On Thursday's "Good Morning America," journalist Bill Weir touted left-wing filmmaker Spike Lee as a "social critic" and ignored any mention of the director's bizarre conspiracy theories, such as his 2005 contention that the United States government intentionally blew up the levees during Hurricane Katrina in order to flood African American areas. Instead, Weir marveled, "No director in Hollywood has attacked the thorny issue of race quite like Spike Lee."
While promoting Lee's new World War II film, the anchor of the weekend edition of GMA enthused, "'Do the Right Thing' and 'Malcolm X,' still loom over his 15 other feature films as ground breaking emblems of righteous anger." Weir also labeled the more hopeful tone of Lee's "The Miracle at St. Anna" as a "reflection of one social critic's mood in an age of change." Of course, Weir neglected to mention that this same "social critic" has also declared "it's not far-fetched" to think that the levees in New Orleans were destroyed by the United States government.
Appearing on the October 21, 2005 edition of "Real Time With Bill Maher," Lee asserted that a "choice had to be made, one neighborhood got to save another neighborhood and flood another 'hood, flood another neighborhood."
In contrast to Weir, ABC reporter Steve Osunsami actually highlighted Spike Lee's conspiracy theories during a segment on race and Hurricane Katrina on the August 29, 2006 edition of "World News." However, Osunsami offered zero skepticism and failed to point out that there's absolutely no evidence to support the idea that the government destroyed the levees. Instead, he simply repeated, "In many black neighborhoods, they actually believe that white residents sent the barge that destroyed the levee and flooded their communities...To this day, the conspiracy theories are so widely held, director Spike Lee put them on film."
A transcript of the September 25 segment, which aired at 8:41am, follows:
DIANE SAWYER: Spike Lee's new film, "The Miracle at St. Anna," based on true events It tells the story of a group of black soldiers caught behind enemy lines during World War II. And while the drama marks a departure from previous Lee movies, like "Do the Right Thing," the director remains just as provocative as ever, as ABC's Bill Weir found out.
ABC GRAPHIC: Spike Lee One-on-One: His Epic World War II Film
SPIKE LEE: All right. Here we go, people.
BILL WEIR: No director in Hollywood has attacked the thorny issue of race quite like Spike Lee. "Do the Right Thing" and "Malcolm X," still loom over his 15 other feature films as ground breaking emblems of righteous anger. He left the topic alone two years ago and "Inside Man" became his first real blockbuster.
["Inside Man" clip.]
WEIR: But "The Miracle at St. Anna," proves he still has much to say about the historic struggle of African-Americans. Though he is happy to concede real progress on Americans' attitude on skin color. Could you have gotten this film made 20, 25 years ago?
LEE: No. I don't think we had a Barack Obama 20 years ago, either. So, I think definite evidence that things have changed seismically in this country.
WEIR: The film is part murder mystery, part World War II epic, centered on four members of the Buffalo Soldiers, a segregated unit that fought the Nazis in Italy. They love country first and foremost. But certainly, some of them must have thought, with our efforts, with our blood, we can earn respect back at home.
LEE: Yes. That's why many of them fought. African-Americans have always been patriotic. And always fought and died for this country, all through time when we've been treated, treated like second-class citizens. In fact, there's a line that Derek Luke's character says. And he says, paraphrasing, that, it's a shame that I feel home more in a foreign country, than in my own native land.
WEIR: His desire to see those soldiers get their due sparked a war of words with Clint Eastwood this summer. After Lee pointed out the lack of black soldiers in "Flags of our Fathers" and "Letters from Iwo Jima," Eastwood said Lee should, quote, "shut his face."
LEE: What they left out is the first thing I said before that is that he's a great director. What I said was not malicious. It is historically documented there were between 700 and 900 black Marines and black soldiers on the island of Iwo Jima. I saw both of his films. I commented on the lack thereof.
WEIR: In "The Miracle of St. Anna," the race line dissolves as the soldiers protect an Italian orphan. Love transcending prejudice. Despite the horrors of war, the film contains some of the most hopeful scenes that Lee has ever shot. A reflection of one social critic's mood in an age of change.
["Miracle at St. Anna" clip.]
LEE: I've never done a film, probably with the exception of "Malcolm X," that's had this much amount of religion, faith, spirituality, mysticism, in it. All those things come from the James novel- the James McBride novel. But it's also stuff that I believe. I think that one believes in God, one believes in miracles. They go hand in hand. And it was a miracle this film got made.
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.
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September 25, 2008 - 15:35 ET by AgentAmericanHe'll always be Mars Blackmon
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If Spike Lee is a "social
September 25, 2008 - 15:40 ET by Indiana JoeIf Spike Lee is a "social critic," so is Larry the Cable Guy.
And a better one, CTTOI.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
I realize you hate Spike
September 25, 2008 - 15:49 ET byI realize you hate Spike Lee. Why, I can't tell other than the fact that he's not a Republican touting the conservative line. You act like every mention of Lee is to be prefaced by something that in your mind, diminishes him, no matter what the subject at hand is! But what YOU don't "include" in your article is that the governmentBLEW UP THE LEVEE'S BEFORE! And spare me the tired rationalizations of "why" this was done in 1927, it's irrelevant if you were living there at the time! It's one thing to make the guy look like an idiot for making up out of "wholecloth" some outlandish conspiracy theory. But it's entirely another thing to rant and rave about his conspiracy theories and NEVER MENTION THAT IT HAPPENED BEFORE! Shoddy journalism on your part since you think they should have painted Lee as a conspiracy loon even though the SUBJECT was his MOVIE that had NOTHING to do with KATRINA. How puzzling then that you would leave out pertinent information that at least makes Lee look a little saner, i.e that the levees were blown INTENTIONALLY BEFORE!
I mean, if there was historical EVIDENCE showing beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the U.S. Government BLEW UP THE WORLD TRADE CENTER in 1927, I daresay those 9/11 truthers wouldn't look like the raving loons they are! Or perhaps you'd still think so, in any case the problem, in that eventuality would be YOU and not THEM.
When the rains broke records in April 1927, the Gulf of Mexico was full and worked as a stopper to the Mississippi. The Mississippi was full, too, pushing its own waters up tributaries, breaking levees and causing flooding as far as Ohio and Texas. All that water had to go somewhere.
It couldn't go to New Orleans, panicky city fathers told the Army Corps of Engineers; it would devastate the regional economy.
To save New Orleans, the leaders proposed a radical plan. South of the city, the population was mostly rural and poor. The leaders appealed to the federal government to essentially sacrifice those parishes by blowing up an earthen levee and diverting the water to marshland. They promised restitution to people who would lose their homes. Government officials, including Commerce Secretary Herbert Hoover, signed off.
On April 29, the levee at Caernarvon, 13 miles south of New Orleans, succumbed to 39 tons of dynamite. The river rushed through at 250,000 cubic feet per second. New Orleans was saved, but the misery of the flooded parishes had only started. The city fathers took years to make good on their promises, and very few residents ever saw any compensation at all.
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It is completely disingenuous of you to act like he's some kind of nutjob for thinking that something that has ALREADY happened might have happened again. You seem to think that NO MATTER what the subject, Lee should be peppered about his conspiracy theories, since you mentioned it twice. It didn't even dissuade you that it WAS mentioned WHEN IT WAS APPROPRIATE i.e on a piece about "conspiracy theories" but noooo that's not enough for you. You evidently want this guy who basically hasn't done much other than desire an equal society when none was present, to be tarred and feathered as some kind of extremist.
But it was YOU who left pertinent information out of you diatribe against Lee. Namely, that what he feared had ALREADY been done by the Government to the citizens of New Orleans. Shame on you.
Above Poster is a Complete Loon
September 25, 2008 - 16:17 ET by UtherpendGet on Meds quickly before you start acting like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory.....Oh wait, too late.
It is incredible that Hollywood still gives Spike Lee money to make films when his previous movies are box office bombs in terms of revenue.
Damn, Utherpend
September 25, 2008 - 16:19 ET by Indiana JoeOne of us owes the other a Coke. I'm too long-winded when my back is up.
GMTA ;^)
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
You are a loon
September 25, 2008 - 16:18 ET by Indiana JoeJust like Lee. What diatribe are you talking about? What hatred? Are you Spike Lee's buddy or something? Lee claims that the N.O. levees were blown up during Katrina, and you think Whitlock is "shoddy?" What color is the sky on your planet?
Lee is just another race-baiter. His comment about not being able to make this movie 20 years ago is pure rubbish. His type need to keep racism alive, because it lines his pockets. He's a one-note symphony, a one-trick pony.
Witness his upset that a movie about Iwo Jima didn't have enough black soldiers in it. He says it's "historically documented" that there were "between 700 and 900 black Marines and black soldiers" on Iwo Jima. According to www.iwojima.com there were 110,000 Marines shipped to Iwo Jima, "more than any other battle." So, he's complaining that less than 0.1% of combatants are under-represented.
In a cast of 1000, ONE black man would have been more than representative! Cry me a friggin' river! If that isn't reaching for something to complain about, I don't know what is.
We definitely need a better class of troll around here. And one that has the hubris to use a Biblical s/n is beneath contempt. With all the spewing of hatred and accusations, this one is about as Christian as Osama bin Laden.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
What a loon
September 25, 2008 - 23:58 ET by merlin61Troll: With all that flooding in 1927 --- was it
caused by global warming?
Go tell
your looney conspiracy theories to someone
who cares.
Act 2_38
September 25, 2008 - 16:28 ET by MrShyI just read your entire diatribe, and, well.... WOW.
We realize you love Spike Lee. That would explain why you are so quick to be his numero uno apologist. You go and let him off the hook for an absurd, baseless conspiracy theory by digging up an event from nearly a century ago that bears no resemblance to his insane idea... ?
Love him all you want, but many here have very good reason to not think much of either him or his movies.
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September 25, 2008 - 16:30 ET by SickofLibsPharaoh Ramses II also once blew up a Nile levee to save the inner city.
Lemme see, it's 1927 and the only choice I have is to divert floodwater into the marshlands OR wipe out the city, where most of those people earned a living? Sounds like a no-brainer.
Spike Lee is still a racist whackjob.
forgot: can anyone name even
September 25, 2008 - 16:35 ET by SickofLibsforgot: can anyone name even one of those "15 other feature films" made by the Mighty Movie Midget?
(other than the right thing & malcolm)
Wasn't one called "Jungle
September 25, 2008 - 16:55 ET by Indiana JoeWasn't one called "Jungle Fever?"
I'm sure it was very "socially conscious."
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
IJ - of course, how could I
September 25, 2008 - 17:14 ET by SickofLibsIJ - of course, how could I have forgetten that epic.
14 to go.
Inside Man Mo' Better
September 25, 2008 - 17:31 ET by balboaInside Man
Mo' Better Blues
School Daze
The one about basketball with Ray Allen in it.
That's all I've got. I loved Do the Right Thing. It was a great movie. But Spike Lee will always be the guy Reggie Miller got into a spat with at a Knicks game.
"The one about basketball with Ray Allen in it."
September 25, 2008 - 17:40 ET by Indiana JoeFunny name for a movie.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Yeah, probably hurt their
September 25, 2008 - 18:25 ET by balboaYeah, probably hurt their bottom line.
Summer of Sam was okay.
September 25, 2008 - 19:53 ET by Jack BauerSummer of Sam was okay. Quite enjoyed it.
Mt. 7: 3-5
September 25, 2008 - 17:39 ET by acumenAnd spare me the tired rationalizations of "why" this was done in 1927...
Why? Would doing so damage your hate-laced argument? Or are you afraid of the truth? Or both?
You point to apples while attempting to build a case for oranges. The blowing of the levee by the Federal Government in 1927 was not done in secret as Lee suggested the Federal Government did in 2005.
Further, the blowing of the levee in 1927 was not performed at the whim of the Federal Government. On the contrary, it was not an idea proposed by the Federal Government at all but one sought by the local political leaders of New Orleans.
If the Federal Government blew the levees in 2005 as suggested by Lee, then unlike 1927 such action was obviously done in secret and without the encouragement of local political leaders.
These two major variances from 1927 - 2005 cannot be overlooked if your point is to be considered valid. Which begs the question of; If the Federal Governent has never in the history of the US blown a levee before without the desire of local officials and without full public disclosure, why do you think it reasonable to assume it was done in 2005? Perhaps you are thinking of something more sinister.
Perhaps you support the West theory that Bush hates Black people. If so then how do you explain Bush not merely requesting but demanding millions of dollars more be given to Africans for AIDs assistance than any other politician has done in the past including the 'first black president'?
Regardless, your desire to avoid the "tired rationalizations" of 1927 and 2005 speaks volumes and only serves to damage your supportive argument of Lee.
....this guy who basically hasn't done much other than desire an equal society....
That dog won't hunt. To categorize Lee as someone that "desires an equal society" is flat out deception. He does not share the color-blind view of MLK. He makes millions promoting one single race and there is a word for one that engages in such behavior - racist. What is ironic is that if Lee was Asian and only interested in promoting other Asians I seriously doubt you would give him the time of day.
I realize you hate Spike Lee. Why, I can't tell other than the fact that he's not a Republican touting the conservative line.
I assure you the reason Lee is frowned upon on at this site has more to do with his blatant racism rather than him not being a Republican.
However, you are correct about Lee being seen in a poor light for not touting the conservative line. Unlike Lee, most conservatives abhor the utilization of racism to make a living. That said, based on your above quote, I find your own generalizations, stereotyping and biases to be equally disturbing as those of Lee.
Such behavior is damaging and shouldn't be tolerated after we have worked so hard as a nation to make more vivid the color-blind dreams of MLK.
Man some of you guys are
September 25, 2008 - 19:30 ET byMan some of you guys are kind of DIM.
"That dog won't hunt. To categorize Lee as someone that "desires an equal society" is flat out deception. He does not share the color-blind view of MLK. He makes millions promoting one single race and there is a word for one that engages in such behavior - racist. "
Said like a white guy who feels that after CENTURIES OF ABUSE the abused people are just supposed to "get over it". People like you call people who stood up like men and DEMANDED and end to their oppression branded "troublemakers" and "rabble rousers". We've seen your ilk on the landscape like, for ever! Sure you'll see that the black guy has a point, if he makes it in a nice ass kissing way that's pleasing to you! But if he asserts his own will and sees what was done to HIM and HIS PEOPLE from HIS perspective as opposed to YOURS, well, "houston we have a problem". If you weren't so sad, you'd be funny.
" Unlike Lee, most conservatives abhor the utilization of racism to make a living" You, mean except when the entire WHITE RACE was "making a living on race"? HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
ROFLMBO! Man, the fact that you could even make that statement while talking about SPIKE LEE who is the great-grandson of slaves and a man who was relegated to the back of the BUS in HIS OWN LIFETIME, is FRIGGIN AMAZING! Spikes a little older than me and when I was a baby the blacks were on the back of the bus and in separate restaurants! But a guy like you would probably look on those as, the "GOOD OLD DAYS", huh?
So your defense of Lee's
September 25, 2008 - 19:51 ET by Jack BauerSo your defense of Lee's racism is to point to racism that happened to his ancestors.
Point of fact, my "people" never owned slaves. Though if you go back just a few centuries, they were serfs which is a fancy name for slave. And even until the latter half of the last century, my "white peeps" lived in poverty. And were generally treated like shit, with a life expectency below 50.
So excuse me if I don't give two effs for Spike Lee and his vile black victimology kulture. Screw him.
As to your racist sterotyping of the "entire white race" (whatever THAT is), well that's just another liberal piece of sophomoric drivel.
HAHAHAHAHAH. That indicates "laughter" I suppose.
Man -- what a racist doofus you are. HUH HUH HUH??????? ROLFRIGGIUNWHATEVER!!!!!!!!!
By the way, the slave trade was organized in Africa by black Africans and Muslim Arabs, as it still is.
Jack
September 25, 2008 - 20:06 ET by MrShyOut of some still-harboring white guilt, I guess, I toned my rebuttal down quite a bit, but it's nice to have a "bad cop" to really put nonsense in it's place! :)
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September 25, 2008 - 23:09 ET by Indiana JoeRead his response to Ozark_Sunshine below. I think someone's wheels came off the track.
I'm totally serial.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Mr S. -- thanks man. He
September 26, 2008 - 18:34 ET by Jack BauerMr S. -- thanks man. He ain't stereotyping me! Enough of this never-ending garbage. Like many others I get sick of hearing it, as if I had anything to do with it.
Go back far enough, my ancestors were also enslaved by the Romans. As was most others in America with European ancestory.
Good lord, my grand-parents only got an inside toilet and bathroom in 1975, can you believe that? An outhouse. In frackin' ENGLAND! Okay not "racism" but wasn't only black folks with not so hot lives.
Jack
September 26, 2008 - 18:41 ET by MrShyYou bet! :) And yeah, well, living in NYC I'm dealing with tension all the time.... but then, that's pretty much all NY people in general. :p
Are they carrying the debate live o'er there tonight? (late night, I know...)
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Well said, Jack.
September 25, 2008 - 23:13 ET by R D Helm-Dave
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angry flame-throwing troll
September 25, 2008 - 20:08 ET by MrShy"Said like a white guy..."
Nice of you to call-out (wait, actually, *assume*) people's skin color around here.
"...who feels that after CENTURIES OF ABUSE the abused people are just supposed to "get over it"."
If a race was enslaved for centuries and freed last week, of course no one feels they should "get over it".
If a race was enslaved for centuries and freed last year, no, of course no one feels they should "get over it".
If a race was enslaved for centuries and freed a decade ago, people should not feel they should "get over it", no.
If a race was enslaved for centuries and freed a generation ago, still no, people shouldn't expect them to totally "get over it".
If a race was enslaved for centuries and freed two generations ago, or say a half-century ago, it might be time -- as it is for all of mankind and all races, all of whom have been enslaved or oppressed at one time or another, and are now free -- to begin to move forward and "get over it".
If a race was enslaved for centuries and freed over a century ago and fought for equal rights some 4-5 decades ago..... yeah, myself and any sane-thinking and non-self-destructive person would say... it's time to "get over it".
Now go ahead, call me a white guy (I am) and make some outrageous reverse-racism accusation of what I might do back around the mid-20th Century.
Wait, so you're saying they'll decide when to get over it? No discussion, case closed? If it's, say, 5 centuries, then it's 5 centuries?
Blonde, we need you! ;)
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September 25, 2008 - 22:56 ET by Indiana Joe"Spikes a little older than me and when I was a baby the blacks were on the back of the bus and in separate restaurants!"
Got news for you, ace. I'm a lot older than Spike, or you, and blacks were not "on the back of the bus and in separate restaurants" when I was a kid. Not in my town, or any town I was in back then.
See, I was there, junior! I know what I'm talking about. What you got, memories of being a baby? You are talking completely out your a$$. And you either know it, and are just a worthless lying troll, or you don't know how badly you've been hosed, and can't be bothered to find out the truth.
And none of this has anything to do with the fact that Spike Lee, whatever his color, is at most, a mildly talented director whose 15 minutes was up long ago, and who survives by pitching racial grievance to bone-heads like you. Your "whitey wrong, blackie right" world-view only serves to line the pockets of those smart enough to take advantage of your ignorance.
Dim? Compared to your wattage, sonny, we are mega-watt lighthouses of knowledge here.
Have a nice, hate-filled life.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Brick wall meet head
September 26, 2008 - 00:09 ET by acumenSaid like a white guy who feels that after CENTURIES OF ABUSE the abused people are just supposed to "get over it".
Do you know me? No? Then allow me to educate you about myself and "centuries of abuse." Lets revisit the "good ol days when all the whites were making a living off of race."
My ancestors came from Ireland to escape "centuries of abuse" (do your own research on that subject). Upon arriving in New Orleans they weren't well received as prejudice had followed them across the Atlantic. One of the few jobs available at the time was digging irrigation ditches around the rice fields.
Now the reason they were hired to dig the ditches is because the landowner's had too much capital invested in the purchase of black slaves and would not risk using their slaves in dangerous work. It was a risky job due to yellow fever which was transmitted from mosquitos that inhabited the rice fields and consequently claimed many lives. My ancestors lives along with those of other Irish transplants meant nothing to the landowners. If one died to yellow fever a replacement could quickly be found. The landowners could always replace the poor white worker and it would cost the landowner nothing.
On the other hand, years of work by the black slaves were required for the landowner to overcome his initial capital expenditure of purchasing the slave. In reality, the black slave was seen as more valuable to the landowners than the Irish. So the Irish went to work in the ditches and the blacks went to work in the cotton and tobacco fields. The Irish died in far greater numbers than the men from Africa. It wasn't a matter of race. It was a matter of economics.
Race is not a requirement for inhumanity. But some use race as an excuse to perpetuate hate against their fellow man. Unlike them I don't harbor resentment towards any particular group of people for my ancestors unfair treatment over the centuries so consequently there is nothing for me to "get over."
People like you call people who stood up like men and DEMANDED and end to their oppression branded "troublemakers" and "rabble rousers".
No you are wrong again so i will continue to educate you. I happen to be one of those men that stood up against oppression and was equally branded a troublemaker, rabble rouser and further was called something no black has ever been called, a nigger lover. When I was in High School I was ostracized and even beaten by some of my fellow whites.
You see, my father was a lifer in the Army and for the first decade of my life I lived outside the US and was not aware that such a thing as racism existed. On the Army bases I lived on at that time racism wasn't tolerated and in the schools I attended on base (1951 - 1961) race simply wasn't an issue to anyone. Friends were chosen based on similar interests, not the color of skin which was irrelevant to my fellow Americans on base. Unlike you, we didn't get hung up about skin color.
I became aquainted with the perverted concept of racism when we moved to NC. Later, around 1968 my dad went off to Vietnam and the rest of our family moved to Wilmington, NC to stay with relatives. It was around the time integration in the Public Schools in Wilmington came about and because of my unbiased and diverse background I was told (not asked) to be on the racial relations committee of my High School. So I was thrust squarely between two opposing sides, neither of which was too pleased with having to go to school together. I chose the side that all men are created equal. That view didn't play well with the whites and the blacks thought I was some kind of freak. I was strongly abused by both sides and if there was such a category, I'm confident I would have been chosen the most upopular guy in school. If a mini-riot broke out at school of which there were many, I was caught in the crossfire. I was persecuted by both black and white for encouraging others to get over their hang-ups about skin color. Both black pride and white supremacy ruled the day. As time went by, both sides overcame their percieved differences and began to interract. The weekly mini-riots stopped and most students got along or at the least tolerated each other. Both races began to realize they had much more in common than they had realized before.
Then the race-baiters came to town. You are probably familiar with the Wilmington 10. If not go here. Now three of the Wilmington 10 had been classmates of mine whom I knew quite well (if you want names send me a private email). They were good guys interested in the same things most teenagers at the time were interested in - sports, music and chicks. But I saw them become pawns of people eerily similar to Lee that use race for self-gain. These out-of-town race baiters came in and stirred the hornets nest. The race baiters used my friends to take the rap for their dirty work. So who was the guilty party in this case? My friends or the race baiters? Can't use race as your criteria because both parties were black. The guilty party was and remains the race baiters that stir the passions of young men solely for personal gain.
Men are men and evil is evil, regardless of race. So don't preach to me about what "people like you" are all about. Obviously you didn't have a clue. But I certainly have a clue about you. I've witnessed first-hand the damage people like you have done to my friends and the damage you continue to unleash on others through your fixation on race and victim mentality.
If you weren't so sad, you'd be funny.
The reason I am "so sad" is because of the hatred I see people like you display based on something as trivial as skin color. I had hoped by now we as a nation would have moved past that silliness but your comments have extinguished that hope.
But I will continue to look beyond race because I don't want dividers like you to succeed. I have witnessed the ugliness of racism first-hand from white southern liberal Democrats and black race baiters. I have personally been effected by the damage they have done to my friends and community.
Since Abraham Lincoln touched the conscience of America I have found most Republicans and conservatives genuinely judge people based on their character, values and beliefs rather than the color of one's skin. So unless that changes I will remain a Republican and conservative. And true to my past experiences and beliefs I will continue to fight the good fight against the hatred, namecalling and race card you and others with similar questionable motives toss my way - regardless of race. And if you can't dig that, then yeah....."get over it."
Cool, a new troll to play with! And a guv'mint ejumicated one!
September 25, 2008 - 23:04 ET by R D HelmSpike Lee is an elitist racist hate-monger.
If you support him, then you are what he is.
-Dave
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them - Rick Roberts
My troll fuse length today: 0.003mm
Dave,
September 25, 2008 - 23:11 ET by Indiana JoeThis one is... different, I think. Drop down and read his response below this. Seems kind of... bi-polar or something.
Or maybe just a disguise slipping. Track him, he doesn't seem too crazy... until now.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
IJ, I'm going to go with slipping disguise here.
September 25, 2008 - 23:17 ET by R D HelmLOL-After all, Ubercon started out seemingly reasonable as well.
Guess I am becoming too old a dog here at NB. :-)
-Dave
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them - Rick Roberts
My troll fuse length today: 0.003mm
Dave,
September 25, 2008 - 23:25 ET by Indiana JoeYeah, I get you. But the two-handed Bible thumping... that seems familiar. I'm thinking maybe an exile who got back in? Only 9 weeks old... not many posts. Or maybe had a secondary s/n ready?
Curiouser and curiouser.
It's late, have a good night.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
Night, IJ. The trolls here at NB have gotten so thick recently..
September 25, 2008 - 23:45 ET by R D Helm...that one could walk across this entire site without one's feet even touching the ground.
Time for a for-real house-cleaning, IYAM. :-)
-Dave
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them - Rick Roberts
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Acts 2:38 You are a liar
September 25, 2008 - 15:54 ET by Ozark_SunshineYou are a liar and deceiver and an anarchist. Lord have mercy on your soul for acting like you are a Christian. Isaiah 5:20 - Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil. You have been exposed as the Bible said you would be, so take your liberal lies and rants and run back to the mainstream media and fellow liars where you cowards can cower together. Spike Lee is nothing but a nothing wannabe who has no talent, just like Obama and most socialists.
WOW. That's a lot of hate
September 25, 2008 - 19:17 ET byWOW. That's a lot of hate coming from you my friend. Did I call anyone names? A deceiver and an ANARCHIST? What could I possibly have said that led your addled mind to the conclusion that I despise government? Did I in ANY way call Spike Lee, "GOOD"? I didn't even say that I thought any of his films were good, which I incidentally have. Then you want to go and bring the BIBLE into it? Over SPIKE LEE? Are you insane? You're a nut. I don't care whether or not Spike Lee is a nut as well, that isn't the point I was either refuting or making. Spike Lee's an arrogant jerk but then, I know him and I doubt that you do.
Reading is fundamental, unless you went to public school or something! THE LEVEES WERE ALREADY BLOWN UP BY THE GOVERNMENT! This is a FACT. STATING this AS a fact, in no way implies that I believe that the government blew the levees THIS time! What I said was that NOT including the info that the levees were blown BEFORE was just as BIASED A JOB of "reporting" as NOT delving into every stupid statement Lee has made EACH time he is interviewed on a NON-RELATED SUBJECT. Please excuse the caps but your reading comprehension is in doubt. Now since you had the temerity, the unmitigated gall, to involve the bible in this, and since you OBVIOUSLY follow the tenets of the Bible, have you received the Holy Ghost since YOU believed? As an "obvious" adherent to some type of FALSE DOCTRINE, you doubtless cannot even answer the question.Which is strange considering that the Lords Apostles thought it the first thing to ask ( Acts 19:1-6) Odds are nutjob like so full of bile and hatred goes to a FALSE church and aren't even BAPTIZED PROPERLY in the first place! The only Baptism recognized by Jesus Christ is in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST not the FALSE baptism of the FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST. And Since 90% of the so called Christian world which doesn't know any more about scripture than you do, uses this FALSE BAPTISM in error, it's a good bet that you're one of them too! Now this assessment of your error is based on the sheer STUPIDITY of your dragging the bible into a discussion about "SPIKE FRIGGIN LEE" and then of course the lovely way you called me a "deceiver AND and anarchist"! Something only the unlearned would say, since "deceiver" is a word that has "going to hell" built into it. But riddle me this oh, bible scholar that you surely are NOT, where is anyone in the bible, baptized like YOU? See, there's only ONE BAPTISM (Eph 4:5) and it's in the matchless NAME of JESUS CHRIST ( Acts 4:12, Acs 2:38, Acts 8:12-16, Acts 19:1-6). Most people who spout off at the mouth like you , don't understand that the command of Matt 28:19 was more understood to refer to Christs actual name, which is why the Apostles subsequently baptized thusly. Now here's the riddle, oh, bible wizard, if Jesus said that you're going to go to HELL unless you're BORN AGAIN ( John 3:1-8) and if Jesus listed as a component of that "new birth" water baptism AND if Jesus said that WITHOUT being baptized and PROPERLY receiving HIS SPIRIT you go to HELL what's your excuse for the fact that EVERYONE who received the spirit of Christ had an experience which you and most of your fellow false doctinaires REJECT? ( Acts 1:4-8 Acts 2:1-4, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 19:1-6) speaking in other tongues! AND if Jesus said that without being baptized properly you would be damned ( Mark 16:15-20) WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE?
See, instead of being a horses ass like you, I told you something not only was ON TOPIC but that will change your life. When you look up the aforementioned scriptures and realize that the building you thought was a church doesn't teach ANYTHING LIKE what's ACTUALLY in the bible, you can thank me then. If I gave you TEN THOUSAND dollars for everyone in the BIBLE BAPTIZED LIKE YOU in the "titles" of Father son and Holy Ghost INSTEAD OF THE NAME OF JESUS, I'd still have my money. Wise up. Now, all of the above assumes of course that you ARE part of the 90% that are baptized in ERROR! If perchance, you happened to somehow have been enlightened to the point that you actually understood the revelation of the NAME, then you really should be ashamed of yourself for bringing some kind of biblical argument into a discussion about Spike Lee. You should be equally as ashamed of calling me a deceiver, when I spoke nothing but truth as opposed to the lies you imparted to me.
Bias is Bias whether it's liberal OR conservative and whether Spike Lee is an IDIOT or not wasn't the subject. The subject was why the reporters didn't use an interview they were granted to AMBUSH a director about things he said TWO YEARS AGO when the current interview is about a DIFFERENT SUBJECT!
The mere fact that you even have a DESIRE, to have someone do this to Lee shows YOUR bias dude, duh! You don't like him, well, for the record, neither do I! And again, that wasn't the point, especially considering that the same network DID air his ludicrous theories on an APPROPRIATE PROGRAM!
Man you're sick, I keep reading where you called me (A) a liberal, when I am probably more conservative then you and then when you called me a COWARD knowing nothing about me. Read the scriptures. Change your life. Be born again. Peace.
Do what to Lee? Criticize him?
September 25, 2008 - 23:07 ET by Indiana JoeThat's a major disconnect you have going there. Your definition of the "subject" of the interview, the "hatred" of the blogger, the tearing into everyone here, assuming they are "racists," and "dim," and then surprise at the response, asking if you called anyone names?
You have serious problems. Get help. I'm not kidding.
Seriously.
"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall
welcome back keith
September 25, 2008 - 23:43 ET by candanceI was wondering when you'd get around to making another screen name. You hid your true colors for nine weeks, but you just couldn't keep that oneness mission to yourself could you?
Just a matter of time before this one gets banned too.
Nice bust, cd!
September 25, 2008 - 23:47 ET by R D Helm-Dave
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them - Rick Roberts
My troll fuse length today: 0.003mm
Really good one cd
September 25, 2008 - 23:59 ET by blooloonote the similiarity in the posts... I think you nailed it.
that was easy
September 26, 2008 - 00:12 ET by candanceKeith is burned into my memory after countless times he insulted my faith and attacked other NBers with profanity. I'd seen this new screen name floating around here but was waiting to see when the mask would come off.
Lasted nine weeks, he did. Gets an A for effort. Have to feel sorry for him, really. The oneness agenda drives people into obsession and they can't help themselves. It afflicts a dear uncle of mine to the point that we can barely speak.
The sooner NB iggies him, the better. It will only get worse.
Can-Can
September 26, 2008 - 14:51 ET by MrShyI was thinking Keith the whole time reading this thread, and especially the last one above. Yeah, that one is where he's revealing himself -- almost identical in look, feel and tone to those old posts (every 4-5 words in CAPS, etc..)
Keith, the actor from Hollywood, or whatever he is/was... still angry at just about everything and everyone.
NOW PLAYING:
Governor Palin Get Your Gun
Yea cd "keith"
September 26, 2008 - 00:16 ET by upcountrywaterSaving up for 9 weeks to give us NBers here a big BLOW-OUT...
westburo funnies.. 1:16
CLIMATE CRISIS
IranianUranium
Yeah - School Daze clearly defines "issues on race"
September 25, 2008 - 16:13 ET by antivenom.frhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtfEmTHeYNw
THIS is what Spike Lee's commentary on racism is all about...
Wannabes ~vs~ jigaboos...
I wonder "which" one classifies Spike?
HHHMMMMMMM???
Once again, an MSM outlet
September 25, 2008 - 16:26 ET by Chris NormanOnce again, an MSM outlet tries to sanitize an offensive person with offensive beliefs by dazzling the viewers with that person's halo of "Hollywood celebrity". They do this on Headline News' "Showbiz Tonight" on a regular basis to the point one wants to reach through the screen and throttle AJ Hammer and his merry band of celebrity worshipping dolts.
McNotObama '08
do the right thing
September 25, 2008 - 16:39 ET by Dagny TaggartAccording to that piece of trash movie, the right thing is to overrun a neighborhood, then torch it when the original inhabitants won't bow to your political demands.
Yeah, Spike Lee is sooo enlightened.
And by the way, Spike, Letters from Iwo Jima was about the Japanese experience, not the American.
Yo, Mars Blackmon here!
September 25, 2008 - 16:47 ET by TeddyYo, 'Professor' Weir! How hard are you and Spike Lee trying to make him relevant again?
Do you know, Do you know, Do you know, Do you know?
Spike
September 25, 2008 - 16:53 ET by well99Just a racist punk.He has no relevance any more that David Duke.Those two wallow in hatred.
Nature thins em out
September 25, 2008 - 18:19 ET by OhmingOK; You live in N.O. Therefore you live below sealevel. You also live near the ocean -- thats the great big blue thingee on the globe. This part of the ocean is prone to Hurricanes -- these are great big, way huge storms that bring lots and lots of water with wind too! Now, a few years ago, you looked pretty tough on that PBS special about "what if a hurricane hits N.O." Your state spent levee money on other things. As our technology showed you with many days notice on the TV, there is danger heading your way. Your officials and your arrogance were your enemies. Oh yea, the dikes are earthen, that means that they are made of earth (dirt), dirt moves easily when it gets wet. This is not the fault of Bush, sorry. There are 2 tragedies from N.O. 1. Innocent kids and elderly suffered. 2. People like Spike us this tragedy for their personal gain.