MSNBC Graphic Smears O’Reilly: ‘Anchor’s Racist Comments’

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On Wednesday, a MSNBC graphic flat-out accused Bill O’Reilly of being a racist. It read: "Anchor’s Racist Comments" and there was no accompanying question mark to at least add the benefit of the doubt. During the 11am hour of "MSNBC News Live," anchor Contessa Brewer discussed a liberal group’s attack over O’Reilly's comments about eating at a black restaurant. A second graphic, below the host, did offer some slight uncertainty. It asked, "Anchor’s Racist Comments? Bill O’Reilly Comes Under Fire For Description of Black Restaurant."

Brewer discussed the issue with Paul Waldman of Media Matters and Republican strategist Joe Watkins. At one point, Watkins noted that both he and the host had previously been attacked by the liberal organization. Brewer defensively replied, "And, by the way, I'm not a conservative." The host appeared to be sympathetic to the idea O’Reilly’s comments, which originated on the September 19 edition of his radio show, had some sort of negative intention. She opened the segment by asserting the Fox News host is "now at the center of a heated debate about racist language."

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Someone at the cable network must have realized the declarative nature of the MSNBC graphic. About 20 minutes later, Brewer introduced another segment on the subject. The guests and conversation was largely the same, but the graphic behind Brewer now included a question mark. (The new graphic, complete with question mark, can be seen below.)

On Tuesday, NewsBusters noted that both MSNBC and CNN were piling on O’Reilly and discussing the issue of whether his comments were racist.

A transcript of the September 26 segment, which aired at 11:09am, follows:

[MSNBC graphic behind Contessa Brewer: "Anchor’s Racist Comments"]

[MSNBC graphic at bottom of screen: "Anchor’s Racist Comments? Bill O’Reilly Comes Under Fire For Description of Black Restaurant]

Contessa Brewer: "Well, in the battle over what’s okay to say, conservative talk show host Bill O’Reilly now at the center of a heated debate about racist language. Here's what happened. O’Reilly told a story about eating lunch at Sylvia's restaurant in Harlem, in New York City on his radio show. He was making a point that there would be less racism in America if all white people could see what he saw at the restaurant."

Bill O’Reilly: "–Ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

Brewer: "Well, that raised some eyebrows. What really got some people's blood up was when he said this."

O’Reilly: "There wasn't one person in Slyvia’s who was screaming, ‘M-Fer, I want more iced tea.’"

Brewer: "After a liberal media watchdog group brought attention to O’Reilly’s comments, O’Reilly hit back, saying his comments were against racism and claiming he's the target of a, quote, ‘liberal smear campaign.’ Paul Waldman is a senior fellow for Media Matters for America and Joe Watkins is a Republican strategist and MSNBC political analyst. I guess, Paul, let me talk with you. Why did you think this warranted extra criticism?"

Paul Waldman: "Well, let me explain what we do at Media Matters. You know, Bill O’Reilly says we're smearing him and that we're taking things out of context when he says something like this, we put it up on our website with the full audio since this was from his radio show of the entire segment, the transcript so people can judge for themselves. I think it's not too surprising that a lot of people were offended, and that's why it's getting so much attention."

Brewer: "Yeah–"

Joe Watkins (Republican strategist): "That's not the full story, Contessa. The full story is that when they monitor not everybody in the media, they monitor people in the media who come from the right. And in this case they didn’t, they of course did include the full transcript of what he said, but the initial article and the initial statements that he made, that he made which were taken out of context were what they went with as a headline to try to make it appear as if Bill O’Reilly is a racist."

Brewer: "But are you saying to me, I mean, I get that Bill O’Reilly was trying to make a point here that if you walk a mile in other people's shoes maybe you'd have more understanding between people. But when he said he couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's, a black-run restaurants and other white-run restaurants, are you saying there's no reason there to feel, like, ‘Why would that surprise you?’"

Watkins: "Well, initially I was offended when I read those remarks out of context. When I read them by themselves, I said, ‘How is it that anybody in 2007 could suppose that any restaurant, whether it's white run or black run, would be successful if the people didn't do a good job of running it?’ And so I thought to myself, ‘How could Bill O’Reilly make a statement like that?’ But then I read the whole article. I read the whole interview and listened to it. I listened to what he said, and what– The point he was trying to make was, to his white, predominantly white audience was, ‘You know what? These are Americans, and Americans are the same without regard to color.’ That's a very, very good and positive statement to make to America."

Brewer: "Paul, what do you make of that? Do you think that in terms of perhaps his inelegant speech that, really, his whole point should be taken as a positive?"

Waldman: "If you go to our website, MediaMatters.org, you can read and see and hear the entire thing. I think, we're not giving people enough credit to say that just because he was trying to make a larger point about how we're all the same underneath our skin, that that means there is nothing, there’s no reason that anyone should be offended or have-- raise their eyebrows at that statement. But let’s look at what Bill O’Reilly did. As soon as this came out, he attacked Media Matters. He called us names. He attacked CNN. He attacked NBC. Basically, he attacks anyone who wants to criticize him or even put up statements that he did."

Brewer: "And is that– Is that fair? I mean, they are– Like he said, you can go to Media Matters. You can see the whole statement. You can hear it for yourself. Is that fair?

Watkins: "It's fair, I suppose, for people to respond. You've been attacked on Media Matters. I've been attacked on Media Matters before."

Brewer: "And– And, by the way, I'm not a conservative. So, there you go."

Watkins: "There we go. There we go. But Media Matters is, is, is, is free to do what they do and they do a good job of letting the public know what they think people have said. But the reality is that it's not fair to try to smear somebody as a racist when they've made comments that I think bring us together."

Brewer: "Well, Joe, Paul, it’s an interesting discussion. Thank you both for participating. I appreciate it."

—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.


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the fact that the question

the fact that the question mark was put on the graphic the second time around shows that Newsbusters is getting to them. They know you're watching and will expose them.

Wow ...

Doing that without the question mark was simply outrageous. Nice job, NB.

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O'Reilly has a defammation

O'Reilly has a defammation case against MSNBC.

Hunting the big prize

This is not about racist comments. He did not make any racist comments. It's about bringing down a REAL BIG talker. The liberals will be really excited if they can get O'Reilly kicked off the air. They will be energized. They will go after Hannity, Limbaugh and Savage and push for their beloved so-called "fairness doctrine".

if only he would have made

if only he would have made sally field type SEXIST comments - he would have been just fine...live and learn Bill...

BOR is an achor now?

There go the pesky liberals confusing their supposed news outlets with an actual COMENTATOR. These people are annoying. BOR doesn't deliver the news. That is what the MSM is supposed to do, but don't.

How many more decks of 'race cards' are we going to have to see before the election?

The American Revolution Continued

Concerted Effort

This O'Reilly incident is just one more in the concerted effort (and they really aren't even trying to hide it) made by competitors to discredit FNC.  They obviously have the help of the lefty blogosphere and leading Democrat politicians.  Other examples are the refusal of the Dem Presidential candidates to debate on Fox, refusal of many Dems to even appear on FNC . . . . then there's the totally phony outrage over Murdoch's acquisition of the Dow Jones and the WSJ. 

These creeps can't compete in the free arena of ideas and services so they're giving their all to knee-cap their competition . . . . maybe they learned from the Clintons.

This is exactly like when

This is exactly like when the MSM does a feature on a church and they're heard to exclaim "there wasn't any craziness there, no 'let's go lynch some homo's" or anything like that typical haywseed inbred Walmart shopper stuff you'd expect...(hyuk) - a very rare church indeed..."

maybe they learned from the

maybe they learned from the Clintons.

Absolutly,

BTW Did anyone see this last night?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3036419

I thought it was ok up until the end when Neil Boortz said somthing to the effect, if you think you are doing Mike any good by supporting his bad behaviour you are doing him a big disservice. Everyone booed, very dissapointing I thought. Especially since Mike has (arguably reluctantly) taken responsibility for his actions. I am not a Vick fan, but I believe in second chances and opportunities to redeam ones self. The folks in the crowed, I guess are suggesting that dog fighting is good, or that he should not be prosecuted for his crimes? Stupid me, I thought they were going to cheer the thought.

Replying to myself

The tactics now being used at CNN and MSNBC, both of which are trailing badly in the cable news ratings, are very much like the Democrat machine used on GWB during the 2000 election situation and forever since.  Attack, attack, attack.  Truth be damned.  Say the big lie often enough and enough people will start to believe.  Also, very similar to the tactics employed by Josef Goebbels during the 1930's.  (now every lefty who reads this will say I am calling MSNBC, CNN and a lot of Dems NAZIS.  PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT.  I AM MERELY STATING THEY'VE USED SIMILAR TACTICS).  I'm just pointing out the deeds, not the political philosophy.

from

from discoverthenetworks.org

Established in May 2004, Media Matters for America is a "web-based, not-for-profit … progressive research and information center" seeking to "systematically monitor a cross-section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation." But in addition to "news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible," the organization's concept of "misinformation" includes anything that "forwards the conservative agenda." Thus political differences of opinion are often portrayed by Media Matters as lies or worse.

Media Matters' founder and CEO is David Brock. A reporter for the conservative magazine The American Spectator in the 1990s, Brock (in the aftermath of his biography of Hillary Clinton that brought disastrous reviews) engaged in a public self-denunciation, characterizing all his past writings critical of liberal figures as a confection of lies and slanders. In Brock's present judgment, the mainstream media have fallen under the sway of conservative ideology. He believes that conservatives have moved the mainstream media "to the right and therefore they've moved American politics to the right. … I wanted to create an institution [Media Matters] to combat what they're doing." 

Standing behind Brock was John Podesta, a former chief of staff in the Clinton administration and the head of the "progressive" Washington, DC think tank, the Center for American Progress. In 2004 Podesta provided Brock with office space for his fledgling enterprise. Soon after, Media Matters received over $2 million in seed donations from a roster of affluent donors including Leo Hindery Jr., a former cable magnate; Susie Tompkins Buell, a co-founder of the fashion company Esprit and a close ally of Senator Hillary Clinton; James Hormel, a San Francisco philanthropist who nearly served as ambassador to Luxembourg during the Clinton administration; Bren Simon, a Democratic activist and the wife of shopping-mall developer Mel Simon; and New York psychologist and philanthropist Gail Furman. Media Matters, which can accept tax-deductible contributions under section 501(c)(3) of the tax code, has also benefited from the patronage of Peter Lewis, chairman of Progressive Corporation and a longtime consort of leftist financier George Soros.

Media Matters has not always been forthcoming about its high-profile backers. In particular, the group has long labored to obscure any financial ties to George Soros. But in March 2003, the Cybercast News Service (CNS) detailed the copious links between Media Matters and several Soros "affiliates"—among them MoveOn.org, the Center for American Progress, and Peter Lewis. Confronted with this story, a spokesman for the organization explained that "Media Matters for America has never received funding directly from George Soros" (emphasis added), a transparent evasion.

Nor were groups cited by CNS the only connection between Media Matters and Soros. As investigative journalist Byron York has noted, another Soros affiliate that bankrolled Media Matters was the New Democratic Network. In addition, Soros is reported to be involved in the newly formed Democracy Alliance, a partnership of some 80 affluent financiers who each have vowed to contribute $1 million or more in order to build up an ideological infrastructure of leftist thinks tanks and advocacy groups. News reports list Media Matters as a main beneficiary of the Alliance's funding. By August of 2004, Media Matters' operating budget had already doubled to $4 million.

To summarize, Soros and his Open Society Institute pour millions of dollars into the coffers of MoveOn, the Center for American Progress, and Democracy Alliance. In turn, these organizations funnel some of that money to Media Matters.

Prior to founding Media Matters, David Brock met with a number of leading Democratic Party figures, including Senator Hillary Clinton, former Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota, and former Vice President Al Gore. Today, more than a few of the organization's roughly 30 staff members are Democratic operatives. Among these are Media Matters' chief communications strategist Dennis Yedwab, who is also the Director of Strategic Resources at Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Brock's personal assistant, Mandy Vlasz, is a Democratic pollster and a veteran consultant to Democratic campaigns, including the 2000 Gore/Lieberman campaign. Katie Barge, the Director of Research at Media Matters, formerly presided over opposition research for Senator John Edwards' unsuccessful 2004 presidential campaign.

In 2004 Media Matters reported that its website had elicited some 150,000 comments in its discussion forums and that over 22,000 subscribers had registered to receive its e-mail alerts. Brock has also become a regular feature on leftist radio stations like Air America.

A notable figure at Media Matters is senior fellow Eric Boehlert, who was among the most passionate defenders of University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian after the latter was accused of having been the North American leader of the terrorist organization Palestinian Islamic Jihad. In an article titled "The Prime-time Smearing of Sami Al-Arian," Boehlert charged that: "In the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, all four media giants, eagerly tapping into the country's mood of vengeance and fear, latched onto the Al-Arian story, fudging the facts and ignoring the most rudimentary tenets of journalism in their haste to better tell a sinister story about lurking Middle Eastern dangers here at home..."

When did O'Reilly become an

When did O'Reilly become an anchor?

It's a way for the MSM to

It's a way for the MSM to justify political comments from news "anchors".

O'reilly is a commentator NOT an anchor. A distinction the MSM does not make!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

O'Rielly himself has stated

O'Rielly himself has stated that many times, because the rest of the MSM likes to consider themselves anchor and offer only opinions they feel that BOR falls under their definition of an anchor

All the while, the msm(Lsm) gives a pass, Still, to

the womanizer rev. jackson, for his comments about hymietown. No, there is no bias, none at all. It must be that "Right wing conspiracy" that HRC keeps complaining about.

I deny that demolibs and the media are smart. (deny[ers] being in vogue today)

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Let's see...

Obama is not white enough

Bubba was the first black president

Byrd's white niggers

JDW

CFR: Chung, Riady, Hsia, Trie, Huang, Hsu, Paw... Who's looking?

 

What's wrong with this phrase...

"Well, in the battle over what’s okay to say..."

There should not be a 'battle' over what's ok to SAY!

First ammendment! If these Anti Americans can trash their own country whilt under the guise of 'journalism', then BOR can say whatever the hell he wants. I am sick and tired of this double standard.

Do You See What I See?
Truth Is an Offence
You Silence for Your Confidence
Do You Hear What I Hear?
Doors Are Slamming Shut
Limit Your Imagination, Keep You Where They must
Do You Feel What I Feel?
Bittering Distress
Who Decides What You Express
Do You Take What I Take?
Endurance Is the Word
Moving Back Instead of Forward Seems to Me Absurd

Doesn't Matter What You See?
Or into it What You Read
You Can Do it Your Own Way
If It's Done Just How I Say

Independence Limited
Freedom of Choice
Choice Is Mad for You My Friend
Freedom of Speech
Speech Is Words That They Will Bend
Freedom with Their Exception

Do You Fear What I Fear?
Living Properly
Truths to You Are Lies to Me
Do You Choose What I Choose?
More Alternives
Energy Derives from Both the plus and Negative
Do You Need What I Need?
Boundaries Overthrown
Look Inside to Each His Own
Do You Trust What I Trust?
Me, Myself and I
Penetrate the Smoke Screen I See Through the Selfishlie

Doesn't Matter What You See
Or into it What You Read
You Can Do it Your Own Way
If It's Done Just How I Say

Independence Limited
Freedom of Choice
Choice Is Mad for You My Friend
Freedom of Speech
Speech Is Words That They Will Bend
Freedom with Their Exception

Do You Know What I Know?
Your Money End Your Wealth
Your Silence Just to Hear Your Self
Do You Want What I Want?
Desire Not a Thing
I Hunger after Independence Lengthen Freedom's Ring

Doesn't Matter What You See
Or into it What You Read
You Can Do it Your Own Way
If It's Done Just How I Say

Independence Limited
Freedom of Choice
Choice Is Mad for You My Friend
Freedom of Speech
Speech Is Words That They Will Bend
Freedom no longer frees you

Doesn't Matter What You See
Or into it What You Read
You Can Do it Your Own Way
If It's Done Just How I Say

The American Revolution Continued

I quite listening to any of

I quit listening to any of them years ago, all they offer is their opinion of what they "think" you/they ment. I have to hear it for myself or else I do not put any stock into it. Seems Bill took the long way to make his point, very dangerous in these days. NB/and other sites have been a great discovery for me. I was starting to think all sanity was dissolving. I still fear for the folks that continue to be baited by the MSM, my own Father included. One of the sharpest people I know, thinks CNN is gospel. Quite honestly, it breaks my heart

There should not be a

There should not be a 'battle' over what's ok to SAY!

You're gay, right?

MSNBC

Most Stories Nothing But Crap

ROFL...good one, matt!

ROFL...good one, matt!

MSNBC Lies   MSNBC

MSNBC Lies

 

MSNBC Lies?

O'Reilly

Does anyone really think that a non-entity like Contessa Brewer can have any real effect on Bill O'Reilly?  Her claim to fame was being kicked of the Imus show by Don Imus, who called her fat.

O'Reilly has nothing to fear. That's because he did not say anything wrong.  It is a non scandal.

 

O'Reilly has nothing to


O'Reilly has nothing to fear. That's because he did not say anything wrong. It is a non scandal.
-allanf

I hope BOR doesn't fold and go on an "apology tour" to the altars of Jesse Jackson et al.

Update: Well, I just read that Al Sharpton is going to be on his show tonight and plans to question him. Hopefully Bill won't grovel.

Foolish Enough to Grovel

If Bill is foolish enough to grovel, he deserves to go off the air. The discussion was with Juan Williams. He does not need Sharptons approbation.  

Imus made the mistake of asking for Sharptons forgiveness.

I was trying to edit my

I was trying to edit my comment while you were replying to it.

Also in the ABC news article was a comment by a law professor from the University of Pennsylvania who "has studied and written on race relations."

And this supposedly makes her qualified to judge Mr. O'Reilly. She said:

O'Reilly "doesn't realize dinner can be a civilized affair and we do use table napkins",

(as if Bill had acted surprised that people were not eating with their fingers and using the tablecloths to wipe their mouths).

Disgusting.

 

Scott, Why defend

Scott,

Why defend O'Reilly? 

His comments were ignorant and indisputably racist.

"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship."

Um. Yeah.  Right.  Not racist at all.

Furthermore, the rest of his little speech about black people is so ridiculously condescending.

"I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the [Rev. Jesse] Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out. 'Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."

You have got to be kidding me with this crap. 

It's funny to me that you'll defend this type of rhetoric and then complain when people accuse Republicans of being racist.

Maybe you should stop defending racists and people will stop calling you racist.

(yawn)

(yawn)

"I think black Americans

O'REILLY: You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.

OH MY GOD!!

well behaved black people!  No way! 

Those rap videos have been lying to me this whole time?

Yawn?  Fine yawn about racism.  Defend racism.  Just don't cry when you get called a racist. 

Since you missed the point again . . . Simple & Plain

Since you missed the point (again),

I wasn't defending anything. I'm being bored byreading your comments.

And I thought the correct term was "African-America", not "black people"?

Why would someone that was

Why would someone that was born in America and whose ancestors have been here for hundreds of years be called an African-American?

They're just American.

Jesse Jackson said that the

Jesse Jackson said that the term should be "African-American", not "blacks", or "negroes" or "colored".

Why do you disagree with what he says?

Jackson uses the term

Jackson uses the term African American, without the hyphen. In other words, an African who is also an American? An American who is African? But obviously not a bit of each.

And Leon, as for O'Reilly's comment that he was surprised a black restaurant was just like any other, it is usually blacks who claim that they have their own "culture" and try to separate themselves out. Segregated dormitories for black students on campus have come about at the request of the BLACK students who want to be separate. Schools segregated by race or sex are taboo, unless some black psychologist decides that what black boys (oh, dear, did I just commit a major faux pas?) need is to be taught separately, by black men. Then it's OK.

rac·ism (rszm) n. 1.

rac·ism (rszm)

n.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Exactly TM.  He in no way

Exactly TM.  He in no way said that 'wow this restaurant is as 'GOOD' as white restaurants.'  Nor did he say that the restaurant was not below the standards of a white restaurant.  He merely commented on the similarities between the two.  I think we all know difference does not always mean one side is better than the other necessarily.  Plus, if you listened to the entire radio spot, you'd realize he was taken WAY out of context. 

His point, albeit slightly tragically heavy handed and blunt in its wording, was that, for all these rappers like Cam'ron and the like claiming that fearing cops, being loud, and using 'street' language is somehow an inheirent culture that blacks naturally are born with.  Utter crap.  Bill has tried, in DEFENSE of african americans no less, that this is NOT true.  That ignorance, criminal minded, and inheirent anger toward authority is somehow inborn to all african americans.  He was saying to the public that even though all we SEE and HEAR in media is this defense and even endorsement of those principles as being 'black culture,' that in reality, the world that the media is REALLY out of touch with, african americans are just like any other American, be they black, white, red, or any other color, race, religion, etc.

Listen to the whole

Listen to the whole discussion and you can see it is actually anti-racist.  The race mongers are out trying to capitalize on an out of context remark and it is not playing like they want.  Jackson, Sharpton, and the elite media seem to be the only ones who see color in America anymore. Once again the smear tactics of the left are trying to silence someone who kills them in ratings.  Even with the cute newreaders msnbc is a joke.

Well at least BOR didn't

Well at least BOR didn't comment on how good the fried chicken and chittlins was. I'll bet other patrons did.

Watermelon anyone?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM, If he did, you can be

MM,

If he did, you can be sure the headlines would read:

"Racist O'Reilly Surprised That African-American Food Is Good".

See Chris,

See Chris,

If a black comedian had told that joke to a black audience, it would have brought down the house. But I am sure I will take flak from someone (Leon?) about it. We are taking this "racisim" thing way too seriously. If we can't laugh at ourselves and our cultural differences what can we laugh at?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Fox Envy

It's just another sad case of Fox Envy by the last place MS-whatever.  They're just throwing spitballs at a battleship.

This is flat out unabashed editorializing posing as news . . . or, just another day with the MSM.

Racism

Noticing that 95% of illegal aliens are "Hispanic" makes you racist.

Noticing that African-Americans commit interracial-violent crime near fifty-times the rate of White Americans makes you racist.

Noticing that White women are the victim in 98% of all interracial sexual assaults makes you racist.

I'm not gonna play anymore!

but running a black cable tv

but running a black cable tv channel or an association to advance colored people does not make you racist - these are rules

seejay, truthmonger...

seejay, truthmonger... Thank you. You guys took the words right off of my fingertips.

About 49% of our nation's prison inmates are black, but blacks only account for 12% of our population. 

Damn white cops arresting all of the black people in this country.

jpatch, blacks continue to

jpatch, blacks continue to vote Democrat - and continue to end up in jail...

leave the plantation, black people - walk towards the Republican light:)!

What people fail to

What people fail to understand is that Bill O'Reilly is an entertainer like Ann Coulter. He's not a newscaster, therefore doesn't have to deal in facts.  When he says something like "even though it's run by blacks",   he's untouchable because he's the Magic Cracker and that's his opinion--so what!  Give the ol' white guy a break.

}}---> OK Blaster

OReilly is a commentator.  An opinion journalist.

If his words are truly out of line I expect Black Americans will rise up in righteous derision of him on the facts rather than the fabrications of the Lillies of the field at CNN.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

I got this figured out

I don't know if this issue is dead and people have moved on but I was thinking about this.

Several years ago when Eminem was still a new artist. I saw established black rappers that said they were surprised that Eminem was white and able to produce appealing music to them. That observation to me is the complete opposite and I never heard any commotion because of it. To use the backwards MSNBC logic, the black rappers would have to be racist in thinking whitey couldn't have come up with entertaining rap music -- that we bang pots and pans and grunt in discord.

Being caucasian, I wasn't offended then, nor am I now. I think white people are just as talented to surprise and entertain blacks as blacks are equally talented at running an appealing restaurant. To me, both comments are reflections at how similar we all are even in the midst of leading very different lives.

MSNBC needs to get a grip, they have enough problems of their own before they can start in on other people.  Pot.  Kettle.  Black.

"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote