The abortion debate "turns" deadly?  It's why Roe v. Wad/Doe v. Bolton have led to the killing of 45 million-plus.  These media abortion hacks are heartless to the plight of the baby in the womb whose mother walks in to have her child killed, slaughtered, dismembered, executed.  

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
  --  GK Chesterton

to be on the pain of the tiller family. 

God forbid that anything like the atrocities of tiller for profit be spoken shortly after his death lest we be indicted in some way.  If one dare say that it is good that babies may now live for a short season until another human monster takes the vacancy then we 'support murder' or more specifically are accused of supporting the murder of tiller...  it seems as if we are being goaded into acting like we are so sad and feel for his poor poor wife who knew full well what this beast did. 

Just to be crystal clear.  Murder is never ever justified by anyone at anytime (other than self defense which is not really murder).   tiller (lc deliberate) was murdered by another murderer who has hurt the pro-life movement and will make us endure the msm's  shallow accusations and rage for the next umpteen days.

Was it right to kill tiller?  NO.

Am I glad he was murdered.  NO.

Am I glad he is dead and gone?  Yes.

Can I rejoice that he is dead and gone...Yes.

One certainly can even though one does not support his murder (The ends do not justify the means).  I rejoice that there is one less person here on earth alive that will not murder babies right out of the womb like tiller did.

Any other view or focus is falsely giving credence to how terrible this particular procedure really is or how wretched a human is to actually practice this for their business.  Just saying I 'understand the procedure' and saying you pity tiller rings hollow in the face what he actually did on a daily basis.  Any rational or normal person should have shunned this person knowing what he did... 

I have no sympathy for anybody or their family that serves to do this type of thing in our society.  

The person who killed tiller will pay for his crime and rightfully so.  I do not condone what he did and it was wrong morally and legally.  Having said that I will not mourn tiller and am happy he is no longer amongst the living.  Being glad he is dead does not make you a supporter of murder.

I shed no tears for the American Mengele

As a libertarian, I believe very strongly that all human beings have the
God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That
especially includes those who exist, but who are not yet born into this
world, and cannot speak for themselves.

This nation, under the bogus guise of “human rights,” and (let’s be
honest here) as a matter of shallow, selfish convenience, has deprived
that right to over 40 million of its own citizens. Any nation that
would willingly commit genocide at that level has a profoundly corrupt
soul.

As I see it, there are only two acceptable reasons for taking the
life of another human being. One is in defense of oneself or one’s
family. The other is in a time of war. Any other time, barring a tragic
accident, is murder.

I realize that there are times when terminating a human pregnancy is
necessary, but what Tiller was doing was outright infanticide. It
matters not if the birth mothers were depressed. Big deal. I get
depressed sometimes, to, but I don’t go out and kill a child over it.

As I see it, Tiller’s “profession” was in no way different than what
Joseph Mengele was doing in Germany in the 1930s and 40s. Many in
Germany supported what Mengele was doing, and far many more here in
America supported what Tiller did.

How does that make us any better than the NAZIs, or the Japanese,
for that matter, who were themselves conducting hideous medical
experiments on the Chinese?

Yes, what Roeder did was wrong, but as we said back in the ‘90s,
sh*t happens. The law provides a mechanism to deal with these
situations, and it will do so here.

At the end of the day, it changes nothing. Abortion is still
murder-it’s as simple as that. The fact that it may be legal matters
not, and I am not interested in hearing whatever lies those who support
this hideous procedure have conjured up to convince themselves that it
is okay to take the lives of unborn human beings.

Remember, the NAZIs carried out over 11 million post-natal
abortions. We executed a lot of those who participated in the
slaughter.

We currently live in a sick, twisted society-one in which we who
support the right to life for our fellow human beings, and who happen
to love our country, and particularly its founding document, are
considered extremists, if not outright terrorists, by not only our own
government, but perhaps even a majority of our fellow citizens.

I honestly do not believe this society, or this nation, has much time left.

In what time I do have left, I’ll be damned if I am going to allow
myself to be coerced, or otherwise intimidated into silence on any
issue, and if Barack Hussein Obama, the SCM, and the DHS don’t like it?

Tough.

BTW, for those of you new to NB, I was adopted at the age of four
weeks in 1964. I was lucky. Had I been a little later coming along, I
very well could have wound up like this: http://www.norwayunc...

-Dave

Let's get a few things straight here.

Nobody, as far as I can tell, is asking you to shed tears for Tiller.  It's absurd to suggest that more pathos ought to be inherent in deaths and murders that make the news than those that do not.  Just as I didn't find Jerry Falwell's death to be any more important or sad than any of the countless other elderly people who likely died of natural causes that day but weren't important enough to make the news.

So don't mourn for him.  No one cares.

What is perversely apparent, however, and what a few select posters on this site have pointed out in the face of withering denial, is that the pompous claim of "not mourning" has taken on a distinct undertone of being glad that Tiller is dead.  Of saying, "Well good, now there's one less baby murderer." 

Sorry, but abortion providers are not 'murderers', and all of your repetition of that word will not make them so.  Murder is defined as the willful, unlawful killing of a person.  I haven't yet seen someone make the case that Tiller was breaking the law.  So if you could all be intellectually honest and drop the rhetorical deployment of 'murderer' from your description, that'd be just super.

Besides which, I have yet to see anybody mention the part that the mother plays in this.  Many of you seem to think that abortion doctors run around the streets with a pair of foreceps, performing abortions against the mothers' will, and then billing them for their time.  No, in fact, they are performing a procedure that the mother has elected, as an individual, to undergo.  That, by the way, is why the rhetoric comparing abortion to mass murder or the holocaust is ridiculous.  It's about individuals making decisions about something growing inside their own body.  Not a single organization forcing its genocidal will upon others.

In case you forgot--the posts from the two ethicists today was one of  the reasons I reduced my participation before. That and the refusal of some to see what was happening to the Republican party.

PS How can you make worthy judgments if your moral compass has no true north???

I am sitting here listening to "The Best of Jane Monheit". Her "Over The Rainbow"is one of the best I have ever heard.