Barack Obama’s bumbling of Chicago’s bid for the 2016 Olympics is a test for the Washington press corps, the Weekly Standard’s Fred Barnes argues. Liberal reporters may refuse to see the controversy in Obama’s far-left agenda, but the President’s high-profile Olympic flub offers a non-ideological story of White House incompetence.
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Now is the time for the mainstream media to show it’s not totally in President Obama’s pocket. The Washington press corps will never fault Obama for pushing hyper-liberal policies in a moderate-to-conservative country. Ideological criticism by the press is reserved for Republican presidents.But the media is faced with three facts as a result of Obama’s embarrassing failure in Copenhagen. 1) The failure itself. 2) The incompetence. 3) The lack of persuasive ability. There’s nothing ideological about any of these items....
The issue here is one of incompetence. Somebody -- maybe more than one person -- didn’t scope out the inclinations of the IOC’s voting members adequately or utterly misread how a personal appearance by the American president would be received. Imagine if something like this occurred on a national security issue. Then the media would demand accountability. The Olympics issue is hardly as consequential, but that shouldn’t inhibit the press in seeking accountability....
The thriller in Copenhagen was not just a test of Obama. It’s a test of the media’s willingness to cover the president professionally and honestly when he stumbles. A love affair with a president should have its limits.




















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So it will go...
October 3, 2009 - 10:43 ET by slickwillie2001The Olympics flub is of no real consequence, but unfortunately the Bamster is headed for similar flubs with respect to Iran, Israel/palestine, Russia, Honduras, North Korea, and pretty much anything else he touches. The man has the reverse Midas touch in foreign affairs.
Yeah....
October 3, 2009 - 10:49 ET by StarAZI was thinking the same thing.
No, no, no...
October 3, 2009 - 11:12 ET by heldmywFred just doesn't realize that the Olympic Committee is inherently RAAACISSSST!
"high-profile Olympic flub
October 3, 2009 - 10:51 ET by notonmywatch"high-profile Olympic flub offers a non-ideological story of White House incompetence"
Their guy has had a hundred "Obooboos". He's had the nicknames "Obozo", and "Oh bummer" for good reasons.
He talks nonsense endlessly. If Bush had spoken so dumbly just once they'd have crucified the guy. He walked into a door which again for Bush would have been an impeachable offense
Anyone who says anything about this EPIC FAIL is simply marking themselves out as a non-leftist, so maybe Tapper is all. We'll see. Barnes optimistic yet again that it's not a simple leftist cabal. Oh Barnes.
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I find it interesting that
October 3, 2009 - 10:53 ET by Free StinkerI find it interesting that Obama is in fact as dumb as the MSM kept telling us (incorrectly) that Bush was.
The moral of the story, don't mangle the spoken word.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
The man has the reverse
October 3, 2009 - 10:56 ET by BKeyserGive him time, he can't be expected to handle each and every crisis dropped in his lap perfectly the first time. Besides, how 'bout we give him some credit- he's certainly got this unemployment thingy under control... /sarc
BKeyser
October 3, 2009 - 11:00 ET by Free StinkerI'm glad you added the /sarc
For a second there I thought to myself "Oh No! BKeyeser has gone nuts! What happened? He's usually so cogent!"
Phew! False alarm! ;-)
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
Ditto that Free...
October 3, 2009 - 11:49 ET by JPR1My jaw was going into free fall until I saw the switch.
BK, your graphic stuff is 24 karat. Keep it comming.
Obama in uncharted waters
October 3, 2009 - 18:33 ET by addeigloriamI think BHO was in the unfamiliar teritory of having to promote America rather than apologizing for her.
http://blog.addeiglo...
Change "the Bamster is
October 4, 2009 - 09:29 ET by Indiana JoeChange "the Bamster is headed for..." to "the Bamster has already had..." and I agree 100%.
"Four legs good... two legs better!" - George Orwell
The Olympic bid isn't the
October 3, 2009 - 11:20 ET by dscottThe Olympic bid isn't the first time in 9 months that Obama's charasmatic rhetoric didn't work. Let's see, the Europeans refused to spend billions to go into debt as he was doing in the US. The Israeli's refused to stop building. The Iranians are still running their centrifuges to enrich uranium. The Russians aren't halting their support of the Iranians. The Chinese aren't agreeing to sanctions on Iran if they won't stop enriching uranium. The Dear Leader of the DPRK is still building nuclear bombs and has shown no sign of stopping. The UN is not stepping up to the plate on the DPRK as Obama asked. Then Domestically, the average person is not buying into the Public Option despite 24/7 MSM coverage. The Senate won't be passing Cap & Trade so he had the EPA do it for them.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Obama's incompetance to
October 3, 2009 - 11:25 ET by MidAmericaObama's incompetance to be President is becoming painfully obvious even to those who support him. Obama is still just a community organizer. He does not know how to govern or pass legislation. It's breathtaking. We have a President with so little experience that he can't learn on the job because he lacks knowledge and aptitude for the fundamentals to do his job.
Item 2)...
October 3, 2009 - 12:04 ET by JPR1The incompetence.
98% of this administrations efforts at anything seems to reflect amateur status. How they could not have anaylized the possible outcomes here and not clearly seen the downside is mind boggling. The simple fact that South America has never hosted tipped the scales heavily. And to believe the IOC comitee members were unaware of the seemer aspects of Chicago politics is naive folly. The only smart move would have been to send a diplomat or let it ride altogether. But noooo.
President Ishtar
October 3, 2009 - 12:31 ET by AgentAmericanBarack H. Obama is officially a box-office flop, a draft-bust, and flawed new car...
Ishtar/Heaven's Gate/Gigli/Speed Racer
Ryan Leaf/Jeff George/Sam Perkins
Edsel/any Yugo/any Renault
Awake the sleeping giant...and that giant is WE THE PEOPLE!
Obama's limitations
October 3, 2009 - 12:47 ET by KC MulvilleDisputes are natural and inevitable. When people of different points of view meet together, it's normal that their different perspectives lead them to have differences over how the group should proceed. How does a group, then, make a collective decision? There are two basic methods:
On just about every issue, the Obama approach is to try to explain why opponents are wrong. The Obama Gang clams they're evil, or stooges of special interests, or they're being manipulated by lies, etc. But the Obama Gang refuses to grasp that other perspectives are legitimate. They've portrayed all opposition as villains to their heroic efforts. They feel that once they've explained their position, others should V8-slap their foreheads and get in line.
Obama's a one-trick pony. His only trick it to cast aspersions on opponents' point of view. He shows little sign of addressing their legitimate concerns. (OK, in his speech before Congress, he offered to consider tort reform. Gee, thanks.) He offers nothing in return. He expects others to drop their own perspective for his, with nothing in return.
Usually, young people think they're right, and that all they have to do is explain it to others. What teaches you to respect other points of view as legitimate? Experience. But that's what Obama lacks. And he's showing his immaturity constantly.
That's why he loses votes.
What teaches you to respect
October 3, 2009 - 14:08 ET by Dan The Man 2What teaches you to respect other points of view as legitimate?
I dont think that others respect diametrically opposed views as legitimate but that they realize some concessions are required to achieve the ends. The trick is not to concede on your core beliefs.
Respect
October 3, 2009 - 15:26 ET by KC MulvillePerhaps. But most problems that rise to the level of presidential decisions are ones where two or more legitimate values are in conflict. The choice is not merely concession from opponents; it's also how to address their legitimate concerns.
One example is the interrogation method debate. We have two legitimate values in conflict; the need to get information to save lives, against our commitment not to torture. On both sides, we face uncertainty. Is "harsh interrogation" really torture? Does the information we get actually mean anything if it's given under duress? And all the other questions involved ...
Obama played the issue, as he always does, as one side is right and the other side is wrong. Harsh interrogation was deemed torture, our repuration for being "nice" was threatened, and so they dismissed and ignored the need to get information on the enemy. In all the public debate, the Obama Gang never acknowledged the legitimacy of the argument that these were terrorists. They just branded the Bush crew as criminal torturers and stopped the practice. Not only did they disrespect the Bush crew's decisions, they decided to re-prosecute interrogators based on liberal suspicions of criminal behavior.
It's his only tactic. He doesn't engage the opposition honestly, with respect. He just dismisses and disparages them. That's his only political skill.
KC,
October 4, 2009 - 09:34 ET by Indiana JoeYour (very cogent, btw) explanation applies not only to Obama as to policy, but to liberals in general. Witness their definition of "bipartisan" on an "actions speak louder than words" basis.
"Four legs good... two legs better!" - George Orwell
Olympics miscalculation
October 3, 2009 - 13:03 ET by ridge_sThe story in the MSM before Friday was that Chicago was in a close race with Rio for the 2016 Olympic Games. After the Big O gave his pitch, it dropped to fourth place. Chicago might have won if he had stayed home and kept his mouth shut. He may have a devoted following of Kool-aid drinkers here in the US of A, but overseas, he's just another two-bit politician.
To h**l with change, I want improvement.
Olympic Failure
October 3, 2009 - 13:32 ET by Ten7sObama's failure is one of the largest, most needless, self-inflicted political wounds EVER. So far, this Olympic Failure is the most symbolic event of Obama's presidency. Obama has had more important failures, to be sure, but the MSM, aka Obama's PR Firm, have been able to cover for him.
Will the press corp explore it? Probably not. Can they w/ the MSM whitewash it? Nope.
Olympics
October 3, 2009 - 15:58 ET by Sergeant ROCKObama believed his own hype.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
→ Poor guy
October 3, 2009 - 16:01 ET by Cool ArrowHe spoke, and the waters did not recede.
Parting the waters..
October 3, 2009 - 16:22 ET by Sergeant ROCKIt's not oBama's fault.. his followers did not believe strongly enough in his power.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Olympics
October 3, 2009 - 15:59 ET by Sergeant ROCKObama believed his own hype.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
this may be Obama
October 3, 2009 - 13:33 ET by criticalthinkingthis may be Obama derangment syndrome at its absolute most extreme. You blithering idiots seem convinved that giving Rio the olympics was somehow the comittiee making a political statement on Obama and his politics. The man took a shoot, and it didn't work out. Its too bad, but its far far far from shameful. Sometimes i read on this website about false equivocy. nothing could be a more prime examble then say one president is a putz becuase he made a strong bid for the olypics and didnt get it, while the previouse president sleep walked into the dumbest war of the 20th or 21st cetnruy.
BY THE WAY, A HISTORY LESSON: Far left agenda is communism, or socialism, socialism of course being when the state controls means of production, and communism being when the prolatariot controls the means of production. Far Right politics in this case, would be complete free market, no taxes (which if you are smart enough, you realize borders on stateless anarchy). Someone who says why don't we have a free market, but tax to have a strong state (ie bridges, armies, public schools so are kids can compete) and also provides for a saftey net so the poor in the country have a place to sleep and a breakfast bar to eat THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO, ERGO, I USE THE WORD CENTRIST WHICH REFLECTS SOMETHING IN THE CENTER OF TWO POLLS.
learn about it
Crit, its really not the
October 3, 2009 - 14:11 ET by Dan The Man 2Crit, its really not the Olympic gamble we base Duh One's incompetence on; its the totality of his short tenure and what he is doing to the USA. The Olympic fiasco was more like see one of teh stooges slip on a banana, it was funny and in this case satisfying to see teh chink in his ego.
Bingo!
October 3, 2009 - 14:55 ET by Forest for the TreesBingo!
Criticalthinking is not what you're doing.
October 3, 2009 - 14:24 ET by CobraManExcuse me if I don't care about your contemptuous blathering about OUR contemptuous treatment over Obama. I, for one, am not receptive to any argument that begins by insulting the intended subject of that argument, especially when you include ME as an intended subject.
BY THE WAY, if you wish to make a valid argument, you should refrain from using terms like "blithering idiots" in which to describe the people you disagree with. That's not a discription, that's an insult, therefor your post is not intended as an argument, it's intended as a lecture.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
um...i noticed that you
October 3, 2009 - 15:07 ET by criticalthinkingum...i noticed that you could not respond to my argument. I agree, i wish to avoid fighting words. sometimes i tough though, because these views not only stike me as incredibly stupid, but also ardently believed by those who have them...i simply don't understand how any inteligent person from the right or left could hammer a president because he made a strong bid for the olimpics and in the end didn't get them...how any one could view this as a comment on his political abilities, his stature in the world, or his skills.
so..
October 3, 2009 - 15:09 ET by katainkent'blithering idiots' is what you call your close friends?
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What argument?
October 4, 2009 - 21:52 ET by CobraManWhat argument can you make when you call people a blithering idiot? it's obvious that you didn't want to debate, you wanted to demean.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
You don't care to debate, you care to demean
October 4, 2009 - 22:04 ET by CobraManYou don't care about debate. It's obvious that you feel that you are far superior, that you're a far more "intelligent person" than anyone else here. All you wish to do is project your own feelings of superiority over us.
If you WERE interested in actual debate, you'd realize that an "intelligent' person would question why the president waited until just before the voting in order to voice support for his home town and why he felt it was necessary to both send the First Lady and then himself in order to voice his support, especially after he AND the First Lady made SEVERAL trips to Europe over the last 9 months.
A lot of "intelligent" people would question his motives about this. Some may even express their displeasure that any President would do this in the way Obama has. But I guess we're not "intelligent" enough to voice our displeasure, right? I guess we're just "blithering idiots," correct?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
critical (yeah right :p) thinker
October 3, 2009 - 14:33 ET by MrShy"Far Right politics in this case, would be complete free market, no taxes"
There is not a single far-right winger out there who advocates no taxes nor a "complete" free market, if you mean with zero regulation and zero government involvement. All SERIOUS conservatives want to pay for national security and infrastructure, and that's about it (although I'm missing a couple, I'm sure.)
If you can find one example of a far-right ideologue who's expressed this, please share.
Conversely, YES, you've got the far-left agenda correct, as I know, personally, many who are far-left radicals and love to ask, "What's so bad about socialism?"
EDIT: Btw, your writing and spelling absolutely stinks. Cleanliness is next to Godliness, so the saying goes. You assume we're all idiots, but you prove it with your writing.
i agree with you, generally
October 3, 2009 - 15:12 ET by criticalthinkingi agree with you, generally speaking, although i strongly believe that things like public school falls under public infrastructure, and I believe that they should be heavily funded and be some of the best public learning institutions in the world...i see this as key to competetion in later generations...
but again, since we agree, I am waiting for a REASONED responce for why Obama is a far left politican. (please save the right wing platituted, i've read them enough on conservative blogs!) If we've established a far right, and a far left, and now we take someone who supports captiolism, but raises taxes a tad (and this is an imortant factual point, that even if he does raise taxes, it will at the most be one or two percentage points for one or two percent of the population) but this person also wished to establish a social saftey net to help out the lowest of lows perhaps at the expense of the highest of the highs, THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TWO POLITICAL THEORYS! If anything, its still hedges harder to the right
→ Critical
October 3, 2009 - 15:23 ET by Cool ArrowFine and dandy on the Public School Funding thing. But it's the duty of the individual States.
The problems seep in as States accept Federal funding under condition of surrendering curriculum to such ignorant causes as "Queering Elementary Education"
Cool -->
October 3, 2009 - 16:10 ET by MrShyIs there really such a cause/program they're trying to push? Please tell me you're joking. :p
Shy you mean to tell me
October 3, 2009 - 16:31 ET by Dan The Man 2Shy you mean to tell me there is a concerted effort to push religion out of teh public schools? And make other lifestyles other than hetrosexuals who want to wait to have sex before they are married? These were concerted efforts of teh left over time and through many organaizations but they did happen. If you were in teh 50's you might also question the effort to push religion and make alternate lifestyles the norm in schools.
I believe it is no joke, it is a small push here and a jump there and we have the time warp.
→ Yes, Shy
October 3, 2009 - 16:35 ET by Cool ArrowQueering Elementary Education. Forword written by Kevin Jennings, President Obama's Safe Schools Czar.
Afterword written by none other than William Ayers.
Kevin Jennings
October 3, 2009 - 16:40 ET by Sergeant ROCKWell.. there's a surprise.
The Gay Agenda is alive and well.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Well, let's see...
October 4, 2009 - 22:13 ET by CobraMan"I am waiting for a REASONED responce for why Obama is a far left politican"
Well, let's see. Obama believes that the government is better as creating "competition" than the private sector.
He believes that the government is better at "stimulating" an economy than the private sector.
He believes that the government is better at creating "diversity" than the private sector.
He believes that the government is better at "regulating" business than the private sector.
He believes that government is better at creating "equality" than the private sector.
As a matter of fact, He believes that the government would do just about everything better than the private sector.
No, you tell me, does that ideology sound far right, right, center, left, or far left to you?
To me it sound EXTREME LEFT, because that's just what it is.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Was there a point in all
October 3, 2009 - 15:05 ET by G. MayWas there a point in all that mangled writing?
Mangled...
October 3, 2009 - 18:03 ET by JPR1Might add confused and discombobulated. :-)
A LAST-MINUTE LAME SHOT
October 3, 2009 - 16:12 ET by StarAZThe man took a shot, and it didn't work out. Its too bad, but its far far far from shameful.
He saw a chance to frame his second term (which he clearly thinks he is getting) with a big payback to his Chicago buddies and another chance to run around grinning and blabbing. He made the pitch about him--what it meant to him, good little Barack, paragon, etc. It was not about the stunning opportunities this country affords people, the can-do spirit, the basic good-heartedness, the decency--no, it was about his story, his wife's, Oprah's (probably, don't know on that). Yak, yak, yak. The IOC, which had been working on this for YEARS, said, "Yeah, thanks for playing, but nope." Endy story. And he made us look stupid. Not that I accept looking stupid. I don't give a flip where the Olys go...but you get my drift.
nothing could be?
October 3, 2009 - 17:59 ET by JPR1"nothing could be a more prime examble then say one president is a putz..."
Uh, you should probably be more cautious in your writing. Bringing up "prime examples" of putzes really exposes your flank.
Flanks actually.
Very entertaining though, keep it up.
Obama is a putz because he
October 3, 2009 - 19:29 ET by NL207Obama is a putz because he gambled his prestige on gaining the 2016 Olympics for Chicago. The risk far outweighed the reward. It was a fool's gambit.
The MSM is a putz because it consistently and outrageously overestimates Obama's influence abroad. Obama is, in fact, despised for his arrogance and naivety by large numbers of world leaders, yet our MSM portrays him as God's gift to American diplomacy.
YOU are a putz because you obviously failed English Grammar, political science and philosophy.
Moronic
October 4, 2009 - 06:15 ET by nadadhimmiSo was the USSR Communist then? If you think "The Prolitariat" controlled the means of production in the Soviet Union you are out of your mind. Oh yeah, I forgot, the PARTY were the Prolies huh?. The Party was EVERYTHING in Russia, the people were and are nothing. This college campus level bs must stop because it has no relevance in the real world.
Dems can't quite put their finger on it....
October 3, 2009 - 16:11 ET by BarkerWith a virtually nonexistent vetting process, highly questionable choices for "czars", an incomplete cabinet, a series of public relations debacles, etc, Obama would be wise to 'replace' his Chief of Staff - Rahm Emanuel.
Look for Rahm Emanuel to keep his job.
You're doing a heckuva job, Rahmmy...
Critical
October 3, 2009 - 14:52 ET by srqvetYou are an astroturf racist and a member of the nazi party. Pretty much sums up the arguments against those that do not agree with the current commie and corrupt administration.
How about this. You liberals and your socialist/commie pals just move to any number of countries to explore your inner child such as Spain, the United Kingdom, Russia, among many others. Why ruin America?
The democrat party is nothing like the party of the past. It has been taken over by the commies and the Chicago thugs, ACORN, SEIU, Tides Foundation, Wood Foundation, and the rest of these America hating organizations. Reckless spending with the intent to spend and collapse the system will not end well for the dims or our country.
Just leave America, PLEASE!! You don't like it here. Fine. Get the heck out---the sooner the better!!
i actually lived in Spain
October 3, 2009 - 15:15 ET by criticalthinkingi actually lived in Spain for a year, its a wonderful country. (hint: to say another country is nice does not make me unamerican) If it helps i can tell you that i never saw a women giving birth in the street. It is true that those with money preferred the private healthcare system, but that is fine, that part of the Bombers plan...you can keep your private if you want. EVERYBODY in Spain (including me) had access to a doctor when we needed one, and nobody ever had to get rationed by a health care company first.
PS. spanish women are also prettier
private health care
October 3, 2009 - 15:30 ET by Darune Albanewhat you forgot to mention was that those people who used the private health care in spain payed for it twice.
they paid for the government ran one .. then to get the healh care they went/need they had to go and pay for it a SECOND time sounds like they getting screwed
Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this
in mind; it may offer a way to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate -- and quickly. Robert Heinlein {notebooks of Lazarus Long}
~P.S.
October 3, 2009 - 16:17 ET by choselife3xThan what? The Spanish men? The bulls?
Kossacks hate me. And yes, it does feel good.
oh, and one more thing, I am
October 3, 2009 - 15:17 ET by criticalthinkingoh, and one more thing, I am so frigging tired of conservatives telling liberals to leave, like i was up to you who is american and who isnt. New flash, big pimping, ever drip of my blood is american, this is my nation as much as yours, and if you dont like it, why dont YOU go to Saudi Arabia, or Indonesia or someother country with some hard core right wing military dictatorship where you can beat up people who look different from you.
criticalthinker
October 3, 2009 - 15:50 ET by MrShyYou have to be one of not only the dumbest liberals we've had here, but also the least educated.
You're writing is a mess all over the place and you don't make any sense half the time. The other times I'm miraculously able to decipher what you write, you just regurgitate over-the-top stereotypes about conservatives.
I'll personally ask YOU to leave (having nothing to do with being a brainless liberal) because all of us pride ourselves on both being and appearing smart and eloquent. You seriously degrade the quality of NewsBusters.
"You have to be one of not
October 3, 2009 - 16:20 ET by criticalthinking"You have to be one of not only the dumbest liberals we've had here, but also the least educated."
I am a product of public schools! now you see why we need for money for public schools, otherwise the majority of americans will wind up stupid and uneducated, like me
→ critical
October 3, 2009 - 16:30 ET by Cool ArrowHow could you be so ignorant as to believe throwing money at public schools will improve them?
If you even understood the concept of fractions, you'd realize private schools are still turning out better educated students at roughly half the price of public schools.
Even at that, some of the blame for your claimed illiteracy lies with you.
or homeschool
October 3, 2009 - 18:01 ET by katainkentthere's a significantly smaller fraction with a much better quality education.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
again, I notice that you
October 3, 2009 - 16:22 ET by criticalthinkingagain, I notice that you have been wholly unable to contradict a single point that i made (and yes, i am aware that you will say, "uh, but you didnt make any points" which of course will be a major cop out on your part.
again, I notice that you
October 3, 2009 - 16:22 ET by criticalthinkingagain, I notice that you have been wholly unable to contradict a single point that i made (and yes, i am aware that you will say, "uh, but you didnt make any points" which of course will be a major cop out on your part.
Looks like there's a bad
October 3, 2009 - 16:27 ET by FeynmanFanLooks like there's a bad echo on NB today.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
If you're "so frigging tired of conservatives",
October 3, 2009 - 16:18 ET by SickofLibsIf you're "so frigging tired of conservatives", what are you doing here torturing yourself?
Unless you really believe that ANYTHING you type here is ever going to convince anybody - of anything - at any time.
I read this site and many
October 3, 2009 - 16:24 ET by criticalthinkingI read this site and many conservative sights everyday, at first because i was looking for an intelectual explanation of modern conservatism, one without name calling and obama bashing, just a deep well written synopsis of the theory. I am still looking. I continue because i am morbidly fascianted by the exteme myopic views and the idea that people could be so short sighted, close minded and afraid.
Hmmm yes goobldy glop, you
October 3, 2009 - 16:41 ET by Dan The Man 2Hmmm yes goobldy glop, you need to explain what you believe your terms mean ... like modern conservatism.
False motives
October 3, 2009 - 16:49 ET by Sergeant ROCKlol.. I love reading those posts by a liberal where they will say 'oh, I'm looking with an openmind at conservatism' and then launch into a tirade trashing it. They're lying. of course.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Here, Critical
October 3, 2009 - 16:50 ET by FeynmanFanHere, Critical, try this.
You do know how to use Google, don't you? ;)
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
You're a fake intellectual
October 3, 2009 - 17:14 ET by SickofLibsReal intellectuals can spell intellectual.
Dismissing the fact that your posts are typically dopey ad hominem attacks, they are so rife with misspellings, context manglings, lack of punctuation and incorrect usage you make Kengie look like a Rhodes Scholar.
Have some pride, man. And go ahead and tell me "it doesn't matter."
srqvet--right on!
October 3, 2009 - 15:29 ET by delmarwhen you say that the Democrat party now is nothing like the party of the past. I'm no fan of the Kennedys but contrast AG Bobby Kennedy's attitude towards crooked unions and organized crime back then with the way ACORN and SEIU are embraced by the cast of characters in the White House now.
Critical
October 3, 2009 - 15:28 ET by srqvetThanks for your sharing your insight. I've spilled blood for this country and lost friends in battle. You have every right, and I've fought for that right, to say whatever you want. However, you and your ilk have no right to foist a communist state upon this great country. You may claim we are not yet a purely socialist or communist country, but it is quite clear it is the direction Duh One is leading us.
Glad you had fun in Spain. I was thinking of something more long-term than a one-year visit.
$50 million failure
October 3, 2009 - 16:06 ET by Sergeant ROCKI was listening to NPR this past week and they said Chicago had spent $50,000,000 trying to get the Olympics.
How's that, for money well spent?
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
I was listening to NPR
October 3, 2009 - 16:25 ET by MidAmericaI was listening to NPR this past week and they said Chicago had spent $50,000,000 trying to get the Olympics.
Well I feel I must defend Chicago here. If Chicago did spend $50,000,000 on this effort I can guarantee you that at least some of that money went towards legitimate expenses to win the olympics. Just think of the waste had they spent all the money on trying to secure the olympics. Instead there is now a lot of money still in Chicago ready to stimulate the local economy.
Minus $50 million
October 3, 2009 - 16:28 ET by Sergeant ROCKNow a lot of money is still in Chicago ready to stimulate the local economy.
Yeah, just $50 million less. I forget where I saw it on TV.. but I saw that there was a lot of local opposition to getting the Olympics. One guy said: ".. yeah, the hotels and construction companies" will benefit the most.. and the "rest of us will be paying for it.."
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Not defending Chicago but
October 3, 2009 - 16:38 ET by Dan The Man 2Not defending Chicago but Arlington TX in their bid, later changed to Dallas for visibility, spent about 10 mil and nothing happened. The money was from private sources and the only thing the DFW cities contributed was time, correspondence, manpower and a few trips overseas. And we got thrown out like quick. It takes money to play on teh world stage.
Arlington, TX???
October 3, 2009 - 16:43 ET by Sergeant ROCKlol.. I just don't see that happening even had they spent a $100 million. Hmm.. but then there's the IOC..
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Hey Rock you do know that
October 3, 2009 - 17:37 ET by Dan The Man 2Hey Rock you do know that the Dallas Cowboys and Texas Rangers and Six Flags are in Arlington TX. Yes we only have about 200/250 thousand people but we used be affluent. The original concept was to use the Cowboys stadium (the one in Arlington its massive) and then spread teh games around the DFW area. Distance from FW to Dallas is like 20 miles and the cities and burgs surround it make up quite a swarm of people.
So, it's Bush's fault?
October 3, 2009 - 17:41 ET by Sergeant ROCKHe should've gone to the IOC with a suitcase full of cash. Maybe Dallas.. I mean: Arlington(?).. could've hosted.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Naw Jerry Jones with season
October 3, 2009 - 17:56 ET by Dan The Man 2Naw Jerry Jones with season passes and box seats would have done it.
$50,000,000 ?
October 3, 2009 - 16:39 ET by RukusAnd we,The People got to pay for that!? Sucks to be a tax payer! Barry needs to stay home and stop campaigning. I'm with ya there Sarge.
Gary
If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -- Tom Paine
$50 million stimulus
October 3, 2009 - 16:53 ET by Sergeant ROCKThat kind of money might've been helpful at the local level. Unless, I'm mistaken and Chicago has zero unemployment.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
You are correct Sarge
October 3, 2009 - 17:06 ET by RukusAt the local level that money would have gone far. Wasted $$ as far as I am concerned. You are correct sir. Barry is an idiot!
Gary
If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -- Tom Paine
Obama was just walking the walk in his bid for the Olympics
October 3, 2009 - 16:39 ET by FeynmanFanObama was just walking the walk in his bid for the Olympics. He didn't really want a victory in Copenhagen.
Here's why in his own words:
Wouldn't want to make those other cities feel inferior.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
→ And here it is!
October 3, 2009 - 16:47 ET by Cool ArrowYes, It's Bush's Fault.
Seems poor Mr. Obama just couldn't overcome the years of ill-will generated by the Bush administration.
Waaaaaa Waaaaaa
Cool Arrow
October 3, 2009 - 18:06 ET by BarkerI'm surprised the left isn't blaming Karl Rove and his Anti-Obama Olympic Obliteration Machine (patent pending).
I could care
October 3, 2009 - 17:52 ET by Joe CamelI could care less if Obama got anything accomplished on his trip. My gripe is the money spent, OUR money to fly his wife, the big O and friends over there on my money. What was the cost of that? The fact he got nothing done just makes it worse. Why can't we stop all this wasteful travel, regardless of who is in office? All the senators and house members traveling all over creation, the wasted dollars. This is the 21st century, have they not heard of video conferencing, conference calls..anyone..No, we have to waste tax dollars flying all over trying to get some crooked politicians in Chicago and other places more of our money. Enough from all of them..
Why bother? The
October 3, 2009 - 20:00 ET by RR GOPWhy bother? The Obamaheads will continue to think he's great and conveniently ignore this entire embarrassing narcissistic episode.
Press a Lib on this and they'll start lashing out about Bush and Katrina or something like that.
Now, if Chicago had gotten the Games, then there'd be a little spring in every Libtards step for a week or so, and they wouldn't spare you their glee at how happy they are The One pulled it off, how great it is for America, how He brought pride back to America...blah blah blah friggin' BLAH
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
One more photoshop on the Olympics...
October 3, 2009 - 20:04 ET by BKeyserI'm bored, what can I say?
Maybe he overshot...
Colossus
October 3, 2009 - 20:09 ET by Sergeant ROCKI think Obama should've been lobbying the Greek government to bring back the 'Colossus' statue in his image.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
BKeyser--
October 4, 2009 - 05:04 ET by srqvetStay bored as the photoshop is absolutely delicious! Thanks!