Wednesday’s NBC Nightly News cheered the Bush administration’s recent liberal moves on climate change — “a very big week for those who are fighting to save the environment,” anchor Brian Williams celebrated — but NBC’s “Environmental Affairs” correspondent Anne Thompson nevertheless trotted out an activist with the National Resources Defense Council to complain that the administration still hasn’t gone far enough to the left on global warming.
But Nightly News had no time for any conservative or free market spokesman who might have said that the administration had already gone too far in trying to appease environmental liberals, and that the act of placing polar bears on the threatened species list would make it easier for a more liberal successor to pursue economically-punishing regulations.
Writing in The American Spectator, the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Iain Murray outlined the conservative argument that NBC ignored. An excerpt:
A sensible discussion of the polar bear requires acknowledging a simple fact: that the polar bear is merely a proxy for something else. The environmental pressure groups like the Center for Biological Diversity that have petitioned for the listing acknowledge that their reason for doing so is concern over global warming. The more warming, they argue, the less sea ice; the less sea ice, the fewer polar bears. So their hope was that the Endangered Species Act will give the federal government power to curtail sources of global warming -- such as your car or air conditioning system.Secretary Dirk Kempthorne attempted to frustrate this desire by erecting regulatory barriers, like a statement from the Director of the US Geological Survey that melting ice in specific areas could not be tied to specific sources of carbon emissions. These barriers have all the legislative strength of tissue paper. It will take but a few moments of a new Administration to blow them away.
After that, the first effects of the now-sacrosanct listing will probably be felt not in Alaska, where America's polar bears range, but in any state thinking of adding a coal-fired power plant to its energy infrastructure. The Act will be used by the new government to intervene -- and by activists to litigate -- against new construction in any controversial permitting process.
Once that precedent is set, the Act would be used to stop uncontroversial, even popular permit applications. Electricity supplies would be constrained. Blackouts and brownouts would proliferate. Were you to buy a plug-in electric car a few years from now, you may well find you have no electricity to power it.
Not a peep of that point of view on NBC, however, which touted the polar bear ruling as “a huge milestone” only undermined by Kempthorne’s decree that the Endangered Species Act not be used to push a Gore-esque agenda. Thompson sought out Dale Bryk of the National Resources Defense Council (no “liberal” label, of course) for a predictable soundbite: “The administration on the one hand is saying yes, global warming is the dominant threat to your survival, but at the very same time they're saying, we're going to do nothing to protect from you that threat.”
Now, the full transcript of the May 14 NBC Nightly News:
BRIAN WILLIAMS: This has been a very big week for those who are fighting to save the environment. Yesterday in an interview, President Bush said there's no question, global warming is real. Then today, a huge milestone by the Bush administration, polar bears were declared a threatened species. But none of that apparently has changed the fight over what to do about climate change. Our report tonight from our Chief Environmental Affairs correspondent Anne Thompson.
ANNE THOMPSON: The polar bear is on thin ice and could well be on its way to extinction. Today the Bush administration acknowledged global warming is shrinking sea ice, a crucial part of the bear's habitat in Alaska. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne used satellite images to show the dramatic change in ice from 1979 to today in explaining his decision to list the bear as threatened. But he insisted this would not be a way to regulate greenhouse gases from cars and power plants.
SECRETARY DIRK KEMPTHORNE: The Endangered Species Act is not the means nor the method nor the vehicle by which you can deal with global climate change.
THOMPSON: That disappointed many environmental groups, leading some to label the listing as an empty victory.
DALE BRYK, NATIONAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL: The administration on the one hand is saying yes, global warming is the dominant threat to your survival, but at the very same time they're saying we're going to do nothing to protect from you that threat.
THOMPSON: Dr. Scott Bergen of the Wildlife Conservation Society says they can always see the impact of the shrinking ice: pregnant females are lighter and fewer cubs are surviving their first year. [TO BERGEN] What role does the sea ice play in the polar bear's survival?
DR. SCOTT BERGEN: It determines the polar bear survival.
THOMPSON: The 20,000-plus bears use the ice to catch the seals they feed on. [at Central Park Zoo] The fear is without protection, this will be one of the few places polar bears exist. Last year government scientists predicted two-thirds of all polar bears will disappear by the year 2050 including every bear in Alaska. And today, a new international study confirmed man-made climate change is causing a reduction in the number of bears. More evidence that those in the wild tonight are at risk. Anne Thompson, NBC News, New York.
—Rich Noyes is Research Director at the Media Research Center.





ANNE THOMPSON: The polar bear is on thin ice and could well be on its way to extinction. Today the Bush administration acknowledged global warming is shrinking sea ice, a crucial part of the bear's habitat in Alaska. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne used satellite images to show the dramatic change in ice from 1979 to today in explaining his decision to list the bear as threatened. But he insisted this would not be a way to regulate greenhouse gases from cars and power plants.














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May 15, 2008 - 13:14 ET by mattmThis is the fatal flaw of the RINO mentality. They seem (and it could be a false impression engendered by media spin) to be more concerned with placating Liberals than with promoting their own party's platform.
matt,Laura Ingraham had an
May 15, 2008 - 13:44 ET by Chris Normanmatt, Laura Ingraham had an interesting debate on her show that I only caught a few minutes of. It was two Republicans debating the future of conservatism, with one backing the notion that Reagan conservatism just won't win elections now. I think the Gerald Ford/Bob Michel brand of Republicans are back. The "go-along-because-it's-easier" brand of Republicans that dominated the party in the Fifties, Sixties, and Seventies. It's the same as the Democratic social/political/economic philosophy - except less funded. I'm afraid that's where we are now.
I agree, Chris (but you
May 15, 2008 - 14:16 ET by motherbeltI agree, Chris (but you knew that. LOL)
I just said the other day I didn't think Ronald Reagan himself could win an election right now. People want government to "do things" for them. As Obama says "...help them in their everyday lives..."
And Republicans want to get elected and re-elected, so they offer the same things as Democrats.
We don't need a two-party system...they are all the same now.
"The Moderate Republicans:
May 15, 2008 - 14:24 ET by Chris Norman"The Moderate Republicans: Less Filling - Taste Great!"
yep
May 15, 2008 - 15:28 ET by mbuelWe have the party of Nixon back. The republicans that are trying to be democrats. remember the horror that Nixon brought us? (the EPA), modern republicans will do the same crap with this AGW BS.
What needs to happen to fix the problem is term limits on EVERYTHING. we shouldn't have lifer supreme court nominees nor lifer senators and represantitives....
This year's presidential evils are caused by the lack of term limits on senators.
Ho, good yeoman.
May 15, 2008 - 13:40 ET by FoolicanIt's bad enough that we get those AGW idiots out there pushing a failing theory. But does this website REALLY have to have this alongside under Google ads:
It looks hypocritical, and it's a rather blatant insult of intelligence. ;-)
the lack of action by government to regulate emissions
May 18, 2008 - 11:49 ET by Giles WinterbourneKempthorne's use of the argument " ..melting ice in specific areas could not be tied to specific sources of carbon emissions.." really is a moot point since the connection of carbon emissions to global warming has been firmly established. Below is just the latest study re-affirming that.
Add to that the energy use per capita and the lack of action by government to regulate emissions and it is a clear case.
Add to that that the CEI story is a combination of fear-mongering and grossly exagerated effects with no proof. Hardly a 'news story' though it might find use in the Letter to the Editor section of a local newspaper.
"A new NASA-led study shows human-caused climate change has made an impact on a wide range of Earth's natural systems, including permafrost thawing, plants blooming earlier across Europe, and lakes declining in productivity in Africa."(NASA)
"Significant changes in physical and biological systems are occurring on
all continents and in most oceans, with a concentration of available
data in Europe and North America. Most of these changes are in the
direction expected with warming temperature. Here we show that these
changes in natural systems since at least 1970 are occurring in regions
of observed temperature increases, and that these temperature increases
at continental scales cannot be explained by natural climate variations
alone." (Nature;Probably available through your local library )
Nature not Human Activity drives Climate Change
May 19, 2008 - 07:42 ET by PopularTech"More informed respondents both feel less personally responsible for global warming, and also show less concern for global warming" - 2008 Texas A&M University Study
Climate of Fear (Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT)
The Case for Skepticism on Global Warming (Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard)
Climate chaos? Don't believe it (Christopher Monckton, The Daily Telegraph, UK)
Guides:
A Global Warming Primer (PDF) (National Center for Policy Analysis)
A Skeptic’s Guide to Debunking Global Warming Alarmism (PDF) (US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee)
A Skeptical Layman's Guide to Anthropogenic Global Warming (PDF) (Climate Skeptic)
Global Warming FAQ (PDF) (Competitive Enterprise Institute)
Global Warming: Science vs. Nonsense (PDF) (EIR Economics)
Myths:
Fallacies about Global Warming (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Five Biggest Myths about Global Warming (The Washington Examiner)
Global Warming: Fact and Myth (S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences)
Global Warming Myths (Friends of Science)
Green Myths On Global Warming - Debunked (The Association of British Drivers, UK)
Heartland President Debunks Global Warming Myths (The Heartland Institute)
Myths and Facts About the Environment (National Center for Public Policy Research)
Myths of Global Warming (National Center for Policy Analysis)
The Global Warming Myth? (John Stossel, ABC News)
Top 10 Climate Myth-Busters for 2007 (Steve Milloy, B.A. Natural Sciences, M.S. Health Sciences)
Top 10 Environmental Myths (PDF) (U.S. Chamber of Commerce)
Top 10 'Global-Warming' Myths (Human Events)
Papers:
A Climate of Belief (PDF) (Patrick Frank, Ph.D. Chemistry)
Apocalypse Cancelled (PDF) (Christopher Monckton, Former Policy Advisor for British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher)
Carbon Dioxide is not the primary cause of global warming (PDF) (Allan M.R. MacRae, B.Sc., M.Eng.)
Carbon Emissions Don’t Cause Global Warming (PDF) (David Evans, B.Sc. Physics, M.S. Statistics, Ph.D. Engineering)
Climate Change Re-examined (PDF) (Joel M. Kauffman, Ph.D. Organic Chemistry, MIT)
Climate Science: Climate Change and Its Impacts (PDF) (David R. Legates, Ph.D. Climatology)
CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal of Our Time (PDF) (Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D. Ph.D. D.Sc.)
Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (PDF) (Arthur Robinson, Ph.D. Chemistry)
Global Warming and Nature's Thermostat (Roy Spencer, Ph.D. Meteorology)
Is the Sky Really Falling? A Review of Recent Global Warming Scare Stories (PDF) (Patrick J. Michaels, Ph.D. Ecological Climatology)
Is There a Basis for Global Warming Alarm? (Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT)
Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate (PDF) (S. Fred Singer, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences)
The Acquittal of Carbon Dioxide (Jeffrey A. Glassman, Ph.D. Applied Physicist and Engineer)
The Increase in Global Temperature: What it Does and Does Not Tell Us (PDF) (Robert C. Balling Jr., Ph.D. Professor of Climatology)
The Myth of Dangerous Human Caused Climate Change (PDF) (Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology)
The Science Isn't Settled - The Limitations of Global Climate Models (PDF) (Timothy (Tim) F. Ball, Ph.D. Historical Climatologist)
Reports:
Independent Summary for Policymakers: IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (The Fraser Institute)
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actual science research?
May 19, 2008 - 09:48 ET by Giles WinterbourneInteresting
Just how many of those links point to actual science research in published journals?
Same old names, same old arguments, same old resources
"Such contrarians ascribe to the false god of falsification, that is, a
critic finding one or even several lines of argument contrary to
mainstream consensus who claims they have falsified the conventional
conclusion. That's how simple science used to be done. For example, if
you have a liquid in a test tube and you want to know if it's an acid
or alkaline, one piece of litmus paper can falsify a wrong preliminary
hypothesis. But in complex system science, like tobacco and cancer, or
greenhouse gas build-ups and climate change, hundreds and even
thousands of studies are needed to build a consensus. A few dozen
exceptions do not remotely falsify the vast preponderance of
accumulated evidence. System science is based on preponderance of all
the evidence, not on a few exceptions." Stephen Schneider
Over 250 Peer-Reviewed Papers of Scientific Research
May 19, 2008 - 10:07 ET by PopularTechGiles, there are over 250 Peer-Reviewed Papers of Scientific Research supporting Skepticism of "Man-Made" Global Warming.
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publications in ISI indexed journals?
May 19, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Giles WinterbourneSo, how many of that massive 250 cite list are publications in ISI indexed journals? (ISI search)
How many times do the same authors show up? A simple 'find' and 'find
again' brings up that answer. Easy enough to check the area of expertise of the authors, their
publishing histories, their connections. Easy enough to review the
publishers, their histories, their connections. Easy enough to review
the comments and critiques of the papers being proffered. Notice that the same names keep
repeating, the same few journal titles, the unpublished papers that are
often 'basic sources'. What do the bios and CVs of those authors
say to you? Are they writing in their respective areas of expertise? Do
the publishers have a reputation for quality? And a simple literature review will verify that data and papers
used in vain attempts to debunk the findings of anthropogenic global
warming is, in actuality, far and few between.
Then compare the long lists of different names,
the long lists of names of reputable journals, the citation histories
of the papers that are in the various chapters of the the IPCC reports
and new publications.
Pure and simple: The 'basic' skeptic literature doesn't hold up to
close scrutiny. The puny, extremely cherry-picked lists proffered here
don't show the scope of evidence that is available in any one chapter
of IPCC and in new publishing in every issue of reputable science
journals that are indexed in ISI. The techniques used by many of the
'high priests' of the skeptic/denier belief system are questionable,
disingenuous, sometimes border on libelous, and can often be linked to
questionable motives and interests.
Really, the IPCC reports aren't that hard to read.
Note also that the science depts. of most governments have subscribed
to those same conclusions and most are increasing funding, developing
and putting into place policies to exacerbate Anthropogenic Global
Warming. Continuing research further strengthens the findings.
And really? Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of
Brenchley, has the expertise to 'debunk' IPCC? Though he does get
some points for effective use of journalistic skills, at least to the
non-discerning.Not that the other sources stand up any better to close
scrutiny.
Reasonably intelligent people can do the research on the expertise,
reputation, history of the people and organizations in the denier -
skeptic - delayer camp as well as those supporting working toward
solving the problem and use those findings to determine which has the
stronger case.
Giles and Journal Listing Propaganda
May 20, 2008 - 11:11 ET by PopularTechSo if a source listing is incapable of indexing journals as well as say Google, we should ignore all those other Journals? That would be convenient. Pretend the papers do not exist, nice.
Weren't you complaining that the Skeptical scientists did no publish enough and are now complaining that some publish too much?
I have started to compile exactly what you are talking about regarding individual scientists and it is very shocking to the alarmists.
The list here more then holds up to scrutiny and then some. They effectively chip away many of the most sacred of AGW theory "pillars".
Really, the truth about the IPCC is not that hard to read:
Independent Summary for Policymakers: IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (Fraser Institute)
Inadequacies and criticisms of the IPCC (PDF) (Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology)
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report 2007 Analysis and Summary (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Has the IPCC inflated the feedback factor? (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Peer Review? What Peer Review? Failures of scrutiny in the UN's Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
What is Wrong with the IPCC? (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Why the IPCC should be disbanded (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Any reasonably intelligent person can make up their own minds yes they can which is why you are so desperate to smear.
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reason, or several, why a particular journal is not included.
May 20, 2008 - 20:31 ET by Giles WinterbourneThat first para makes no sense. ISI is a selected collection of journals; selected on "..basic publishing standards,
its editorial content, the international diversity of its authorship, and the
citation data associated with it are all considered." and "..citation data, journal standards,
and expert judgment."
Google however, doesn't discern, there is no human selectivity involved.
So, there is a reason, or sometimes several, why a particular journal is not included.
"..complaining that the Skeptical scientists did no publish enough and are now complaining that some publish too much?" Nope, The more quality publishing the better.
And, as stated previously, it doesn't take much work, Google or otherwise, to study up on what you feel 'holds up to scrutiny'. And with review by experts in the field, that stuff, pure and simple, usually doesn't..
"..shocking to the alarmists" ???
Alarmist's Cherry Pick Journals
May 20, 2008 - 22:08 ET by PopularTechThankfully Google does not cherry pick journals like the Alarmists do.
"It would appear that, in order to be comprehensive, an index to scientific journal literature might be expected to cover all the scientific journals published. This approach would be not only impractical economically, but as analyses of the scientific literature have shown, unnecessary. It has been demonstrated that a relatively small number of journals publish the bulk of significant scientific results."
What a bunch of BS. Apparently Google is able to do it so their excuses do not fly except for Alarmists who want to cherry pick journals.
I have studied up and it does hold up to scrutiny except of course if you believe smear/alarmist sites and do not recognize them for what they are.
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Stultiloquy
May 21, 2008 - 01:27 ET by Giles WinterbournePerhaps this analogy will clear up your misconception:
Your main complaint, though unjustified, of Wikipedia is that anyone can post anything they want with no control. Google is a searchable database much like you envision Wikipedia. Anyone can write anything. Google just finds it. Add a few algorithms for popularity (ranking) and Bob's your uncle. No quality control
ISI reviews the QUALITY of the work and makes a choice of whether to include it or not. Hie yourself off to the local university library and ask the science librarian about selection criteria.
Users do have the capability to suggest new journals and publishers can send in review copies. If you don't like their choices, offer up some you feel better represents the field.
Sorry your sources meet your approval; fortunately reasonably intelligent people can do some basic research and make up their own minds.
Giles Wants Totalitarian Control over Information
May 21, 2008 - 20:48 ET by PopularTechWikipedia has nothing to do with Google searching scientific journals not indexed by your cherry picking sites.
BTW you have no idea what I meant by using Google and no idea what you are talking about.
ISI states that they do not need to search more journals then they do because their claim is that all the science they feel is worthy is included in their selections. This is elitist and has nothing to do with science. I have no need for ISI, I have better search engines such as Google. ISI has become irrelevant.
I do my own research I do not ask for opinions from others on what can or cannot be used. You wish you could control this but thankfully this is not a totalitarian state.
Yes reasonably intelligent people would want to know why information is being censored from them by elitist organizations such as ISI.
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expertise in declaring ISI 'irrelevant'
May 22, 2008 - 05:13 ET by Giles WinterbourneISI selection standards .
Might also note that half of the journals they cover provide 75% of the papers in their database, so hardly elitist.
So, if a paper can't make the ISI cut, there are other journals available. And yeah, Google can search them. As it can also search the abstracts of many of the ISI list.
It would be either entertaining or humiliating to run your selected list by your local science prof and ask about citing them in a paper.
"BTW you have no idea what I meant by using Google.." That would be a writing problem then, wouldn't it? "...no idea what you are talking about" - Actually, I've been through the process. Published. In the database. Cited.
And your expertise in declaring ISI 'irrelevant' is?
Google makes ISI Irrelevant
May 22, 2008 - 21:10 ET by PopularTechThe fact that Google searches and indexes more journals not covered by ISI makes ISI irrelevant. These journals exist and their listing in ISI is irrelevant to their existence or relevance. The days of elitist control over information are over.
Sorry but my local science professor is not nor ever will be the final word on what I can cite.
My expertise in information systems allows me to declare ISI irrelevant in the modern information age.
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Hmmm
May 22, 2008 - 22:29 ET by Giles WinterbourneOne would have thought having some expertise in the topic being researched would be a leading factor in being able to decide whether the material was relevent - accurate.
One would also wonder why ISI/Web of Science is the database that university and research libraries seem to value well enough to spend the money on. Gee, if Google is free, then they could use the money for something else. And in the libraries I'm familiar with, major purchases came with/from recommendations of the dept. involved.
Cite whatever you like, it is your credibility and expertise levels that are showing .
"The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does
not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body
of data" - - J. W. Tukey
Why do many businesses waste their money? Why does government?
May 22, 2008 - 22:48 ET by PopularTechThese are all good questions, just like I ask my clients why they waste their money buying software they can get for free. Google is free and references more journals so it is more relevant than ISI.
Giles, I will cite whatever I like and you don't get to decide the credibility of it or my level of expertise.
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more journals - like the 31,000 unattributed names
May 23, 2008 - 05:25 ET by Giles Winterbournemore journals = like the 31,000 unattributed name list. And quality, cite history, credentials seem to be elitist in your world.
Actually I do get to decide on the credibility of your cites and your level of expertise. That is why I point out that your resources are generally cherry-picked, your selection skills are poor, and your arguments weak.
Giles and his Delusional Fantasies
May 23, 2008 - 20:55 ET by PopularTechSorry Giles but you have no authority to decide on the credibility of my citations. I know in your delusional mind you really want this power but you will have to live with the fact that there is nothing you can do about it.
My resources are excellent, my selections excellent and my arguments so damaging to your agenda that you desperately try but fail to discredit them.
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ipse dixit
May 23, 2008 - 22:39 ET by Giles Winterbourneipse dixit