NYT's Tom Friedman on ABC: Slams McCain Energy Plan, Wants More Taxes

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Diane Sawyer ABC "Good Morning America" on Monday featured liberal New York Times columnist Tom Friedman as an energy expert to "fact check" John McCain's policies on the subject and advocate for higher taxes. GMA co-host Diane Sawyer never referred to Friedman's economic policies as liberal, despite the fact that he repeatedly made assertions such as this: "But, you know, there's really no effective plan to make us energy independent without what I call a price signal, without either a carbon tax or a gasoline tax that's really going to shape the market in a different way."

Sawyer began the segment by noting both candidates have plans for energy independence. She then asked, "Are they going to achieve it? Do they mean it?" However, the ABC host didn't ask Friedman to "fact check" Obama's plan. Instead she simply recited the Democrat's plans for eliminating Mid East Oil. And while Friedman freely attacked McCain's policies, he responded to a clip of Obama talking about investing more money into alternative energy by, again, complaining about a lack of gasoline tax: "Unless we have a floor onto the price of gasoline that really keeps that behavior going, you can't throw enough money at this problem."

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Later in the piece, Friedman reacted to a question about what he'd like to hear from politicians by citing Denmark as a country whose gas tax policy America should emulate. He enthused, "I'm looking for them to tell the truth, which is everywhere in the world, gasoline is taxed except us. You know, gasoline in Denmark is $10 a gallon."

The columnist and author of the new book ""Hot, Flat and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution and How it Can Renew America," also derided McCain's energy plan as "drill, drill, drill."

In Friedman's "fact check" of McCain's convention speech, he mentioned that the Arizona senator has missed several votes regarding a bill to extend wind and solar credits. However, although Obama made three votes on this issue, he missed the most recent. Friedman didn't bring up that fact.

At one point, before defending his call for a high gas tax as patriotic, Friedman revealed, "So, you know, a lot of times people say, 'Oh, you're for the gasoline tax. You're another tax and spend, you know, liberal.'" To sum up, despite calling for such a steep tax, despite mocking John McCain's plan to drill in the United States, the only labeling on ABC came when Friedman himself used the L-word.  

To be fair to Sawyer, she did at least question Friedman once on his demand for higher gas taxes: The ABC journalist queried, "Yeah, but you're about to be the most unpopular man in America. You really want to keep gas prices this high? And doesn't it hurt the people who can least afford it if you do?"

A transcript of the segment, which aired at 7:13am on September 8, follows:

DIANE SAWYER: Well, an anthem, a battle cry for this campaign from both candidates is energy independence. Are they going to achieve it? Do they mean it? Joining us now to fact check some of what they're saying is an author of a new book on the topic. It's called "Hot, Flat and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution and How it Can Renew America." And here is the author, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist of the New York Times, Tom Friedman. Good to see you, Tom.

ABC GRAPHIC: Energy & the Candidates: Do Their Plans Really Work?

TOM FRIEDMAN: Great to be here.

SAWYER: You have written in this book, we need to change leaders, not light bulbs. Have we done it? Is this a change in leadership with both of them now calling for energy independence?

FRIEDMAN: Well, not quite. Both have good plans on paper, although John McCain has really backed away, I think, a lot from his with his with his call for lifting of the gasoline tax during the summer and drill, drill, drill. But, you know, there's really no effective plan to make us energy independent without what I call a price signal, without either a carbon tax or a gasoline tax that's really going to shape the market in a different way.

SAWYER: Okay. I'm going to come back to that in a second, 'cause you have said this is the opportunity for America. If America really does want to compete against the Chinese and the Indians, this is the way to do it, through energy, green resources, green innovation.

FRIEDMAN: Well, in a world, that's hot, flat, that's a rising middle classes all over and crowded, more and more population, I'm sure of one thing, Diane, E.T., energy technology, is going to be the next I.T. It's going to the next great global industry. And the company that owns E.T., is gonna, I think, have the highest standard of living, the most innovative companies and the healthiest population, I want to make sure that's our country.

SAWYER: All right. Let's take a look at the two campaigns on the convention speeches. John McCain talked about nuclear power. He talked about clean coal and then this is what he said.

SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN: We'll increase the use of wind, tide, solar and natural gas. We'll encourage the development and the use of flex fuel, hybrid and electric automobiles.

SAWYER: Fact check?

FRIEDMAN: Well, you know, John McCain voted, actually didn't vote- In the Congress last year, there was a bill to extend the wind production, solar, tax credits into the future. These are vital to launch these industries. They subsidized wind and solar. Came up eight times in the senate, John McCain missed all eight votes.

SAWYER: You've actually called for another representative of big oil. Too tough?

FRIEDMAN: Oh, I don't think so. You know, given the fact that his mantra has been, "Drill, baby, drill" and has not been what I think it needs to be, "Invent, baby, invent." You know, Diane, there's a saying down in Texas that "If all you ever do is all you ever done, all you'll get is all you've ever got." And if all we ever do is drill, drill, drill, all we're ever going to get is, basically, chasing the oil price.

SAWYER: Yeah. It was surprising to hear at the convention this chant for drilling. Do we have that? Where they yelled, "Drill, baby, drill" over and over again.

SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN: We'll produce more energy at home. We will drill new wells offshore and we'll drill them now. We'll drill them now.

CROWD CHANTING: Drill, baby, drill. Drill, baby, drill.

SAWYER: But new drilling will add some, at least some to --

FRIEDMAN: Oh, about one percent to global demand, or global resources if we find anything. You know, Diane, I tried to imagine if there were Russian, Saudi or Iranian observers at that convention listening to them say "Drill, baby, drill" what would they have been doing? They'd have been up there high fiving each other. They'd have been leading that chant. "Yes, drill, baby, drill." Because that means, you, America, you're going to be focused on a 19th century oil, rather than giving birth to a 20th century industry that could threaten us, renewable energy.

SAWYER: All right. Let's talk about Barack Obama. Because he has talked about eliminating Mid East and Venezuelan oil in ten years. And he, too, talked about natural gas reserves. Clean coal, and he said this.

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA: And I'll invest $150 billion over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy. Wind power and solar power and the next generation of bio fuels.

FRIEDMAN: Oh, everybody wants to invest. Everybody wants to throw money at the problem. They think that's the answer. There's only one answer, Diane. And we've seen that in our own lives. What happened when gasoline went up to $4.50 a gallon? People changed their behavior. They bought different cars, they rode to work differently. Unless we have a floor onto the price of gasoline that really keeps that behavior going, you can't throw enough money at this problem.

SAWYER: Yeah, but you're about to be the most unpopular man in America. You really want to keep gas prices this high? And doesn't it hurt the people who can least afford it if you do?

FRIEDMAN: Well, the market's already doing it. The market's going to do that. We have to make this transition at some point. And do you want to be, really, dependent on Middle East oil leaders for the next decade? I sure don't. So, you know, a lot of times people say, "Oh, you're for the gasoline tax. You're another tax and spend, you know, liberal." I always say, let's get one thing straight, pal. We're both for a tax. I just happen to prefer my tax, not go to the Iranian, Saudi and Russian treasury. It's a quant little tic I have, Diane. I like my tax dollars to go to the U.S. treasury, to build U.S. schools, U.S. infrastructures, U.S. roads.

SAWYER: What about the corporate, the windfall profits tax, good idea?

FRIEDMAN: Well, you know, windfall profit taxes, you know, certainly oil companies should be taxed. But, at the end of the day, Diane, what's really going to cause this revolution, is when there is a price signal that says to every American company and every American consumer, it ain't going back, baby. And when you see that, you're go to see 100,000 innovators going into 100,000 garages and make 100, 000 new energy products.

SAWYER: So, what is it you're most looking for a candidate to say right now?

FRIEDMAN: I'm looking for them to tell the truth, which is everywhere in the world, gasoline is taxed except us. You know, gasoline in Denmark is $10 a gallon. And guess what, it's interesting, Diane, you know what the unemployment rate in Denmark is today? 1.6 percent. And you know where one out of every three wind turbines in the world are made? Little Denmark. Gosh, I wonder if there's a connection.

SAWYER: But if you keep gas prices at this level and if you do, as you say, assert, at least the need for alternative energies, how soon can it be broken? How soon, realistically, could we be energy independent?

FRIEDMAN: You know, no one can put a date on it. All I know, there's tremendous innovative power in this country, if you unleash that by creating a market, I think you'll see America be the leader in wind, the leader in solar very, very quickly. I want to us lead E.T., Diane. That's critical. Not China. Not Japan, not Europe.

SAWYER: All right. It's Tom Friedman. The book is "Hot, Flat and Crowded." And you can read excerpts at ABCNews.com. We're going to talk about more of the book later on coming up in coming weeks.

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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Friedman on additional gas taxes

Dems:    Tax, tax, tax.   That's all they know.

Don't we already have enough taxes on gas?

Now, they even want to tax the air we breathe.

Gore-anomics. 

 

greasing the skids (with a carbon tax on the grease)

Hmmm, two NB posts back-to-back noting two in the media (Schieffer, in the previous post and Friedman) advocating higher taxes. Are they trying to make it more palatable to us for when we learn about Obama's tax plan?

What's the difference between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin?
     One is eye candy while the other kills her own food.

FRIEDMAN: Well, the

FRIEDMAN: Well, the market's already doing it. The market's going to do that. 

It defies logic someone could be so ignorant of economics.  The market is responding to the Democrat's drilling ban, you constrain supply the price must increase.  Nor did you answer the question how it affects the poor, so basically it sucks to be them. They should get use to even lower standards of living because alternate energy is way more expensive than what we are paying now otherwise the Europeans would all now be driving electric and fuel cell cars at the current price of $9.50/gallon.

Oh and while we're telling the truth regarding Denmark, why is it you didn't reveal the truth of how alternative energy from wind power isn't delivering as promised after years the Danes tried to make it work?????  Oh, that's right, in your rose colored reality wind and solar are plentiful and affordable.

No, Friedman is not stupid, he is deceptive.

Of course Friedman is obfuscating on the necessity of more taxes since he is covering up the fiscal incompetence of the Dem Party, the drilling ban denied the US Treasury BILLIONS of DOLLARS of taxes and royalties because the oil had to be outsourced.  The taxpayer is expected to cover the cost of Democrat Incompetence! Now that's just hubris.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

Serious question: Has

Serious question: Has Thomas Friedman ever been right about anything???

I once posed that question to someone on another blog. They dutifully answered me later that day with a list. The list was a whole three items. All of which I was able to debunk in a matter of minutes. To this day, nobody else has answered my question. 

Increasing Hate For Palin

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

If I remember correctly, he

If I remember correctly, he predicted the Latin debt meltdown before it happened.  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE3DB1738F936A15752C0A963958260 Here's an opinion of his from 1995 where he is more lucid.  The bottom line, even a broken clock is right twice a day. In Friedman's case, make enough predictions, eventually one will be correct. 

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

If I remember correctly,

If I remember correctly, there were a lot of people predicting the very same thing at the time. So how much credit do you think I should give him, percentage wise? 

Increasing Hate For Palin

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

All to true, why would one

All to true, why would one look at a broken clock for the proper time when they could more reliably get the proper time from a working clock???  You know these liberals have such low self esteem issues, they latch onto anything to feel good about themselves or their ideology.  Since giving him a percentage would involve a subjective judgement, anything between Zero and 100% could essentially describe Friedman's chance of an original prediction come true I will defer to your judgement on that one.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

btw - please tell the

btw - please tell the Giovanni blog to at least give a warning on the pictures they post, that typical leftist blogger picture was as disturbing as that gadfly Helen Thomas.  Thankfully her picture hasn't been used in a while.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

The problem is that oil and it's derivatives are too cheap

None of the alternative fuels can compete with it in the marketplace. Oil is far and away the cheapest energy source there is. So instead of trying to get as much of it as we can domestically, the liberal's plan is to tax it into uncompetitiveness and subsidize their pet projects so they can compete. It's the single stupidest idea that they have and they seem to be hanging everything on it.

Right now the speculators are helping them by driving up the cost of oil way beyond any reasonable level. Partly because almost everyone has bought into the "peak oil" myth. They are expecting oil production to start to tail off any day now and have been for a number of years now. The problem is that the damned oil reservoirs seem to keep getting filled up from some mysterious source. According to their calculations in the 1980's Saudi Arabia ought to be almost dry (oil wise) by now, yet they keep increasing their out put with no end in sight.

Here's a clue...oil doesn't come from decaying ferns and dinosaurs. It's primarily abiotic and is constantly made in the deep mantle of the earth and other active planets. That's why hydrocarbons are spewing forth from a multitude of vents along the mid-ocean ridges and fueling ecosystems that are completely seperate from the sun and photosynthesis. Triton has more methane in liquid form than the Earth could use in 10,000 years. I do not believe that any dinosaur ever walked on Triton.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

I saw

this idiot this morning as I was getting ready for work.  My wife was getting worried because I was yelling at the TV.  Here is the classic gem of the interview:

SAWYER: But if you keep gas prices at this level and if you do, as you say, assert, at least the need for alternative energies, how soon can it be broken? How soon, realistically, could we be energy independent?

FRIEDMAN: You know, no one can put a date on it.

Don’t you just love it?  Liberals preemptively dismiss anyone who is pro drilling with the "we won’t see any new oil for 10 years" line and the liberal media interviewers always allow it to go unchallenged.  At the same time, the alternative energy crowd also says we "can’t put a date" on their pie in the sky ideas.  Again it goes unchallenged.

 

Fools like this would have us abandon oil completely while having no viable alternative ready.  This is the equivalent of removing the patient’s heart before the guy with the Igloo cooler has arrived at the operating room with the replacement. 

 

So this tells me we should drill anyway since, even 10 years sounds like a shorter time period than an undated plan.

 

Friedman continues the Dem

Friedman continues the Dem lie that forcing us to support economically unfeasible "alternative energy" is "investment".  If an investment doesn't make a profit, it's spending.  In the private sector, the causes the money to be redirected to where it does make a profit, but govt spending is not held to that standard.  The govt doesn't invest; it spends.

City slickers.

  City slickers always want a high gasoline tax.

  Why don't we put a high tax on taxicabs, $20 a ride. Watch city slickers freak out.

So If I understand this, we

So If I understand this, we need to subsidize wind and other alternative forms because they arnt self sustaining. Ok, I understand ..... I guess, and I thought we DID have a tax on gasoline. Isnt that the highway money shortfall we are seeing because people were driving less this summer because of the price of gasonline? So if we raise the tax higher and the price goes up people are going to drive less... so we need to raise the tax up to make up the shorfall

Why Snappy, you just gave

Why Snappy, you just gave an excellent analogy for the Bush Tax cuts (btw - expiring in 2010)...

For the liberal dolts I will lay it out in detail just so you can understand.  <in my most condescending voice possible as talking to 5 year olds>

The price of gas goes up, the amount collected by the gas tax goes down due to reduced consumption.  When the price of gas goes down, the amount collected by the gas tax goes up due to increased consumption.  Gas tax is based on gallons sold.

The Bush tax cuts work exactly the same way, the tax burden goes up, the amount collected by the income tax goes down due to reduced economic output.  When the tax burden goes down, the amount collected by the income tax goes up ($1 trillion/year) due to increased economic output.  Income tax is based on dollars made, i.e. GDP.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

dscott...

You may find this quote from a happy lefty, somewhat funny, I did....

"(the Republicans are guilty of the largest tax cuts ever)" 

As if it was  BAD thing. I'm hoping the person who wrote that has a non-government job.

Increasing Hate For Palin

 

 

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Friedman on Taxes

Here is a loser whom works for a loser paper that is sinking so fast he may not have a job soon.  Anyone would know if you raise taxes people will cut back on expenses such as the loser rag NYT subscriptions and advertising.  So Friedman is advocating for the final nail in the NYSlime coffin.

Europe has had high gas

Europe has had high gas prices and high gas taxes for decades. According to Friedman's logic, they should have invented a legitimate alternative to oil years ago. They haven't.

 

I think the Republicans

I think the Republicans need to keep it simple.

The Democrats want us peasants to travel from point "A" to point "B " by bicycle/train/ or bus.

They welcome  $10 a gallon gas prices and will even help the cause by instituting more tax on fossil fuel!

they won't support drilling. they won't support nuclear power.

they will institute this fraud carbon credit nonsense to ensure that their lives will not change.

do as I say not as I do is the democratic motto!

 

I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.

 

Energy Expert ? ? ?

Energy Expert ? ? ?

From Wikipedia - In 1975, Friedman received a bachelor of arts
in Mediterranean studies from Brandeis University,
where he first arrived as a transfer student in 1973. He then attended St
Antony's College
at the University of
Oxford
on a Marshall
scholarship
, earning an M.Phil. in
Middle Eastern studies.

Seems to me an energy expert might be required to know something about
energy not "Mediterranean studies".

Also from Wikipedia - Ann and Thomas Friedman live in Bethesda, Maryland, a suburb of Washington,
D.C.
The July 2006 issue of Washingtonian reported that they own
"a palatial 11,400-square-foot (1,060 m2) house, currently
valued at $9.3 million, on a 7½-acre parcel just blocks from I-495 and Bethesda
Country Club."

Maybe they mean "energy use expert."

A Democrat is someone who wants to put YOUR money where HIS mouth is.

Friedman

Tom Friedman has crossed that threshold only the most able reporters can pass. He has gone from interviewing experts in warfare, economics, climatology, geology, and political science to being the expert in these fields. Sawyer interviewed Friedman as the expert that wrote the book. His comments are laced with "I", not "He said" or "the experts say". I first noticed this some time ago when Friedman was a foreign policy expert and retired general. Reading about what we should do in the war against the jihadists, I thought for a moment it wasn't Friedman, but Kissinger. I give him credit, he is very intelligent and educated. He is entitled to his opinion. However, Professor Friedman could earn a rebuttal of his argument that links Danish prosperity, if true, with high gasoline taxes linked to windmill production linked to 1.6% unemployment. By the way, total employment for wind power in Denmark is less than 22,000 workers, out of a total workforce of 2,910,000. It seems a stretch to speak as though the wind power industry is even a major contributor to a low unemployment figure.  I think the professor is stretching his expertise.

exactly! Jaywl

see my post above yours. You crystalized what I was trying to say, rather than being a reporter, who interviews real experts in a field, he has annointed himself an expert! walah!

I beg anyone to answer this question!

Who made this guy Friedman an expert on anything?

They interview him as if his opinions mean something, as if he's an expert. He knows nothing about anything real, just about the world that the Times created...

Listening to him..it's like when I ask my 6 year old daughter to explain all the characters in her doll house....she is very sure about everyone and everything in it, but it isn't a real world!

This is Friedman explaining life according to the fanatsy of The Times...

I promise you this guy wouldn't last one day in a real job ...what a self consumed bloviator!

 

I don't care what her

I don't care what her political leanings are -- Diane Sawyer is a total LMILF (Liberal MILF)!

I sure hope this no-growth

I sure hope this no-growth Stalinist, Thomas Friedman, continues to spout his arrogant ignorance for public consumption through November.  Out-of-touch, economically illiterate snobs like Friedman will be a millstone around Obama's neck.  After he's killed Obama's campaign, he can piss off to Western Europe with the rest of the disproportionally smug socialists.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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