out and then he would really be in the $HITTER (where he belongs)
Election 2012
Submitted by Crumpets on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:36pm.
The election is a long way off and who knows what may lie ahead. The death of bin Laden is 'not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps the end of the beginning.' There is still plenty of war on terror left. We can be glad bin Laden is dead, but the Hydra still has many heads left.There is also an economic crisis with $4. gas and massive unemployment. There is still a massive national debt. I doubt that the death of bin Laden will be the major campaign issue that these airheads think it will be.
Bush Gets Credit for everything then...not just selective
Submitted by PTW on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 4:36pm.
Ok newbusters, if you want to give Bush credit for his policies in the demise of bin Laden then we still say he gets credit for the great recession and subsequent economic meltdown.
Is it a deal?
Remember Bush said he didn't think much about bin Laden in 2002
Remember Bush closed the bin Laden Unit in 2006
Great Recession
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 2:37pm.
Bush should have done everything possible to restrict the crazy lending practices by the GSE's that resulted in the housing bubble, and the bursting of that bubble in 2007-8. He also should have insisted on some other remedy besides TARP, which was totally flawed.
Bush doesn't get off the hook, but Obama has exponentially compounded the problems and created some new huge ones all on his own.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
"Bush doesn't get off the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 2:55pm.
"Bush doesn't get off the hook, but Obama has exponentially compounded the problems and created some new huge ones all on his own."
I concur. Bush made several bad decisions when it came to government spending and financial issues. That's is true. It is also true that the Democratic controlled Congress also contributed greatly to the increases in spending. And it is also true that Obama has made the situation much, much worse especially the two years in which the Executive and Legislative branches were completely controlled by the Dems.
So I think the 2012 election will boil down to issues which are reflected in a Clintonian catchphrase (or more accurately a Carville-onian catchphrase). Namely, "it's the economy, stupid!"
Point of clarification on the
Submitted by dscott on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:44am.
Point of clarification on the GSEs, Bush tried repeatedly to restrict them, he was blocked by Congress and got zero cooperation from the Clinton appointed CEOs at the GSEs.
In fact US Senator Obama on one of the rare occasions he didn't vote PRESENT, voted against reform of the GSEs. Imagine that, the former lawyer for ACORN who forced Citibank to lend money to people who couldn't afford to pay it back voted to block GSE reforms to end such unsound mortgage lending practices. Yes, Obama exponentially made the problem worse by blocking reforms that could have blunted the debacle to a mere recession instead of the Depression we are now experiencing.
On TARP, I would agree with you, he was buffaloed by people whom he thought knew better.
IT'S A L - O - N - G TIME TO NOV. '12........
Submitted by Herbster on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 5:12pm.
Even with the prognostications of these two dried up has-beens, the fact remains that the '12 election will be won or lost on pocketbook issues. Fortunately, the cretins that watch The View/Oprah/Dr. Phil will not tip the election one way or the other.
As for our present "Commander in Chief," I don't think he has the backbone to command a menu at Spago's. We know that he and the angry wife don't care for the military.
However, there is hope for a change in the family occupying the public housing known as the White House in '12.
"The future will surely triumph over the perpetual yesterday."
Heinz Guderian
Oh No!!!!
Submitted by sngnsgt on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 6:37pm.
Osama got to heaven and discovered the 72 virgins all looked like Joy Behar and Whoppi Goldberg.
More bimboeze from the looney tunes on the Veiw!
Submitted by ironhead4099 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 8:25pm.
Well the Witches of Eastwick, ( the view) are cackling over their cauldron again! More bimboeze from No Joy, BaBa Wawa, and Whoopie! I suggested a lobotomy for Chris Matthews last week, these witches should be in the same line for that!
No credit to Obama
Submitted by russedav on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 9:06pm.
As with Gates, Obama deserves no real credit for this military operation that was but a hold-over from the prior administration (I didn't say "Bush" since the person in office is irrelevant to our military); the deranged infantile fop is on auto-pilot, having never done an honest day's work, being too busy on the links to actually work or take personal responsibilty, just steal credit from the military personnel that alone deserve credit and ultimately God, sole Creator and Sustainer. If it had been an adult, even Bush, he'd have taken no credit for the operation, the accompanying humility of a true, great president, so unlike the present counterfeit.
And speaking of the operation over which "conservatives" are as giddy as "liberals" in their rejoicing, to introduce a cold blast of reality, remember the dangers of Nuremburg: we were stooges/accomplices of grossly hypocritical and evil soviet self-righteousness (cold-blooded stalinist butchers of 20-30 million) sitting in jugment over relatively innocent nazis (cold-blooded hitlarist butchers of 6-10 million Jews and others), FDR being Stalin's fellow commie-fascist whore, and are now paying for it with the price of 50+ million of our unborn, under God's jugment (and still ignoring the same) for ignoring His warning that vengeance was His alone, having abandoned Christian legal principles for the trials to get the vile soviets on board and so engaging in a vile spectacle of soviet-inspired ungodly lawlessness that made FDR's slavemaster uncle joe proud. This is a time for sober reflection in the fear of God (not disallowing thanksgiving for the death of an evil butcher that has Biblical precedent), not whooping and hollering that should be too much like Joy and Whoopi and Barbara for "conservatives" not to be disquieted. God save us all.
Great Day
Submitted by m1xram on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:54am.
While this is a great day and reaffirms that the Bush Administrations interrogation methods were a great success, people will still have to balance Obama's victory against...
Wouldn't cancel the election just yet, depends completely on the Republican ticket.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
Who cares what these ignorant bimbos think?
Submitted by Patriot II on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 10:41am.
Why not just make the O blah blah king you pathetic mental midgits!!!
Joy Brey-hard = Obese Donkey-Woman
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:32pm.
This fat cow wasn't even watchable when all she tried to do was imitate Jackie Mason as a whiney, Jewish comic. Now she has her own talk show in addition to this one, because her demographic is growing as the economy vaporizes.
No jobs, no growth and the demographic that fuels her "popularity" is spawned by the descent of the USA into 3rd world status......
Obese, self-loathing women who blame men for all the world's ills while they squat in their doublewides and shovel KFC down their gullets by the bucket make up the 376 people that actually watch this cow.
Bush was a War Criminal - OBumble is a saint.
The world according to the Brey-tard.
The Obamination... A crisis leading to a catastrophe..(please donate to MRC)