George Stephanopoulos Spins Wikileaks Release of Documents as 'Important Information for the Public to Have'
Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Monday offered a sympathetic take on the decision of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to release potentially damaging U.S. security documents. The ABC host wondered if it was "important information for the public to have."
Talking to Congressman Peter Hoekstra, Stephanopoulos read a quote to the Republican, repeating the words of Assange: "If citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what's going on behind the scenes." Stephanopoulos then emphasized, "He says he's performing a public service."
In contrast, CBS's Harry Smith also interviewed Hoekstra and appeared much more concerned about the impact on national security. The Early Show anchor referred to the massive leak as "stunning" and a "real potential time bomb." Smith followed up, "Is there anything in this...that is potentially catastrophic in terms of the damage it could do?"
Stephanopoulos, however, made the case for the WikiLeaks founder: "But [the documents] also show instances where governments are not cooperating with us. A release showing that for years we've been trying to get the Pakistanis to allow us to secure their nuclear material. And now we know they haven't done that. Isn't that important information for the public to have?"
Hoekstra aggressively disagreed with the argument being made by the GMA anchor, arguing, "These are functions that need to be done by government. They need to be done by Congress and the executive branch. You know, this guy really is putting into danger our foreign policy and perhaps the lives of certain Americans around the world."
A transcript of the November 29 segment, which aired at 7:06am EST, follows:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And for more now on the potential damage to U.S. security and what can do about it, congressman Pete Hoekstra. He is a Republican from Michigan, sits on the House Intelligence Committee. Thanks for joining us this morning, Congressman. I want to start up by reading you a little bit more of what Julian Assange, the head of WikiLeaks said this morning. He said, "The cables show the U.S. spying on its allies in the UN, turning a blind eyed to corruption and human rights abuse. If citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what's going on behind the scenes." He says he's performing a public service.
REP. PETER HOEKSTRA (R-MI, House Intelligence Committee): Well I couldn't- [coughs], excuse me. I couldn't disagree more. You know, it's not his duty or his responsibility to provide this public service to the American people. This is- These are functions that need to be done by government. They need to be done by Congress and the executive branch. You know, this guy really is putting into danger our foreign policy and perhaps the lives of certain Americans around the world. We'll have to see what else comes out. But those are the consequences of this.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Can you elaborate on that a little more? What is the greatest harm you see in this release?
HOEKSTRA: Well, I think the greatest harm was highlighted in your initial introduction to this piece. It is the loss of trust with the- that other governments will have in dealing with the United States of America. You know, what many of these leaks talk about, is they talk about the politics of getting to an agreement, whether it's moving Gitmo detainees, when it is, you know, a strategy for confronting terrorism. Sometimes, politics gets to be pretty ugly. These releases show the art of getting to an agreement and moving a policy forward.
STEPHANOPOULOS: They also show-
HOEKSTRA: These folks that we now deal with now may don't have the trust when they're dealing with the United States, what's done in secret will actually stay in secret.
STEPHANOPOULOS: That is a good point. But they also show instances where governments are not cooperating with us. A release showing that for years we've been trying to get the Pakistanis to allow us to secure their nuclear material. And now we know they haven't done that. Isn't that important information for the public to have?
HOEKSTRA: Well, I think it's important information. I'm not sure it needs to go in the public hand. I mean, bottom line, George, here is we want to work with the Pakistanis on proliferation, with the agreement and the disagreement that we have with our allies, putting them in the public spotlight is going to make it more difficult for us to get to the ultimate objective, which is to stop proliferation of nuclear weapons. Wikileaks is not providing a service. At the same time, I think we have to take a look at our own intel community and recognize this is a massive failure. This database should never have been created. Hundreds of thousands of people should not have been provided access to it. This is a colossal failure by our intel community, by our Department of Defense to keep classified information secret.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And I know you'll be holding hearings on that. Finally, before we go, Mr. Assange just said more documents are going to be dumped in the comes days and weeks. Can anything be done about that?
HOEKSTRA: Well, I'm sure that we can, you know, take a very aggressive approach on the internet. But the bottom line is he has the documents. He will get them out one way or another. I don't think there's any way that we can stop it from happening.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay, Congressman, thank you very much for your time this morning.
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Gosh, Georgie, so now it's
Submitted by Van Halen on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:29pm.
Gosh, Georgie, so now it's 'important for people to have' but was it important for people to have access to this stuff when Clinton and YOU were hanging around in the White House? Hmmm??
How important would it be for people to have access to private conversations between the DNC and it's operatives?
How important would it be for people to have access to emails in YOUR news organization, Georgie?
How importang would it be for people to have access to the emails that went back and forth and eventually exposed Climategate, hmmmm, Georgie?
Burglar King
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:35pm.
Sandy Burglar King(Berger if you don't know) would be envious of how these documents got lifted. After the way he tried it, good lord.....
-Jon
If any of this
Submitted by NDanielson on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:43pm.
damages 0bama's image, the liberals will cry for control of the internet until they get it. Get ready. Diplay of self-righteous indignation for being "forced" to do such a thing in 3...2...1...
It's already been done. They
Submitted by Thoreau on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:54pm.
It's already been done. They took over the DNS's of the planet this week.
George is just parroting the
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:46pm.
George is just parroting the same talking point as the NYT (emphasis mine):
The Times believes that the documents serve an important public interest, illuminating the goals, successes, compromises and frustrations of American diplomacy in a way that other accounts cannot match.
the Times believes....
We must all live by what the NYT believes.....because who better to decide what serves the public interest?
True Believers
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 7:11pm.
Yep, the altruistic NYTimes has done it in the public's interest.
I wonder if they would agree if an insider released all the Times' internal Emails and meeting minutes.
Now, THAT would be in the public's interest.
Hey be careful.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:01pm.
You're being critical of Pravda.
Wikileaks - and if George W Bush was still President?
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 1:49pm.
Scott.
Anyone notice that throughout this entire saga of the various Wikileaks episodes, that our national media - in print, on TV, etc. - can write and deliver these indepth and lengthy pieces, and conduct panel discussions with all of their experts, and seldom does the name of Obama or Biden come up?
I can only imagine if this would have occurred while Bush/Cheney were still in the WH.
For example, it might have played out this way:
STEPHANOPOULOS: Can you elaborate on that a little more? What is the greatest harm you see in this release?
TYPICAL LIBERAL GUEST: This administration has now been fully exposed as a pack of rouge neo-cons, acting in their own self interest. Bush and Cheney must be charged with crimes against humanity and potentially treasonous activities. They are destroying the world's vision of America.
I have noticed that none of my personal and typically voluminous liberal e-mailers, nor personal liberal friends, etc., have yet to mention any of it - zippo, niltch, natta. And of course, the radical leftwing sees all of this as Nobel Peace prize material.
(;~/ gary
Gary, you apparently have never known the absolute agony of
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:06pm.
waiting for a lip to heal. It's incapacitating.
Nice analogy BTW - 100% true.
Hey SickofLibs..
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:46pm.
Well, it's been a while, thankfully, but I've had my share of split lips. Just the same, to steal the best comment I've seen out there today (don't remember where) in response to this issue was, "it's going to take more than 12 stitches to fix this one."
(;~> gary
Steffy...
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 2:36pm.
Why aren't there some comprimising photos of him drag some place? He is such a flake.
Maybe they can arrange for Georgie to have a cell right next to
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 2:41pm.
...Julian Assange.
And no, I am not kidding.
These people are working to advance the cause of our enemy in a time of war - a war in which Americans (both in and out of uniform) are being killed.
As far as I am concerned, both of these idiots, and everyone like them, are enemies of America, and should be treated as such.
Go back and read what both the US and UK governments did in the days leading up to the Normandy invasion if they suspected even a hint of a leak concerning any part of Operation Overlord.
What the Hell has happened to this country?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Someone please tell George
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 2:48pm.
Someone please tell George that his hero BHO doesn't see it that way
“The recent irresponsible disclosure by WikiLeaks has resulted in significant damage to our national security,” wrote director of the Office of Management and Budget Jack Lew, in a memo posted this morning at the OMB website. “Any failure by agencies to safeguard classified information pursuant to relevant laws… is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.”
What do you think, George? Maybe you should give him a call and pitch your "public service" theory to him...see if he buys it.
That's because BHO is "right of center"
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 7:15pm.
According to the Left, Obama has been coerced by the Dark Side of the Force.
I overheard some "Democratic strategist" on a Fox News program over the weekend explain how Minority Leader Pelosi -- one of the "most effective Speakers in history," according to the strategist -- will keep the President from drifting from his "right of center" position to the "Far Right." I kid you not.
Take me to your leader?
Submitted by Tomorama on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 2:47pm.
I have been wondering the same Gary, there is damaging stuff coming out and somehow this administration get's NO scrutiny?
Bush would have been given the same favored status I am sure.
I simply ask and am totally serious, why is this GUY STILL ALIVE after doing this THREE TIMES?
Would a leader not "take him out" quietly?
ooops, my bad, we don't have a leader.
Tomorama.. how about with a ..
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:58pm.
.. Predator drone strike?
(;`> gary
I guess Adrian
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:14pm.
Assanger calls it "WikiLeaks" because he doesn't like the sound of "WikiTreason".
Both he and his source(s) should be put in front of a firing squad as soon as a military tribunal will allow.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Destructive?
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:24pm.
While I am against these releases on general principal, I haven't heard or read anything that I didn't already know, suspect, or hear from Glenn Beck (of whom I am not what one would refer to as a "fan")
The public's right to know
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:41pm.
It's a trade-off. Think of a poker game. Do we, as Americans, have a right to see what cards our government is playing with? Sure. But if the only way we can see those cards is to expose them to everyone else, then we're willing to accept secrecy in exchange for our "right" to know..
It's an insane myth that the American public wants to see every secret exposed. No. We don't. We recognize that there's a strategically important value in not allowing everyone else to see everything that our government is doing ... while we're haggling with the rest of the world.
The simplistic explanation that "the public has the right to know" is just a slogan instead of a justification. It's no-depth thinking. And rather than watching a bunch of dimwit Justice Department lawyers scuffing their shoes and wondering about the public's right to know, go find that creep Assange and make his existence unhappy.
I think at this point in
Submitted by jkwtrading on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:58pm.
I think at this point in hsitory, let those chips fall and if they fall into a situation condemning the US government..so be it.
Lets' get a GOOD look at the US Feds.
I think at this point in
Submitted by jkwtrading on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 4:00pm.
I think at this point in history, let those chips fall and if they fall into a situation condemning the US government..so be it.
Lets' get a GOOD look at the US Feds.
Georgie Boy needs to STFU Too!
Submitted by Yeti on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:51pm.
Hey Georgie,
If someone dies because of this release on "information for the public to have". YOU ARE GUILTY OF MURDER! I despise "people" like you. You think you are so sophisticated, but YOU ARE A COWARD!
Shoot
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 8:20pm.
Sorry folks
Crime vs Statistic
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 8:55pm.
Revealing one "secret" is a crime, (CIA identity of V. Plame). Leaking hundreds of thousands of secrets is a statistic.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Perhaps, but
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:09pm.
keep in mind that no one has been convicted of the "crime" of outing a well-known, in D.C. cocktail circuits, a member of the CIA. Libby was convicted of lying to the government, Armitage was never charged, and he's the one who "leaked" her ID. Sean Penn to the contrary, no crime was committed, as Ms Plame was, by the time her name was out in public, not a "covert operative" of any clandestine service.
"Crime"
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:32pm.
I guess I should have put the word "crime" in scare quotes as well. Of course no actual crime was committed and the "outage" of Ms. Plame was as inconsiquential as a "secret" outing can get. My point was, of course, centered on the amount of media coverage concerning the Valerie Plame instance and how they hyped it as a crime worthy of Watergate in an effort to get to VP Cheney.
The media is now focussing on Wikileaks, but more in a CYA mode of deflecting any blame from the Obama administration.
(Hope I got enough scare quotes in there this time!)
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
So let's see. But this mindless theory, you must agree
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:09pm.
Hitler killing one Jew was murder. But Hitler killing millions. Now that's just a statistics, right?
This is a dumb notion to introduce quantity of crimes as some form of absolution.
You, of course, are correct.
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 11:34pm.
That is precisely why I phrased my comment that way, by slightly altering Uncle Joe Stalin's famous quote to U.S. Ambasador Avrill Harriman that, "The death of one man is a tradegy, the death of millions is a statistic".*
Sometimes you need to buy a program to know the players. It was a dumb notion to introduce quantity of crimes as absolution back in the World War Two era and it's still dumb today. Yet the MSM treats the multitude of real secrets relased by Assage in a much less serious way then the release of one supposed secret in the Valeri Plame kerflufle. Go figure.
* And I would be remiss in not pointing out that the quote attribued to Stalin is indeed only attributed and not 100% verifiable.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Nobody else?
Submitted by Cowboy on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 2:24am.
I see that WikiLeaks NEVER publishes leaks from anyone but the US...
Nobody else has secrets? Nobody else does or says anything ugly? Nobody is out to 'get' the US? LOL!
Get real...
Why is this guy still walking around?