What If They Held an Election Without the Media?

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By Rich Noyes | January 4, 2008 - 16:03 ET

In science, it’s called the “observer effect” — the very act of observing a phenomenon changes the phenomenon. And if journalists are simply supposed to “observe” and report on our presidential elections, they are in fact exerting a tremendous effect over the entire process.

For example, imagine two small states, both holding caucuses to pick their delegates to the presidential nominating convention this summer. Because they are so small, neither state delegation will be especially meaningful to the actual outcome, but the caucuses in State A are given saturation attention by the world’s media, while the caucuses in State B are ignored by the media.

Well, no need to imagine. Yesterday, the Iowa caucuses chose a relatively inconsequential 40 delegates to the GOP convention, but the tremendous media attention given to those results has already scrambled the Republican presidential race. Tomorrow, Wyoming Republicans will pick 12 delegates — but the media won’t be there. So it’s essentially a non-event.

Indeed, today’s Wyoming Tribune-Eagle notes how state Republicans “want the event to end by 3 p.m. so the state can get a mention in the Sunday New York Times.”

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“A mention” in the New York Times? Is that their dream of a successful media splash?

[Update, January 7: Wyoming Republicans got their mention in the New York Times.]

The national media aren’t interested in Wyoming because the candidates are spending so little time there. The candidates aren’t going to Wyoming because there’s no big media presence there. It’s a chicken-and-egg conundrum that shows how the Big Media have taken center stage in our political process.

Today’s (Friday’s) Wyoming Tribune-Eagle editorialized about the futility of their state’s effort to gain a little more clout by moving their caucuses to early January:

On Saturday, a few Republicans from across Wyoming will converge at local county caucuses to pick delegates to the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., in September.

Party leaders in the state believed by moving their caucuses to early January that the rest of the nation would pay attention to what happens in this early caucusing.

Not a chance. Nestling itself between the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary has made Wyoming nearly invisible. Besides, it only offers three electoral votes and a similarly small delegation to the national convention. In other words, who cares?

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Because Wyoming Republicans so badly wanted to stand out, they will lose half their delegates to the national convention along with New Hampshire, Florida, Michigan and South Carolina.

Yet even now Wyoming Republicans are hoping to gain some clout out of their decision to hold caucuses on Saturday. Indeed, they want the event to end by 3 p.m. so the state can get a mention in the Sunday New York Times. Since when does this state care what the New York Times has to say? This is just further proof of how badly this state wants to be noticed.

And with a majority of the media ignoring Wyoming, it seems the state's Republicans have made a mistake or at least have wasted everyone's time and effort.

While they still might think it's worth it on Saturday, come September this state's Republicans probably will wish they had all of their delegates in the national spotlight in St. Paul.

In the end, to quote Shakespeare, Saturday's Wyoming caucuses are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

By the way, there haven't been any polls conducted in Wyoming, but Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul have all campaigned in Wyoming. Someone will win tomorrow -- the big question is will anybody ever report it?

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"What If They Held an

"What If They Held an Election Without the Media?"

By that, do you mean we would have to go by what the candidates say and our own instincts? That we wouldn't have the media to helpfully explain to us what the candidates' positions mean and which one cares more about the people? I'd be lost. Lost, I tell you!

This poses a philosophical

This poses a philosophical question: If a state caucus is held and the media chooses not to report on it, does it make a sound?

I'm thinking there are no

I'm thinking there are no "compelling" democrat stories in Wyoming. Naw...that couldn't bet it, could it?

Observer effect?

Isn't that the Heisenberg Uncertainly principle?

No.

It's the Hawthorne Effect. Heisenberg is in quantum mechanics.

What If They Held an Election Without the Media?

OK!

Count me in!

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

What If They Held an Election Without the Media?

Were that it were true!

 

And how about holding a war without the media, eh? 

I'd put up with the media crap-stains all over the election if they'd get the hell out of the war ...

Qualifier

What if they held an election without the liberal-biased and power-hungry media?

What objective media?

When news stories highlight Republican=bad, Democrat=Good, how can the average citizen expect to get objective, fair, unbiased news and information about candidates (or issues) the news source (or AP) doesn't support or like?

I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. - J.B. Books (John Wayne)

I think given Obama's win

I think given Obama's win in Iowa, especially Iowa, given his religious and ethnic background, is good for the nation, but having said that, the story out of Iowa to me is actually the press coverage of Obama through much of 2007....

....it was incredible.........maybe the man is terribly charismatic, but even if so, journalists are supposed to be swayed by that?

There is absolutely nothing in the man's background that I saw in the coverage that justified the MASSIVE amount of MASSIVELY positive press he got in 2007.

I guess I could cut this short by saying.....why they hell is the media praising someone r-e-p-e-a-t-e-d-l-y for being a "rock star" candidate in the first place?

How did he become a rock star?

Did he cut a few gold records in his very short political career?

Are his policy ideas so golden, the analytical media was won over to him as a political guiness and thus can be excused for losing all sense of neutrality?

Or was he such a rock star because the "hardnosed" reporters decided they liked him and would make him out to be such?

Media has distorted politics

The media, on both sides of the political spectrum, have so distorted the political process it may well be unfixable. The obsession with the horse race instead of the horse is the main reason. The obsession with polls and who has the most fund raising only further distort an already muddy process. Tell me the last time you heard a story on the position the candidates have rather than thier position in the polls. Each time a poll based story runs it fiurther distorts the process by giving the front runner more credence, the band wagon effect, and makes it more difficult for anyone to get thier message out.

 Fortunately in Iowa the polls were wrong. I believe it is because Iowans have been so over polled they lie to pollsters for fun. I might be wrong, but when I get disgusted with pollsters I give non-sensical answers to just get rid of them.

 We need to focus on the candidates, and thier positions on the topics of the day. We ought not to focus on thier positions in the polls. I remeber when papers would actually help you with this by publishing a side by side of candidates and thier positions. Now the only positions you hear about are thier positions in the polls.

Agreed!! Seems that the

Agreed!! Seems that the race itself is the focus. From one election to the next, they're all treated as the reason to have candidates, instead of candidates being the reason for an election.

WOW! I pay attention (or I

WOW! I pay attention (or I thought I did) and did NOT know Wyoming was next in line. It's all about New Hampshire. What a bunch of crapheads the media is. I wonder what's the bigger reason.....1) because Wyoming is "small" or 2) Wyoming doesn't have Democrats there to drool over.

Theoretically, the news

Theoretically, the news media are supposed to report the news and not make the news. With that in mind, I would not mind a law wherein the news media may not report a da** thing about the elections until the polls close in Guam. That way, the media cannot influence elections by prematurely calling a state for a particular candidate before the polls close (Florida 2000 anyone?) No election night coverage, no entrance polls, no exit polls, nothing, until the polls close in Guam and the votes are counted. Then, they could report how each individual state went, but not before.

It probably wouldn't pass Constitutional muster, though. Too bad.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

I agree

I wish an election rule could be established either limiting or eliminating the never ending coverage of polls and who has the most money etc. We have been so ill served by the media in this regard. I also agree it would probably not pass a constitutional muster. It used to be the press reported. Now pundits are entranced by the process so much they forget to serve the public trust. It is only organizations like NewsBusters and MRC and other watchdog groups who seem to be looking out for the regular guy.

I might have to wonder...

I might have to wonder about the constitution issue. I do not think there is anything that says when the press is notified of the results. A delay of six to eight hours or so should not be an issue that the Constitution would or would not address, but it certainly could be argued that it would do more for the "right to vote" issues.

Since Guam is "Where

Since Guam is "Where America's day begins" is not the right location to use--their closing on Hawaii would be much better way to go. 

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

This just In Ron Paul has won Wyoming

Just think how the clowns in the MSM will report that Ron Paul has won Wyoming by over 80% with Duncan Hunter in second. This might be the only way it is reported until September

Romney is the early leader

Duncan in second

This is sad "By violating

This is sad "By violating the dates allowed by the national party, Wyoming Republicans forfeited half of the state’s normal 28 delegates." to think some states can vote before others.  Perhaps we should rethink the rules and make all primary/caucuses the same day.  Im kinda behind Sarc on the fact 2 powerful machines control who gets to be President, but realize the chaos that would ensue if there were too many options.  In theory the options are infinite or at least limited to teh number taht have the resources to run for President.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Wyoming History

Wyoming has never had a voice in Presidential politics due to our primaries being scheduled in August, making it a moot point by that time.

Whether the media recognizes it or not, Saturday was history in the making for our state. Our state held county conventions on Saturday, not caucuses.

I, personally prefer Duncan Hunter, but Romney beats the heck out Ron Paul, who campaigned hard in here. I have never met a more obnoxious group of people than Ron Paulites. Extremely annoying. They converged on our convention, causing it to last 4 hours longer than necessary. Of course, they left early, after Paul was determined a loser. I guess they think being obnoxious and rude is the way to start a revolution. Freaks, all of them.