Network Double Standard: Obama’s TSA Gropers vs. Bush’s NSA Eavesdroppers
While the broadcast networks have generally empathized with the distress of airline passengers over the TSA’s new and intrusive airport searches, they have not — thus far, at least — gone so far as to impugn the Obama administration as launching a war against Americans’ civil liberties.
Indeed, NBC’s Matt Lauer on Monday even sympathized with TSA Administrator John Pistole: “I hate to even think of what happens if the government caves in on this, and relaxes these procedures, and someone manages to get something on board a plane and causes harm. Imagine the questions you'll be asked at that point.”
But that’s not the approach those networks took when it was the Bush administration taking steps to protect citizens against potential attack. Instead, as a 2006 analysis by the Media Research Center documented, the networks firmly aligned themselves with those who saw the Patriot Act and the electronic surveillance of international phone calls as a dire threat to civil liberties.
While some on the Left claimed the media were enthusiastic boosters of the Bush administration in the days after 9/11, our analysts found network reporters began to question the idea of a vigorous War on Terror within days of the attacks. During live coverage on September 13, 2001, ABC’s late Peter Jennings suggested the United States might no longer be a free country. "Much of the evidence now being obtained in this investigation is being obtained under something called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is pretty much equivalent, I think some people believe, to martial law," Jennings told former Clinton Justice Department official Eric Holder.
"As a result," Jennings wondered, "do you believe that civil liberties have effectively been suspended in the country?"
For the next five years, network reporters would return to the "endangered civil liberties" topic in a majority of their stories about the Patriot Act (56 out of 91 stories, or 62%). The networks presented fears about a police state as valid and reasonable, perhaps even an admirable early warning. On the July 4, 2003 CBS Evening News, fill-in anchor John Roberts claimed that "as Americans celebrate their independence today, concern is growing that civil liberties are threatened as never before by the Patriot Act." The following story by reporter Lee Cowan touted "an unlikely revolutionary, soft-spoken librarian Marilyn Sotirelis."
Ms. Sotirelis was celebrated for "quietly leading a charge against the U.S. Justice Department." Rather than cooperate with a possible request from the FBI for records pertaining to a valid terrorism investigation, Cowan saluted how some libraries were taking "drastic measures, shredding all their check-out records." He fawningly asked Sotirelis, "Do you feel like you’re on the front lines of defending democracy?" She replied, "In a way, yes. But librarians always are."
Out of 91 stories on the Patriot Act, only five noted that there have been no violations of civil liberties in the years since the law was enacted. Citing a Justice Department memo on the September 18, 2003 World News Tonight, Peter Jennings revealed that "the FBI has never used a provision of the law which gives it more power to obtain business records, including credit card statements and even library records, in terrorism investigations." So much for the "revolutionary" librarian "leading a charge" against the FBI.
And only NBC’s Pete Williams on September 10, 2003, told viewers that some of the supposedly controversial elements of the Patriot Act — including the provision for "delayed notification," where a warrant can be executed to search a home or business and the subject only told about it after the fact — were already legally-approved techniques for anti-drug and mob cases prior to the Patriot Act becoming law.
All of the networks favored experts, mostly lawyers or law professors, who disapproved of the Patriot Act. Of 23 soundbites from experts, 61 percent faulted the law as a threat to privacy rights. Of the 19 ordinary citizens who made it onto the network evening newscasts, all of them were critics like the librarian cited above, even though the networks’ own polls showed that the public largely approved of the Patriot Act.
In 2005, all three broadcast networks jumped on revelations in the New York Times that the National Security Agency (NSA) had been monitoring suspicious phone calls and e-mails to and from the United States. That first night, December 16, 2005, ABC’s World News Tonight began their broadcast with the words "Big Brother" beside a picture of President Bush; anchor Bob Woodruff teased, "Big Brother, the uproar over a secret presidential order giving the government unprecedented powers to spy on Americans."
CBS anchor Bob Schieffer began the Evening News by presenting the President as tilting toward criminality: "It is against the law to wiretap or eavesdrop on the conversations of Americans in this country without a warrant from a judge, but the New York Times says that is exactly what the President secretly ordered the National Security Agency to do in the months after 9/11."
The NSA program that the Times disclosed is aimed at uncovering plots similar to 9/11, where terrorist operatives were present in the United States weeks and months before the actual attack. The program only focused on calls in which one party was outside the U.S. As General Michael Hayden, director of the NSA when the program began, explained at a January 23, 2006 National Press Club speech: "This is hot pursuit of communications entering or leaving America involving someone we believe is associated with al-Qaeda."
The networks were far less interested in the program’s value to disrupting potential terror plots than stressing the hypothetical dangers to Americans’ privacy. Most stories stressed topics that troubled liberals: the potential for violating Americans’ civil liberties (64 stories, or 50% of the total) and questions about whether the President had exceeded his constitutional powers (38, or 30%). Relatively few stories (21, or 16%) discussed the value of the surveillance program in the overall War on Terror.
Network coverage, particularly during the first few days, portrayed the NSA revelations as a Bush administration scandal. In the seven days after the New York Times revealed its existence, the three networks ran a combined 23 stories about the NSA program, more than one story per night. Reporters portrayed the program as evidence of transgression, not an effort at protection. "Tonight, President Bush [is]...under fire for authorizing the National Security Agency to spy on Americans," CBS’s John Roberts claimed on the December 18, 2005 Evening News.
"The revelations about spying have overshadowed the President’s recent efforts to explain his Iraq strategy," ABC’s Martha Raddatz asserted on the December 19, 2005 World News Tonight, leaving aside the fact that it was the media who opted to focus on the NSA program and thus "overshadow" the other news. "You can expect the White House to continue to try and get the message out about Iraq," Raddatz told anchor Elizabeth Vargas, "but this spying story is not going away."
Most (59%) of the networks’ NSA stories cast the program as either legally dubious or outright illegal. On the December 19, 2005 World News Tonight, ABC’s Pierre Thomas cast the President as acting unlawfully: "The Constitution grants the President the powers of Commander-in-Chief, but scholars argue it says nothing about unbridled presidential power to eavesdrop."
While the networks presented the actual NSA program as of dubious legality, they had almost nothing to say about the legality of the leaks to the New York Times and USA Today that exposed the classified information. Just five network stories (4%) focused on the potential illegality of the leaks to the media, or the decisions of the two newspapers to publish government secrets.
Indeed, when network reporters mentioned the leak investigations, they portrayed it as part of an attack on the news media. "A federal probe of a New York Times report threatens to further chill the President’s relationship with the news media," CBS’s Joie Chen argued on the December 31, 2005 Evening News.
Apparently, the possible illegality of divulging government secrets to the New York Times did not trouble network reporters. But those same journalists seem to regard the government’s monitoring of overseas phone calls involving potentially dangerous terrorists as a great threat to the public — greater, presumably, than the danger posed by damaging the government’s anti-terrorism efforts by disclosing them to the world.
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"Groping/scanning for Obama"
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:48pm.
Yep - they're all getting in line to support their president on this one.
In the past era (the years following 9/11 that Rich is discussing) i always found it quite entertaining to remind the "angry ones," that Joe Biden was one of the original co-authors of the Patriot Act - mid 90's (American Sec Act, or something like that).
At the time a bi-partisan group of conservative and liberal members of congress joined together in blocking portions of the bill that they felt - at the time - went too far. Following 9/11, Sen. Biden, in committee hearings on passing the Patriot Act, introduced AG Aschroft as his "dear friend John," who had called him up following 9/11, and asked Biden if he'd pull out the old bill and dust off the provisions that were needed now. Biden expressed that he was so proud in that moment - and would hop to it.
A few months back at dinner with some professional friends (big Obama supporters - Bush haters - after praising Obama, the gal offered, "..and Biden too - I just love him."
I quizzed, "How'd you feel about the Patriot Act."
Yikes - did she vent her hate for Bush/Cheney on a dime.
I retorted, "You are aware that Biden is a proud sponsor, writer, and supporter of the Patriot Act - correcto?
They just hate it when I do that.
(;~> gary
I wonder if your professional
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:56pm.
I wonder if your professional group will love the new tax rates, courtesy of Obama and Dem controlled congress?
well
Submitted by GW on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 11:16am.
Since Biden said paying taxes was patriotic, they should be OK with paying more taxes. I'll even let them pay my taxes so they can show their extra patriotism!
The MSM Obamabots can spin all they want but
Submitted by no tingly legs on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:03pm.
the American public, despite how stupid they think we are, will NEVER buy groin massages and porno pics as a legitimate way of ensuring our security. Remember Janet Incompetano proclaiming "the system worked" when only a failed detonator prevented the underwear bomber from bringing down an airliner? As long as the libs want to treat a blue-haired 80 year old Granny from Dubuque as being just as likely as a 20 year old Saudi male on a student visa to blow up a plane, we've lost the war on terror (aka war on man-caused disasters).
Perhaps that's what the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:57pm.
Perhaps that's what the President meant by acting stupidly?
wiretappings
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:07pm.
I guess they'll never mention that the wiretappings were occurring with phone calls from overseas(particularly from terror countries like Iran, Yemen, and so forth) to this country and vice versa, not calls within the country.
And that bit about relaxing procedures, well, that's what happened in the case of the underwear would-be-bomber, they bypassed security for him and didn't check the no-fly list and ignored the calls from his father who was high level bank exec and placed desparate calls to the authorities.
And lest I forget, it was the media that was exposing high security information that compromised/jeopardized CIA agents who were dealing with terrorists on their own lands which gained the media nothing but helped the enemy.
So for all that, American citizens are getting groped and molested.
Thanks a lot for that. /s
-Jon
Good article, Rich. Thank
Submitted by stratman on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:10pm.
Good article, Rich. Thank you for presenting this revealing data.
Finally
Submitted by ebayer on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:23pm.
I'm shocked that it took this long for someone to point out the hypocrisy of the activists and journalists who are onboard with this program.
It just goes to show that all that BS yelling about the Patriot Act,was just an act .
And here's the money quote:
"The networks were far less interested in the program’s value to disrupting potential terror plots than stressing the hypothetical dangers to Americans’ privacy."
Reverse double standard
Submitted by Obviousman on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:26pm.
Your complaints against the new TSA rules are appreciated. Your Monday-morning justification of the Patriot Act excesses is not. Both violate civil liberties. Both show that a boot on your neck is a boot on your neck, regardless of whether it is a right boot or a left boot.
I fail to see how the TSA
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:38pm.
I fail to see how the TSA rules are a boot on your neck. No one is mandating you must fly therefore compliance with the rules is voluntary. Do the rules and methods need to be changed, most likely. But, how do the TSA rules violate civil liberties? Some liberties we give way to voluntarily in our lives. The Patriot Act excesses are exactly what?
I don't understand
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 10:23pm.
Why would you be so complacent about something like this?
You ask how the rules violate civil liberties, well, you get handled in a way that a doctor would be a little more graceful about during the patdowns.
Hell, the guy with the urine collection bag who was a bladder cancer survivor was treated more like an animal instead of shown ANY form of compassion and was made to mess himself as a result. He didn't give away his liberties to be humiliated like that, not to mention risking an infection of some sort.
The scanners leave little to the imagination and many doctors, especially those familiar with the operation and use of imaging machines like X-rays and etc, are saying they are a bad idea over the long term and who knows how they are affecting the operators who unlike those in a hospital who have extensive training for proper procedures seem to use them without a care in the world.
The excesses are being caused by this administration which we know they don't CARE one whit about the Constitution. THEY and many like them in Congress have said in so many words "THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT MATTER."
They keep using the excuse about the underwear bomber but keep conveniently ignoring the fact that the security was bypassed(including checking the no-fly list) and the urgent pleas of his father to warn Americans were ignored by this administration. so in essence, THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO THE PASSENGERS TODAY! The means were there to stop that guy from even setting one foot aboard the plane. To say "The system worked" is a lie. To say "the system failed" is not even close to correct. The most accurate thing to say about the Underwear Bomber is "The system was ignored."
Dan, all these things are totally unnecessary. I don't understand your continued use of the mantra "if you don't like it, you don't have to fly" which is the words of a phony in charge of the DHS. Flying is part of many people's business but even more so, the airlines are the ones that are providing a service that people are trying to make use of, but it's the federal government that has recently made people feel like nothing more than cattle. All these things have little to do with security but a helluvalot about control over people's lives, which has been the terrorists'(doesn't matter who they are) desire all along. In short, the TSA is doing EXACTLY what the terrorists want, and THEY HAVE WON!
We are not cattle. We are human beings who desire to stay free and we are fast losing that.
And it won't stop with the airports.
-Jon
So it violates the 4th
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 12:41am.
So it violates the 4th concerning unreasonable search and seizure? Flying is a voluntary activity as is driving a car. So we should use the same criteria as driving a car. And when you enter a secure building what are the allowable rules?
They are not groping everyone as people have the option of going through the scanners. Do you object to the search, to any search under any conditions? Or do you object to a seemingly mindless search by TSA agents?
If we were to have Israeli type security and they groped you after a lengthy interview, would you be ok with that then?
BTW are you a security expert?
I will admit the rules need to be changed to a more active profiling system, but the politics wont allow it. Perhaps after the first nuke goes off inside the USA. After all it took 911 to shake up the people and politicians to recognize the world is a big bad place.
So given the current climate what can we do and still stay secure. I don't fly anymore and will not if I can help it. I am looking to go to Europe soon and will most likely travel by boat.
not an expert but close
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:14am.
Where I work at, we have some security restrictions and certain rules that we follow regarding the security of the place. And it's a helluvalot more secure than the nonsense that is the TSA. We also have a few security consultants that we talk with regarding certain conditions and certain changes that we may or may not enact. One of them is a bit zealous about it, but even he's more reasonable than this nonsense that we see with the TSA.
In regards to your second paragraph, the people are going through the scanners believing that they will not be harmed by them. The groping, BY TSA'S OWN ADMISSION, is to force people to go through those scanners, but even then, some still get groped after going through them, so what's the point??
Israel security know who they are dealing with, that's the difference between here and there.
Ben Franklin's statement about giving up freedom for security has never been more true today.
And to answer your two questions: Do I object to the search under any conditions? Yes, I do. Because believe it or not, not everyone's a criminal. I object to the fact that they continue to use the underwear bomber as the reason for the search when the other methods already in place would have stopped him, had they been followed. That's the government failing, the same one that is enacting all these things that would not have stopped the underwear bomber because he was allowed a pass through security and the no-fly list not being checked.
To your second question: Do I object to a seemingly mindless search by the TSA? HELL YES! And given I've gone over this in previous posts, I'm not going to repeat myself here.
The current climate as you have mentioned is brought upon us by this farce of an administration. The American people are the victims here. The American people are made to be the criminals here.
And one last thing: The TSA has not been successful in preventing anything. I dare you to tell me how they were succesful.
-Jon
Do I object to the search
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:44am.
Do I object to the search under any conditions? Yes, I do.So if you were going to see the President of the USA or enter a highly secure military installation you object to a grope? Notice I did not qualify the conditions and for a reason. And one last thing: The TSA has not been successful in preventing anything. I dare you to tell me how they were successful. I don't think I ever said they were.
I agree that the USA needs to review its procedures and use profiling methods along with interrogation like Israeli's do. But, I don't think the American public is ready for that and I am not sure the methods would scale up for the USA.
So we can rant and rave all we want but will we get any better system tahn we have now? Probably not.
Obama needs TSA apologists
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 11:43pm.
I've seen a bunch of stories, and posts, about TSA employees, whining and moaning that they're afraid of angry airline customers who take issue with the fact that the TSA is groping, fondling and abusing them in public.
What, then? The TSA now wants us to feel SORRY for them?
Here's an open message to all TSA screeners: If being a TSA employee has ceased being a respectable job - then QUIT. But if you stay with the TSA and elect to make your living by groping nuns, 3-year olds and cancer patients, then don't expect any sympathy from the American people.
If groping people's genitals, buttocks and breasts makes you feel bad - then QUIT.
You say you're 'uncomfortable' when airline customers get mad at your groping, fondling and playing with their genitals. IMAGINE HOW THEY FEEL. Stop crying for pity from the people you're abusing and groping. For pity's sake - wake up and own up to what your'e doing! THEN QUIT!
And quit hiding behing the pathetic excuses:
'We're just doing our job.'
'We're just following orders.'
That's exactly what Hitler's Nazis said, right down to the soldiers who worked the levers in the gas chambers.
TSA - quit. You know what you're doing is wrong.
Here's a novel idea to stop terrorism attacks on airlines: Occam's Razor. The simplest solution is the correct one. For example:
Problem: Some cars squeak.
Smart Solution = Fix Squeaking cars.
Dumb solution = randomly stop all cars to check for squeaks.
TSA = DUMB.
Check the squeaky wheels (Muslim Terrorists) = SMART.
Leave innocent citizens alone = SMART.
Ignore all accusations of racial profiling = SMART.
If I may
Submitted by jdlybrand on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 5:13pm.
The point is media bias. It is what NB does. That should be obvious.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Full-body scans? Pat downs?
Submitted by krendler on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:39pm.
Full-body scans? Pat downs? Wire taps on overseas calls? Water-boarding?
I'm fine with all of it if it helps thwart the Islamic fanatics.
A very minor inconvenience compared to the incredible sacrifies being made daily by American servicemen and women.
People whine too much, often simply for the sake of whining. Perhaps life has gotten too easy.
Krendler, how about
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 5:25pm.
Krendler, how about strip-searches? Would you be OK with that?
Where do you draw the line?
Logically, just guessing here.
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 5:50pm.
Just guessing, but compared to having a bomb blow up next to you, a strip search is a walk in the park.
If we're going to use:".....compared to the incredible sacrifices being made daily by American servicemen and women" as the benchmark for complaining when it concerns losing any of our freedoms or rights, then we should all just pull our pants down, bend over, and say....."Thank you sir may I have another!"
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
If we're going to
Submitted by krendler on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 6:04pm.
If we're going to use:".....compared to the incredible sacrifices being made daily by American servicemen and women" as the benchmark for complaining when it concerns losing any of our freedoms or rights, then we should all just pull our pants down, bend over, and say....."Thank you sir may I have another!"Hyperbole. I don't feel I'm losing my rights walking through a scanner. Been doing it my entire life. Some of you guys sound like the libwits screaming that Bush/Cheney had destroyed America and our civil rights because overseas calls were being monitored.
Hyperbote indeed
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 12:50pm.
Not sure if you meant that you were engaging in hyperbole or if you were insinuating that I was.
Hyperbole - Exagerations to create emphasis or effect.
The sacrifices being made by our servicemen and women who are engaged in combat are incomparable. Almost any discomfort posed apon me is by definition...."a very minor inconvenience compared to the incredible sacrifices being made daily by American servicemen and women". I totally agree with you.
But your point is hyperbole. It creates such an exagerated standard to live up to. If I say taxes are too high, you could say.....Having to pay a little extra in taxes is a very minor inconvenience compared to the incredible....etc. And yes, paying extra taxes would an inconvenience when compared to what our military is going through when in combat! Everything would be!
Otherwise, I agree with your premiss. I have no problem going through scanners, even the nudie ones. I do object to intrusive pat downs when conducted in public. If those need to be done, at least have a screen or something handy to keep it private.
I'm not arguing against your point, only your impossible, exagerated, standard of comparison vis a vis military in combat.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
I think that's what we have
Submitted by krendler on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 6:01pm.
I think that's what we have at this point, strip searches (virtualized), and I'm more than fine with it, especially if - if I may be so politcially incorrect - I'm boarding a plane with a bunch of 20-30 something Muslims who've been forced to go through the same screening. I'm happy to do my very, very small part to make things more difficult for the bad guys.
Anyway, the really fun stuff ain't even here yet. Wait till one of these creeps manages to take down an airliner by blowing themseleves up with exposives crammed up their you-know-what. If you think having to take your shoes off is bad...
Sadly...
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 12:57pm.
The scenario you describe is what is going to have to happen before we start doing what we should have been doing all along, and that's aggressive profiling, if not total banning, of Muslim foreign nationals from flying into or through the United States.
If Muslim foreign nationals want the privledge of flying to our country, they need to clean up their mess and eliminate their terrorist problem. If there was a crazy domestic sect in the United States that was trying to blow up foreign airlines, we would have cleaned it up a long time ago, ourselves.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
The point is that we violate
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 7:34pm.
The point is that we violate random citizen's rights with invasive and unwarranted searches. The Left claims we violate Muslims rights by profiling. So it looks like someone's rights have to be violated - or so say the safety advocates. That being the case wouldn't it make more sense to "violate" the "rights" of the people who fit the profile of 100% of the airline terrorism instances in the last 10 years?
When 80-year-old men and 10-year-old Caucasian girls start bombing planes, I'd be happy to add those demographics to the profile list. I've said for years, that not only is political correctness irritating, it's actually dangerous.
It yanks my chain that the
Submitted by kangaroo on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 9:12pm.
It yanks my chain that the american public have to go through this bullcrap, and then the bloody mongral higher ups say they will give the burka wearin muslims a free pass to just get on any plane as you please. Doesn't that make you want to yell bloody murder, cause we are subjected to this crap because of the muslim shinanigans.
"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on"--Thomas Jefferson
So lets all wear Burkas. Hey
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 9:24pm.
So lets all wear Burkas. Hey just because I have a beard and a flat chest don't mean Im a guy.
LMAO Dan, Did you here
Submitted by kangaroo on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 9:55pm.
LMAO Dan,
Did you hear about the guy that turned up in just his undies today? The dolts made him put his clothes back on before they would examine him.
"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on"--Thomas Jefferson
It's pretty much profiling in
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 11/22/2010 - 9:38pm.
It's pretty much profiling in reverse. If you fit the description of a terrorist, we won't look at you twice. Might hurt a terrorists feelings and he'll blow up the plane twice instead of once.
"But that’s not the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 1:53am.
"But that’s not the approach those networks took when it was the Bush administration taking steps to protect citizens against potential attack." This illustrates the difference that is so important in this website. We can debate the merits or the drawbacks of body patdowns at the airports or of electronic eavesdropping. A case can be made for or against either. What matters here is how the media covers these issues - and, as usual, it's ""Bush - bad, Obama - good". There can be no denying that unless you stretch credulity to it's breaking pointI hadn't thought of it this
Submitted by wiwf on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 12:36pm.
I hadn't thought of it this way. This actually makes some sense!I will take an eavesdropper anytime...............
Submitted by Patriot II on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 12:45pm.
to a crotch groping, pervert or pedophile!!!!
hey, you just don't understand
Submitted by wizardjr on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 1:10pm.
The segment of America that thinks teaching five year olds about fisting couldn't possibly see anything wrong with publically humiliating citizens with naked sexual exposure alternating with sexual assault.... especially on children.
On the other hand, listening in to possible calls to terrorists overseas... why... why... THAT'S HORRIBLE. You've abrograted their civil rights. You know, those civil rights in our Constitution that we've somehow extended to foreign citizens in foreign countries.
This is NOT my America.