MSNBC's Scarborough Skewers the Moral Relativism of 'View' Crew

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On Tuesday's "Morning Joe," hosts Joe Scarborough and Willie Geist skewered the morally relative, anti-American comments made by the women of "The View" on last Friday's edition of the ABC program. As reported on NewsBusters, hosts Sherri Sheppard and Whoopi Goldberg assigned blame to a British schoolteacher who was being persecuted in the Sudan for naming a teddy bear Muhammad.

After playing a clip of the discussion, Scarborough disgustedly asked, "And I do wonder why these people who are so quick to defend extremism like this-- I do wonder if they have any idea what they are talking about, about these cultures that abuse women." Geist asserted that some violent societies aren't "worth understanding." That prompted Scarborough to retort, "Or if we do understand them, we'll understand how evil they are and they'll need to be neutralized. Possibly killed. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is."

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As noted by Justin McCarthy last week, "View" host Sheppard appeared surprised that the teacher, Gillian Gibbons, didn't "know the rules and customs." Goldberg attacked Americans for not being interested in learning other nation's traditions Both these comments led the normally relaxed Geist to remark, "I'm going to bite my tongue for a second...I'm going to think hard of something to say that will not get us thrown off the air." (Although not replayed on "Morning Joe," it should also be noted that, according to Goldberg, failing to learn customs is "just one of the reasons we’re called the ugly Americans.")

A transcript of the segment, which aired at 6:59am on December 4, follows:

JOE SCARBOROUGH: All right. So this "View" deal. Listen, I, I'm a uniter, not a divider.

WILLIE GEIST: You are.

SCARBOROUGH: I, I, I want everybody to get along. The women of "The View," you know, they got their issues, that's okay. We got our issues.

GEIST: Sure.

SCARBOROUGH: But, I just got to show you something they said yesterday. You know, the teacher that almost got killed because she let a seven-year-old name a teddy bear Muhammad?

GEIST: Yeah, in Sudan. She was this British school teacher, went there to help the kids.

SCARBOROUGH: People waving machetes and wanting to hack her into little pieces. Guess what side "The View" is on?

GEIST: I don't think there are two sides. So, I'll be interested to hear.

SCARBOROUGH: Okay. Yeah, let's hear this.

["View" clip]

SHERRI SHEPPARD: You know, you would think with her being in the Sudan, she would know the rules and customs.

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: I find that maybe we are not- and I say we just as European and American, we’re not as anxious to learn the customs before we go places.

SCARBOROUGH: Okay, so, Willie. There it is. It's our fault.

GEIST: I'm going to bite my tongue for a second.

SCARBOROUGH: Are you really?

GEIST: And I'm going to think hard of something to say that will not get us thrown off the air. So, we should understand that culture a little better? There's another case going on right now that involving Islamic law where a woman was sitting in a car with another man and she was raped by six men, and she received 40 lashes for sitting in a car with a man, a male friend. So, I'm not sure we should understand that.

SCARBOROUGH: And I do wonder why these people who are so quick to defend extremism like this-- I do wonder if they have any idea what they are talking about, about these cultures that abuse women. And like you said, if a man rapes as a woman, it's assumed to be the woman's fault, and you have people going around with machetes, because a seven-year-old boy named a bear Muhammad. Good lord, I just-- I don't understand.

GEIST: We've been hearing a lot of this since September 11th-- by the way, it's the top of the hour. It's seven o'clock-- since September 11th. We need to understand their culture. And in a lot of ways we do. We have a lot to learn about, and I think we have over the last few years about Muslim culture, Islamic religion. But there's a lot of it we don't need to understand. Sometimes there is a right and a wrong and stoning a woman to death for appearing outside or looking you in the eye, that's wrong any way you slice it.

SCARBOROUGH: Or, or cutting off a woman's hand, as the Taliban has done because she reads books because she wants to improve herself.

GEIST: Yeah.

SCARBOROUGH: It's absolute insanity. There are-- We do, we do need to understand the world around us better. Americans have been arrogant for years, thinking our culture is the only culture that matters, but there are some people out there that --

GEIST: Not worth understanding.

SCARBOROUGH: Or if we do understand them, we'll understand how evil they are and they'll need to be neutralized. Possibly killed. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is.

GEIST: It's an option.

SCARBOROUGH: It's like Nazi Germany. This is the same argument, people in 1939, saying we need to understand the Germans. We need to understand Mussolini in Italy. He makes the trains run on time. You know, we don't need to fight them. They are our allies, and look at those people. I need to understand that guy that wants to chop a woman's head off because a little kid in her class name aid teddy bear Muhammad? I'm sorry, I don't.

GEIST: No.

SCARBOROUGH: I don't.

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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It is obvious that these

It is obvious that these women don’t understand that if these societies have their way the members of The View would have difficulty spewing their daily inanity due to the severe separation of their heads from their bodies.

Now Whoopi, tell us what we have to “learn” about the customs of other places.

Speak up Whoopi, we can’t hear you.

Maybe it's cause I use

Maybe it's cause I use common sense and past experience when it comes to defending something...but for the life of me I can't understand how the ladies of the View would defend this kind of behavior. They would not be on a tv show in Sudan...they would be lucky to have parts of their face exposed.

So they defend people and government who treat their own GENDER as second class citizens. At this point I think only feminatzies could destroy Islam.

 

Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns

Goldberg attacked Americans

Goldberg attacked Americans for not being interested in learning other nation's traditions...

"The View's" Goldberg attacking Americans for other people's (or religion's) misbehavior is not unusual. These Anti-Americans are blaming us again, GWB and everyone else, instead of the Sudanese Government and its Islamic/Sharia law that's in place.

Plenty of real American journalists who wanted to show the world who are these people that want to kill the infidels, Jews and all non-Muslims so they can impose their Islamic laws, but curtailed by the leftoid media. Matter of fact, they even embraced these thugs and embolden them further that in return, they did more harm to America and its allies.

Unless the leftoid media condemn these peace-loving Jihadists and "educate" their TV audience, America will not know who we are fighting against. That's your job Goldberg, nah...let me just point you to Rush, Boortz, Savage, Hannity and get a real education! 

 

understanding enemies

understanding enemies doesn't mean you have to like them people

keep your friends close but your enemies closer:)

a broken clock...

a broken clock is correct twice a day

I guess this was one of Joe's twice-a-day moments. I'll take what I can get from the Old Media.

The scary part is he's been

The scary part is he's been correct a whole lot more since the "poll gate" with Mark Penn.

...looks like something lit a fire in old Joe.

Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns

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Great job, Joe. 

The values of certain of the women on the View are incomprehensible.  Instead of focusing on the barbarity and evil that constitutes justice and "discipline" in countries like the Sudan, they're finding fault with the "perpetrator" of a non-crime.

Funny, it's a man standing up for women (the teddy bear teacher, the rape victim, all women who live under these evil regimes) in this case.

Sharp Turn to the Right

I've noticed that Joe and Willie have recently taken more and more positions which would be a sharp turn to the right.

Is it possible they realize that left wing media does not pay the bills?

GNY... I have noticed and

GNY...

I have noticed and wondered that too.

I keep thinking Joe is going to revert back to his usual leftist water carrying but he hasn't seemed to be doing that so much anymore...what has it been now, at least a month of such?

Maybe they got a clue about getting a viewing audience, the people above must too or they wouldn't be doing this IMHO.

Oh well, one thing about it all...time will tell.

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Wait, Mr. Gat, so you're saying that equality for women is a position of the right?

Can we take out an ad to promote this?

I mentioned earlier he

I mentioned earlier he really has taken a turned since Mark Penn told him what polls should be on his show.

If he keeps this up he'll be out of a job at MSNBC.

Do you realize how much it costs to run for office? More than any honest man could afford. -Montgomery Burns

slowly liking Morning Joe..

You know, I'm slowly liking Morning Joe, compared to the short skirted women on Fox and Friends. There is more substance and seriousness to it.

http://justinok.blog...

also, jitumalu, the Morning Joe regulars

are willing to disagree with and take jabs at each other.  It's not high intellectualism, but better than the daily diet of boring and bland on Fox and Friends, which seems to be using the same template as the network morning shows. 

Now I'm thinking about Jackie

Meretsky's skirt. ;) Seriously, she's usually dressed modestly but well, IIRC, and I think she's always very-pretty. But Jackie's just un-naturally happy for any normal human being at that time of the morning, IMO.
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

It's a week old but ...

... still on topic, especially in response to "The View" knuckle-heads:

http://tammybruce.com/

Radio personality Tammy Bruce, former president of the Los Angles chapter of the National Organization for Women and past member of their board of directors, criticized the organization for not taking a stand.

“We have a duty to make a difference for women around the world,” Bruce told FOX News. “The supposed feminist establishment is refusing to take a position in this regard because they have no sensibility of what is right anymore. They're afraid of offending people. They are bound by political correctness.”

“The American feminist movement has not taken one stand to support the women of Iraq, the women of Afghanistan, the women of Iran,” she said. “It is the United States Marines who have been doing the feminist work by liberating women and children around the world.”

The above was Tammy Bruce's reaction to NOW's (and other supposed women's rights groups) silence and inaction regarding the struggles of women around the world, especially those in the Middle East ... and this was her reaction to the "Teddy Bear Teacher" story, and NOW's lack of voicing a strong opposing line against, at the time, the teacher's possible harsh treatment (sentence) of flogging.

 

Now (pun intended), who are you going to listen to?  A small group of women who sit around a table in a TV studio and haven't a clue on what they are talking about ... but just like to listen to themselves bitch and moan?  Or someone who actually sees a situation for the facts?

I'll give up my possible "View" appearance to Tammy Bruce ...

It's all too obvious

The problem is that we assume that the agendae of these groups are consistent with their stated goals. When they pick and chose when and against whom they will be outraged, you have to wonder what their real aims are.

The "View" pulllease. It may sound sexist (but knowing too many smart and clear thinking women, it isn't) they are the most insipid and inane panel on the tube today. With that blowhard Bill Maher and his faux balanced panel ridiculing what they clearly don't  understand coming in a close second. At least only insomniacs and those wishing to parrot his drivel are subjected to his comedy wrapped in a cloak of commentary. When you wrap a pile of poo up in a joke, accuracy is irrelevent.

Good for Joe

Good for Joe. I've been dismayed about some of his moderation, for lack of a better term, since he moved to the morning slot, but things like this show his heart and mind are still in the right place and it's a welcome dose of clear thinking and common sense from MSNBC.

http://www.xanga.com/mikeknaj