‘High Level’ MSNBC Source: Olbermann Tainting ‘Face of NBC News’

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MSNBC's Election Night AnchormanA “high level source inside MSNBC” tells the TVNewser blog that network stars like Tim Russert and Chris Matthews are “upset” and “pissed” that the far-left Keith Olbermann is tainting the network’s credibility with his “activism,” such as blogging for the hard-left Daily Kos site.

“What’s it going to be like in the general election now that everyone knows we’re the in-house network of Barack Obama,” TVNewser’s Steve Krakauer quoted the MSNBC insider as fretting. The source suggested Olbermann was allowed to get away with his activism because the network fears the Countdown host would quit:

“They are convinced that he will walk. He behaves like a man who has nothing left to lose. He is not central to MSNBC, he is the center of the MSNBC ratings strategy. We hang the entire schedule on him."

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A network spokesperson dismissed the complaint, telling TVNewser, "Your source is ill-informed and the assertions are laughable."

Excerpts from the June 3 posting, which went up before tonight’s primary coverage began:

Tonight may be the last of the primaries, but the discussion of the cable news coverage will no doubt continue for months to come. MSNBC has bore the brunt of much of the criticism, from a candidate, a competitor, and many voices in between. Now, TVNewser speaks with a high level source inside MSNBC, who sheds light on some of the inside rumblings.

"Every Tuesday night Keith is up there as the face of NBC News. That's a problem," says our source. "[Tim] Russert is upset about it. Russert has spent 20 years building credibility. All of a sudden he's taking questions from Keith Olbermann, the Daily Kos blogger?"

The insider says Olbermann's election night partner has reservations as well: "Chris Matthews is quite pissed about it. He knows a lot about politics and he takes it seriously. He's so close to it that he's not that political. He's not an activist — Keith's an activist. That's the difference."

Suspending excerpt: Okay, I'll concede that Matthews, unlike Olbermann, has a true political insider's grasp of politics, but it's absurd to claim that Matthews is "not that political." Back on February 12, when he admitted getting thrills up his leg from hearing Barack Obama speak, it was actually Olbermann who told Matthews to "steady."

Resuming excerpt:

With the primaries finished, the focus moves to the general election. "What's it going to be like in the general election now that everyone knows we're the in-house network of Barack Obama?" asked our insider.

"There's a huge difference between rooting for one side in a Democratic primary, and another one to take sides in a general election and go out and openly root for a candidate. You can't do that," said the insider. "You think Russert is going to put up with that? Election night coverage in November with Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann?

"The key is his willingness to quit," says our source about Olbermann. "And he means it. He has convinced management of that. They are convinced that he will walk. He behaves like a man who has nothing left to lose. He is not central to MSNBC, he is the center of the MSNBC ratings strategy. We hang the entire schedule on him."

TVNewser has also posted a response by NBC News Senior Vice President Phil Griffin, which you can find here.


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"We hang the entire schedule

"We hang the entire schedule on him."

Smart idea, to plan your future around the most unstable whack job on television. Simply brilliant...

Exactly

Far be it for them to hire someone that is stable and a ratings getter.

I really don't get it

I don't watch MSNBC because its awful and I don't find stories about of MSNBC of any interest. Don't they have like less than 100,000 viewers? Isn't MSNBC a non-story by definition?

Its more of a cult than a news source.

MSNBC is not looking for

MSNBC is not looking for great ratings. It's not even making a very good effort to be a liberal imitation of Fox News, as the people at Fox, despite any conservative leanings, are critical of leaders and politicians on every side.

No, MSNBC is nothing more than a megaphone to communicate with and support the chosen few, the elite that run the Democratic party. Olbermann is talking to you, me, or even the average Democrat. He's talking to the 100,000 who are running the show on that side of the aisle. And as such, I don't see him going anywhere.

Al Frankin redux?

MSNBC should review Al Frankin's relationship with Air America, and how Air America's "Blank check policy" helped lead it to financial ruin. Hanging your hat on one looney, unstable person is not a smart business deal. But, like all leftists, history only begins each day when you wake up, so it's likely to repeat itself. Good luck to ya, MSNBC -- you're going to need a lot of it.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Tainting the face of NBC

Tainting the face of NBC news is like tarnishing the reputation of Charles Manson.

And MSNBC wonders why it is

And MSNBC wonders why it is nothing but a third-rate cable news network.

Matthews is concerned about

Matthews is concerned about OLBY'S activism?!??!?!?!

what

ever

TM... LMAO... That's a

TM...

LMAO...

That's a great way to put it!

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

it's the twilight zone bt -

it's the twilight zone bt - sheesh

No kidding...when Chrissy

No kidding...when Chrissy looks over at Olby it should be like looking at a mirror.

"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather

My sediments exactly, TM...

TM,

My sediments exactly, TM. The "Matthews and Russert" pot calling the "Olbermann kettle" black?  Especially after reading about Matthews saying he is "getting the giggles" thinking about Osama Bama closing in on the Democratic nomination? Pul-eeeze!

All three of these journalistic morons are slightly to the left of Hugo Chavez!

Just another case of left-coast, bleeding heart, 'do as I say, not as I do' liberal blathering and hypocrisy from the MSM!

"It's NOT a lie if YOU believe it!" - George Costanza (also the Democratic Party)

Matthews and Olbermann,

Matthews and Olbermann, sure they'r left wing.

But, I don't think any reasonable person could accuse Tim Russert of being partisan.

He's one of the most respected (and feared) political questioners there are. 

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000

regarding Russert - you can

regarding Russert - you can say he hides his leftiness very very well...

but he still won't admit he's a lefty...

which is still a huge problem here at good ol NB...

I've been coming here for a

I've been coming here for a while... and I don't remember anyone carrying on about him.

I just wish people could make an admission when someone is a straight-shooter, fair reporter.

Russert is an icon... and the most honest reporter going.  What proof do you have that he's not? 

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000

Russert is an icon... and

Russert is an icon... and the most honest reporter going

I agree that he's fair in that he goes after both sides. Although he was clearly unfair to Clinton during the one debate when he hammered her. A little aggressiveness towards Obama was clearly needed to balance things.

And some of the gotcha' games he plays (playing tapes of previous comments by guests that are unfairly edited/incomplete) are a bit rough sometimes.

Again, he pulls the tricks on everyone. 

 

 

The curator's whines

 I just wish people could make an admission when someone is a straight-shooter, fair reporter  Well, maybe if you stopped whining and read some of the praise some of us have had for types such as John Stossel and Chris Wallace, you wouldn't make such a silly assessment.

Russert is an icon... and the most honest reporter going.  What proof do you have that he's not?  Hmmm...his GUSHING over President Greatthings in November 1997 when he did an interview to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Meet The Depressed.  Also, how about his being on Mario Cuomo's staff?  I don't buy his whining that he is a "registered independent" at all.  The guy's a Leftist through and through. 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Russert is an icon... and

Russert is an icon... and the most honest reporter going.  What proof do you have that he's not?

Other than the fact that he perjured himself in the Scooter Libby Trial? 

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

He is not central to MSNBC,

He is not central to MSNBC, he is the center of the MSNBC ratings strategy. We hang the entire schedule on him.

Good luck with that strategy, MSNBC.

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

Some Great Ronald Reagan Quotes

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

"When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." - Ronald Reagan  

"Surely then … the more power we give the government the more corrupt it will become.”  - Ronald Reagan

"Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction … it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation.” - Ronald Reagan

"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15." - Ronald Reagan

"Republicans believe every

"Republicans believe every day is D-Day, but Democrats believe every day should bring peace and prosperity." -- Biff McCain

Hello Troll named Biff!

"Hello Troll named Biff!" --Free Stinker

no brings em out more than

no brings em out more than Ronaldus Maximus:)

Oh goody! A new troll to toy with. Its about time we had a new..

...one around here, as it has been pretty dull since Leon had his plug pulled. Twice.

So ahh, Biff, what brings you here to NB? Crack? Cocain? LSD? Prozac? Ritalin? Xanax? Flomax? Probation for child molestation?

Yeah, with an intiminating name like Biff, I bet you are a real he-man type, too. Do you by chance have a girlfriend named Buffy? Perhaps a boyfriend named Bo?

Do you perchance have a tatoo of Karl Marx on your a$$? Perhaps one of Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? Uncle Ho? Che? Castro maybe?

Now if I had posted such

Now if I had posted such insulting personal attacks about, I'd be thrown off NB --- Fair & Balanced.

"I have a wide stance." -- Larry Craig

Fret not, Biff McCanus,

...as the personal attacks, as they pertain to you, haven't even gotten warmed up yet.


Though I must admit that you got off to a rollicking good start with your shallow minded personal attack against most everyone here.

Good luck, troll.

As you are going to need it, in ways your shallow little Marxist contaminated mind cannot even begin to comprehend.

RD - I didn't know Biff McCanus was a person

when you said that in the other thread I didn't know who you were talking about. Is this another Hater personality?

Dee, not sure, but I am awaiting his first "blonde encounter"...

...with breathless an....tic....i...pa...tion.

Should be a real hoot.

Damn, I am having fun tonight. :-)

RD - Free's chat thing is working you should try

RD - Free's chat thing is working you should try

Cool! Thanks, Dee.

Gotta take the dog out. Catch you guys in a few.

Translation of biff's post

(Whine!) 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

"Where's my under age

"Where's my under age boyfriend?" Gerry Studds (D)

"Where's my boyfriend's hookers?"  Barney Frank (D)

The wrecking ball of reality

It really is too bad for you that without the occasional D-Day there IS no peace and prosperity.   

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

"...but Democrats believe

"...but Democrats believe every day should bring peace and prosperity to our enemies." -- Biff McCain

Fixed it for you Biff.

"Abstain from McCain"

Shack!

Shack! :-)

 

"Don't forget to vote this fall. Not for McCain, not ever, but there might be a Conservative Rep or Senator that Needs Your Vote" --Free Stinker

Nice shooting, Ct.

LOL-Nice, tight group, too.

This one is going to be fun. :-)

 Like him or not... he's

 Like him or not... he's done more for their ratings than anyone in the channel's history.

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000

But they're still crappy ratings.

I could easily make 'em go up, at low cost. Step by step:

1. Dump Olberloon for cause -- he's been nutty enough that they'd find something if they want.

2. Take 50% of his salary and hire a good looking female. Doesn't matter if her opinions are just as annoying as Keith's, the important question to ask would be "is she cute?"

3. Make her mostly just read the TelePrompTer, and tell her to keep her annoying opinions to a bare minimum.

4. Profit from the fact that no guys will want to look at O'Reilly anymore if there's a choice like that.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Heck they could do that

Heck they could do that easily in house...Amy Robach.

"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather

Or, better yet...

Jackie Meretsky, MSNBC's uber-hot early morning weatherbabe. With either of our choices, they'd probably get a "yes" at 1/4 or 1/3 Keith's salary, rather than 1/2.

Attention useless MSNBC executives!! For the sake of both your own bottom line and men like me everywhere, hear my plea! Give Jackie Keith's job!
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Speaking of the few hotties on MSNBC

Is Courtney Hazlett still on there?  She's hot... 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

He's Adult Brat

Just look at that picture.You think anybody is gonna get him to shut-up?

Did you notice Keithie's manicured nails & shined cuticles!

Check out the KEITHIE'S manicure & cuticles, he's just so deliciously primmed down to his eye brows!  Look out Vanna White!

T-A-X C-H-E-A-T

'Keithie' is preparing for his next gig: Prison

Maybe he and Franken go

Maybe he and Franken go together on the buddy-plan....

We can only dream....lol.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

I'm sure they're

pals but buddies? Oops, I mean... uh, with prison that might be right.

 

Politicians and diapers should be changed often, for the same reason.

Trouble in the "Empire"?

Emperor Olberdork the 1st reigning over his vast empire of one.  I guess MSNBC takes his Napoleon complex seriously.  If they place their entire ratings on a certifiable nut, they will continue to dwell in the cellar.

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Holy toledo.

"He is not central to MSNBC, he is the center of the MSNBC ratings strategy. We hang the entire schedule on him."

Why not hang it on Michael Moore ... Alec Baldwin ... Howard Dean ... Barbara Streisand ... hell, Charles Manson? At least those people would have ONE sound thought every 365 days.

I was thinking Susan

I was thinking Susan Saradon, but she's leaving the country after McCain is elected . . .

I got it!

Cindy Sheehan

How about

Soros, he could just cut out the filters and deliver his proud American message directly.

 

Politicians and diapers should be changed often, for the same reason.

Well Phil Griffin has

Well Phil Griffin has spoken...that is it!

What a genius...if he had half a brain he would let him walk, or better yet fired him long ago....but heck he thinks somehow they have great ratings because of him, which neither is the case, in fact it is the complete opposite.

Somebody should fire Griffin to-boot.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

Kinda hard to believe that

Kinda hard to believe that MSNBC would bet that kind of money on Olbermann. Yeah, he was a hit at ESPN, but that was with Dan Patrick and much different venue.

I think you're right that MSNBC needs to rethink their leadership at the top. Their advertising revenue can't be that good. 

I agree boa... I think

I agree boa...

I think they just do not care about the revenue anymore...it is all agenda from what I have seen....making money is not important to them at msnbc.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

Perhaps they're simply happy

Perhaps they're simply happy with what little revenue they are getting, just for a place at the cable news "table" so to speak. 

It'll be fun to see this all come to a head, probably after the election! 

I just don't think he has

I just don't think he has any place on election coverage.  An opinion show - fine.  Whatever.  But, you shouldn't put an admitted partisan in front of your election shows. 

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000

Exactly, curator. Let him

Exactly, curator. Let him rant and rave all you want on an opinion show, but you can't have him turn around suddenly and be Mr. Anchor. Doesn't work that way. I don't look at Olbie and think "Murrow, Cronkite...Olbermann." Too much of a ranter.

I just don't think he has

I just don't think he has any place on election coverage.  An opinion show - fine

But "Countdown" isn't an opinion show. It's a news show.

That's what Griffin and Olbermann insist it is (link). And they insist he doesn't allow his views to affect the show.

Since he's totally objective, what's to complain about him anchoring their election coverage?

More seriously, as noted above, MSNBC has centered it's entire network around him. If Olbermann walks, the network craters. 

Olbermann has Griffin and the cable outlet by the short hairs. He knows it (I've heard that he believes he could have replaced Rather at CBS anchoring their news).

But as he's done at every place he's worked, Olbermann's ego and arrogance will be his undoing. It's only a matter of time.

 

 

Seems as though MSNBC has

Seems as though MSNBC has painted themselves behind the 8-ball (gotta love mixed metaphors). As you said, the network would likely crater if you got rid of Olbie right now. The only hope is for him to get more popular, then they branch off from that success, and have enough "branches" that they can cut down the tree. :-) 

But "Countdown" isn't an

But "Countdown" isn't an opinion show. It's a news show.

That's what Griffin and Olbermann insist it

I don't view it as a news show.  I think their use of 'news show' is the loosest possible definition, if not an outright lie. 

Though, I do see it as an answer to heavily slanted conservative opinion shows that have been on FOX for years.  But, definately NOT a news show.

(I've heard that he believes he could have replaced Rather at CBS anchoring their news).

CBS has done some stupid things, but I don't think they're THAT stupid.  Couric is just keeping Anderson Cooper's seat warm.

Olbermann's ego and arrogance will be his undoing. It's only a matter of time.

I don't disagree one bit.

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000

boa... Oh yeah...it

boa...

Oh yeah...it definitely won't be until after the elections...that's for sure...it has been their whole agenda to begin with since Pres. Bush got in...and they act as if he is still running to-boot.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

We've had burger wars, cola

We've had burger wars, cola wars...how much fun would it be to have,

PUNDIT WARS. 

This just in . . .

This just in . . . "Olberslime leaves network; test pattern garners more viewers. Test pattern to become center of MSNBC's rating strategy."

That's great. LOL. Is the

That's great. LOL.

Is the test pattern a picture of Scott McClellan?

Why compete with the MSM?

Why doesn't somebody with a network take on Fox for the conservatives?  There's a plethora of liberal news available and MSNBC is just following at the end of the long line.

I realize that most media types are libs but the stockholders of these companies must want a return.  It seems like Fox has a cable news monopoly on conservative news.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

Olbermann is by far biggest

Olbermann is by far biggest tainter...but I would content he isn't the only one tainting the face of NBC news.

Chris Matthews, David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Today Show Hosts all have a part in it too

 

"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather

I think the taint of

I think the taint of Olbermann has enabled the liberalism of the other, supposedly more "mainstream" and "neutral" reporters and anchors to be more openly displayed - and still look more neutral - if only in comparison to Olbermann.

I have much more respect

I have much more respect for KO than I do Chrissy Matthews and Russert.  They all present  heavily-biased coverage...at least KO freely admits it.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

The executives acceded to

The executives acceded to making MSNBC the "Republicans-Are-Nazis" network, and now they are trapped.  Almost all of the MSM is in the tank for Obama, but Olbermann is the one who openly says the Republican Party is at least as big a threat as Al-Qaeda.

Their ratings will drop in half!

Goodbye Keith!

Viewership will drop from 12 to six.

MSNBC

I heard that feeling on Matthews leg turned out to be dribble, the aftermath of one of those times he gets so upset his face is red, he sputters, and he, uh, loses control of himself. If he has felt "that feeling" recently I hope the trigger was a look in the mirror. That this guy could be upset with Odorman if beyond belief.

Eventually we'll see Keith

Eventually we'll see Keith as a real life inmate on LOCKUP: SAN QUENTIN.

Think about this: We have

Think about this: We have Matthews ranting and raving about Obama to the point of sounding like a fainting heroine in a cheesy romance novel when he's not shouting down any opposition, we have Olbermann going nuclear about Bush and Cheney when he's not obsessing on O'Reilly, we have Dobbs screeching his phony populism nightly, and we have O'Reilly, who has inflated his anchorman job into a self-deluded position of "Protector of the Folks" - the know-it-all blowhard. I think Olbermann has always been nuts, but what's making the rest of them turn into such vainglorious whack jobs? It's cable news for Pete's sake!

This is a real problem

Finally, someone from GE actually watched an episode of countdown and realized that Olbermann is a rabid partisan hack.  So many people want to compare him to Bill O'Reilly, and that is just outrageous - Bill O'Reilly has spent a lifetime of doing investigative jounalism...his opinion not only carries more water, he also frequently goes after conservatives, and he's not afraid to have the other side of the argument presented.

It's very simple:  I call it the "Rolling Stone" test.  If you're not serious about covering the news, then don't get into the news business. 

It is a privilege to be on television, being able to spew your own views, unchallenged!  People with intellectual integrity immediately realize just how unhinged this miscreant really is. 

And that makes you wonder what kind of people are running most of our media outlets? 

 

 

This is where Keithie is headed,

This is where Keithie is headed, and it isn't pretty. :-)

RD... ROFL... Yep...thei

RD...

ROFL...

Yep...their coming to take him away...ha ha...ho ho...hee hee...

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

Thats classic.........

The Emperors new straight jacket.  LOL............All hail Emperor Olberdork the 1st, leader of the Olbermann Broacasting Empire. 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

I have 4 words for MSNBC

PULL THE DAMN TRIGGER!

 

 

(Metaphorically of course.)

Pass the popcorn, this is

Pass the popcorn, this is gonna get fun.  :-)

McCain Interruption

While Fox quietly announced that Obama got the necessary delegates, MSLSD and CNN both rudely interrupted McCain's speech to break away for this non-story.

And whose face do we see rudely interrupt McCain -

Keith Overhimself.

 

 

GNY..I understand, I get

GNY..I understand, I get your point and agree with it...but one thing about it...McCain's speech was absolutely deplorable and despicable to me...as a conservative.

I am still furious...I am burning up in fact.

I left it on Fox while cooking so it wasn't interrupted for that very reason.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

bt saw it too......is "bland"

 the right word to describe it?  I started to listen, but then it started to sound like Charlie Browns teacher....waa wa waa wa waaaa wa wa wa.  Actually, I think "pandering" says it best.

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

But there is a choice

McCain or a certified Socialist.

Ted Kennedy is luck we don't have socialized medicine like other countries because under that system he would not have been allowed to go to Duke U Hospital, get that very specialized treatment, and not wait 6-8 months for any of that.

Obamination spoke about Universal Healthcare like the rest of the so-called civilized world has. Did you ever notice that no one compares death rates under that type of system versus ours?

 

GNY... McCain is a

GNY...

McCain is a socialist as far as I am concerned...did you LISTEN to his speech tonight, have you listened to his Town Hall meetings over recent time, have you listened to the man on the Senate floor for years and how he votes, what he does intentionally to stick it in the eye of conservatives with his amendments with his support with RINOs and dems....he is a socialist...plain and simple.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson

bt.....I agree, but what is.................

the alternative?  I really wish we had a choice, and it angers the hell out of me when McCain panders, but it is that or......... 

Obama a......PHONY, EMPTY SUIT, CHARLATAN, HOLIER THAN THOU, MOUNTEBANK, A DILETTANTE, AND ABOVE ALL....AN ELITIST, OVEREDUCATED BOOB, A MARXIST SOCIALIST, WHO NEVER HELD A REAL JOB IN HIS LIFE!!!!

I hate to say it, but it is hold your nose time. 

Oh, I almost forgot, one last charge; A SOCK PUPPET FOR SOROS & KENNEDY. 

  "If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.