George Stephanopoulos: Nation's 'Gas Gripes' Are 'Knocking Down' Obama's Polls
Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Monday described the country's "gas gripes" over rising fuel costs, adding, "Soaring prices lead to new pain for the President as big oil gets ready to report record profits." (MP3 audio here.)
The former Democratic operative turned journalist tried to put the best spin on Barack Obama's growing problems: "And, Jake, these gas prices are also knocking down President Obama's poll numbers, which is why he's out there nearly every day addressing this problem."
Reporter Jake Tapper, on the other hand, provided a more balanced look, pointing out, "When President Obama was sworn in, gas averaged $1.84 a gallon. Today, it's $3.86. And as prices have spiked since January, the President's approval ratings have sunk."
[See video below.]
He even featured an angry motorist who complained, "Maybe President Obama could step down and let somebody else take over."
After noting that four in ten Americans say gas prices are causing an "extreme hardship" for them, Tapper informed, "And those Americans are much more apt to say they won't even consider voting for President Obama's reelection."
Tapper's segment is a change from Friday when the program didn't mention political problems as a result of rising fuel costs. (See a study by the Business and Media Institute's Julia Seymour for more on media coverage of Obama and gas prices.)
A transcript of the April 25 segment, which aired at 7:08am EDT, follows:
7am tease
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Gas gripes. Soaring prices lead to new pain for the President as big oil gets ready to report record profits.
7:08
STEPHANOPOULOS: Now to those climbing gas prices. They are taking a toll on so many of you and any anger you feel about it is likely to rise this week when oil companies report what are expected to be record profits. ExxonMobil is likely to rise 60 percent for a total of $10 billion. And Shell is up nearly 22 percent for a nearly six billion dollars in profit. Jake Tapper is at the White House for us this morning. And, Jake, these gas prices are also knocking down President Obama's poll numbers, which is why he's out there nearly every day addressing this problem.
ABC Graphic: Obama's Oil Backlash: Rising Prices Fueling Rising Anger
JAKE TAPPER: That's right, George. And in fact, just a few days ago, President Obama told campaign contributors, quote, "My poll numbers go up and down depending on the latest crisis. And right now, gas prices are weighing heavily on people." They are indeed and President Obama knows they could be a roadblock to his re-election. From California-
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Gas prices are bad. It's really hard to even afford to fill up my own car. It costs $100 bucks.
TAPPER: To Ohio-
SECOND UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Maybe President Obama could step down and let somebody else take over.
TAPPER: To Georgia-
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Something is going wrong. Someone is not doing their job right.
TAPPER: From Washington State-
THIRD UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: It's $80 For 18 gallons of gas. It's awful.
TAPPER: To near Washington D.C.
SECOND UNIDENTIFIED MAN: It's getting outrageous. It really is.
TAPPER: When President Obama was sworn in, gas averaged $1.84 a gallon. Today, it's $3.86. And as prices have spiked since January, the President's approval ratings have sunk.
THIRD UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I don't know too much about politics or how to go about fixing things. But, I'm sure there's a lot that can be done.
TAPPER: 71 percent Of Americans say the rising price of gasoline is causing them financial hardship, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll. President Obama says there is no quick fix. He's pushing for a long-term energy plan, reducing foreign imports by a third by 2025.
BARACK OBAMA: Whenever gas prices shoot up, like clock work, you see politicians racing to the cameras, waving three-point plans for $2 gas.
TAPPER: After all, what can a President do?
JOHN KINGSTON (Director of news, Platts): He can order up yet another silly, pointless investigation into the price of crude.
OBAMA: I asked my attorney general looking into any cases of price gouging.
GEORGE W. BUSH: There will be no price gouging at gas pumps in America.
KINGSTON: It never, ever turns up anything. The only thing it does is keep some lawyers busy.
TAPPER: And, George, four in 10 Americans are saying that gas prices are causing them not just an economic hardship, but a serious economic hardship. And those Americans are much more apt to say they won't even consider voting for President Obama's reelection. George?
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How about BO mishandling the country's energy
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:12pm.
needs and pandering with our enemies in the middle east. Perhaps that may have just a tad to do with why I paid $4.50 a gallon this morning for gas.
Once it hits $5.00 you could run a pile of turds against BO and beat him in 2012. Keep up the good work georgie and company.
Once it hits $5.00 you could
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:26pm.
Once it hits $5.00 you could run a pile of turds against BO and beat him in 2012. Keep up the good work georgie and company.
But... but... Juan Williams says nobody can beat Obama! ;-)
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Obama has an ace...
Submitted by Anon150 on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 5:15pm.
He'll form a 'task force' or some committee apparatus, and spend the rest of the summer "explaining" to us the subtle nuance of the goodness of the high gas and food prices he bestoweth upon us mere peasants!
Can't wait for the speeches! And, hey! Put Biden in charge!
Woo-hoo!
First off, "former Democratic
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:16pm.
First off, "former Democratic operative"? IMHO Stephanopoulos is STILL a Democrat operative who happens to receive paycheck from ABC News.
The cause-and-effect theory implying rising gas prices are the sole or even main reason why Obama's poll numbers are dropping is simplistic and erroneous. There are a plethora of factors all contributing to Obama's dropping poll numbers (ex. -- Libya, Gitmo not closing as promised, huge deficit, rising debt, many other promises broken, etc.) of which the rising gas prices are included.
Does anyone else remember Obama proclaiming that he wouldn't mind if gas prices go up to $10 a gallon? His reasoning, if I remember correctly, was that it would force people to buy over-priced, inefficient hybrids. Well, he apparently doesn't get the fact that is the average, non-rich person (remember those folks of whom he claims won't get tax increases?) who can't afford uber-high gas prices most certainly can't afford to suddenly go out and buy a hybrid or electric (even more expensive and inefficient) vehicle.
Indeed
Submitted by mel21221 on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:36pm.
Gas prices are a symptom ... Obama is the disease that must be eradicated in November 2012.
Delusional as usual
Submitted by The Irishman on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:33pm.
Now comes a claim that hybrids are in fact inefficient, despite real world facts such as increased fuel efficiency and cleaner burning engines. But let's ignore the facts for sake of argument. Let's move on to the outrageously overpriced hybrid quandary. Well, we could take a look at the Honda Insight that starts under $20,000. Ford, Toyota, Honda, Saturn, Chevy and Nissan all sell hybrids under the $30,000 mark. But let's ignore the facts again for sake of argument.
On second thought, let's not ignore the facts. Instead, let's just stay honest.
Saturn sells a hybrid, Zippers?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:57pm.
Really?
Nothing like shooting down a defenseless birdbrain, SoL
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 4:33pm.
Nice shooting, though.
Saturn selling hybrids, eh? That's quite the trick, seeing how they quit producing cars back in the fall of 2009.
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"Irishman" makes it up as he
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:43am.
"Irishman" makes it up as he goes along. Must get his "facts" from Ed Schultz.
Indeed, Irish. Saturn closed
Submitted by bassndude on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 3:26pm.
Indeed, Irish. Saturn closed up shop. Way to stay on top of things. Just like your on top of the engines. In reality, they are the same engines in the non hybrids. Secondly, they really don't save energy. They require that you charge them using electricity. That requires energy produced by gas, coal or nukes. While charging your battery, you lose a percentage of the power produced by the plant due to conversion from AC to DC. You next lose a percentage of the power input into the battery while using the battery to power your car. You don't save a dime. You may, in reality spend more on energy than you would without the car. You just spend it in different places is all.
In the case of ethanol, you spend more on groceries than you would without ethanol. So, today, we pay more for gas, electricity and food than we would without all the energy saving plans the liberals have put out there. Not to mention taxes that are used to pay off the ethanol produces, and other "green" crap out there.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Yes
Submitted by The Irishman on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 4:16pm.
Ignore the other 5 or 6 companies I named.
And never mind that modern hybrids not only don't require a plug-in charge, but can not be plugged in even if the owner wishes.
Care to revise your argument now that we're including the facts?
And don't forget about those lovely hybrid batteries
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 4:37pm.
A nice little additional cost as a hybrid owner on down the road.
Nice backpedal. Again. You mis-state facts and then moan about bass revising his arguments, due to one of your little feints?
That's pretty rich, BackPedal.
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Very mature
Submitted by The Irishman on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 8:52am.
Stick to the minor error and continue to ignore the facts of my statement.
You can't plug in a hybrid, Zippers? Really?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 5:36pm.
Ever hear of Chevy Volt? Toyota Prius?
Boy, you've really been screwing up here lately, huh? First that "7 million year old human fossil" thing last week and now this.
Maybe you should stick to just "HA!" for a few months to give your ass time to heal.
Genius #2
Submitted by The Irishman on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:00am.
The plug in Prius is not being sold today. It will be available in 2012 according to your laughable wikipedia link.
And the Chevy Volt is a new breed of plug-in hybrids.
And oh yeah, once again your own wiki link states the cost of electric power is about 1/4 the cost of gasoline.
"Beep. Beep. Beep."
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:35am.
The sound of Zippers backing up. Again.
TI Never, ever seen one of these?
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 6:05pm.
L@@k (I found that on the google search "plug in hybrid")
Hauling around extra mass is an energy waster. Batteries suck up the useful payload of any vehicle, also there is large electric motor, AC/DC inverter, and generator hooked up to the gasoline engine.
Battery hobbies are fine as long as my tax dollars do not fund them like this:Sounds like my old slot car.
You Didn't Build That.
Furthermore
Submitted by The Irishman on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:06am.
Myth #1: A significant number of plug-in hybrids are currently for sale. Although several major auto manufacturers — including General Motors, Toyota, Ford, Volkswagen, and Volvo — have plug-in vehicles currently in the development pipeline, the first wave of these cars is still at least a year away from officially hitting the market, Jehlik said. The first plug-in hybrid for sale will likely be the Chevrolet Volt, which General Motors claims can travel up to 40 miles on a single charge. The Toyota Prius and other hybrids currently on the roads are not plug-ins — their batteries are charged by kinetic energy transferred from the brakes and wheels.
The article is several years old but if anyone wants to prove this information otherwise, feel free to make yourselves look even more foolish than you already have.
FACT: Hybrids are not prohibitively expensive
FACT: Hybrids do not cost more to power than gasoline operated vehicle
FACT: Hybrids are in fact more fuel efficient than gasoline operated vehicles.
Oh, but He said Saturn makes a hybrid!
Yoo hoo, Zippers...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:52am.
Note the ORANGE EXTENSION CORD plugged into the $42,000 Chevy Volt.
Now stop embarrassing yourself.
Zippius, your link several years old, LOL , get up to date, fool
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 11:58am.
New for 2011
The new generation of plug-in vehicles has finally hit showrooms. Need help figuring out which one to lease or buy? Perhaps you’re a dealer, wanting to keep your customers in the know.
Either way, the answer is Charged Up & Ready to Roll: The Definitive Guide to Plug-in Electric Vehicles, 2011 edition, available now. Our new, updated edition is bursting with the latest, expert info about choosing, financing, driving and charging these clean vehicles. You’ll find everything from a primer on charging levels to a vehicle showcase with each new plug-in’s range, price and photo. A user-friendly look at battery technology delves into cells and electrodes. Our famous EV myths (and facts) have grown to a 14-point list.
You Didn't Build That.
UCW: know what Zippers drove before his gas-guzzlin Mini, right?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 12:13pm.
An Alva-Matic XLS.
He just got blown off the LA freeway one too many times, so he traded it in for a smaller but slightly heavier death trap.
SoL, On the waiting list for this..algore ponies under the hood.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 1:43pm.
At $629,999.95. it's affordable too.
Slippery zippious: No way to plug it in. Voila! You don't have to plug it in.
You Didn't Build That.
UCW: that was great!
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 2:06pm.
.
At any point in time
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:17am.
You are all free to dispute the facts I have presented. I know you won't though.
OK Irish, please answer the following
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:41am.
How long would it take for a consumer to recoup his money even at todays gas prices?
Volt
Colbalt
Fact is, the Volt will require thousands of dollars in upkeep before the the consumer ever gets close to breaking even. I wont bother getting into the higher electric bill encored, even as our Gov wages it's war on energy.
Pay particular attention to the small print under the list price of the Volt. Guess who pays that?
Okay
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:40am.
Hybrid vehicles are not prohibitively expensive. Do you believe otherwise?
Hybrid vehicles are more fuel efficient than traditional gas powered engines. Do you believe otherwise?
Today's current lineup of hybrids are not required to be plugged into an electrical outlet for power. The Volt is the first hybrid to introduce this feature, but it is not required. From the Volt's Q&A page:
A. While Volt has been designed to be the most efficient when it's plugged in daily, it will run efficiently without being plugged in for days, weeks or even months. With Volt, you don't have to plug in every day if it doesn't accommodate your schedule.
Now you also mentioned the thousands in maintenance required to own the Volt. What exactly are you predicting? It comes with a 3 year/36,000 mile warrantee and it's barely been on the road. Clearly the government offers a substantial rebate for buying this car, which is what they have done in the past with other hybrids and will likely continue to offer for future hybrids. Again, this example does not mean you can't purchase a cheaper hybrid.
7,000 miles to a gallon of fuel. No way it's "hybrid"
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 1:56pm.
F=ma
No batteries, inverters or electric motors, to waste fuel efficiency.
You Didn't Build That.
LOL, now Zippers is the plug-in Chevy Volt expert.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 2:11pm.
After claiming that it does not exist.
Is there a theoretical limit as to how times you can have your ass handed to you on one thread?
Face it
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 3:49pm.
You have been defeated. That happens sometimes.
LOL Zippers, disproving your statements = I've been defeated?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 4:12pm.
Go reread my all responses and tell me where I was incorrect. You will note that I made no statement regarding either fuel economy or gas vs. hybrid.
Research what you post first - then you may save yourself from (some) embarrassment.
Such devastating posts
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 4:20pm.
....as mb would say, all hair, no forehead.
Zippers' middle name is "Embarrassed".....Zippers Embarrassed BackPedal.
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Alright, alright
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 4:32pm.
Exactly what are you here to dispute this time?
Poor little BackPedal
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:27pm.
.....you can't figure it out without a road map, can you?
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We can get to the point...
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:30pm.
...much faster if you answer this one simple question:
What are you disputing?
Some of your *ahem* non-facts
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:42pm.
....which of course, when you get caught asserting as truth, you BackPedal and try the "don't look at that stupid thing I said....look over here instead".
Poor little BackPedal. Fossils and hybrid vehicles aren't exactly your forte, are they?
I bet you didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, didja?
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Holiday Inn?
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:18pm.
What does that mean??? It makes no sense!
So, if you won't argue something with me, you must be in agreement with all of my positions here. Is that what I am to understand?
Blonde is right AGAIN!
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:31pm.
You're right Blonde, he has never been to a Holiday Inn Express.
Probably hasn't even seen a
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:52am.
Probably hasn't even seen a Holiday Inn Express. Probably thinks it's a fast train to liberal-land.
You failed Irish
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:04pm.
You neglected to answer the question. Major fail!
The Volt will require a Bat replacement after about 7 yrs. My local dealer is charging upwards of $2500.oo and up, if you also get the replacement cabling for the same, witch they recommend.
And that $2500 is 2011.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:20pm.
Imagine what that would turn into by 2018.
Wait a minute, what am I talking about? A Chevy Volt lasting seven years?! Riiiiight.
You failed, Boudin
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:23pm.
Volt-Specific Warranty
For vehicles sold in the United States, in addition to the Bumper‐to‐Bumper Coverage described previously, General Motors will warrant certain Voltec® components for each Chevrolet Volt, (hereafter referred to as Voltec®) for 8 years or 100,000 miles (160 000 kilometers), whichever comes first, from the original in‐service date of the vehicle, against warrantable repairs to the specific Voltec® components of the vehicle.
Propulsion Battery Warranty Policy
Like all batteries, the amount of energy that the high voltage “propulsion” battery can store will decrease with time and miles driven. Depending on use, the battery may degrade as little as 10% to as much as 30% of capacity over the warranty period. A dealer service technician will determine if the battery energy capacity (kWh storage) is within the proper limit, given the age and mileage of the vehicle. Typical tests can take up to 24 hours.
Mr. Goodwrench, are ya now Zippers?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:28pm.
Stop dodging - what did you do with those cats?
Those paragraphs
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:33pm.
Are direct from the downloadable warrantee pdf from the Volt site.
And what's with your feline fetish? It's starting to make me feel uncomfortable.
Uncomfortable. Leprechaun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:38pm.
is the feeling people get when a spinning dervish like you has access to a keyboard.
Trying to keep track of your twists, turns, and reversals is dizzying.
But interesting.
Carry on.
MD
Very good Irish
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:00pm.
8yrs/100k great?
But you have still failed to answer "how long will it take the consumer to recoup the ($18,000) dollars even at today's gas prices" ? Fact is, you wont. I have researched this fairly well, as the wife and I were considering a hybrid purchase. But we could not justify the larger price, smaller car, and additional money in interest. So we purchased a 30mpg car.
Maybe in a few more years, but not yet. BTW, I thought you said 36mo/36K? But in reality it is 5yrs/100K. You need to double check your facts.
BTW my favorite hybrid is the Lincoln, my bud gets 38mpg with his. Cost was about 15k more then the same gas model.
Page 2
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:14pm.
Of the downloadable, and current warrantee, states a 3 year/36,000 mile bumper to bumper warrantee. If you read your link closely the document refers to 2009 and 2010 vehicles only.
I do not know how long it will take a consumer to recoup the cost of a hybrid. I suppose that would depend on how much the car is driven. If your commute is 50 miles a day and you upgraded from a 20 mpg to a 50 mpg hybrid you're going to make up that difference pretty quickly, much quicker than a consumer who merely drives around town.
But my earlier point which still stands true is that $18K is not unattainable for most families. There are low priced options, and they are more efficient than their gasoline only counterparts. Is $18,000 considered expensive for a car?
For the record, I hate the Prius. It's the ugliest car on the road. Inside is worse than the outside. And we own 2 vehicles in our family and neither gets 30+ mpg.
Well Irish
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:25pm.
If you divide 4.00 a gal into 18K you get 4500. Now 4500 gal x 30mpg = 135,000.
At 3.00 a gal into 18K you get 6000 gal x 30mpg = 180,000.
So you see, recouping your money is not passable, unless you plan to drive the wheels off of it, and risk major repairs.
I think we are done here, eh?
Almost done...
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:15pm.
Your math is completely flawed. Why are you dividing 18K by 4.00 a gallon? Sure it equals 4500, but what does the price of the car relate to the price of gas in this case?
At $23,000 the Prius yields 50 mpg. To go 50,000 miles in a Prius you would divide 50,000 by 50 to get a total of 1000 gallons needed. Multiply that times $4 a gallon and you get $4000.
In comparison, a Toyota Camry starts at $19,820 yielding 28 mpg. Using the same math, 1785 gallons would be needed, and at $4 a gallon it would total $7140 to go the same distance.
So using this example, roughly 50,000 miles would be your answer in this case. But aren't prices heading towards $5 a gallon?
Look Irish
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:14pm.
You have to compare correctly, Prius @ 50mpg and 24K against a Corolla at 35mpg @ 15.5K.Lets not pretend that the cost is equivalent.
So 9k divided by 4 bucks a gal is 2250gal x 35mpg=78,750. That is about 4-5 years for the average driver. Still a long time, with Bat replacement right around the corner.
You're not comparing equal vehicles
Submitted by The Irishman on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:28am.
The Prius is automatic. The Corolla is manual. For these to compare you must consider the additional features that come standard on each vehicle. This is like saying you saved money on a pickup by purchasing
You might also consider the immediate impact of owning a hybrid. Assuming you drive 1000 miles per month, somewhat of an average number, it will cost approximately $80 a month to drive a Prius. In contrast it will cost $115 a month for the Corolla, a savings of $420 a year.
Your math still doesn't make sense. Where does $9000 come from? If it's the price difference between the 2 vehicles it's more like $7500. But the price of the car should not be considered before concluding the cost per mile of each vehicle. At $4 a gallon, the Prius costs $.08 per mile while the Corolla costs $.11 per mile. Now if you say the average driver racks up 78,750 per 5 years of driving, that's $6300 for the Prius and $8662.50, and a difference of $2362.50.
Now consider the cost difference between vehicles with equal features and we'll talk again.
Nice timing, eh?
Submitted by The Irishman on Sun, 05/01/2011 - 2:39pm.
Yahoo!
Yawn.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/01/2011 - 2:51pm.
Go away Another Dead Angry Black Pickled Kitten Eating Judgment Rushing Guttermothed Zippers. We don't care about the poo you spew.
Favorite hybrid, 200 hp from a flywheel
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:23pm.
Porsche 918
You Didn't Build That.
Boudin, that assumes it
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:53am.
Boudin, that assumes it survives 7 years. There are some experts that think the vehicle won't last as long as standard vehicles. Also as I understand it, repairs on those type vehicles are much more expensive.
and there's more Beuke*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 10:10am.
Have you seen those cars? I live in south La right at sea level. An ordinary rainstorm of 4-5" of rain causes heavy flooding with 40 to 50 mph winds is normal here. If I was to drive one of those little tin cans near the rice fields during a storm, I would find myself floating down the Teche all the way to Morgan City. Safety first in my neighborhood.
Mr. GO
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 10:31am.
Put some pontoons on it and make it a watercraft. Take it down the Mr. GO for some fishing.
I would not want to be driving one of those lightweight things and get behind a semi on the interstate.
So
Submitted by The Irishman on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 2:31pm.
Which experts think the Volt won't last as long as standard vehicles? And let's talk about repair costs too. Do you know how many Volt owners have paid repair costs to date? I suspect zero, since they are all under warrantee. How about the number of Volt owners who have in fact had trouble with their new cars?
Your entire argument here is based on the speculation of "some experts" who remain unnamed.
Zippipedia: where overt errors and misstatements are "facts."
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:53am.
.
Actually, much of those
Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 10:15am.
Actually, much of those "facts" (as you put it) prove to be false, fabricated and/or merely your woefully uninformed opinions.
Can't plug in a hybrid? Why
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 3:59pm.
Can't plug in a hybrid? Why not? They cut your electric off? So how do you charge your batteries? Oh no! You mean...you mean...you have to drive the car using your gasoline engine, burning 5 dollar a gallon fuel to charge your batteries????
Talk about a dream car for a moron! You go Irish!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
I see
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 4:10pm.
If your arguments are going to be based solely on your own misunderstanding of basic hybrid technology, it means you have failed to read any of the links I have provided that would explain such.
Why do you suppose they call it a hybrid rather than an electric car? Take a minute (continue when ready). That's because it is part electric and part gas, a mixture, a hybrid. Naturally it would be part gas and part electric.
Yeah, you're going to have to pay for fuel still, but you'll be getting 40-50+ miles per gallon. Does that fit your definition of "less efficient than the gasoline engine?"
Leprechaun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:28pm.
Your debate skills may suck, and you may always end up with your own 'facts' placed none too gently in your own end, as it were; but aside from the fact that you are a mook, your scrabblings hither and yon are good entertainment.
MD
Thank you?
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:34pm.
I guess?
You're welcome---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 6:40pm.
I think.
MD
Dude, seriously
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:01pm.
You're kind of cracking me up.
Irishman~
Submitted by GG_NB on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:07pm.
Somewhere I saw a comment that your dog was banging her head against the wall. Please don't let your dog bang her head against the wall.
I've had nothing but important things to say all day. (^_^)
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
It was pure frustration
Submitted by The Irishman on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 7:16pm.
But she's curled up at my feet now asleep behaving just perfectly.
On second thought, I'm going to check for a concussion.
Dead Zippers lies again.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 12:26pm.
From, of all places, the Washington Post editorial page.
An Energy Department-funded analysis by the National Research Council, a congressionally chartered body, has concluded that plug-in electric hybrid vehicles probably will not produce significant savings in either greenhouse gas emissions or fuel consumption for at least another two decades — even with massive government subsidies. .
Therefore, plug-in hybrid vehicles will remain extremely expensive — the gas savings more than canceled out by their sticker price. They’ll probably account for only about 13 million of the 300 million vehicles on the road in the United States by 2030. Not until 2047 is it probable that the fuel savings of the entire fleet of plug-in hybrids would balance out the subsidies necessary to make them cost-competitive with conventional vehicles. And the government will have to spend $303 billion to get to that point.
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13 million? I'd say that's a
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 12:38pm.
13 million? I'd say that's a generous estimate.
BRILLIANT!!!
Submitted by The Irishman on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 2:26pm.
Except there are no facts in your report.
An Energy Department-funded analysis by the National Research Council, a congressionally chartered body, has concluded that plug-in electric hybrid vehicles probably will not produce significant savings in either greenhouse gas emissions or fuel consumption for at least another two decades — even with massive government subsidies. .
Therefore, plug-in hybrid vehicles will remain extremely expensive — the gas savings more than canceled out by their sticker price. They’ll probably account for only about 13 million of the 300 million vehicles on the road in the United States by 2030. Not until 2047 is it probable that the fuel savings of the entire fleet of plug-in hybrids would balance out the subsidies necessary to make them cost-competitive with conventional vehicles. And the government will have to spend $303 billion to get to that point.
Since when are "probables" considered facts?
Probables*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 2:34pm.
Estimates and "probables" are most appropriate when dealing with "consumer" issues. When the Feds mandate you buy a hybrid then the "estimates" will change to a more accurate "probable".
How DARE they!
Submitted by brutony1 on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:42pm.
Use rising gas prices, unchecked, to vent against a sitting President? Why, that hasnt happened since,,oh yeah, the last pres, when PRES Bush was in office, then it was "fair game" on him, Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, blah blah blah.,but now its O'Bozo, and hes "different" and hes doing this because he "cares" and... oh never mind!
BTW, hbnolikeee, can I use your quote as my tagline please? Thats got to be the line of the year so far-kudos!
"Once it hits $5.00 you could run a pile of turds against BO and beat him in 2012."
When will liberals WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! -Me
brutony1
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:41pm.
Enjoy the tag line and spread the good news of it!
Well let me just say it!
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:45pm.
IF George W. Bush was still the president they would be blaming him. In fact I believe that EVERYTIME gas went up during his presidency they (LIB media types) like Georgie Snuffleupagus, Cokie "Obama girl Roberts" Katie "Obama butt kisser" Couric Matt "Brownnoser" Lauer and the rest of the lib lackeys would have had President Bush on a spit blaming him. Instead this lot look away from the White House for blame, and only go there to drink that recycled Kool-Aide from the Obama Urinal.... I guess it was suffleupagus's turn to be first at the fountain of Obama Kool-aide, I bet he drank it straight from the souce this time.
Steffi is Stewing
Submitted by Utherpend on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:44pm.
Poor Steffi, he cant seem to put two and two together. An incompetent leader, bad policies, do nothing panels, over spending and three wars and he is pissy about oil prices? Gee Steffi I wonder what else can go wrong for the Pretender in Chief.
Nothing but panels?
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:54pm.
Surely you jest!
As a candidate for president, Barack Obama called study commissions created by politicians "Washington-speak for we'll get back to you later."
He mocked his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, for suggesting a commission study the Wall Street meltdown, saying, "We don't need a commission to tell us how we got into this mess, we need a president who will lead us out of this mess, and that's the kind of president I intend to be."
But President Obama has already created about two dozen study commissions, blue-ribbon panels and task forces of his own -- roughly one a month since he took office -- to study not only major economic issues but childhood obesity, Hispanics and the middle class.
Most recently, Obama announced he was creating a commission to investigate whether manipulation of the oil markets was causing gas prices to soar.
Yeah, that's the ticket. Another blue ribbon commission to study the problem, Barry. I could sell you a clue right now for a dollar, Mr. Obama. Go look in a mirror and all will be revealed.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Not certain about the jest,
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:56pm.
Not certain about the jest, but please don't call him Shirley. :-)
His roots
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:56pm.
Well of course he creates commissions and study panels!
You know as well as I (probably better than I, actually) that it's just him falling back on his only "strength" (and I use the word VERY loosely). His roots are in community organization (agitation) and the only solution he knows for any problem is to form a committee to study it, and hope the issue resolves itself so he then can claim credit. Of course when the problem persists he just blames the committee/panel for failing to fully comprehend the complexities of the situation -- and then forms another panel to further study things.
Well deserved
Submitted by jackieaxe on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 12:51pm.
It's right that the polls indicate people's unhappiness with Obama and high gas prices. No one had worked harder to rise the price of oil than Obama. And for thoses "record profits", how's GE doing?
urp....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:01pm.
"which is why he's out there nearly every day addressing this problem."
That huge sucking sound you hear is Stephanopoulos. And how is "the One" addressing it? Why, by ignoring the Fed as it continues flooding the market with cheap money. By insisting that "green energy" (the new "red energy") is the way to go. By preventing any drilling or exploration by U.S. companies on U.S. soil. Thru policy decisions the object of which may not be to collapse the economy of the U.S., but will nonetheless result in that collapse.
Has anyone read the headline at www.drudgereport.com this morning?
My Car Is...
Submitted by GeneralAl on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:02pm.
My car is twelve years old with 150,000 miles on it. I get 17 mgg in the city. I live in Illinois where they tax anything but thought [They're working on a way to tax that!]. I pay more for less, can't afford anything else, and how does Obama respond? He'd tell me get a new car. I've got a better idea. Let's get a new president, one who has more experience than a failed community organizer!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
Oh Yah?!!!
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:07pm.
Well Obama's restrictive policies of "necessarily skyrocketing" energy prices are knocking his presidency down.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Nice way to "address" the problem.
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:15pm.
So, Obama is "addressing" the problem of rising fuel costs by, you guessed it, burning up hundreds of pounds of fuel every day traveling all around the country giving speaches. Yea, that's like an alcoholic "addressing" the drunk driving by holding a wine-tasting seminar in every State.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
→ "former" Democratic operative?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 1:42pm.
Sorry, Scott. You lost me on that one.
Gas gripes??
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:03pm.
Um, no, it's every time that the Chairman opens his mouth about how we need to trade in a car/truck that's been paid for and in good working condition for a piece of crap Volt and some other expensive GM product that have steering wheels that come off(how symbolic!) with a slight tug and then tells us "get used to it" instead of actually trying to do something, oh wait, he DID do something, he appoints a commission to find out if there's any fraud going on....
And then the EPA shuts down Shell after they spent 4 billion trying to get started. Easy to see where the fraud is, you bogus potus, can't go nowhere without the totus!
No, Georgie, it's not gas gripes, it's your Chairman who has shown he doesn't give a fig about anything except his own agenda. People in this country don't like being looked down on, especially when he says "ordinary folks" which leave him out(he's not ordinary, he's a narcissist), and those people are on to his game.
George, you really need to clean your nose off before you come on the air, or get the makeup people to match your skin to that dark color on your nose.
-Jon
After demonizing coal,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 7:26pm.
To the extent Obama said he will try to bankrupt any new coal plants, how are you going to charge your new electric car? Plus, when we all start using less gas, how are they going to raise revenue they currently make off of gas?
Fact is, this is Obama's plan to curb use. Any suggestion to the contrary is mistaken. These commies are anti energy, and are going to cripple the economy without a single piece of legislation being passed.
Whole new meaning
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 11:51pm.
It puts a whole new meaning to "living within your means" when you have to ask how the hell can you do that if we aren't able to DO anything. translation: Make Do with NOTHING.
When you look at the real big picture and finally figure out how the picture really looks, that's when you realize we have a federal government that is wildly out of control and is a danger to the people it's supposed to protect.
Why don't people understand this???? It's so very basic!
-Jon
It reinforces how much....
Submitted by notinstl on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:06pm.
...obama is a slave (did I say that) to ideaology...he will take the PR hit on gas prices to further drive down our access to oil to try and force "clean" energy on us....
Well, this is not the only
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:47pm.
Well, this is not the only thing Georgy boy is going to gripe about regarding Obama's little political weakness on gasoline prices. It's the GOP's exploitation of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Tmi_fpUHs&feature=related Hehehe
The libs should be happy...
Submitted by shooter on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 2:56pm.
...Obama said that under his energy plan, energy prices would "...necessarily skyrocket." While this gas price increase was not part of his plan, the effects are the same.
No one in the MSM or libs in public blinked when he said energy prices would "skyrocket" so why should they now since this is what he wanted all along?
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"An armed society is a polite society" -- Robert A. Heinlein
Ah yes, the utilities will
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 3:57pm.
Ah yes, the utilities will necessarily have to pass that cost on to consumers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4
"He even featured an angry
Submitted by goon on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 3:28pm.
"He even featured an angry motorist who complained, "Maybe President Obama could step down and let somebody else take over."
That is a great idea, Obumble should step down.
when does a news journalist act like one?
Submitted by Less1leg on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 6:01pm.
We are all aware of the origins of Curious George. But let's settle back in our chairs and really examine George's function once he joined the media.
From my point of view George should neither be liberal nor conservative. Every effort of his working network star roll should be to provide "fair coverage" as per story line he is paid well to read.
But that's not the case with Curious George. He sounds more like the Lead Party Election Handler during his run with Clinton. He is more in bed with Liberal Democrats than Hilliary Clinton is. His story a blatantly biased journalism in favour of liberals.
Yea, ya'll Americans...
Submitted by GregE on Mon, 04/25/2011 - 7:55pm.
.....need to zip the lips. King Obama's got this.