New Media Darling: New Hampshire Press Helps Fuel Obama's Surge

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It’s not just the national media that’s got the ear of New Hampshire voters in the days before their first-in-the-nation primary tomorrow. Local newspapers are filled with stories about the various candidates, and The Concord Monitor (which reaches about 20,000 weekday readers in and around the state’s capital city) has had a spate of stories favorable to Barack Obama since Thursday’s Iowa caucuses.

What makes that all the more interesting is that the generally liberal newspaper endorsed Hillary Clinton back on December 30, saying the former First Lady “has the right experience, the right agenda and the know-how to lead the country back to respect on the world stage and meaningful progress on long-neglected problems.”

But since the caucuses, more than a few pro-Obama pieces have found their way into the paper. On January 4, for example, the Monitor ran a long story headlined “Speaking of faith, Obama does; Senator bucks party trend to reach out.” The first couple of paragraphs will give you the flavor:

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Barack Obama would be justified if he chose to push religion aside in the presidential race. Religion has rarely been a key issue for the Democratic Party, and personally, Obama, a Christian, has been smeared falsely — more than once — as a radical Muslim. But instead, the Illinois senator has called on the Democratic Party to reach out to religious voters.

"We know that 90 percent of Americans believe in a higher power, we know that huge chunks of voters in swing states consider religion a really important part of their lives," Obama told the Monitor. "If we aren't speaking to those issues, then I think we're missing a huge part of the electorate that cares about family, poor people, a lot of issues I care about as a senator and a presidential candidate."

In his approach to religion, Obama has walked a fine line, emphasizing the importance of Christian faith to his own life while advocating a universal ideology that respects the separation of church and state.

The next day, Saturday, January 5, readers found an uplifting story about an Obama rally with the positive headline, “Words unashamedly hopeful; Obama presses on with message of unity.” Here’s a short excerpt:

Fresh off his momentous victory in the Iowa caucus and with a voice hoarse from frenetic campaigning, Sen. Barack Obama exhorted New Hampshire residents yesterday to deliver him a second win.

"Last night the American people began down the road to change, and four days from now, New Hampshire, you have the chance to change America," he told several hundred voters in a hangar at the Pease International Tradeport in Porstmouth. He reiterated that message midday to a similarly large crowd at Concord High School.

Obama emphasized a message of unity among Democrats, Republicans and independents....If Obama wins the Democratic primary Tuesday, he pledged to unify the party, then "go out to gather independents and Republicans and form a working majority" to win the general election.

"We'll build a coalition that stretches between red states and blue states, that's how we'll win in November," he said.

On Sunday, January 6, a story headlined “Going Negative; Audacity of attacks” singled out Hillary Clinton among Democrats for her campaign’s attacks on Obama:

Sen. Barack Obama faced a barrage of criticism on the campaign trail and in mailboxes yesterday, with his rivals criticizing his support of nuclear power and accusing him of taking an ambiguous position on abortion rights. Members of one advocacy group supporting Sen. Hillary Clinton called on its leader to stop a negative ad campaign against Obama....

Here is a rundown of the day's negative campaigning:

• A Clinton campaign flyer criticizing Obama's stance on abortion rights landed in New Hampshire mailboxes yesterday, accusing the Illinois senator of being "unwilling to take a stand on choice."...Obama campaign spokesman Reid Cherlin said the claim was false and already backfired once when Clinton tried to make it in Iowa. The campaign also provided a prepared statement from Lorna Barrett, the president of the Chicago chapter of the National Organization for Women. Brett called the mailer a "red herring."

"Barack Obama is and always has been there for the choice community. I know — I was there with him in the trenches," she said. "This is offensive. I am pro-choice, pro-truth, pro-Hillary - in that order. And questioning the latter. I am very disgusted by this tactic being used by the Clinton campaign."...

This morning, the Monitor’s editorial page ran a pro-Obama piece plucked from the pages of Friday’s Washington Post. The column, written by the liberal editor of The Washington Monthly Charlie Peters, lauds Obama’s work in the Illinois state legislature on a bill designed to protect accused criminals from police beatings by mandating videotaping of interrogations. The Monitor’s headline: “Obama won over legislators to bring change to Illinois.”

People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the news media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.

Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there - and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.

Consider a bill into which Obama clearly put his heart and soul. The problem he wanted to address was that too many confessions, rather than being voluntary, were coerced - by beating the daylights out of the accused....


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The more I think about it

The more I think about it the more Obama might be the ideal canditate for the GOP to beat.  I know my dad and his wife would vote against him, and my dad was set to vote for Hildabeast.

I think a savy GOP nomination could send Obama down to Davey Jones locker.  He has no foriegn policy and what he does have is flawed.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Inside Dems

Inside the Democrat Party many do not trust Obama and are suspicious of what he might do once in office.

However he is very bright and articulate. It is all about perception during a campaign. He seems to have the ability to have people ignore his reality.

In my view McCain may be the one GOP that can definately beat him with his style and history.

What is it about Obama, that

What is it about Obama, that your dad and his wife find problematic about him?  What is it that drew them to Hillary?  Where's the fault line in the Dem Party here, Dan?

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.

The MSM have switched waggons

They've decided that Hillary is too flawed and has too much baggage to be their favorite. Obama is the new golden child. It used to be that the Democrats had to "run to the left" to get the fringe elements of their party to be energized and the Republicans had to "run to the right" for the same reason. Now it seems that the Dems are still runnng to the left, but the Repubs are not running as far to the right as they usually do and therefore a large % of conservatives are undecided.

I think that this election is going to come down to the ideology that the candidates espouce and which basic paradigm the American electorate agrees with the most:

Democrats = government has all the answers and will decide how much of your money you get to keep after they pay for all their programs

Republicans = individuals have liberty to choose what is best for them and government is limited to doing ONLY what the Constitution allows for it to do.

Unfortunately, I think that McCain has moved more and more toward being a RINO and some of his ideas are closer to Democrat then Republican.

In order to defeat a very liberal democratic candidate in the general election, IMO, will require a solidly conservative candidate who can articulate and prove that have lived by truely conservative values and not just adopted them for convenience sake.

Romney won't be able to do it. Gulianni is questionable. Huckabee is a possibility, Paul would be possible, but his ideas on 9/11 and islamic terrorism are too conspiratorial, Thompson is definitely possible but Keyes is the one candidate who can tell people exactly what he believes in, why and that it hasn't changed.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Romney, Rudy and Fred can all beat Obama

Obama is too young, naive and inexperienced to get anyone but the youth and naive vote (far left of the democratic party). The John Edwards supporters will not be so quick to jump onboard and Obama running as Barrack Hussein Obama is going to be racially and religious devisive. He has a muslim father and grandfather and will be seen as likely to be sympathetic to terrorists.

A Huckabee nomination will cause fiscal and security conservatives to either not vote, vote third party or vote for the Democrats. Huckabee has no chance of winning.

Obama is to Democrats what the Huckster is to Republicans.

Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
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Barrack Hussein Obama's Empty Rhetoric

With Hillary being labeled as the establishment and Michael Moore drilling this home in his movie Sicko, it is only typical for liberal papers to jump on the next best thing, Obama's empty Rhetoric:

Barrack Hussein Obama will bring you change, hope, love, world peace and... more change, Obama is going to bring the CHANGE! Then the HOPE! And finally the LOVE! When he is done he is going to bring more of the change, followed by more change and more change. It is like the ultimate change candidate. His message is so clear, Obama is bringing the change! I am so happy to know what he is going to do in office. All of which will save us, cure aids, cancer and global warming.

But hey Obama likes the Huckster! So it cannot be all bad:

Obama: Mike Huckabee is My Favorite GOP Candidate (Newsmax)

Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
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Go Obama

I for one could not be happier that Obama has momentum right now and can take the nomination away from HRC. He matches up very well against most GOP candidates and I believe the only GOP nominee that can beat him is Mcclain or Huckabee.

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Go Obama

and take McCain with ya!!

GoHunter08

botg

McCain might be the only one that beat Obama in a head to head

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shawn

i think there is a lot of time to expose Obamas lack of experience.  He is the Mille Vanillie of the race and as such once some real attention is paid to him there are a lot of others who can beat him.

GoHunter08

}}---> Milli Vanilli

Milli Vanilli 

Great assessment.  Didn't take you a big dissertation with 500 repasted links to make your point, 

I ♣ My Seal

Milli Vanilli sounded great

Milli Vanilli sounded great on my 2 12 inch subwoofers in high school. Obama is very real and he uses his real voice in speeches

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}}---> Obama Bananarama?

Yeah, what were those songs Phoney Baloney (aka Milli Vanilli) sang? 

  1. Girl you know it's NOT true.
  2. I'm a DUB girl.

And remember when they tried to comeback with their own (very bad) voices?  What a stink.

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I sure do CA. Used lots of

I sure do CA. Used lots of hair spray back then. I think one of the members of Milli Vanilli killed himself.

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}}---> You're right Shawn

It's a tragedy for me to see his brain is over (there and there and there) 

I ♣ My Seal

You have one sick sense of

You have one sick sense of humor. lol :-)

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chasimatic

yes indeed, looks good, but does he have understanding, knowledge base, wisdom?  Will he be able to defend some of his foreign policy gaffes?  What has he done? (other than be the most absent junior senator of all time)

GoHunter08

}}---> When he's not absent

When Obambi is not absent, he's voting "Present",

Now that's the kind of leadership we need. 

I ♣ My Seal

botg

Your right, he has limited experience and I will have an open mind to support him or not. If he gets the nomination, Democrats will be united behind him no matter what. If he can secure the independent votes he will have the keys to the White House.

Bush is not running in this election, I understand that, but many voters associate him with the GOP, just like many on this site bring up things Bill Clinton did yrs ago.

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it's a long campaign shawn

McAmnesty can't get his base.  Obama is very susceptable to his own inexperience and track record (and lack there of)

GoHunter08

}}---> Obambi's on a roll

Shamus McAnus was on the wrong side too many times. 

Obambi's on a roll and could excite the young crowd immensely.

When that happens, they're gonna want the older set to start paying up on the spending spree we've been on before we die. 

I ♣ My Seal

Obama's lack of experience

Obama's lack of experience is irrelevant.

He's a rock star. 

In our celebrity driven society, that could be all it takes.  He could literally be the first candidate to bring out the previously non-existant rock the vote crowd.

My roommate has never voted in his life, but he's got the Obama fever and will vote this year.  Doesn't know his plateform, doesn't care about his platform, simply likes Obama.

I wouldn't be surprised if many people in the younger generation feel this way. 

PS  Sure it's cliche, but what was Lincoln's record prior to entering office?  Just checking.  He turned out to be a pretty solid president if my memory serves me right.  As far as I'm concerned, the more experience you've had in politics, the more you've been lobbyed, the more hands you've greased, the more pork you've put in, the more shady things you've been involved in, etc. etc. etc. 

Agreed, it is a long

Agreed, it is a long campaign. Anything can happen. From what I have seen Obama has been improving his debating skills.

I just hope Romney does not get the Republican nod.

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}}---> I think he will Shawn

Bishop Romney has the best chance right now.  I think Rudy has lost his opportun ity to shine by sitting out.

Maybe Fred can still step up.  He's starting to talk, anyway. 

I ♣ My Seal

"I think he will

"I think he will Shawn"

brrrr, CA, don' do that. I just got a huge chill. Felt a little like a ice water enema

I can't think of a more slimy politician including both Clintons.

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}}---> Too bad Shawn

I think Bishop Romney cinched it when he told us the poignant story of how he pulled his car over to the side of the road and cried.

Really showed his human side.

Hillary liked the crying stunt so well she tried it herself. 

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I know you will say I sound

I know you will say I sound like a broken record CA, but I believe Romney is the kind of Republican that I fear most. I believe he will try to increase obsenity laws, not support State Rights and go after medicinal marijuana dispensorys and will have an assault on free speech.

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}}---> NOTA Shawn

I think all that's small potatoes to Bishop Romney.  I could vote for him if I had to.  He's not my first choice because of his record on race, but I'm hoping he's put that behind him. 

I ♣ My Seal

Shawn

if a POTUS appoints constructionists to the SCOTUS that is the most he can do to protect States Rights and Free Speech.  Think about it these are Constitutional issues.  Who would be more likely to appoint constructionists, Obama or Romney?

 

GoHunter08

botg

I'm not sure I like someone as liberal a John Paul Stevens, although I prefer someone like Sandra Day O'connor over Alito and Roberts.

 

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goodnight shawn

and Ruth Bader clones will abolish States Rights and a lot of Free Speech.  Being from Canada you should have experience with hate speech laws.  And once such things start they get more encompassing and convoluted

GoHunter08

good night botg

Not being sarcastic, I really want to know. How would Ruth Bader silence free speech or abolish state laws. Have a good sleep and answer me tomorrow:-

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Returning to your true roots, shawn?

While Thompson is far and away my first choice, the more I see of Romney, the more I like him.  

He has the experience to run the country, and his stated positions are the most conservative (except for Thompson).   I also think he's the most likely to be able to beat any of the Democrat front-runners. 

He's not perfect, but the problem is, except for Thompson, the other choices are worse.   

 

 

Hi RJ, I'm sorry, what do

Hi RJ,

I'm sorry, what do mean my returning to my true roots? I have to go with the wife to Costco, so I will catch up with you later.

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For several months, shawn, I've observed you

claiming to other posters you were moving to the right.  But your posts about the boogie man Romney and what you fear he'll do to your liberties reveal your true liberal roots.

What do you base your fears of Romney on?

You do know Romney is

You do know Romney is responsible for universal healthcare with punitive tax-penalties for non-enrollment here in Mass, right? That plus gay marriage, it's a liberal haven up in here. Thanks Mitt!

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

LOL, Jason! Romney is responsible for gay marriage?

In one of the bluest of states, Romney is responsible for all that?  I look forward to your explanation of why that's so.

Here in CT we have a Republican govenor, too, but the Democrat legislators are so strong, getting conservative issues passed is almost impossible.  All she can do is act as something of a brake to slow them down.

More likely, you're trying to dump on Romney because he's the Republican candidate you libs most fear.

RJ, It's extremely fun to

RJ,

It's extremely fun to watch all you conservatives turn on each other as you stake out primary-candidate territory.

No, I'm not dumping on Romney "because he's the candidate I most fear" (melodramatic much?). I'm not dumping on him at all in fact. I think the Mass health plan is awful; utopian and eerily fascistic under a thin veneer of altruism, but he probably had good intentions.

Wait, you mean Romney wasn't the one who advocated gay marriage? I am shocked. Seriously though, let's review the grammatical structure of my post so as to demonstrate the utter wrongness of your assumption:

First Sentence: Establishes that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has recently established a universal healthcare program with free coverage to low income persons and tax penalties for those who do not participate, and that Gov. Mitt Romney was instrumental in the passages of said program.

Second Sentence: "That plus gay marriage, it's a liberal haven up in here!" Leaving aside the colloquial nature of the independent clause (owing somewhat to an ebonically-rooted 'hip-hop' rejoinder), and the fact that a semicolon would have surely been a more appropriate conjunction, this sentence merely renders the fact, albeit not 100% sincerely, that when one takes into consideration Romney's health care plan in addition to the state's laudable status as the only one in the union to allow gay marriage, Massachusetts is arguably the most liberal in the union. The word plus is especially crucial here as it separates the particulars of health reform from those of gay marriage.

Third Sentence: In a tone teetering somewhere between "midly ironic" and "caustically sarcastic", I reiterate Romney's contribution to the "Liberal Haven", though this sentence is non-specific as to whether its attribution of praise toward Romney is for one issue or the other.

Hope this helps clear that up! 

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

Jason, Great post.  Tough

Jason,

Great post.  Tough week at the office for RJ.  Getting hammered on all fronts.

It's hilarious to me to watch these guys rah rah Romney.  He's nothing but a PR stunt.  He's a liberal.  If you want to vote for a liberal, go right ahead. 

The NBs are constantly harping about Obama's record?  At least he's been on the same side of the aisle the whole time. 

Furthermore, I doubt we'll be seeing magic underwear in the white house anytime soon. 

LOL, Jason! I don't think someone who uses clunky phrases

like "extremely fun" in a sentence should get tangled up trying to "explain" the proprieties of grammar to others.

Come on, 'fess up.  That lengthy, tortured "explanation" of what your post really meant was a parody, right?    Intended humor or not, it deserves, along with the post it "explains", to be in the NB Hall of Fame.    In fact, it could be an entire episode of NewsBusted.    :^)

Yes, in fact it was

Yes, in fact it was something of a parody. Note how I poke fun at my own grammar/usage choices throughout. Glad you caught that, I was hoping it was self-evident.

But for the record, I was not under the impression that M.R. had advocated gay marriage and my grammatical breakdown does in fact demonstrate that. Since you tend to misread my posts even after I break them down semantically, logically, and rhetorically, I thought I'd try grammar.

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

LOL, Jason. First you "agree" that your ridiculous post

was a parody, and then you (I'm laughing so hard I can barely type) go on to defend it!

lololol!

Tripled up the 'lol' there,

Tripled up the 'lol' there, did we? Are you sure you're even old enough to vote for Romney?

I'd launch into a similarly belletristic and high-falutin' explanation of what exactly parody is, but I'm sure you'd have difficulty with it. I'm defending my parody post in that it did, technically, accurately describe how I was not associating Romney with gay marriage. I'm also saying it was deprecating and over-the-top and deliberately curmudgeonly (ie 'parodic'). The reason for this is that there's no logical way that someone should read the original post and extrapolate "JasonC believes Mitt Romney advocated gay marriage" unless they had a vested interest in expressing that. I went with an overwrought grammar lesson in order to highlight the absurdity of such semantic wrangling. Why is this so difficult for you?

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

That's just the way RJ

That's just the way RJ rolls.

Ha Bal, Can't knock the

Ha Bal,

Can't knock the hustle!

I like the position this

I like the position this whole exchange forces me into. not only do I have to hold RJ's hand in order for him to understand why I wasn't conflating gay marriage with universal coverage, but that explanation is basically then turned into "Oh, look at the liberal trying to overexplain". Guess what RJ, I wouldn't have had to if you'd just read carefully the first time.

 

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

LOL! Where's Syrius?

He's the only missing member of this Pile-On conducted by the NB House Trolls.    :^)

Jason, It was classic

Jason,

It was classic RJ.  She's clearly on the outs.  Her persistent posting has finally led to what we all predicted.  People now realize she has no idea what she's talking about, when faced with a rational, indisputable post, she attempts to get into semantics, every SINGLE time.  Frankly, it's childish and BORING. 

My favorite RJ maneuvar is to make a general statement with zero evidence and then challenge you to invalidate it.  That is my favorite debate tactic of all time.  "The sky is Green!  Prove that I'm wrong or I'm right" haha.

Say what you will about RJ, but her stubbornness is truly unparalleled.  You have to admire such a strict adherence to the Deny Til Death style of living.

PS Jason I'm still laughing at your original explanation post.  So funny.  RJ's reply couldn't have been more perfect!

LOL! Oh my gosh, Jason, you're splitting my sides.

Don't be so self-effacing. You should revel in your talent for making others laugh out loud. In fact the humor coming from your ponderous syntax is "extremely fun"...particularly when combined with the self-criticism in your tagline. :^)

They're coming to take me

They're coming to take me away, HA HA

They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA


 

First, what is your

First, what is your obsession with "extremely fun"? Fun can be used as a noun or adjective, thus one can find something to be "extremely fun" (intensifying adjective-adjective) just as a person can find someone else to be "extremely annoying (Ibid). I'll admit it's not exactly elevated diction, but it's not improper either.

Actually, my tagline is in reference to a specific character in Wuthering Heights. I use it here because it so eloquently describes the behavior of religious hypocrites. So....what's your point?

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

Touch a nerve?

Who said "extremely fun" is improper, Jason?  I said it's clunky....and it is.  It's also humorously representative of your overall writing style.    

Regarding your tagline, it's not surprising that you're unable to see that it also works well as an amusing self-reference.   Don't think too hard about it, though, because I don't want you to remove it.  I like it just where it is.

Re: Paragraph 1: You're

Re: Paragraph 1: You're right it is clunky. I thought you were implying it was grammatically incorrect.

Re: Paragraph 2: Why must you torture me so with your cryptic mind games?!?!?

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

Whew! That's a lot of angst

over your misconstruing what I said.     ;^)

RJ, It's been wonderful

RJ,

It's been wonderful to watch you flounder pathetically over this past week.  You're lack of knowledge and pervasive use of wide sweeping generalizations have finally caught up with you.  It looks as if your time as the resident NB bully has come to an end.  We will all shed a single tear for you. 

Hey at least you'll have time now to catch up on your 'stories' instead of wasting every hour of every day on the NB.

Jason put you in your place and this is your response?   Perfectly RJ. 

PS do you have any links to all this recent research you've been reading about the effects of being a prisoner of war on a person later in life - you kept referencing them, but didn't ever mention a single one specifically - we all know it was your pathetic attempt to defend your slandering of McCain, but I'd like to see if you could scrounge something up to back up your original lie.  Recent research!  Haha

Jason

"
No, I'm not dumping on Romney "because he's the candidate I most fear" (melodramatic much?)"

Melrose Place was one of my favorite shows ;-)

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Oh that Michael, I hate him,

Oh that Michael, I hate him, he's just so smug!

Yeah??? ...well....umm. The

Yeah??? ...well....umm. The Jerk store called and .....

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I'm going with JERK STORE!!

I'm going with JERK STORE!! Jerk Store is the line!!! JERK STORE!!!!

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

It's a smart line! And I'm

It's a smart line! And I'm not dumbing it down for anyone!

The problem is.....there

The problem is.....there aren't any jerk stores....

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

[left turn] What if the

[left turn]

What if the pig says, "My wife's a slut"?

Yes, it's a fascinating

Yes, it's a fascinating commentary on contemporary social mores, don't you think?

[I know this isn't quite right, but I don't have this ep. on DVD) 

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

 "You're a calculating,

 "You're a calculating, cold-hearted business woman. And when there's dirty work to be done, you don't mind stomping on a few throats."

Did you ever notice that people in the South didn't watch Seinfeld?

At my first job out of school I worked with a bunch of semi-literates from University of Georgia (apparently all they learned was how to obsess over a football team and fat little dog).

If you dropped a seinfeld line in front of them, even if it was no soup for you, all you got in return was blank stares.  It was so bizarre considering every person I know in the North can recite Seinfeld inside and out.

When I asked the one kid what the deal was, he said he never got into Seinfeld b/c it was too Jewish.  Ha.

PS This little subthread might necessitate and entire forum.  Nota Bene.

RJ

The only topic that I have shifted to right on is abortion. I also do not have as bad a case of BDS as I once had.

I vote for who I think is best, not the party. I feel Obama or Hillary would beat Romney in a head to head election, but botg is right and the election is a long ways away.

I feel Romney is flip flopper on gays being welcome in the military and abortion. Did he see his Dad march with MLK or just hear about it? Did it happen at all?

He lied about hunting his whole life when he does not even have a hunting licence and only when pheasant hunting twice. I said this to well 99 the other day. I know it is probably a non issue for you, a just a tiny blip on the radar, but Romney says he is going to investigate violence in video games, that to me is just the start of of his war on free speech.

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Non-responsive, shawn

I asked what you based this on:

"Romney is the kind of Republican that I fear most. I believe he will try to increase obsenity laws, not support State Rights and go after medicinal marijuana dispensorys and will have an assault on free speech."

You gave me a litany of immaterial talking points.

RJ

I did respond RJ, you decided to pick and choose what to cut and paste out of my post. I believe he is a liar and flipflopper on many issues, which I have backed up. I admit what you highlighted was talking points because he is not the POTUS yet.

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haha, shawn. Pick and choose?

Oh, yeah.  I forgot to include this:

"I know you will say I sound like a broken record CA,:

Sorry about that, shawn.   ;^)

Sigh, RJ, now your cutting

Sigh, RJ, now your cutting and pasting from what I posted to cool arrow. I answered your questions in my reply to you. What you cut and pasted from CA, is because we tend to go back and forth on free speech.

Romney lost both NH and Iowa. Yes he won Wyoming. I for one am hoping that is enough to keep him down.

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Are you serious, Shawn?

My post was specific and clear.   It said:

I asked what you based this on:

"Romney is the kind of Republican that I fear most.  I believe he will try to increase obsenity laws, not support State rights, go after medical marijuana dispensorys, and will have an assult on free speech."

Instead of answering, you gave a litany of immaterial talking points and followed up with an accusation of selective c&p.

So, after all your twisting and turning we're back to the same unanswered question: What do you base the above on?

"I feel Romney is flip

"I feel Romney is flip flopper on gays being welcome in the military and
abortion. Did he see his Dad march with MLK or just hear about it? Did
it happen at all?

He lied about hunting his whole life when he does not even have a
hunting licence and only when pheasant hunting twice. I said this to
well 99 the other day. I know it is probably a non issue for you, a
just a tiny blip on the radar, but Romney says he is going to
investigate violence in video games, that to me is just the start of of
his war on free speech."

That is what I said, RJ. I fear him as a flip flopper and liar that will change positions for his advantage. I admitted that the other part you cut and pasted is hearsay, because fortunately he is not the POTUS yet. I answered you question.

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"hearsay" Shawn? Now, that's interesting.

Where have you been channeling this "hearsay" that Romney will try take away all those "rights?"     DemUnderground?   MoveOn?  KosKids?  HuffnPuff?

The point is, shawn, first you bleated out all those far left "scare/fear" talking points and then flipped around and pretended to not like Romney because he's a "flip-flopper and a liar."    

In reality, you join the ranks of the other disingenuous liberals who are attempting to take Romney out with fake allusions.  

But the more you libs attack him with these tactics, the more seriously I (and probably many others) take him.   ;^>

You know RJ, I consider you

You know RJ, I consider you a very intelligent person, I just wish that you would not always accuse people on not answering your questions or always ask somebody to prove something to you it wastes time.

After I proved to you in the last post, that I answered your question, now you are accussing me of getting talking points from Moveo and DU etc.

I really do not see why you are also accusing me of joining the ranks of disengenuous liberals when Romney is the main person I do not like in the election. I have not critisized Huckabee, McCain, Guiliani, or Thompson. I also do not pretend to not like him because he is a liar and flip flopper it truly is the reason.

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What you really don't like, shawn