ABC's Sam Donaldson appeared on Thursday's Good Morning America to talk about the developing Mark Sanford scandal and loudly assert that it's hard to forgive Bible-thumping Republicans for their sexual transgressions. He began by deriding, "The problem Republicans have, so many of them are sanctimonious." [audio available here]
The longtime contributor continued his attack on members of the GOP who get caught up in sex scandals: "They thump the Bible. They condemn everyone else, and when they- human- they don’t have much credit in the bank for forgiveness."
Donaldson, who appeared with fellow ABC contributor Cokie Roberts, did make an interesting point about Good Morning America's saturation coverage of the revelation of the South Carolina governor's affair with an Argentinean woman. Apparently speaking of the media, he said that "we all seem to be enjoying this." Donaldson added, "This is the fourth segment on Good Morning America and I'm not criticizing you because it's the story of the day." Actually, GMA devoted six full reports and one anchor brief to the scandal.
A transcript of the June 25 segment, which aired at 7:41am, follows:
ROBIN ROBERTS: And are these public confessions enough to save a marriage and/or a political career? Well, joining us to talk about that from Washington, ABC's Cokie Roberts and Sam Donaldson. Great to see you both this morning. David's piece, you saw, no shortage of politicians from both sides of the aisle, making these public apologies, but George Stephanopoulos was saying earlier, Sam, that it was different yesterday. There was something different about the governor's press conference yesterday. Do you agree?
SAM DONALDSON: I agree. Sanford chose the Reverend Jimmy Swaggart way of apologizing. The Reverend Swaggart was caught years ago, lamentations, tears, throwing his arms around. I think it's best to use the John Ensign way. You come out. You have a brief statement, business-like. You admit you're the scum of the earth. You apologize to your wife and everyone, you ask for redemption and forgiveness. You leave. You take no questions and give no further interviews.
ROBIN ROBERTS: Cokie, I hear you-
COKIE ROBERTS: I think that the minute- It doesn't much matter. Mark Sanford's press conference was bizarre, to put it mildly. But the E-mails that have been released will just sink him. You know, even Shakespeare's love sonnets weren't so great. And Mark Sanford's love notes and his e-mails are just laughable. You know, I'm not going to quote them because I'd be embarrassed. But the fact is, he just is a laughing stock today.
ROBIN ROBERTS: He did go on and on, as Sam said, and he took questions, and all that. Is it enough to save his career?
COKIE ROBERTS: He did.
DONALDSON: No. He's a cooked goose. I mean, there are calls for his resignation. I don't know if he's going to resign or not. But the fact that he's done this, and he's done it in the way he's done it, I don't see how he could run for President. People were touting him. You know, there’s another way, Robin, if you're lucky enough. Client number nine, Eliot Spitzer, you showed him. Once that happened. And David Paterson became Governor of New York, he immediately held a news conference to announce he’d had a number of affairs No one paid any attention. We were all concentrating on Eliot Spitzer.
COKIE ROBERTS: At least, Robin, though, we did not have the sight of Mrs. Sanford standing behind him. You know, that's the thing that always kills me, those long-suffering, political wives. Always wearing pearls, always. Standing behind their men. And often saving their political careers. This time, Mrs. Sanford basically said, "I asked him to leave."
ROBIN ROBERTS: Yeah. She did. She did release a statement. She was not with him yesterday at the press conference. She released a statement saying, that they had separated two weeks ago. And part of the statement said, quote, "I felt it was important to look my sons in the eyes and maintain my dignity." But she went on to say that she believes that her husband has earned a chance to resurrect their marriage. So- difficult. We're talking about someone's marriage. We're talking about someone's career. And she was very involved in his career, as a campaign manager, as well, Cokie.
COKIE ROBERTS: Absolutely. Absolutely.
DONALDSON: If they can save their marriage, that's great. That's an individual thing. But saving his political career, I think that's just not going to happen. There's another thing, Robin and Cokie, we all seem to be enjoying this. No, no, we can't admit that. But you have- this is the fourth segment on Good Morning America" and I'm not criticizing you because it's the story of the day.
COKIE ROBERTS: Of course, the part that I'm enjoying, Sam, is the fact that it just shows how hopeless men are. I mean, it is just-
DONALDSON: Aww, Cokie.
COKIE ROBERTS: -pathetic. All of those incidents you cited, you noticed, were not about women.
DONALDSON: Well, you notice that we men have more testosterone, I suppose, than you do. And I think Republicans and Democrats have it equally. The problem Republicans have, so many of them are sanctimonious. They thump the Bible. They condemn everyone else, and when they- human- they don’t have much credit in the bank for forgiveness.
ROBIN ROBERTS: You both are loaded for bear this morning. I’m telling you what. A final question. This has happened repeatedly. And it has happened with both Democrats and Republicans. But it seems that Democrats have had a harder time holding on to their jobs, once this happens. Why do you think that is?
DONALDSON: I know the past. And the past, with Wilbur Mills, Fanne Foxe, the Argentinean stripper in the Tidal Basin, Wayne Hays, an Ohio congressman, Democrat. His secretary says "I can't type. And I can't take short hand. But my services to the congressman are of a different nature." So, I think it's equal.
COKIE ROBERTS: I think it's the individual case of what happens. And Democrats, lately, have had more of a problem. But, you know, Senator Ensign has not run again. So, we don't know what's going to happen with him. Governor Sanford was already in political trouble before he got to this point. And now, he's going to be in even – well, he's over. So, I think it's individual.
ROBIN ROBERTS: Always a joy, Sam and Cokie, to talk to you both. Especially together. You all have a great day. Thanks so much for joining us.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.
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Well, he does have a point
June 25, 2009 - 15:10 ET by ArcherBNo one likes a hypocrite. You can't go out there and campaign on your family and religion and then get caught banging the girl from Impanema. It's possible to even get away with holding a gay prostitution ring from your apartment, for example, when you electorate knew you were gay when they elected you.
These guys need to be thrown out of the party when they are caught doing crap like this, and they usually are. Of course, Democrats are not. Unfortunately, this runs over into other misdeeds. For example, Tom Delay (R) lost his job just for being indicted, even though he was later found to be innocent. William Jefferson (D) still has a job and even sits on a few committees after $10,000 in bribe money was found in his freezer.
"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."
--Ernesto "Che" Guevara
Make that $90,000. Who
June 25, 2009 - 17:18 ET by ckc1227Make that $90,000. Who knows where the other $10,000 of the $100,000 bribe money went.
REMOTELY CONNECTED BUT
June 25, 2009 - 22:12 ET by reelman46MJ’s DEMISE JUNE 2009
I don’t get it…MJ sells 750 MILLION albums but “has so many demons” he dies at 50…
Elvis did not even last that long…are the talent and demon genes attached as a pair?
Yet another testimony for the money + fame = happiness…a lesson for all teens.
Of course, neither had much for Church attendance or basic moral behavior….
sooo maybe I do get it…that contentment, that inner peace…never was there it seems…a pity.
What is that old saying? “Life without discipline means death without dignity”…
both losses were bummers for me because of that aspect.
Well, they will live as long as there is music…
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
r46....Your post is mucic to my ears...
June 25, 2009 - 22:17 ET by bigtimerI couldn't help but think of Elvis today either.
Now that was a huge loss of talent to me...he was the King to me.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Sam, Sam, Sam
June 25, 2009 - 15:16 ET by iveseenitallSo, Sam. I guess no one has the right to condemn any action as wrong, lest he/she be judged by you when he does wrong. It is not that a person does wrong, Sam. We are all flawed. But the "liberal" point of view is that no one has a right to "judge" anyone or any action. Ergo, the moral mess we are in as a nation. Futhermore, it is the height of hypocrisy to claim you are non-judgmental, when all you do is "judge" anyone with whom you disagree. Illogical!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Sure, you can condemn, but
June 25, 2009 - 15:36 ET by balboaSure, you can condemn, but you know the saying about people in glass houses? I think that's where he's coming from.
The "liberal" argument, Bal
June 25, 2009 - 17:04 ET by iveseenitallI've heard the "liberal" argument a thousand times. It goes something like this: "You mean to tell me that YOU never cheated on a test." " You mean to tell me that YOU never..." The implication is clear--you have no right to "judge" anything or anyone. Moreover, you have no business standing for right. It's modern relativism, pure and simple. Problem is, it's the moral equivalence which is bringing all of us down.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
ive, I tend to look
June 25, 2009 - 17:33 ET by balboaive, I tend to look unfavorably upon a politician who talks about family values and then is exposed for having an affair. His opinion really doesn't hold any water with me. Sanford and his "I'm a bottom line kind of guy" line and "I'm just gonna let the chips fall where they may." Really? Did he let the chips fall where they may when he was covering up his affair? Was that the bottom line?
If you are faithful, try to be a good parent, and espouse family values, then I'm probably going to put more stock in what you have to say.
Agree,Bal
June 25, 2009 - 18:01 ET by iveseenitallWow! I agree with you, Bal. Futhermore, I am sick and tired of all our current politicians, liberal or conservative. Believe it or not, for the first time in my long life, I have absolutely no trust in most of them. They disgust me. That's why I support term limits.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Balboa, Wow! well,
June 25, 2009 - 18:24 ET by LiberalliesBalboa,
Wow! well, hmmmm....hell has frozen over because I agree with you!!!
I am sick and tired of politicians claiming to be holier than thou and they are leading a life of disgusting sin. If you want to lead and live such a life, so be it, God will judge you with all His might and will, but don't go to the front of the line and yell out of your lungs "FAMILY VALUES!".
Now that being said, I am glad that we can hold our Republican and Conservative politicians to moral and ethical standards. I am glad that when a Republican or Conservative politicians is found out to be a dirty, digusting, pathetic scroundel who is cheating on his wife, we can say, THAT IS WRONG!
Look at how the media AND the Democrats have dealt with this scandal and the John Edwards scandal...can we say...DOUBLE STANDARDS?! YES WE CAN!
Democrat voters and the Democrat party do not hold their politicians to any type of moral or ethical standards. That is why when someone from the Democrat party is cut with his pants down, the media and the Democrat party talk about the ability of that politician to be able to come back to politics. This is why you have countless of Democrat politicians who are election after election re-elected despite their moral and ethical problems. Democrat voters and the Democrat party have no moral standards and no moral values.
Thus, despite Sanford, I rather belong to the Republican party that speaks about family values and we hold our politicians accountable to those values, morals and ethics.
Liberals and Democrat do not hold their politicians to any type of values, moral or ethics. What is worst cheating on your wife or murdering your girlfriend? What is worst cheating on yoru wife or running a prostitute ring out of your house? Republican cheaters are not re-elected into political office by Republican voters, Kennedy and Barney Frank have been re-elected countless of times despite their amoral behavior.
Democrats and Liberals speak about not judging anyone and not holding anyone to any type of morals or ethics. Moral Relativism.
Republicans and Conservatives speak about morals, ethics, family values and we hold our politicians to these high standards. Sanford is done for, his political career in the Republican party is done. No future for him.
Kennedy, Edwards, Barney Frank, etc ALL have great political futures in the Democrat party despite their repeated amoral behavior.
I say to every Democrat and Liberal that is rejoicing over this or talking about the Republican Glass House...have you seen YOUR HOUSE made out of glass?!
Hi futbol
June 25, 2009 - 23:52 ET by shawn228Its been a long time my friend, hope all is well.
"Kennedy, Edwards, Barney Frank, etc ALL have great political futures in
the Democrat party despite their repeated amoral behavior."
I understand Rudy Guiliani, John McCain and Newt Gingrich all have had successful political careers as well.
He had my vote
→ Good one Shawn
June 26, 2009 - 00:02 ET by Cool ArrowPerfect analysis if you believe a dead secretary, an unclaimed love child, and a running a house of prostitution are equivalent to infidelity.
In a liberal's world, I guess they are, but which would your wife more likely forgive you of?
We will Barry you! - Russian Prophecy
You have a point CA
June 26, 2009 - 00:09 ET by shawn228The sin by the dems is far worse I agree, I am just saying that a person like Newt might be a strong candidate for President and he was throwing stones at Clinton while having an affair himself and he is a very powerful conservative indeed.
He had my vote
→ Shawn
June 26, 2009 - 00:14 ET by Cool ArrowYou're too young to remember, but liberals tried to smear Reagan during his Presidential campaign because he had divorced Jane Wyman in 1952.
We will Barry you! - Russian Prophecy
Liberals will smear anyone to get elected CA
June 26, 2009 - 00:20 ET by shawn228I realize that. I somtimes might joke around about a lib, but I know full well what tactics the far left uses.
My point is that Republicans forgive politicians that fall from grace if it gives them a chance to win elections. Its politics and understandable, but Republicans imo are no better than their Democrat counterpoints for hypocrisy.
He had my vote
→ Tru dat, Shawn
June 26, 2009 - 00:31 ET by Cool ArrowRepublicans should have brought the Larry Sinclair subject up at least a couple of times.
There was an alleged participant (Larry Sinclair), making an outright allegation of Obama's marital infidelity with him. That's a heckuva lot more convincing than a rumor of a maybe, possibly, John McCain was a little too close to a campaign staffer.
We will Barry you! - Russian Prophecy
From what I understand
June 26, 2009 - 00:35 ET by shawn228....Didn't McCAin leave a sick and ailing wife for his current wife?
He had my vote
→ As did Gingrich
June 26, 2009 - 00:42 ET by Cool ArrowYes, he did.
And Barack Obama kicked a girl he claimed he loved to the curb because she was white.
But he gets the last laugh since he has this waiting for him every evening after work.
HUBBA HUBBA!
We will Barry you! - Russian Prophecy
Shawn, wake up! Clinton
June 26, 2009 - 00:21 ET by NL207Shawn, wake up! Clinton wasn't in trouble for having an affair. He did not get impeached for getting a b-job.
Clinton was impeached for obstructing justice, subborning perjury and lying under oath. The B-Job was a convenient smokescreen which deflected attention from the serious crimes Clinton committed.
Clinton did many other unethical things that I think deserved prosecution had we had the witnesses available to do so. read that: James McDougal, James Riady and Jon Huang.
Hi NL
June 26, 2009 - 00:29 ET by shawn228I don't believe I ever said anything about Clinton. I simply said that many people that are really into politics, liberal and conservative alike will ignore candidates shortcomings to have the party of their choice in power.
He had my vote
balboa
June 25, 2009 - 18:45 ET by well99"If you are faithful, try to be a good parent, and espouse family values, then I'm probably going to put more stock in what you have to say."
When your right your right.That is the bottom line.
"When your right your
June 25, 2009 - 19:06 ET by MightyMouth"When your right your right.That is the bottom line."
Still the dismay in the follow up replys to balboa's post are understandable. His track record of being wrong 99.9% of the time is still intact! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
lol
June 26, 2009 - 07:08 ET by well99Dont discourage balboa.He is right 0.1 and that is a improvement over last year.
I agree with you about
June 25, 2009 - 18:48 ET by motherbeltI agree with you about Sanford.
What bugs me is Donaldson lumping all Republicans in together.
Look at my comment just below, from earlier. Donaldson talks about "they" do this, and "they" do that....stereotyping Republicans.
Aren't Spitzer and John Edwards and McGreevy all Democrats? But you don't hear anyone talking about that being a "Democrat" problem.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
You nailed the problem right there MoBelt! That is exactly why
June 25, 2009 - 20:23 ET by pahuberthe democrats with evil glee are taking this 'lovely' oportunity to do... they love a catastrophe.
"What bugs me is Donaldson lumping all Republicans in together."
Along w/ all of the MSM.
so i guess
June 25, 2009 - 21:19 ET by 24enakJesus was a liberal when he said 'let he without sin, cast the first stone' I'm sure you trust Jesus.
Jesus was making a point to
June 25, 2009 - 21:36 ET by motherbeltJesus was making a point to people who were about to take it upon themselves to stone a woman to death, not just embarrass her.
What you are saying is that since no one is perfect, no one has the right to say someone else is wrong?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Everyone has the right to
June 25, 2009 - 22:00 ET by 24enakEveryone has the right to say someone else is wrong it is just that Sanfords creditability is about zero. If Sam critizied Phil Spector for all of his hair pieces, Sam's creditability would also be about zero.
Or if Sam criticized Andy Rooney's eyebrows he would not be in a position to criticized.
bottom line Sam has the right to be critical of Sanford, unless Sam has had a affair of his own.
Anything else you want to teach us
June 25, 2009 - 21:53 ET by RESTLESS 1about the Bible 24??? Ya know being as you're a scholar and all.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Well if your asking.
June 25, 2009 - 22:12 ET by 24enakcompletly off topic but since you asked. Matthew 5:31-32 "whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery"
Mark 10:2-12 "So they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined let no one separate."
So since the bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman and therefore gay marriage shouldn't be legal. I think that since the bible condems divorce and gay marriage then divorce should be illegal as well.
A scholar I am not but 'let he without sin cast the first stone' is a well known verse.
Yeah it is.
June 25, 2009 - 22:19 ET by RESTLESS 1Now would you care to put it in context?
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Oh.
June 25, 2009 - 22:26 ET by RESTLESS 1And I get the whole "pot calling the kettle black" angle you're going for, but the color of the pot does not make the kettle any less black.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Sam Donaldson
June 25, 2009 - 23:37 ET by merlin61Sam, I am, I am, I am. I don't really give a damn!!
A GOP you can't forgive,but God does and he still
lives. Dems cheat too, and will be caught. All your
self-rightousness will be for naught.
They thump the Bible. They
June 25, 2009 - 15:12 ET by motherbeltThey thump the Bible. They condemn everyone else, and when they- human- they don’t have much credit in the bank for forgiveness." -Sam Donaldson
Excuse me, Sam.....when did Sanford thump the Bible? When did he condemn everyone else???? Got quotes?
What Donaldson is doing here is stereotyping all Republicans as judgmental Bible-thumpers. And because "all" Republcans are, of course, like that, any one of them can expect to be pilloried when he/she sins.
So much for liberals being unprejudiced.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
"So much for liberals being
June 26, 2009 - 05:35 ET by troglodyt"So much for liberals being unprejudiced."
So much for stereotyping yourself.
Rush was right today.
June 25, 2009 - 15:13 ET by acaiguanaFor a Party of people who believe in moral equilivance; Democrats give us an alternative.
Diminish values to the level of no values at all or live in a world where moral equilivance runs your society.
Give me a world of values over moral equilivance.
Republicans need to live up to their hype.
But since we are living in a world of Professional politicians with little difference in Party affiliation, this stuff will go on.
ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Sanford's Forgiveness
June 25, 2009 - 15:14 ET by ghblogGov. Sanford appears to be an idiot when it comes to his personal life. I thought he was a staunch conservative when it came to his state's fiscal policies. We see far too few of these public officials.
He doesn't need Sam Donaldson's forgiveness or to explain anything to Sam (unless Sam happens to live in S. Carolina). I feel for his family and supporters who he let down.
Sam exposed a little of his bias as his wig came off and he called Republicans sanctimonious (some not all). Would he say the same thing about Al Gore, John Kerry, etc.
Give me a break.
http://www.framingthedialogue.com/
Sam says... Scum of the
June 25, 2009 - 15:18 ET by bigtimerSam says... Scum of the earth....
Cokie says....Laughing-stock
No you two hypocritical whiz-bangs...you aren't a joy at all as Robin says.
You both...along with all your leftist buddies in the msm are exactly the terms you both used above....all of you.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Sam,Sam, Sam
June 25, 2009 - 15:30 ET by iveseenitallYou're right, Sam. It was so "sanctimonious" of those who condemned you for taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from the government for your "farm", while you were making millions being a "journalist". Shame on them.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Typical elitist bigotry coming from a typical elitist bigot.
June 25, 2009 - 15:27 ET by mattmWhat these lost souls fail (or refuse) to grasp is that you have to have a moral code to be guilty of breaking it.
"Bible thumpers" admit they are sinners. Bible hating rationalist bigots deny the existence of sin or morality. So, since they deny morality yet condemn others on moral grounds, they are the real hypocrites.
Amen
June 25, 2009 - 15:32 ET by bigtimerAmen mattm....Amen.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Well, matt, the Democrats
June 25, 2009 - 15:36 ET by motherbeltWell, matt, the Democrats don't have any standards, so they can't be hypocrites for not living up to them.
Neat how that works, huh?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Well, close
June 25, 2009 - 16:00 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnsondemocrats/liberals do have standards they, somehow, manage to live down to on a daily basis.
http://gjresult.com
Ahhh, yes....
June 25, 2009 - 15:37 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonOn the other hand, if you are a 'scum of the earth' liberal with no moral values and adultery, child porn, homersecksual relationship outside the marriage VOWS, etc are just another case of "Well, everybody does it." or "It's a personal issue and nobody elses business."
But, when a non liberal does something not approved of by the liberal garbage 'reporters', then it's the end of the world.
On a side note, cokie isn't aging well. Perhaps she went to the well of "everybody does it" too many times and found an unwelcome gift the medical community cannot remove from her system?
http://gjresult.com
"homer-sect-ual"?
June 25, 2009 - 16:21 ET by UndercoverConservativeis that a reference to the Simpsons series where the father figure starts his own cult?
too bad, because if it were, it would be amusing. As it is, with "teh Ghey" being all about political power and special benefits, it's disturbing and upsetting.
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"He's a cooked goose"
June 25, 2009 - 15:38 ET by mastersofdeceit"I don't see how he could run for President."
So let's see, Democrat adulterer Mayor of LA Antonio Villa-raigosa,(why he has the wifes' last name in his still I don't know), also still in office by the way Robin, has announced he will not run for governor of CA.
Democrat adulterer Mayor of San Fran Gavin Newsome, who had an affair not unlike Ensign with a campaign mgrs. wife, still in office by the way Robin, still seems to be set for a run for governor.
But using Sam's "logic" he should be "a cooked goose", riiiight Sam?
not only that, MOD
June 25, 2009 - 16:18 ET by UndercoverConservativebut Gavin "Any Two-some" Newsome is a favorite for the Democratic candidate for CA governor. So scandal for Dems=Political Promotion.
what our Republican fallen needs to do is campaign for energy slavery for the people while polluting up everything with a huge house and private jet, and push thru raising taxes while not paying his for years. Of course if this affair was willing on both sides then he still might have an issue with being accepted among the Dems, since the "best" Dem scandals are abuses of power forcing women into situations that are essentially rape.
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A little premature
June 25, 2009 - 21:34 ET by 24enakyou would have a point if Gavin Newsome wins the race for governor but he hasn't won anything yet.
You would also have a point if the two mayors from California ran for president, they would be a cooked goose for being an adulterer.
To more fairly compare Sanford to a Democrat I think of the former gov. of New Jersey whom also cheated on his wife while in office. and he resigned from office.
24
June 26, 2009 - 09:05 ET by well99Did Dave Patterson resign?
republicans + sex scandal = bad because
June 25, 2009 - 16:13 ET by UndercoverConservativeof their 'sanctimonious" moral stance. But Democrat + big enviro pollution= good even with their sanctimonious AGW stance.
I think mathematically that we can boil this down to: anything+Republican=bad while everything+anything (same stuff as Republicans) = good.
and that, my students, is BAD.
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Sorry
June 25, 2009 - 19:23 ET by DoktorFrankenI didn't know there was going to be any math. ;-)
BUT, since you brought it up, here's my AGW formula for the eons -
Man vs Nature = Nature Wins
And just what does have to do with your post and this thread? I - don't - know. It just seems to me that Conservatives can never come to a satifying conclusion trying to debate issues with Leftists because they (the Left) are never based in reality.
And that, dear readers, is why I was always a pain in the ass in school.
A perfect example of a
June 25, 2009 - 16:27 ET by nolotrippenA perfect example of a Straw Man.
Typical tactic: blame the enemy of doing something they're not and then demand they defend why they do it (Do you still beat your wife, yes or no?).
Do any of these talking heads who *SHOCK* are actually throwing stones even own a Bible and read it? Maybe a little thumping wouldn't hurt.
it's hard to forgive
June 25, 2009 - 16:29 ET by BDit's hard to forgive Bible-thumping Republicans for their sexual transgressions. He began by deriding, "The problem Republicans have, so many of them are sanctimonious."
sams "forgiveness" is
June 25, 2009 - 20:37 ET by TruthMongersams "forgiveness" is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS - typical liberal conceit to think anyone needs it
we "Bible thumpers" have the forgiveness of Jesus - btw WHICH NO ONE DESERVES
the Christian believes everyone is equally sinful - we are not better than anyone else - just forgiven - while the liberal believes they are better than others - so they in fact are the very judgemental crowd - not Christians - oh the irony:)
O whats the matter Dems,
June 25, 2009 - 16:33 ET by kangarooO whats the matter Dems, Republicans getting it more than you?
Another BIG Lie
June 25, 2009 - 16:44 ET by Chris NormanI reject the premise of Donalson's phonily framed argument. As far as I know, none of these so-called "bible thumpers" ever really go out and thump a bible in public. In fact, except for saying they support "family values" (I'm never sure exactly what that term means), these guys are very passive in temperment. I'm hardly a religious person, but I'm not offended by their fairly innocous personas. It's the liberals in Congress and the Media who go around selling the myth that these politicians are bible thumpers delivering fire breathing sermons on the campaign trail and the floor of Congress and are quick to condemn everyone but themselves as "sinners". They are only "bible thumpers' in the liberals' fevered imagination - much like their claims that Bush and Cheney questioned their patriotism.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Exactly right Chris....you
June 25, 2009 - 16:49 ET by bigtimerExactly right Chris....you hit the nail right on the head.
It's maddening with the msm along with the leftist pols.
It's also getting tiring.... all of them and their blather.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt, How many
June 25, 2009 - 17:01 ET by Chris Normanbt,
How many conser vatives would recognize themselves from the liberal's and liberal media's cartoonish description of them?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Chris.... Zilch Doubling
June 25, 2009 - 17:07 ET by bigtimerChris....
Zilch
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
That’s odd, I don’t
June 25, 2009 - 17:42 ET by USA4freedomThat’s odd, I don’t remember asking old Sam for forgiveness.
Maybe Sam should ask us to forgive him for that hair..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
This is the thread winning
June 26, 2009 - 11:49 ET by G. MayThis is the thread winning post.
Note to Sam
June 25, 2009 - 17:58 ET by Kat Outta the BagUnless someone has personally sinned against you, there's no "forgiveness" required on your part.
That was sarcasm (maybe not
June 25, 2009 - 21:44 ET by USA4freedomThat was sarcasm (maybe not a good example)
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Who's "Condemning" Whom?
June 25, 2009 - 18:27 ET by CrashGranted there are some out there who condemn "sinners" for their "sins." But, the Phelps are hardly representative of the majority of christians whom Sam lays rubber along with his drive by, burnout, squealers in the main stream media.
Not to mention the fact that if what Donaldson said was anything more than a conservative bashing cliche' ... wouldn't newsroom editors be more likely to champion "D" FOR DEMOCRAT, "L" FOR LIBERAL IN HUGE CAPITAL LETTERS when they get caught with their pants down; instead of hiding the facts?
now THAT'S what i would
June 25, 2009 - 20:40 ET by TruthMongernow THAT'S what i would call hard to forgive:)
Palin/Prejean 2012
When are the Democrats going
June 25, 2009 - 19:39 ET by AlanaWhen are the Democrats going to come out and say that religious people aren't welcome in their party?
Libs are the sanctimonious ones
June 25, 2009 - 19:47 ET by nkviking75When a Republican sex scandal emerges, the guilty person generally suffers for it politically. When a Democrat sex scandal emerges, they scream "None of your business!" and try to destroy their accusers.
Sammy, there's no one more sanctimonious than a liberal.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
The hypocrisy thing is just an excuse.
June 25, 2009 - 20:46 ET by pbthinkerThese people just use this as an excuse to avoid getting after Democrats and laying it on Republicans. My personal opinion is that the party that protected a President who broke their sexual harassment laws and had the press backing to do it, shouldn't even comment on the subject at all.
The press was complicit in Bill Clinton not being convicted and they're doing the same thing now with Obama. The irony is they want us to trust them. LOL
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
So, Sam,
June 25, 2009 - 23:06 ET by NorthCoasterSo the lesson here is what? Don't do it if you're a Republican? If you're a Democrat you can do anything you want because you don't promote Family values as an ideal?
Just as Barney Frank or Teddy Kennedy about the double standard. They get away with anything and are lionized instead of vilified.
→ Donaldson
June 26, 2009 - 00:49 ET by Cool ArrowHey Sam, It's also widely accepted that all liberal reporters troll public parks with a noose slung around their genitals and a pocketful of methamphetaine.
We will Barry you! - Russian Prophecy
CA
June 26, 2009 - 07:12 ET by well99You got that right.I think Sam would have Preperation H not meth.The rest would be the same.
C'mon, Donaldson, that was
June 26, 2009 - 02:13 ET by RR GOPC'mon, Donaldson, that was waaay over the top...you're supposed to be a journalist-act like one.
As for Sanford, I don't know enough about him to say whether he was a sanctimonious 'Bible thumper' or not.
I do agree in principle-a lot of 'Christians' I've dealt with in my life are nosey, kniving, selfish, crooked... You know they have some major baggage going on. I can only image Jesus rolling his eyes and saying, "Oh, goody" when some of these folks say they want to give their lives to Him.
And then there's the majority I've met who are decent people, truly believe and act accordingly. Doesn't mean they have to act like they have a 2X4 up their behinds, either.
But these elitist Libtards don't like any Christians to begin with.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
Talking about the wrong bank
June 26, 2009 - 06:32 ET by wolfemanicDonaldson: they don’t have much credit in the bank for forgiveness."
Oooh yea they do have credit Sammy......Its not good people that go to heaven, only the forgiven do.
Difference between Repubs and Dems
June 26, 2009 - 06:54 ET by SlasherRepublicans admit to their extra curricular affairs, when caught.
Dem's cry out, "I did not have sex with that woman", when caught.
C'mon Sam, get it right the first time.
Donaldson is a...
June 26, 2009 - 07:43 ET by jdripperliberal. That is all that has to be said.
Jack
"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart. If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains." Sir Winston Churchill
jessieH
June 26, 2009 - 07:45 ET by jessieHjessieH Yes, and poor Bill Clinton was such an angel. Get rid of every last one of them.
Sam Donaldson and Forgiveness.
June 26, 2009 - 08:38 ET by grumpyoldbForgiveness is supposed to be given freely. You do not have to have "credit" in order to gain it, it's just not for sale. And Yes, I forgive you for being such an ignorant, sanctamoneus, egotistical, jackass that you would even think that you have to build up credit to be forgiven.....
My take
June 27, 2009 - 01:20 ET by DoktorFrankenThe Left Loves the Sin yet Hate the Sinners - if they're Conservatives.
The Left Loves the Sin and Loves the Sinners - if they're Leftists.
Satire
July 11, 2009 - 00:35 ET by Satire VSatire V
www.mincedwords.com
Still the MSM claims that they aren't complicit, that they don't discuss the terminology and the tactics they intend to use against conservative. How odd then, that with overwhelming evidence to the contrary, there is this sudden claim by multiple media elites claiming that Dems have a harder time hanging on after sex scandals.
Worse is the implication that Republican indiscretions are worse because many of them are Christians. I personally think its much worse to believe that your behavior is OK, then to hopefully realize that this kind of behavior is a sin against their spouse AND God.
Perhaps the most important point is that Republicans are far less likely to ignore or excuse this kind of behavior among their own then Dems are.
Oh, and Sam, the Bible thumpers don't need your forgiveness. They have a much higher power to answer to.