Fineman Justifies Link Between Obama and Lincoln, Disproves It, Restates It

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Abraham LincolnIn a rapid fire display of flip-flopping that would make even the staunchest of liberals proud, Newsweek's Howard Fineman manages to change his opinion on the justification of an Obama-Lincoln connection three times in just under 900 words.

The random logic is hard to see through all the gooeyness behind the concept of such a ridiculous comparison in the first place, but once you wipe the screen, you'll be able to spot it clear as day.

Fineman starts by asking himself a few questions:

Is there any reason, other than the lean frame and knack for giving good speeches, to compare the two men? Is there any reason to see in Obama a Lincoln-like ability to unite a "house divided" in our perilous times? Is that even a fair question to ask or comparison to make?

While most of us would scoff at the notion, Fineman concludes otherwise:

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I feel justified in asking because Obama himself raised these questions when he launched his candidacy February a year ago in front of the Old State House in Springfield.

So, an Obama-Lincoln comparison is justified based on the fact that Obama referenced it himself? 

The piece starts to delve into an eerie reminiscing of that Obama speech in which Fineman ponders:

He didn't lay the Lincoln references on thick, but he didn't have to.  Even I could hear the historical echoes.

Feel free to break for any involuntary dry-heaving that occurs after reading those lines.  I know I did.

While Obama may not have been thick with the Lincoln references during this speech, he certainly has done so in the past.  As have his political allies, such as Al Gore, Ken Burns, the Chicago Tribune, and naturally, the Associated Press.

Moving forward, the next portion makes a statement that can be interpreted various ways (emphasis mine):

As Obama has said repeatedly, he is, by virtue of his own DNA, "the change we have been waiting for." He is, by that standard, the rightful heir to Lincoln's vision and hope.

By virtue of his own DNA?  Is this intended to imply that Obama's skin color makes him ‘the rightful heir to Lincoln's vision and hope?'  Or, perhaps that statement is making reference to the fact that some liberals believe Obama is the chosen one.  His DNA has been a gift that God has blessed us with at this time, to guide our country and ‘unite a "house divided" in our perilous times,' as Fineman puts it.

The notion that Obama is the end product of Lincoln's hope and vision is frightening.  Did Lincoln's vision include close ties to a preacher who hates America?  Did he hope that one day we would have a President who's wife had never been proud of her own country?  Did the Lincoln vision include a future President who launched his Senate career from the home of an unrepentant terrorist?

Shortly thereafter however, Fineman seems to regain control of his senses.  He appears to come to the realization that comparing Obama's history to that of Lincoln is just plain wrong, using such statements as:

Lincoln:  He had risen above ... the humblest beginnings imaginable...

Obama:  ...his trials are a lot less Malcolm X than Obama's autobiography has made it seem...  he had the support of well-connected and loving grandparents who saw that he had the best education available in the state of Hawaii.

Lincoln:  ...he was tested as perhaps no leader in America had ever been-by financial struggle, personal loss, public humiliation and political defeat.

Obama:   To skeptics, Obama is nothing more or less than a suburban prep-school graduate who did well at Columbia and Harvard, and who smoothly propelled himself upward...  what political adversity or long night of the soul has Obama faced?...  What have we learned about how Obama would handle a real crisis? Nothing...

Fineman has gone from justifiable comparison, to arguing staunchly that there is no comparison to be made.  While this appears to be a story with a happy ending, a moment of revelation and clarity rarely experienced by the left, it takes a tragic and final twist.  Fineman closes with:

So if he wins...  voters will have to hope that the lineage that traces back to Chicago is no mere coincidence, and that the echoes of Lincoln are credible enough to inspire us all.

We've gone from fairytale ending, to tragedy in one sentence. 

One has to wonder, does this mean that Fineman voted for the comparison, before he voted against it, in which he previously voted for it?  Somewhere, John Kerry is smiling.

By even making this comparison, Fineman reveals himself as a simple Obama mimic, repeating his own self-glorifying, albeit ridiculous comparisons to one of our nation's greatest President's

Photo Credit:  Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, LC-USP6-2415-A DLC

Abraham Lincoln, Sixteenth President of the United States


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You miss the point...

It isn't that "Obama referenced it himself" -

It is that "Obama himself raised the question" -  As in "The King himself" or "the Messiah himself."

This is no mere mortal we are fawning over here, RW. Come on, play by the new rules!

"Modern man is staggering and losing his balance because he is being pelted with little pieces of alleged fact which are native to the newspapers; and, if they turn out not to be facts, that is still more native to newspapers." -GKC

Lincoln:  ...he was tested

Lincoln:  ...he was tested as perhaps no leader in America had ever been-by financial struggle, personal loss, public humiliation and political defeat.

  Yes, Lincoln was tormented by the opportunists in the democrat party.  The party that was willing to give in to the Rebellion and allow the country be divided.  The democrats for their own political gain was ready to destroy the union.  hhmmm my, how some things never change.

    The democrats/media mocked Lincoln in the newspapers as a dunce and pictured him as an ape and accused him of being a warmonger who gave no thought to the War Dead and the widows he was responsible for.  Lincoln was forced to fight both the rebellion and the democrats who were trying to block his efforts.  George W is the actual person who is reliving the experiences of Lincoln.

  What's really noteworthy is that the modern day democrats still wish they were rid of the Southern States with their gun totin' flag wavin' ways.  Without the South the dems would have already created a European type liberal culture in America.

You have to do something first

Lincoln won a war before he was loved. He was barely tolerated in the beginning, and only was appreciated at the end. He spent his years in office, however, struggling against enormous odds, betrayed by those around him from time to time, and ridiculed beyond belief. He suffered the death of his son, the madness of his wife, and his own struggles with depression. Yet, he persisted through it all heroically, poetically, with a legendary sense of humor. He preseved a nation.

Obama has a nifty teleprompter.

Great Stuff!

That post was tremendous.  I laughed out loud!

Rusty

Think of what Lincoln could

Think of what Lincoln could have accomplished if only he'd had a teleprompter too.

Magnificent

KC:

Another perfect post - pretty much the alpha and the omega on this subject.

And it has a laugh out loud hilarious ending.

And We KnowThis Is True Because:

Is there any reason to see in Obama a Lincoln-like ability to unite a "house divided" in our perilous times?

And we know this is true because:

The One hangs with post-partisans like Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer.

The One hangs with post-patriots like Ayers, Dohrn and Pfleger.

The One hangs with post-racialists like Rev. Wright (OK, only hung for 20 years) and Michelle.

I'm sure I'm forgetting more examples of people The One has long associations with who will bring us together, if only to confiscate our bitter guns.

Feel free to add to the list.

wow ... newsweek really has sunk to new lows ..

it's becoming a magazine on par with "the weekly world news" ... some of the crap they come up with (starting with the severly slanted "conventional wisdom" section ... which seems to be written by harry reid) is pathetically trite and immature. their articles seem to be nothing more than a transcript of personal rants while passing a bong around than any real attempt of journalistic integrity.

what's next ... a "hitler was misunderstood" piece?

I think Fineman needs to put down the crack pipe.

Lincoln wasn't a con man.Pure and simple.Obama is. More simple more pure.He won't unite us.

This is why liberals piss me off.Why must they try to hoax us and deify Barack Obama. The guy is shady to say the least and Fineman wants to put up Barack's picture over his bed to protect him while he sleeps.

Is the guy really that much of a fool?

 

Victory in Iraq.

Liberals suck.

McCain for Preznint. 

I remember the "Clinton-Gore

I remember the "Clinton-Gore Suck-up Watch" of 1992.  In the New Republic, I think.  The fawning over Bill Clinton back then was bad enough.  Obama Adulation of 2008 surpasses the previous level of obsequious praise and seeks depths where no brown nose has gone before. 

Log cabin dandy

This is hilarious.  Putting bumbi in a log cabin would be like putting Abe in an airplane.  Only Abe would probably figure out how to land it, while bumbi would be crying in his bread crumbs.  Narcissistic psychopaths don't do their own work, that's what comrades are for.  But what the hell.  Give him an axe, drop him off in the Rockies and introduce the 'one' to Mr. and Mrs. Grizzly.   

"I have a bracelet too" ..Barak Obama, Political Psychopath

A Great Uniter? Hardly!

So now Obama is the new Lincoln and is being describe as a Great Uniter?

Not to disparage Lincoln in any way (He WAS a great man!), but I'd b very careful about comparing Obama to Lincoln and make claims that Obama has "a Lincoln-like ability to unite a ‘house divided’ in our perilous time."

Fineman may not be aware of this, but Lincoln came into office during a divided Congress (the union was still whole when he took office), and shortly thereafter lead the entire country into a Civil War in which over 600,000 people died. If starting a new civil war is Obama's idea of unity, I think we'd do a LOT better with someone else.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

What about integrity?

Abe Lincoln’s honesty was legendary.

Obama’s?  NOT

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

Ugh!

President Lincoln is rolling over in his grave and I'm going to throw up. Gag!

 

Color me irritated SQUARED, 0bama equating with Lincoln..

Lincoln ! Uno numero 1st. place  killer of Americans..

Most hated, First REPUBLICAN president. Oh yea liberater of  the slaves.

Hated so much he was Murdered.

Yup eXaclty like the massiah..

Do you agree with that thought, then the following won't make you twitch, not one little bit.

"NOW " endorcing 2 men OVER  Sarah, THE WOMAN

Cha- Cha- change, IS forever, at this late date..

Reading n' writing by candle light  OR... PUNAHOU

Lunches and snacks are not covered by tuition.

Ya think maybe they have a copy of Barries BC?

I drove by the ford's theatre earlier this year,  a real place.

coast to coast, it's an artbellian dreamland , fwk

CLIMATE CRISIS

 

IranianUranium

upc

Last time I went by the Ford Theatre, it was closed for renovation.

But I did go to Fort Jefferson in the Dry Tortuga's last year (home of Dr. Mudd...the unfortunate guy who fixed up the assasin).

Barack is disgusting.  There is no other word for him. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Hey Blonde

I was in D.C. Friday night and took the time to check out some of the memorials. Just so happens that one of them was the Lincoln Memorial. I got goose bumps. (Got em at Jefferson and tears at the Iwo Jima, WWII, and the new Pentagon Memorial.)

The only thing Barry's got in common with Lincoln is the fact that they were both lawyers. That's it. 

Any attempt by Barry to liken himself to Lincoln is simply another effort at building the Cult of Personality that is his sole claim to fame. Just as Stalin likened himself to Lenin, Barry attempts to envoke comparisions of greatness, thereby promoting the illusion that he himself is great. 

Sycophantic "journalists" such as the dipsh!t that wrote this piece are just Barry's propaganda mouthpieces. Unfortunately, once the idea takes root in an unsuspecting publics mind, it is nourished by the adoration that is spewed forth from the rest of the manufactured opinion outlets. I'm afraid the amount of truth it takes to dislodge this deceptive creation will be in short supply in the month to come.

I for one, will fight to the end. But unless a "surprise" takes place in the next 3 weeks Barry and Abe will have one other thing in common; The annuals of history will record them both as being POTUS. 

 

If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love youBut if you really make them think, they'll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

Back atcha, HKing

Your post has so much going on.

B. Hussein and his surrogates (and who is that fat little dark haired jerk who blathers and lies ad nauseum every day?) have me close to throwing heavy objects at the plasma monster.  Their propaganda is SOOOO over the top...as you say, they equate little Hussein to whatever and whomever they can....they keep throwing the spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks, ish!

I'd love to see the new memorials in D.C. 

It's about time for a trip there...well, unless we have some really ugly personalities in the W.H. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde, DO NOT

HURT THE PLASMA MONSTER!!

He will remember it and henceforth cause Tebow to become all fuzzy for the remainder of the season. :-}

 

If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love youBut if you really make them think, they'll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

Thank you HBK

The monster, and Timmy, also thank you.

Me too...can't afford another one, these days. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

You're welcome, Blonde.

Seeing as I'm a card carryin member of the Protect the Plasma Monsters from BHO Inspired Abuse, it was the least that I can do. ;-}

Oh, and from someone whose watched Pat White for 3+ years, I even think that that pocket Superman y'all got down there is sumthin to behold. 

I'll be unleashin the plasma monster on Sat. night to watch him take on LSU. 

 

 

If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love youBut if you really make them think, they'll hate you.

Don Marquis 1878-1937

I should have known

You were another football junkie!

Woo hoo! 

Plasma monsters rule.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Yea, Only a couple of blocks from the 2008 MRC Gala

I just drove by... Not much walking touring with mom.  no place to park.

The latest poll numbers in Hawaii is 8 to 1 for 0bama, beep blue monday.

CLIMATE CRISIS

IranianUranium

Huh?

Fineman starts by asking himself a few questions:

Is there any reason, other than the lean frame and knack for giving good speeches, to compare the two men? Is there any reason to see in Obama a Lincoln-like ability to unite a "house divided" in our perilous times? Is that even a fair question to ask or comparison to make?

The Civil War was inevitable.  To the Southern slave-states, the election of Lincoln was the last straw.  There wasn't anything within Lincoln's power to prevent secession.  

Lincoln had to lead the nation through its bloody Civil War to re-unite it.  His strengths lie in his genuine belief in restoration of the Union, and his persistence despite early reversals.  

Obama has no Civil War to deal with, and he's already thrown in the towel in Iraq despite the prospects for success.  He's credited with being an eloquent speaker, but has anything he's ever uttered even approach the insight, passion, and wisdom of the Gettysburg Address?

I think not.

 

 

 

Obama isn't worthy to have sharpened Lincoln's pencils.

'nuff said.

-Dave

If this nation is to be saved, it will be libertarian principles that save it.