Ten Years After September 11: Recalling the Outrageousness of the Hollywood Left
Ten years after the attacks of September 11, it’s worth recalling how the immediate reaction of some on the far Left was to blame the United States foreign policy for instigating the attacks, and how various Hollywood celebrities spent the remainder of the decade trashing the War on Terror and likening the United States to some sort of Nazi regime or police state. Some even promoted wild conspiracies that the United States government had participated in the attacks themselves, or was sheltering terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.
Here, culled from the MRC’s vast archives, are 25 blood-boiling quotes showcasing the Hollywood Left’s outrageous take on the War on Terror over the past ten years, with links to several videos:
“Am I angry? You bet I am. I am an American citizen, and my leaders have taken my money to fund mass murder. And now my friends have paid the price with their lives.
“Keep crying, Mr. Bush. Keep running to Omaha or wherever it is you go while others die, just as you ran during Vietnam while claiming to be ‘on duty’ in the Air National Guard. Nine boys from my high school died in that miserable war. And now you are asking for ‘unity’ so you can start another one? Do not insult me or my country like this!
“Yes, I, too, will be in church at noon today, on this national day of mourning. I will pray for you, and us, and the children of New York, and the children of this sad and ugly world .”
— Message posted by left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore on his Web site, September 14, 2001.
“We have been the cowards. Lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away, that’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, not cowardly.”
— ABC’s Bill Maher on Politically Incorrect, September 17, 2001.
“Where is the acknowledgment that this was not a ‘cowardly’ attack on ‘civilization’ or ‘liberty’ or ‘humanity’ or ‘the free world’ but an attack on the world’s self-proclaimed superpower, undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions? How many citizens are aware of the ongoing American bombing of Iraq? And if the word ‘cowardly’ is to be used, it might be more aptly applied to those who kill from beyond the range of retaliation, high in the sky, than to those willing to die themselves in order to kill others. In the matter of courage (a morally neutral virtue): whatever may be said of the perpetrators of Tuesday’s slaughter, they were not cowards.”
— Novelist and playwright Susan Sontag writing for the “Talk of the Town” section of the Sept. 24, 2001 New Yorker.
“I despise him [President George W. Bush]. I despise his administration and everything they stand for....There has to be a movement now to really oppose what he is proposing because it’s unconstitutional, it’s immoral and basically illegal....It is an embarrassing time to be an American. It really is. It’s humiliating.”
— Actress Jessica Lange at a September 25, 2002 press conference at an international film festival in San Sebastian, Spain where she was given a lifetime achievement award. Her remarks were shown in the U.S. on the syndicated show Inside Edition on October 4, 2002.
“This is a racist and imperialist war. The warmongers who stole the White House (you call them ‘hawks’, but I would never disparage such a fine bird) have hijacked a nation’s grief and turned it into a perpetual war on any non-white country they choose to describe as terrorist.”
— Former Cheers star Woody Harrelson in an op-ed headlined “I’m an American tired of American lies” published Oct. 17, 2002 in London’s The Guardian newspaper.
Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore: “What happened to the search for Osama bin Laden?...You don’t think they [the U.S. government] know where he is?”
Bob Costas (astonished): “You think they know where Osama bin Laden is and it’s hands off?”
Moore: “Absolutely, absolutely.”
Costas: “Why?”
Moore: “Because he’s funded by their friends in Saudi Arabia! He’s back living with his sponsors, his benefactors. Do you think that Osama bin Laden planned 9/11 from a cave in Afghanistan? I can’t get a cell signal from here to Queens! I mean, come on, let’s get real about this....I think the United States, I think our government knows where he is and I don’t think we’re going to be capturing him or killing him any time soon.”
— Exchange on HBO’s On the Record with Bob Costas, May 9, 2003.
“I wondered to myself during ‘Shock and Awe,’ I wondered which of the megaton bombs Jesus, our President’s personal savior, would have personally dropped on the sleeping families of Baghdad?”
— Actress Meryl Streep at a July 8, 2004 Kerry-Edwards fundraiser held at Radio City Music Hall, as quoted by the Boston Globe the next day.
“I worry that some people are entertained by the idea of this war. They don’t know anything about the Iraqis, but they’re angry and frustrated in their own lives. It’s like Germany, before Hitler took over. The economy was bad and people felt kicked around. They looked for a scapegoat. Now we’ve got a new bunch of Hitlers.”
— Singer Linda Ronstadt, as quoted by USA Today reporter Elysa Gardner in a November 17, 2004 profile.
“No matter what the greatest tyrant in the world, the greatest terrorist in the world, George W. Bush says, we’re here to tell you: Not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of the American people, millions support your revolution, support your ideas and we are expressing our solidarity with you.”
— Singer Harry Belafonte to Venezuela’s left-wing President Hugo Chavez during a televised rally on January 8, 2006 in a clip shown on FNC’s Hannity & Colmes the next day.
“Unless you are willing to accept torture as part of a normal American political lexicon, unless you are willing to accept that leaving the Geneva Convention is fine and dandy, if you accept the expression [expansion?] of wiretapping as business as usual, the only way to express this now is to embrace the difficult and perhaps embarrassing process of impeachment.”
— Actor Richard Dreyfuss in a February 16, 2006 speech at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.
“In my country, we seem to be sanctioning renditioning of innocent people without trial...put them in jail without telling anyone...and torture them out of suspicion of what we think they might do....This is exactly what [George] Orwell was talking about when he spoke of thought crimes.”
— Actor/left-wing activist Tim Robbins, who was in Athens, Greece, performing in a stage version of Orwell’s 1984, as quoted in a May 2, 2006 Agence-France Press dispatch.
“As a result of the [9/11] attack and the killing of nearly 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people in their countries....Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America.”
— Rosie O’Donnell on ABC’s The View, September 12, 2006.
“When they say the ‘terrorists want the Democrats to win,’ you say ‘are you insane? George Bush has been a terrorist’s wet dream.’ He inflames radical hatred against America and then runs on offering to protect us from it. It’s like a guy throwing shit on you and then selling you relief from the flies.”
— Bill Maher on his HBO program Real Time with Bill Maher November 3, 2006 offering his suggested “talking points” for Democratic candidates.
“You have two choices in life, Elisabeth. Faith or fear. Faith or fear, that’s your choice. You can walk through life believing in the goodness of the world or walk through life afraid of anyone who thinks different than you and trying to convert them to your way of thinking....Get away from the fear. Don’t fear the terrorists. They’re mothers and fathers.”
— Rosie O’Donnell to co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck on ABC’s The View, November 9, 2006.
Actor Zach Braff, NBC’s Scrubs: “You know America...my middle name is Israel. We’re both named after countries.... Do you think that you have any traits in common with the country that is your namesake?”
Actress America Ferrera, ABC’s Ugly Betty: “Well, you know, I mean, I guess I’m a free-spirited person and America’s supposedly the ‘land of the free,’ right? Or at least we will be in 2008.”
— Exchange during the “Spirit Awards” shown live on the Independent Film Channel, February 24, 2007.
“It is the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics for the World Trade Center Tower Seven, building seven, which collapsed in on itself — it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved...World Trade Center One and Two got hit by planes. Seven, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible.”
— Rosie O’Donnell discussing 9/11 on The View, March 29, 2007. [Watch the video on MRC-TV]
“I just want to say something: 655,000 Iraqi civilians are dead. Who are the terrorists?...If you were in Iraq, and the other country, the United States, the richest in the world, invaded your country and killed 655,000 of your citizens, what would you call us?”
— Co-host Rosie O’Donnell on ABC’s The View, May 17, 2007.
“Over the past six years we’ve had to add to the American picture: rendition, illegal wiretapping, voter suppression, no habeas corpus, the neglect of our great city New Orleans and the people, an attack on the Constitution and the loss of our best young men and women in a tragic war. And this is a song about things that shouldn’t happen here, happening here. And so right now we plan to do something about it — we plan to sing about it.”
— Bruce Springsteen introducing his song “Living in the Future” before a live concert on NBC’s Today, September 28, 2007.
“Let’s face it: If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no goddamned wars in the first place.”
— Actress Sally Field at the Emmy awards, September 16, 2007.
Author Laura Ingraham: “It’s a free country though, right?”
Co-host Whoopi Goldberg: “Well, it used to be. I used believe that it was, and then a lot of-”
Ingraham: “You don’t think that it’s a free country?”
Goldberg: “Not as free as it was when I was a kid.”...
Co-host Joy Behar: “Nobody was tapping into my phone when I was watching Howdy Doody.”
— Exchange on ABC’s The View, November 12, 2007.
“We’ve been redefined for seven years now as a war-mongering, far-right, intolerant nation who’s raping our own atmosphere and demonizing the poor and letting the banks rob us blind. I think if — any incremental move away from that would be a godsend. And I think Obama will, at the very least, put the brakes on this madness and in some ways heal it....I think the rest of the world, if they see that America elects a man of color, I think they’ll breathe a big sigh of relief and not think that we’re this war-mongering, rich white guy country.”
— Actor/comedian Richard Belzer on FNC’s Geraldo At Large, March 2, 2008.
“Is Cheney a goon? I don’t mean that to be like a smart ass, but he seems like he might be a goon....My feeling about Cheney — and also Bush, but especially Cheney — is that he just couldn’t care less about Americans. And the same is true of George Bush. And all they really want to do is somehow kiss up to the oil people....Is there any humanity in either of these guys?”
— CBS Late Show host David Letterman interviewing former White House press secretary Scott McClellan, June 11, 2008. [Watch the video on MRC-TV]
“The word, ‘zoo,’ is sort of elephant-speak for Guantanamo. They’re really, they are suffering and being tortured.”
— Actress Lily Tomlin at an animal-rights protest in Los Angeles, clip shown on NBC’s Today, December 4, 2008.
“We’ve lived through a nightmare...in the past eight years....We’re going through something that we haven’t gone through in my life. Foreign policy, domestic policy — driven to its breaking point. Everything got broken. And the philosophy that was at the base of the last administration has ruined many, many people’s lives. The deregulation, the idea of the unfettered, free market, the blind foreign policy. This was a very radical group of people who pushed things in a very radical direction, had great success at moving things in that direction, and we are suffering the consequences.”
— Singer Bruce Springsteen in an interview with producer Mark Hagen published January 18, 2009 in Britain’s The Observer.
“9/11? Inside job, plain and simple....I am talking about a massive neo-conservative government effort. It’s been in the works for over twenty years....One problem: How you going to put it into action? I mean, the American people are never going to go for shit like that, right? You’re damn straight. No, what you need is an event, an event that gets everyone’s heads turned around the right way. What you need is a new Pearl Harbor. That’s what they said they needed. You’re looking at a guy who went to 58 funerals in 26 days, I can tell you that is sure as shit what they got.”
— New York City firefighter “Franco Rivera,” played by Daniel Sunjata, on FX’s Rescue Me, April 14, 2009. [Watch the video on MRC-TV]
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Thanks for getting me all p'd
Submitted by rbosque on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:32am.
Thanks for getting me all p'd off Rich!
Oh well, is there any way we can deport this cavalcade of human debri? I'll pitch in.
It's interesting to me that
Submitted by amyshulk on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:48am.
It's interesting to me that clueless people who {mostly} make a living pretending to be someone else took what *used* to be healthy skepticism of our institutions to tear down those institutions so they {the left} could run the show.
Now, having poisoned the well, they do further damage by NOT speaking up when Pres. Obama does what they accused Pres. Bush of. This shows it wasn't sincere or heartfelt, just nakedly partisan. Disgusting.
They are like spoiled children, who take their ball and go home if they don't get to play "their" way.
Ronald Reagan
so amy, if the same Hollywood types that came out swinging
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 3:23pm.
today at Obama as they did at Bush/Cheney for carrying on an "unconstitutional, immoral and illegal war" then you would consider their points of view as credible?
Deal with the "what is"
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 4:01pm.
Deal with the "what is" rather than the "what if."
You're comparing apples to asparagus.
For instance: Bush got Congressional approval. Obama did NOT get Congressional approval.
Is this like the "Where were
Submitted by amyshulk on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 5:47pm.
Is this like the "Where were you on fiscal issues under Bush" question?
I've said repeatedly that while I've followed {mostly local} politics for years, I tuned out during Pres. Clinton because the scandal was *all* there was, and under Pres. Bush, who rose to the occasion and protected us after 9/11 {I shudder to think of "what if" if Gore had been Pres.!!!} because it was a daily grind of attack and deny of ideas/policies that would have averted/mitigated the financial crisis, and you want to talk what ifs and what should have beens?
Seriously? I'm awake now. I see the solution as a real possibility for the 2nd time in my life - I only hope they don't screw up and leave the door unlocked like Pres. Regan did!!!
Ronald Reagan
I couldn't read any more. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:59am.
. . .after Bill Maher's first comment. These are truly and irrevocably stupid people.
Micheal Moore also said -
Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:02pm.
"There is no terrorist threat."
I've said it before and I'll say it again
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:03pm.
Rosie O'Donnell may very well be the stupidest human being ever to come to full term. Her ignorance knows no bounds, it seems.
Yes she is
Submitted by tincan53 on Sat, 09/10/2011 - 12:41am.
"For the first time in history, fire melted steel." Ah I wonder where the steel girders came from to build the towers? From the ground in just the right size? Oh, she is sooo stupid. She also thinks that guns kill people, spoons made her fat and that pencils cause missed spelled words.
"I wonder where the steel
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 09/12/2011 - 9:40am.
"I wonder where the steel girders came from to build the towers?"
Oh, c'mon! Everyone knows that steel girders are raised on vast girder farms in Iowa!
/sarc
and these
Submitted by grammajane on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:09pm.
are people who are paid millions to entertain?? It is pathetic!!
This is why they're actors
Submitted by kata on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:09pm.
and not physicists, geologists, rocket scientists, doctors ...
Unless they are running for an elected position I don't give two figs about what they had to say.
Spin
Submitted by grammajane on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:17pm.
On this up-coming weekend of the 911 terrorist attacks, am wondering how these "stars" and the media will again take the opportunity to bash Bush and The Tea Party. Trumka, the union leader has already blamed Beck and Rush for all the hate happening now in America, since 911. And this guy is praised and friendly with obama/michele.
Streep
Submitted by PaleHorse on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:19pm.
I forgot about Streep's insane Jesus comment. That came from way out in left field. I think that gets my vote for most irritating and irrational.
Well done Rich Noyes . . note. Springsteen on rendition.
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:23pm.
The comments on the US policy of rendition always get to me. Without going into the well-known details, the policy of rendition which caught so much hate and vitriol directed towards the Bush administration, such as. .
. . truly could have been preempted had we had a national media interested in reporting the news - and a bit of investigative reporting. Bill Clinton, in the mid-90's, ordered the CIA to set up and begin renditions of captured suspected terrorists to foreign countries, as we had not place to bring them to legally in the US. The US, according to DCIA Gen. Hayden (he disclosed this not only in committee, but to Charlie Rose on TV) conducted slightly more renditions prior to 9/11 than after 9/11. One reason being that the Bush administration set up Gitmo, where finally, we had a place to bring them to where they could be under our control - not someone like Egypt.
When Springsteen made this statement in 2007, had he known, he could have said, "over the past 10-11 years. ."
Well, had he known that the program had begun under Bill Clinton, at Clinton's orders, Springsteen, like the rest of these fools, probably would have said nothing.
(;~> gary
PS - as Al Gore said in supporting the program, to President Clinton:
Just what do all of these dangerous and ill-informed folks have to say to Al, about that?
People see the light at different times/ at different degrees
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 5:17pm.
Whereas a Bruce Sprinsteen finds the rendition policy and torture totally out of the question being part of a Bill Clinton administration his eyes are open only when Attorney General Gonzalez embraces this barbaric practice.
Springsteen and other Hollywoodies find it incredulous that such nasty things happen under politicians (Clinton rendition programs in the 90's and Obama's today) because he voted for them.
The "Boss" is only halfway home if he closes his eyes when Attorney General Holder has not yet closed GITMO and Obama has not yet pressed congress to invalidate Military Commissions tribunals that are totally unconstitutional.
Guys like Springsteen are not so "boss" if they only see evil at the GOP camp.
Any administration that keeps people locked up for years without a trial are violating the 4th, 5th , 6th , 7th and 8th amendment to the Constitution simply because the Bill of Rights trumps the president and Congress. The BOR amended the Constitution and trumps articles preceding the BOR that the BOR addresses.
Like it or not the right to a trial must be afforded all "persons." Look up the BOR and it does not say citizens or Americans but refers to "persons, "any person," "the people."
In time of a declared war by congressional action non-citizens engaged in attacks against US forces may be subject to the jurisdiction of military tribunals. The BOR says nothing about extra legal military courts or tribunals.
Courts martial operate their trials under the Uniform Code of Miltary Conduct. Bush created military commissions which is like a Kings Court of the days of old where captives had no English law Habeas Corpus rights that have been part of US law since the founding. Bush set the stage for Obama or some one else to bring back the rule of the king. These kangaroo courts were called the "Star chamber." http://historymedren.about.com/od/lawlegalhistory/p/star_chamber.htm
Obama, we are told wants to extend that process to pull Americans off the street and jail them and throw away the key without giving them a trial.The Hollywood types aren't screaming about it.
We hear and watch the left wing news commentators describe Christians and the Tea Party as "terrorists." How many exploding shells labelled "right wing terrorists," "Tea Party kooks" and "TP thugs," must hit the American scene before the "Star Chamber" round ups begin?
The Patriot act claims to trump the Bill of Rights. Even if conservatives still believe it to be a "patriotic" law it is not. And that act could be used against patriots unpatriotically.
What is the Uniform Code of Military Conduct?
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 7:22pm.
Do you even know what you're talking about?
UpNorth
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 7:41pm.
These are laws written by the Department of Defense and specifically cover "code reds" at Rifle Security Company Windward, 2nd Platoon Bravo, Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba.
You can't handle the truth.
BK......
Submitted by QMCS on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:23pm.
Actually bk the point he is refering to is that it is called the "Uniform Code of Military Justice" UCMJ for short.
Also its not specifically to cover code reds or any other hollywood crap (and yes the gitmo murder did happen but probably not the way hollywood portrayed it), its simply laws that specifically apply to military personnel in any situaton that would be beyond civil law because the military is frequently beyond the scope of regular civilian jurisdiction (think Hazarding a Vessel, Mutiny, conduct unbecoming, oh yea my favorite, soliciting a prostitute whether its in violation of local law or not, and all sorts of other fun stuff) and the UCMJ is a hell of a lot more stringent than civil law
Peace im out
The classic psychiatric portrait of actors...
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:25pm.
...includes facets of attention-seeking borderline personality disorder, obsessive/compulsive disorder and/or bipolar disorder. Some profiles of celebrities also point to a below average to average intelligence, but this is not in the majority of presentations I have ever seen. This is NOT my summary - this has been delivered several times in several different psychiatric professional meetings on forensics and celebrity crimes.
You also see an entire community of parasites (from personal assistants to agents) who are dependent on actors, as well as the rabid celebrity-addicted halfwit fans who devote enormous amounts of time to irrelevancies coming from actors. It is essentially a self-enabling mass hysteria.
I reviewed some of the notes I made during a seminar a few years ago at APA, and one of the speakers talked about how detached celebrities are from reality primarily by choice. His points about actors and their enablers to two words: willful ignorance. Because the real world around them does not follow whatever script they may be filming or considering at the particular point, the facts don't matter to them. They derive their distorted reality directly from pages of a script in front of them, and they are too self-absorbed to notice otherwise.
Thank you Dr. Sam...
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:46pm.
...for a professional analysis. That’s good stuff to know.
My simple take comes from having a couple of older musicians as friends, they are great to be around – but every 5 minutes or so you have to complement them, less they develop an “inferiority complex” (lol)!
Thanks again for the clinical viewpoint.
- Grump :o)
Where are these people?
Submitted by telecaster on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:29pm.
Except for Maher's incessant babbling I haven't heard anything from the rest of these geniuses. Funny how criminal Bush was to them but now that Obama employs many of the same protocols and operations nary a peep. That's the whole deal about liberalism isn't it? Hypocritical, situational and absent any intellectual integrity whatsoever. Just great sound bites.
And this illustrates why I am
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:28pm.
And this illustrates why I am not fond of ignorant uber-libs...I barely tolerate intelligent uber-libs (an endangered species).
Hey Rich,
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:33pm.
thanks for getting me completely spun up on a perfectly good Friday. Now, sure as Michael Moore leaves a trail of crumbs a yard wide, I'll be kicking the dog when I get home tonight.
Not really...but I will fantasize about punting that stupid little always-yapping beagle next door into the next county.
Now put your blinders on
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:34pm.
And Obama continues to destroy America.
My vote for the most asinine comment…
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:37pm.
…Was Rosie’s proclamation , “It is the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel…”
What does that moron [benefit of the doubt alert here] think mankind has used to melt metals for the last few thousands of years… good intentions?
Not only was the statement proof of these pampered buffoons complete divorce from reality – It was an indictment on the public school system in the country.
- Grump :o)
Remember the stories of the steel milk crate?
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 1:09pm.
As I recall, some idiot Troofer burned a bunch of steel milk crates or something like it to "prove" the outlandish conspiracy theories.
Can't find a reference to it, but that video has to be somewhere.
I remember seeing the Popular Mechanics editor/writer who was debunking all of the conspiracy theories all over the media, but of course he never got the play that the paranoiac Troofers had.
Thank goodness I missed that one! ...
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 1:22pm.
... My head still hurts from Rosie's statement. I guess my problem is that I've never learned how to deal with really stupid (or overly self-indulgent) people... My frustration level just goes into overdrive.
Thanks again for your previously posted clinical analysis.
- Grump :o)
Truthers are the inevitable
Submitted by amyshulk on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 2:26pm.
Truthers are the inevitable result of the destruction of our institutions. My husband and son don't believe the official story either, and that concerns me.
Ronald Reagan
Sally Field supports
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:55pm.
Sally Field supports Bachmann?
Outrageousness of Hollywood?
Submitted by NVRAT on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 12:58pm.
Who really gives a Damn about Hollywood Actors and Producers. They are all imbeciles I can`t figure why people pay good money to watch anything coming out of Follywood, its nothing but a rehash of things produced 40 yrs ago. I guess that's why they are actors and not real humans.
Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.
If not our policies and actions
Submitted by Bill The Bold on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 1:28pm.
then why were people willing to kill themselves just to kill and hurt us?
It has always been understood and accepted by our nations top leaders that our actions, based on our self-interest, in the middle east create enemies. This is not liberal or conservative or unpatriotic, it is simple real-politic. The term used to describe the steady, unavoidable stream of attacks against American assets by terrorists was known as 'blow-back'. It was part of the game we play and could not be eliminated nor defeated in some sort of military action. the rule of engagement for both dems and repubs was to try and minimize it's impact. when, as they sometimes did, things got too hot, we would just pull back and try not to fan the flames with escalated retaliatory actions. Think of when we let the shah fall bc it was a lost cause, or when we packed up and left Lebanon after the barracks were blown up or when we backed Iraq to stop Iran or when we backed Iran to stop Iraq or how we supported the muhajadeen just bc they were fighting the soviets. or when we supported Pakistan bc we wanted to control Afghanistan etc. supporting a terrorist group on minute and then calling it our enemy the next is standard practice for us over there. it is also standard practice to defend, with all our military might, the house of Saud, Kuwait , Dubai, Bahrain and other oil kingdoms. we support and participate in the killing of any and all who dare to threaten those interests. The reasons we are attacked and were attacked on 9/11 were made plain and were not new. To state that our policies caused those attacks is plain truth.
Do you mean to imply that we do no wrong in the world and no one has a right to question our actions no less attack us. If they do, they are simply evil bc we are simply good.
Huh? Seems to me pulling back
Submitted by amyshulk on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 2:17pm.
Huh? Seems to me pulling back got us there just the same Bill. This is not logical to me. So my neighbor doesn't like me for personal/political/whatever reason, I should moderate what he dislikes? To a point, yes, I shouldn't be rude, I shouldn't block his driveway with my car, etc. but does he get to dictate my norms too???
Ronald Reagan
Do you not have a clue about Islam?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 4:38pm.
People were willing to kill themselves and hurt people IN THE NAME OF ISLAM!
You know how long Islam's been around? 1400+ years. That's what drove those people to do that to us, they yell allahu akbar right before they do whatever they will do. And for those in Rio Linda, that's nothing to do with Admiral Akbar in Star Wars Return of the Jedi. That's Arabic for "Allah is Great!" That's the religion of death.
I'll say it again, Islam is the religion of DEATH. They worship death. It's got nothing to do with what happened in Iran or whatever, though it plays a big part of their background.
That, Bill, is why we were attacked on 9/11. All the stuff you said was incidental compared to why we got attacked.
They attacked the WTC because it was a symbol of our economic strength. They attacked the Pentagon because it is the symbol of our military strength. They wanted to attack the Capitol(or the WH) because that is the symbol of the country's political strength before Todd Beamer and others, God rest their souls, brought down Flight 93 in Pennsylvania.
Don't you dare say it had to do with politics because that is a flat out LIE.
-Jon
"It has always been
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 4:48pm.
"It has always been understood and accepted by our nations top leaders that our actions, based on our self-interest, in the middle east create enemies."
No truth to that.
And no, no one has the right to crash planes into buildings murdering innocent civilians.
Hey Letterman. Bush has given more aid than any other US Pres
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 2:05pm.
David Letterman: “Is Cheney a goon? I don’t mean that to be like a smart ass, but he seems like he might be a goon....My feeling about Cheney — and also Bush, but especially Cheney — is that he just couldn’t care less about Americans. And the same is true of George Bush. And all they really want to do is somehow kiss up to the oil people....Is there any humanity in either of these guys?”
Perhaps Letterman, et. al., misses so much:
In October, 2008, at the President's Conference on International Development, as is often the case, praise for President Bush and his administration was in the air - for doing what? Doing the walk - not just the talk.
Sir Bob Geldof (Humanitarian activist - and Live 8 organizer):
"President Ellen Sirleaf Johnson, of Liberia (the first freely elected woman in Africa's history):
This article is more than self-explanatory. Many more like it, from all over the world - not much here in our MSM:
Wow! Quite the contrast. More humanity than any other president vs, "Is there any humanity in either of these guys?"
Too bad Hollywood and the MSM can't read and think.
(;~/ Gary
Why did I read these?
Submitted by nanabanana on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 2:53pm.
I was thinking of getting lunch. Guess I'll put it off a while longer - wouldn't want to choke and/or hurl right off. Oh, Grumpy - I have to agree with you, Rosie's thing about fire and steel. Good Grief!!
Nana,
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 3:32pm.
Thank you for the kind comment. Ever since I replied to Dr. Sam (above) I’ve been thinking about what it is about Rosie’s statement that irritates me more than the other twaddle shown in the article.
Turns out (I think) that the other statements are just vile and come from a liberal “group-think” mentality… I can handle vile – as a matter of fact I expect it from liberals.
On the other hand, Rosie’s statement is not overtly vile, but has undercurrents of blaming others for her own mental… well, let’s just call it a mental lack of prowess. OK, OK! … It’s actually the most idiotic thing ever mentioned on the airwaves!
Whew, feel better now! Thanks for letting me vent. Now I can go back to doing something useful… like trying to remember where I left my car keys.
- Grump :o)
Glad you're feeling better, Grumpy
Submitted by nanabanana on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 8:54pm.
Vent any time you need to. Hope you found your keys. :-)
Crazy Bill
Submitted by deadeyedan on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 4:41pm.
Bill Maher ought to have thought for a moment before gushing over the bravery of the terrorists. Think about it - how much courage does it take to build aircraft which they stole?
What does it take to erect tall buildings and, better still, to staff them with people of integrity, character and expertise the terrorists could never hope to emulate?
Our society had built up from scratch the culture necessary to create like no other.
Instead of trying to build something on a scale we Americans are capable of in order to compete, these guys just went about destroying what they envied.
That's not courage of any sort.
Liberalism - government of the people by the theories and for the ideologists
What's hilarious about those
Submitted by WhatTheHuh on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 5:07pm.
What's hilarious about those comments today is that Obama is doing everything they were criticizing Bush for doing back then (rendition, wire-tapping, an illegal war in Lybia). And nary a harsh word against their beloved Obama. It proves to me that these leftists are dishonest, stupid, or just plain hypocrites. The problem is that they make these statements in a bubble, with entertainment "journalists" who are more than willing to let them say anything they want. The reporters must agree with them to some extent because any informed, rational person would respond with "Are you nuts?" or simply "And what is your view on Obama doing the same things Bush did to protect us?" (I understand the above quotes were made years ago, but you still hear a lot of that thinking today from these idiots.)
How ignorant of Timmy Robbins
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 7:06pm.
How ignorant of Timmy Robbins to quote George Orwell.
Even though Orwell was a hard-core socialist, anything greater than a perfunctory perusal of his books and you can plainly see that he despised wealthy socialists, communists, abortion, and pornography (Keep the Aspidistra Flying).
That's everything Robbins stands for.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
David Letterman and Bill Maher
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 09/10/2011 - 1:36am.
These two goons that pose as comedians haven't been funny since 1985. Time to give it up and walk away to save face.