Sounding Too Much Like Michael Moore, Chuck Todd Cites NewsBusters

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On Thursday's "Morning Joe," after being told that a critique of his on the auto industry bailout sounded very similar to one made by liberal filmmaker Michael Moore, MSNBC political director Chuck Todd told co-host Willie Geist that he dreaded what the people at NewsBusters would say: "By the way, I can't wait 'til our friends at NewsBusters, you know, compare, compare me to Michael Moore. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, Willie."

The exchange occurred after Todd argued that there was a class warfare reason behind the fact that the October financial bailout seemed to have less resistance than the auto industry rescue plan now being considered. He argued, "We are holding the automakers and the UAW to a tougher standard than, it seems to me, that we held the Citibank guys and, it seems to me, that we held everything that's going on with the white collar bailout on Wall Street." [Audio available here]

He later added, "...And maybe it's because we also don't know anybody that works at GM...We don't know those families. But, we do know somebody at JPMorgan Chase." Geist then played a clip of Moore "making almost the same point you're making right now."

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After featuring a snippet of Moore ranting about the Wall Street "thieves" and how much nicer those executives were treated, Todd responded with his quip about NewsBusters. Of course, one difference that both Moore and Todd ignored: The October bailout was followed by a seemingly endless call for more bailouts and also that it was a few weeks before a presidential election. Those facts could certainly be an alternative theory to the class warfare argument. And it must be said, Todd was making almost exactly the same point Moore made.

A pervious example of Chuck Todd's interaction with NewsBusters occurred in August when he talked about (then) presidential candidate Barack Obama's appearance with Rick Warren and attempts to forestall "personal hatred" against the Democrat from evangelical Christians. He later contacted NewsBusters to express regret for the comment.

A transcript of the December 4, 2008 segment, which occurred at 8:10am, follows:

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Chuck, are they going to get a lifeline?

CHUCK TODD: I do want to get at this issue- No, I want to get at this issue that Barnicle just brought up which is the blue-collar bailout versus the white-collar bailout. We are- It does seem "we" and the collective "we" here is the Washington intelligentsia, Amtrak intelligentsia. So, it's Congress. It's political community. It's the media. We are holding the automakers and the UAW to a tougher standard than, it seems to me, that we held the Citibank guys and, it seems to me, that we held everything that's going on with the white collar bailout on Wall Street. And it does- this is how class warfare starts. And, so, that is something I think we all have to be mindful of here is, you know, you do wonder, are we being more lenient- we don't mean to be, maybe, but are we being more lenient about what's going on Wall Street because maybe we don't understand the problem as well, it's a lot harder to comprehend and we're sitting there going, 'Oh, man, you're telling us the financial system, our ATMs might not-- okay, fine, bail them out.' The car industry, we all feel like we know something about and we're tougher on 'em and maybe it's because we also don't know anybody that works at GM, which is what Barnicle just said. We don't know those families. But, we do know somebody at JPMorgan Chase.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

WILLIE GEIST: Chuck, to your point really quickly. I just want to play something that we've been playing this morning. Michael Moore on "Countdown" last night, making almost the same point you're making right now. Let's listen to Michael Moore.

MICHAEL MOORE: When the three automaker chiefs went to Washington, they were treated like errant schoolchildren and then sent back home to Detroit to write an essay on why we should get free cash. When the Wall Street bankers and thieves came down there back in October, it was just the opposite. Nobody asked them what they flew down on. It was just, 'Step right up, boys. Oh, yeah. Big finance. Great. We love that.' Car guys show up from the Midwest, 'Oh, what's this, manufacturing? What do you guys do? You build things? Oh, no, we like the guys who just make money off their money.'

GEIST: Chuck, Congress did just kind of back up the flatbed of money to Wall Street but not so easy this time.

BRZEZINSKI: Wow. With no strings attached.

TODD: Right. By the way, I can't wait 'til our friends at NewsBusters, you know, compare, compare me to Michael Moore. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, Willie.

GEIST: You can handle it, Chuck.

TODD: No, but it does go- it does seem that there were not enough- whatever you want to call it- congressional checks on what the $700 billion will go for.

BRZEZINSKI: Correct.

TODD: It's why it was unpopular around the country. It was really only popular in the Amtrak corridor, you know? The New York to Washington corridor which, you know, in some ways forced the passage of this. And it still may be the right thing to do. Nobody- I'm not- I'm not criticizing it, but it is just the perception of how we covered that, how politicians reacted to that versus how they're reacting to the auto bailout. And it may be that, you know what, it is time to get tougher on those guys. But, you know, the tough love should be spread out when we're handing out billions of dollars in bailout money.

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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O M G

can't we just give those nutjobs AK's and let them have a circular firing squad .. of course, they'd probably just all shoot themselves in the foot ..

never look a gift skunk in the tail

I guess you could look at

I guess you could look at this Chuck Todd mention in two ways...

1) NewsBusters got a free plug on a 24-Hour cable news network.  Perhaps this will drive more traffic to the site.

2) NewsBusters got a free plug on MSNBC, a 24-Hour cable news network with ratings numbers at statistical zero.  How valuable can a free plug on an unwatched network be?  Or, if a tree falls on MSNBC...

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

fitzfong.blogspot.com

Wow.  Where does one

Wow.  Where does one start?   Do these flunkies have the foggiest notion of what they are spouting on about?  Or is it more calculated Left-wing propaganda?

1. The auto industry has plenty of white collar executives.

2. The "Wall Street bailout" was also (boldly, might I say) resisted at first, but...

3. it occured just prior to a major election and principled candidates lost their nerve, and

4. it was aimed at trying to address a systemic problem projected to cripple the entire financial system, namely a credit freeze brought on by a deflating housing bubble coupled with bad mortgages, which, among other things would lead to...

5. difficulties in obtaining "everyday" loans necessary for "normal" commerce, among these being "car loans."

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

"Damn those nosy

"Damn those nosy Newsbusters! Always pointing out our liberal bias instead of letting it slide in sublimally. Why can't they just be good little peasants and keep their keyboards shut?"

It's not about white collar vs blue collar

It's about preventing systemic failure vs. delaying the inevitable by bailing out a horribly mismanaged firm.

Well....

If the XXXXXXXXL Men's Warehouse Michigan State Sweatshirt fits....

No whining Mr Todd and Mr Moore.

Gawd, they sound like a couple of spoiled brats. "Where's mine. He got more." LMAO. The bailout was a farce to begin with. And that little dinky 700 BILLION has now well over a TRILLION.

The auto makers need to restructure through legal channels. Not go begging for money from us.

 

 

 

 

Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Never trust a man with two first names

Todd actually had me fooled before this past election that he was a nonpartial political observer. But like the rest of the MessNBC Obamedia crew, he showed his true colors.

The only person worth a damn at that joke of a station is Joe Scarborough. Mika is easy on the eyes, too.

I detest moral equivalence,

I detest moral equivalence, especially from the likes of Michael Moore.  Insisting on equality of treatment to the second set of money grubbers when the first set was equally WRONG.

Hello you idiot talking heads, no one wanted the original bailout of wall street either.  The public told them no and they did it anyway after sweetening the pot.  Why don't you actually comment on the con job that was done on Congress to get them to agree to a bailout by Paulson and company?  Why don't you discuss that Paulson hasn't done what the Congress authorized him to do? Why don't you discuss why Paulson has spent only $350 billion of the $700 billion and the time table for the remainer and on what it will be spent?  Now what makes anyone think the Big 3 will do any different than Paulson or this will be the only time they ask for taxpayer money? 

Here's a thought why don't you ask where the money is coming from and talk about the Broken Window Fallacy????  Naaaaa, that might require too much intelligence on your part and worse, expose the idea of government meddling and central planning for the fraud it is.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

While you are considering

While you are considering some intelligent questions to discuss, how about Paulson's next trick? Tell us again WHERE will the money come from and what will be the result of draining more liquidity of the markets just to prop up the failure of the CRA? 

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

WHERE will the money come from?

Why, they're going to print it of course!

Ask Fred.

 

Great commentary by Mr.

Great commentary by Mr. Thompson on the proverbial fat elephant in the room that the media, President and President-elect don't want to talk about.  Funny how it is relegated to youtube.

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

Fred's on w/Cavuto

Discussing this issue right now.

He's the only person in the political arena who makes any sense whatsoever.

 

 

They Zinged ya

They Zinged ya NB!!!

 

 

yeah..

my husband came home from work yesterday evening and said

"Something bad happened today." 
I ask, very worried "Whhhat?"
He says, "I agreed with Michael Moore."
Of course I say, "No dinner for you!"

so he goes on to explain this interview Moore had.  But Moore also spinned the yarn of the evils of capitalism as well.  SO .. right idea... whacked reasoning.

No one wanted the first bailout either.  I would bet if this had been able to have been brought to the people for a vote, it would have had been a complete trouncing. And of course the fact that they keep referring to it as $700b when the very first sum total was $840b and considerably more has been piled on since.  Someone has it calculated out to $3.8 trillion.

"If you think you're finished shopping for Christmas, why not start on next year"

Can't stand msnbc, cannot

Can't stand msnbc, cannot stand Chuck Todd, never have been able to long before he joined msnbc, and I sure as heck cannot stand the hypocritical capitalist tub of lard Moore.

Other than that...I just don't care about any of these twits.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

sigh the things we could have done with the trillions

We could have  put a permanent base on the moon, given Mankind a real foothold on the stars, that woulda cost a trillion dollars and there just isnt any way to get that money.

We could have sent a manned mission to Mars. but that woulda put a trillion dollars' worth of jobs back into the economy, and we don't have that kind of money, the poor would lose critical social services if we did that. 

We could have built our own Large Hadron Collider and shattered the boundaries of science, but that would have cost a trillion dollars and the money simply doesn't exist.

We could pay money to pay back money that didn't exist in the first place, rewarding businesses that take risk-free "risks" and who profitted for a hundred years but couldn't be arsed to reinvest their profits. We could pay off the mistakes of banks that funded every worldwide conflict in modern history(Citi Group), who reaped billions in interest payments..that would take more than a trillion dollars that we...oh, here we go, found it under the cushions here...

If government is going to rape the people, it could have done something miraculous. Instead, all it did was help perpetuate the problems that have oppressed people for generations. And make sure that we will be right back in this boat again very soon, if this country survives that long.

Is this "Let Them Eat Cake", or "No Taxation Without Representation"? 

To paraphrase the notorious LOLCats: "Can it be revolution timez nao?"

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same.

That pic of Michael Moore on the highlight bar...

...showing him donning latex examination gloves scares the hell out of me. :-O

-Dave

When in doubt, always side with freedom, as it sure beats the hell out of the alternative.

Hey Dave... LOL...doesn't

Hey Dave...

LOL...doesn't scare me in the least......but it should scare the leftist lovin' lemmings....probably the cleanest thing he has ever put on his body.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt,

...doesn't scare me in the least...

LOL-Easy for you to say, as you didn't undergo your first prostate exam a couple of years ago.

Damned invasive, that was.  :-O

-Dave

When in doubt, always side with freedom, as it sure beats the hell out of the alternative.

Oh Dave... Little do you

Oh Dave...

Little do you know...I've been through far more than you think my friend...but if anybody that even looked like Moore (and I would imagine smelled like him) ever came near me...I'm gone.

We do have a choice in this life....like just say NO.

 "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

§Bt, Dave...I'm still alive!!

I love how MSNBC is going to that Socialist Moore for financial advice!!

PS. Sorry I've been gone for a while!  I'm trying to get the State to pay for me to go back to school since I was Laid off at Dell due to Trade.  I can get some more Computer Certifications while waiting for the jobs to come back.  Dell paid for Unemployment Insurance for my 9 years there...I may as well use it!!

Ster.

My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

bt, I know.

LOL-I was just being, well, anal.  :-^)

-Dave

When in doubt, always side with freedom, as it sure beats the hell out of the alternative.

glad its not just me

I am pretty sure I flinched when I first saw that pic.

kk,

LOL-You flinched, I puckered.

-Dave

When in doubt, always side with freedom, as it sure beats the hell out of the alternative.