George Stephanopoulos Chides Michele Bachmann: Why Is It 'Okay' to Extend Tax Cuts?
For the second time in two days, Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Tuesday lobbied for tax increases, wondering why it's "okay" for the "wealthiest Americans" to continue to receive a tax cut.
The GMA host pushed Congresswoman Michele Bachmann to accept a deal in exchange for extending the Bush tax cuts. After the conservative leader expressed skepticism about extending unemployment benefits, Stephanopoulos complained, "But, why is it okay for the wealthiest Americans, earning over $250,000 a year– And remember, the President has called for extending all tax cuts for those under $250,000."
He continued, worrying about why it's acceptable for the wealthy to get "tax cuts extended, but for people who are out of a job and needing unemployment benefits not to have their benefits extended?"
Stephanopoulos set up the offer by playing negotiator. He coaxed Bachmann, "Some Democrats are now saying they might be able to go along with [extending the tax cuts] as well, if it's tied to extension of the unemployment benefits that run out for millions of Americans on November 30th. Is that a deal you can support?"
On Monday, Stephanopoulos pressed Democrat Erskine Bowles, the co-chair of a debt commission about extending the tax cuts: "By extending them, that's going to cost about $4 trillion...Couldn't some of this be avoided by keeping the tax rates where they are? I mean, by letting them go back to where they were in 1998 when you were White House chief of staff?"
More examples of Stephanopoulos' arguing for tax increases can be found in the MRC's Profile in Bias.
A transcript of the November 16 segment, which aired at 7:16am EST, follows:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And for more on this, we're now joined the leader of the Tea Party caucus in the House, Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota. Good morning, congresswoman.
MICHELE BACHMANN: Good morning, George.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And we saw there, Republican leader Mitch McConnell says he's going to back the ban on earmarks. Are you convinced this is going to stick, even if congressional Democrats don't go along?
BACHMANN: You know, I think it's a very good sign. And if Mitch McConnell has gone to the microphone and said that, I think that he means it and we should take him at his word. This is all very good for the American people.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You know, you're the leader of the Tea Party caucus in the House. But you lost out on your bid to officially join the House Republican leadership. Does that give you a sense that there's a limit on Tea Party influence in the House?
BACHMANN: You know, I don't think so, George. I think that the leadership has sent a very strong signal that they have listened. And they woke up. And they want to do right by the American people. And the main thing here is that they want to stick to fiscal sanity. And they want to make sure that they aren't spending more money than what the government is taking in. And that's a good first step, I think, moving forward.
STEPHANOPOULOS: The biggest issue in this lame duck session of Congress is going to be whether or not to extend those tax cuts first passed under President Bush. You signaled that you're willing to accept a compromise. That you would be willing to have a temporary extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy, even though you prefer that it be permanent. Some Democrats are now saying they might be able to go along with that, as well, if it's tied to extension of the unemployment benefits that run out for millions of Americans on November 30th. Is that a deal you can support?
BACHMANN: Well, remember what this really is is a massive tax increase. It's President Obama's massive tax increase. That's what he is wanting going forward. None of us on the Republican side believe that anyone's taxes should go up. So, it's important to characterize it for what it is. It is a massive tax increase one second after midnight on January 1st of 2011. And it will lead to tremendous job losses going forward. As far as a compromise goes, I want to get the tax, the tax, current tax policy extended as far into the future as we possibly can. If we can only get it extended for two years, that's great. But I don't think the American people should have to pay for that by having to have some new spending tied to that. If that's the case, I don't think you're going to see the Republicans go along with it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But, why is it okay for the wealthiest Americans, earning over $250,000 a year– And remember, the President has called for extending all tax cuts for those under $250,000– for them to get tax cuts extended but for people who are out of a job and needing unemployment benefits not to have their benefits extended?
BACHMANN: Well, remember again what this is. It's a massive tax increase. And it's on the people who are the job creators. And people want to think these are millionaires, sitting in leather chairs, lighting their cigars with $100 bills. That's not what we're talking about. These are people who are carpet layers that maybe employ two or three other guys. Or a plumber, maybe himself and his brother. And it's $250,000 in gross sales for their business. They're the ones that are looking at mass tax increases. So, for instance, in Minnesota, in my district, it would mean 2,000 jobs lost, if we don't extend the current tax policy. That's going to hurt more people than anything, if we can't have job creation. And this is a job-killer, if we raise taxes on the job creators.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay. Representative Bachmann, thanks very much for your time.
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Hey Bonehead George
Submitted by averageschmoe on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 12:58pm.
Why is it fair that someone making $249,000.00 will continue to get a tax cut while a person making $251,000.00 (only $2,0000.00) more will get a tax increase?
Rates, not cuts
Submitted by StarAZ on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 4:28pm.
They WERE a cut, but now "tax rates" would be more accurate. But who needs accuracy when you can have damaging propaganda.
George is the welthy
Submitted by wingnut55 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:01pm.
If George is so ready for the rich to pay more in taxes, why doesn't he just not take all his deductions this year and pay more himself to help the President out? Why not get all his friends to do the same? Leave us tax payers out of it.
Ok Georgie boy let me try to splain it to you.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:03pm.
The guy that cuts you a check every week, is one of the people that could see the big tax increase. What do you think will happen next time you are expecting a raise? How about the boss will consider the tax increase and your pay raise will decrease to offset the added overhead.
Translation: If your boss takes a beating, he'll share the joy with you. Can you get your dumb ass mind around this?
Right Wing Myth:
Submitted by JamPony on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:29pm.
"Only rich people create jobs."
I really don't understand how the Dems let the Right get away with this blatant fallacy.
Regarding taxes: Never has so much been made of so little. The Right is like the secret service of the rich. Most of you aren't rich but you feel like it is your duty to take a bullet for them.
Why?
Please explain...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:38pm.
How a poor person can create a job? The logistics are lost on me.
When you can answer that question, (or when you fail to answer that question), you'll know the answer to your question.
The right doesn't "take bullets" for anyone. The right believes in freedom from dependance from government. The right believes in the equality of potential, not the equality of outcomes.
Now run along, little troll.
[Hey, that's not a bad signature! I think I'll keep that one.! :}
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Supply and Demand
Submitted by JamPony on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 10:40pm.
Poor people have been creating jobs since the beginning of time.
Remember when everyone was a "small business person" starting companies in their garages?
And if the internet age hasn't proven that poor people can start jobs then I really must have mis-read history.
Think about it.
All you need today in order to create something is an internet account ($30 a month) a laptop ($600) an idea (priceless) and a cell phone ($40 a month).
Or you could get a grill ($500) and some pork ($2 a pound) and start a BBQ.
Or you could get a lawn mower ($300) an edger ($100) a weed eater ($100) and a broom ($20) and start a lawn service. Oh and you need a truck ($2500) I just bought a 2002 Ford F-250 for $2600.
You all get the picture: cleaning service, painting service, pressure washer service, etc., etc.
Your argument was only rich
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:31pm.
Your argument was only rich people and no one has made that statement. By and large it is the rich man who hires people who do not have the gumption ot capital to start a business. People want a steady income.
JamPony---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 11/17/2010 - 12:23am.
"Poor people have been creating jobs since the beginning of time."
No they haven't.
People were busy trying to survive, not busy creating jobs, for well past the beginning of time.
Speaking of beginning, your lead in sentence sounds like the beginning of a bad Bulwer-Lytton novel. FYI, he never wrote a good one.
"Remember when everyone was a "small business person" starting companies in their garages?"
No.
And neither do you.
"Think about it."
Someone should; you obviously haven't; for instance, your last sentence:
"You all get the picture: cleaning service, painting service, pressure washer service, etc., etc."
If that is the best you can do in support of your now famous line that the rich don't create jobs, you might want to mount up on your one-trick pony and jam on outta here.
There are posters on this site who will eat you alive, digest your bones, and not even pause to eruct before moving on off to bitch slap the next simple-minded liberal or troll who enters these august threads with pointless lib talking points.
MD
Hit and run troll
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 11/17/2010 - 6:23am.
You could do all those things, but who will hire you?
And just starting that business doesn't create jobs. Your business has to expand, and eventually it will break 250 grand a year. That's about the time that person starts hiring people, but oops now he can't because all his extra income is being slurped up by the gov. Instead of being reinvested in his cute little ....service.
"Lib free or die"
We Are The 53%
Hahahahaha
Submitted by donabernathy on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:39pm.
1940's........ Hey I'm not Jewish why do I care about Auschwitz
JamPony, what are you? Like
Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:47pm.
JamPony, what are you? Like 12? Tell me little one, when was the last time you saw a poor person create a job? When was the first time? If your right, the homeless would all be business owners, with employees!
If you cannot understand the simple things now, at least wait untill you graduate the 6th grade to try to have a conversation with adults.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
no myth
Submitted by Parkerz on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:48pm.
When was the last time you or any of your friends were hired by a poor person to work in their business?
Do you understand what is involved in creating a business?
Jam
Submitted by ForeverOnTheRight on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:48pm.
Cut the Neo-Marxist drivel. Libs like you seem to hate the rich and the big "evil" corporations, it's just Marxist philosophy in a different package. You have fallen for this crap, it's not evil to be rich. This idea of yours that we think, "Only the rich create jobs" is a lie. When we ALL are taxed less, we are able to spend more, and that creates jobs when we buy goods. We pay taxes on what we buy so tax revenues are generated from what we buy. Tax us more and we have less to spend on goods, employers have less money to hire people, and inefficient government just gets bigger and fatter. But I am guessing you just will refuse to understand this simple logic. You want big government to tax to to death, take your liberties and tell you how to live your life.
Ok Moron explain.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:25pm.
If I raise taxes on your employer, will he give you the same raises he would have or to offset his increased cost of doing business he lowers your increases?
What is so difficult for your little mind to get a handle on.
Where's the fallacy here?
Ummm, I wonder why all these commies think they have a better idea. Remember what happened to USSR? Did the model work for them. Here's a better idea, MOVE THERE!
They don't always think they
Submitted by Smartypants on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:58pm.
They don't always think they have a better idea; they are often just ranting with emotional arguments, like our fair poster above. This person's questions why we are going to bat for rich people, because (s)he views the world through envious eyes; it's pure class warfare nonsense. You can take the time to explain econ 101 to this person, but I guarantee he doesn't want to hear it. If it's not based on emotion, it's not going to fly. I've learned enough to understand you are not going to change this kind of mind; you can only hope he or she grows up one day and sees things a little more clearly.
Here's another blatant fallacy...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:43pm.
...the dems let the right get away with:
"Digging a deeper hole doesn't get you out of it"...
moron.
Oh MM! Dems always carry an
Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:02pm.
Oh MM! Dems always carry an extra shovel! And drills for drilling the holes for the explosives. Just to make it easier to get out of the hole.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
what Dems carry
Submitted by Parkerz on Wed, 11/17/2010 - 1:43pm.
And just in case they come across one of those shovel ready projects.
Why?
Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:11pm.
"Most of you aren't rich but you feel like it is your duty to take a bullet for them."
It's called having integrity, something you and other liberals wouldn't know about.
Expect smaller checks in Jan anyway
Submitted by StarAZ on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 4:30pm.
Even if the extension passed now, there would be smaller checks in Jan until the new tables could be distributed. So man up, everyone! The Dems had a decade to do this, by the way.
Only for those who are wage
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 11:16pm.
Only for those who are wage slaves. For those like me who depend on their own sweat it may be different. Alternatively you can always fill out a W2 saying you want less taken out. In 1980 I was hired at Fluor and since it was October and I had not worked anywhere I told then to take nothing out. Of course it worked like a charm but bit me on the butt the next year when I did not start taking taxes out until June and they laid me off in October 1981.
Hey, George . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:28pm.
. . . Why is it okay to exempt 111 corporations and labor unions from compliance with our new "cost-saving" health care act, while others have to pay?
To paraphrase one of your fellow Clintonistas: "It's the economy, stupid!"
You can't cure a heroin addict by him giving more and more dope.
STOP SPENDING $$$ WE DON"T HAVE IS THE WAY TO START.
My solution is, raise taxes
Submitted by bassndude on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:05pm.
My solution is, raise taxes on ALL so called "news" anchors on CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and their staffs by, oh, say...50%. Now they have their tax increase they want and everyone is happy.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Shut up George!
Submitted by SouthJersey1953 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:07pm.
-enough said.
When will SOMEBODY in the media...
Submitted by daddysyk on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:23pm.
once and for all end the lie that tax cuts cost money!! Every major tax rate cut in recent history (JFK, Reagan, Bush43) INCREASED revenue! That is a fact! Why does anyone let these idiots keep getting away with the premise that tax cuts are going to cost trillions of dollars! Its the same attitude that BO has toward our money - it belongs to the government and they will decide how much of it you get to keep. It is not about facts - it is about fairness to these people who still hold on to the idiotic belief that it is government's role to redistribute wealth. Although Michelle's answer was decent. We can no longer remain stuck on stupid.
Hey, these same people
Submitted by Smartypants on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:06pm.
Hey, these same people managed to convince a lot of Americans that Katrina was solely Bush's fault, as if he personally sabotaged those levees in N.O. and then drove that hurricane straight for the city. They also convinced many that Bush stole the 2000 election and the 2004 one for that matter. They've convinced the country that Bush was the only one who said Saddam Hussein had WMDs and that Bush alone decided to go to war in Iraq. They then convinced us that Barack Obama's questionable background did not matter and that anyone who differs from B.O. must have racist tendencies. They ignored Obama when he called his own grandmother a "typical white person," but ran a Republican out of office for using the little known term macaca.
If you're waiting for the "mainstream" media to declare that tax cuts can actually increase revenue to the Treasury, I'm afraid you are going to be very disappointed.
Smartypants,
Submitted by daddysyk on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 4:09pm.
you just earned your screen name. Well said.
Why is it OK and patriotic to increase taxes...
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:33pm.
...but spending cuts are not considered? Hmmmm, George?
People who think like George are really disgusting.
When do we storm ABC
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:35pm.
The problem is in those skyscrapers in New York. They need to be called out to carpet today. Enough BS. This is NOT free speech.
I want my first amendment back.
Stephanopoulos should be investigated. Harry the Hack Smith. Couric. The whole cabal.
Response: Why is it "OK" to treat "the wealthiest" Americans...
Submitted by krendler on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 1:55pm.
The appropriate response: Why is it "OK" to treat "the wealthiest" Americans differently? Did they do something wrong for which they should be punished? Are they inherently bad?
Or is it, as Obama puts it, "At some point, you've made enough money" (and we'll be taking the rest and spreading it as we see fit).
Again, don't treat these meetings as interviews with actual journalists. They're not. They should be viewed as debates with cabinet members in the Obama admin and there should be a flow of questions in BOTH DIRECTIONS.
Some economic truths: "tax
Submitted by robert108 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:39pm.
Some economic truths: "tax cuts" are reductions in the rate of taxation, not payouts from the Treasury. What we are discussing are the current tax rates, not "tax cuts" in any meaning of the word. Unemployment benefits are welfare, while lower tax rates are not welfare.
Get his face on those billboards pronto!
Submitted by gwalt on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 2:59pm.
Instead of using logos of ABC, use Stepphies mug as the case against biased journolism. We need to call these perps out individually as they target us individually. If they love Alinsky so much, let's use it on them!"A lot of briefing for a 2 hr. special with Dan Rather. Saw the show & wonder why we bothered". Ronald Reagan
Tax cuts don't cost
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 3:29pm.
anything! That's the whole point of the TEA party: it's our money, not the government's. A tax cut does NOT cost the government money, it saves the taxpayers money. ANY tax costs the taxpayers; a cut in the rate costs each individual less than before the cut. The federal government needs to stop using baseline budgeting practices, which use an annual estimate of revenues as the "baseline" for the budget--essentially, they assume the baseline amount belongs the government, and any decrease in that "costs" them. This is wholly fallacious, and the primary reason we have such a gross budgetary mess."Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Put up or shut up.
Submitted by Clutch1956 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 4:15pm.
I wish someone would ask one of these overpaid talking heads how much should the average citizen pay in taxes. Whatever answer they give, the response should be "Well, since it is well known that you celebrities make orders of magnitude more money than the average citizen, you should be willing to be taxed at least 50% MORE than them, so why don't you pledge RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, in front of all of our viewers that you will voluntarily and willing pay at least 50% more on all of your income to the IRS. Lead by example."
Or simply "Put up or shut up. Then mind your own business."
I wish someone would ask one
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 11/17/2010 - 6:59am.
I wish someone would ask one of these overpaid talking heads how much should the average citizen pay in taxesI don't know what their answer would be to that, but I do know if you ask them how much the "rich" (and that't never them, no matter how much they earn) should pay, the answer is always "More."
I hope the do not extend the
Submitted by pwoz on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 5:06pm.
I hope the do not extend the tax cuts on 250k+/y people. Do you know why? Those 250k+/y will simply look for the Obama bumper stickers in their parking lots and cut their losses accordingly.
Unemployment in America
Submitted by Retired Geek on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 5:17pm.
Want to see the Unemployment situation in the United States that is being hidden by the Barack Obama Administration and the MSM?
Just 36 seconds is all it will take.
http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2010/11/geography-of-recession-by-latoya....
The Economic Future is looking Bleaker with each passing Day in the United States.
Lowest Earners will have 50% Tax Increase
Submitted by Retired Geek on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 5:19pm.
Did You Know?
When the 'Hated and Despised' Bush tax cuts are allowed to Expire, the lowest Earners in America will have a 50% Income Tax increase from 10% to 15%.
Barack Obama 'Promised to NOT raise taxes on these low income workers, but he will NOT do ANYTHING to stop their Income Taxes from being raised.
Barack Obama and Liberal Progressives have fine tuned the Art of Propaganda (lying).
Barack Obama is a Pathological Liar and his words cannot be trusted.
Watch Barack Obama tell 7 lies to the American People in under two minutes.
See for yourself:
http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2010/11/barack-obama-tells-7-lies-in-unde...
Dumb question, Stephy
Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 9:18pm.
"STEPHANOPOULOS: But, why is it okay for the wealthiest Americans, earning over $250,000 a year– And remember, the President has called for extending all tax cuts for those under $250,000– for them to get tax cuts extended but for people who are out of a job and needing unemployment benefits not to have their benefits extended?"
You mean besides the most obvious reason?